Plonko Posted 18 January, 2013 Posted 18 January, 2013 That's how I'm trying to see the management change, so here's a new thread as an antidote to all the Daily Mail style wrist slitters on here today. Anyone else see it the same way?
niceandfriendly Posted 18 January, 2013 Posted 18 January, 2013 Absolutely. Gutted for Adkins but now is the time to get behind the new guy. By all accounts this guy is the mutts nuts, could be the start of something great.
S-Clarke Posted 18 January, 2013 Posted 18 January, 2013 I think it's the wrong time to even be thinking about ''new starts'' - but, here we are. Who knows at the moment, we all know very little of the guy. He will need to hit the ground running. One things for sure, if we're relegated now then there will be hell to pay. He sounds promising though from what I've read, and people close to him in Spain can only speak highly of him which is a positive. Will be interesting to see what other additions we make this window as well, as this will define how good our 2nd half is.
kpturner Posted 18 January, 2013 Posted 18 January, 2013 I'd have preferred an exciting new start after we had 40 points on the board. I quite like the sound of the guy and his reputation, but the timing is bloody awful (putting aside the shabby treatment of Adkins for a moment).
The9 Posted 18 January, 2013 Posted 18 January, 2013 That's how I'm trying to see the management change, so here's a new thread as an antidote to all the Daily Mail style wrist slitters on here today. Anyone else see it the same way? No, but good luck with that. I have nothing against Pochettino.
hypochondriac Posted 18 January, 2013 Posted 18 January, 2013 Absolutely. Gutted for Adkins but now is the time to get behind the new guy. By all accounts this guy is the mutts nuts, could be the start of something great. Eh?
SaintlyAnd Posted 18 January, 2013 Posted 18 January, 2013 I think in any other circumstance I'd be really excited by Pochettino coming in. But feel so deflated right now. Maybe in a few days/weeks will be feeling far more positive, hope so.
Glasgow_Saint Posted 18 January, 2013 Posted 18 January, 2013 Absolutely. Gutted for Adkins but now is the time to get behind the new guy. By all accounts this guy is the mutts nuts, could be the start of something great. The only positive voice seems to be his pal from SSN!? His win ratio as a manager is avearge/poor
niceandfriendly Posted 18 January, 2013 Posted 18 January, 2013 Very highly regarded internationally. Forget for a moment how ****ed off you are at Cortese (which is understandable) and realise that we may have actually hired a good manager.
Glasgow_Saint Posted 18 January, 2013 Posted 18 January, 2013 I think in any other circumstance I'd be really excited by Pochettino coming in. But feel so deflated right now. Maybe in a few days/weeks will be feeling far more positive, hope so. Win Monday and beat Man U/City and i will respect him
niceandfriendly Posted 18 January, 2013 Posted 18 January, 2013 The only positive voice seems to be his pal from SSN!? His win ratio as a manager is avearge/poor Well, if you have only seen that interview and read or heard nothing else about him, then I can see why you came to that conclusion.
Frank's cousin Posted 18 January, 2013 Posted 18 January, 2013 Time will tell whether its seen as a bold brave move that led to success or an utter failure/mistake by the man in charge. Guted for Nige as well, but we have two choices - hand wringing protesting misery that helps no one, or get behind the new man and give him the chance to see what he can do.
Plonko Posted 18 January, 2013 Author Posted 18 January, 2013 The only positive voice seems to be his pal from SSN!? His win ratio as a manager is avearge/poor Yeah but he was managing a club in a financial crisis who were selling all their players.
LGTL Posted 18 January, 2013 Posted 18 January, 2013 I'm not excited, and we didn't need a new start in the first place. Great.
derry Posted 18 January, 2013 Posted 18 January, 2013 Lose the next five games and we'll see how welcome the change is. I'm keeping my powder dry and hoping he won't mess up. The odds are on it. Everton isn't the time for protest but a rapid deterioration of the present form won't need much to ignite a storm.
Glasgow_Saint Posted 18 January, 2013 Posted 18 January, 2013 Well, if you have only seen that interview and read or heard nothing else about him, then I can see why you came to that conclusion. 1 win in 3 average at Espanyol, not sure why everyone thinks he's the new 'Special one' is it because people says he's "forward thinking" If he was so well respected in Spain why did no other Spanish club offer him a job?
buctootim Posted 18 January, 2013 Posted 18 January, 2013 (edited) Yeah but he was managing a club in a financial crisis who were selling all their players. and his successor has achieved a lot more with the same resources. Maybe we should have hired the guy who Espanyol sacked "no Inglese" for. Edited 18 January, 2013 by buctootim
Glasgow_Saint Posted 18 January, 2013 Posted 18 January, 2013 Yeah but he was managing a club in a financial crisis who were selling all their players. Excuses, excuses.......
Saint Billy Posted 18 January, 2013 Posted 18 January, 2013 Absolutely. Gutted for Adkins but now is the time to get behind the new guy. By all accounts this guy is the mutts nuts, could be the start of something great. Agree with this, I'm gutted to see NA go but no good wollowing, lets hope NC has got this right and the new guy can move us on a notch or two. Good luck Nigel, I am sure you will be snapped up quickly.
Ohio Saint Posted 18 January, 2013 Posted 18 January, 2013 I understand the sentiment. Yes, it's an exciting new start in the same way that having your throat ripped out, then being rescued by a doctor that only speaks Martian is exciting. I'm not complaining about my new start, I just have no idea who this doctor is, what he is saying, or why someone ripped out my throat while I was really quite enjoying breathing a sigh of relief after the start of the season. I have no say in all this, I will just hope I enjoy the ride.
aintforever Posted 18 January, 2013 Posted 18 January, 2013 Very highly regarded internationally. I'm sorry but what the **** does that mean? His record is average at best and even foreign coaches with exceptional records have failed in the Prem.
trousers Posted 18 January, 2013 Posted 18 January, 2013 That's how I'm trying to see the management change, so here's a new thread as an antidote to all the Daily Mail style wrist slitters on here today. Anyone else see it the same way? Yep....I'm grateful for everything Adkins has done but I'm equally excited and intrigued by what might happen next. Interesting times ahead one way or the other
PercyR Posted 18 January, 2013 Posted 18 January, 2013 Maybe I'm being short-sighted but I just can't see what credentials this guy brings to the table that is above Adkins own. If we win every game until the end of the season then I might start to believe the hype....
Glasgow_Saint Posted 18 January, 2013 Posted 18 January, 2013 Maybe I'm being short-sighted but I just can't see what credentials this guy brings to the table that is above Adkins own. If we win every game until the end of the season then I might start to believe the hype.... Classic happy clappy reaction to Spanish SSN reporter saying the dude is "good"
CB Fry Posted 18 January, 2013 Posted 18 January, 2013 Pretty sure everyone talking about how jolly exciting this new start is, and slagging off everyone else as "Daily Mail wristslitters" would have been going apesh it if someone had started a "Adkins must go" thread 24 hours ago.
PercyR Posted 18 January, 2013 Posted 18 January, 2013 Classic happy clappy reaction to Spanish SSN reporter saying the dude is "good" Quite the opposite, I don't think the guy will do any better than Adkins would have done to the end of the season and some of the reports say that this guy is praising the way that the team is playing. Does he think the team was playing in a vacuum or under the manager before him? This managerial change is so bizarre...
hypochondriac Posted 18 January, 2013 Posted 18 January, 2013 Pretty sure everyone talking about how jolly exciting this new start is, and slagging off everyone else as "Daily Mail wristslitters" would have been going apesh it if someone had started a "Adkins must go" thread 24 hours ago. Yep. Pretty much the ONLY good thing to come out of this sorry situation is that those with a blindly support the club mentality have been shown up for what they are.
Thedelldays Posted 18 January, 2013 Posted 18 January, 2013 Yep. Pretty much the ONLY good thing to come out of this sorry situation is that those with a blindly support the club mentality have been shown up for what they are. what....? we have replaced a manager....really oddly..but lets not pretend this is a one off...or even close to it at SFC or football in general
aintforever Posted 18 January, 2013 Posted 18 January, 2013 Classic happy clappy reaction to Spanish SSN reporter saying the dude is "good" Exactly. When we hired Wotte and Poortvleit we had Dutch geezers saying how great they are. Fact is, since he was sacked from Espanyol their results have improved.
CB Fry Posted 18 January, 2013 Posted 18 January, 2013 Yep. Pretty much the ONLY good thing to come out of this sorry situation is that those with a blindly support the club mentality have been shown up for what they are. The game is up for the "managerial consistency is king" bore brigade at last. Nigel's mangerial body is barely cold in the ground but the way some of them have turned their back on him is staggering.
Dig Dig Posted 18 January, 2013 Posted 18 January, 2013 The game is up for the "managerial consistency is king" bore brigade at last. Nigel's mangerial body is barely cold in the ground but the way some of them have turned their back on him is staggering. You need to be more pragmatic. Apparently
Leicestersaint Posted 18 January, 2013 Posted 18 January, 2013 That's how I'm trying to see the management change, so here's a new thread as an antidote to all the Daily Mail style wrist slitters on here today. Anyone else see it the same way? As a season ticket holder who has followed them back up into the PL I am afraid i do not see it that way - quite the opposite. I see it as probably a disaster.
Thedelldays Posted 18 January, 2013 Posted 18 January, 2013 As a season ticket holder who has followed them back up into the PL I am afraid i do not see it that way - quite the opposite. I see it as probably a disaster. just reading the thread when pardew was sacked....the whole team was going to walk..or something I agree, today is mental but lets see how it goes
CB Fry Posted 18 January, 2013 Posted 18 January, 2013 what....? we have replaced a manager....really oddly..but lets not pretend this is a one off...or even close to it at SFC or football in general Weird thing is mate you've been getting hammered for your early season view on Nige, Alpine gets slated and called a wristslitter for his views. But now it turns out the Daily Mail wristslitters are actually the ones who think sacking Nigel is a bad idea. So you (back then) and Alpine were right all along. Adkins out, he's sh it after all.
itchen_dan Posted 18 January, 2013 Posted 18 January, 2013 Exactly. When we hired Wotte and Poortvleit we had Dutch geezers saying how great they are. Fact is, since he was sacked from Espanyol their results have improved. So if our results now improve under Pechottino, would no-one employ Adkins? Come on, think about what you're saying before posting it.
Thedelldays Posted 18 January, 2013 Posted 18 January, 2013 Weird thing is mate you've been getting hammered for your early season view on Nige, Alpine gets slated and called a wristslitter for his views. But now it turns out the Daily Mail wristslitters are actually the ones who think sacking Nigel is a bad idea. So you (back then) and Alpine were right all along. Adkins out, he's sh it after all. I admit..I thought a change back end november would have been on the cards and I would not have complained at all..but now...its insane however, the exact same words were said when pardew was sacked and a 'no mark" from scunny was brought in... however, this is just one in many of a huge catelogue in weird football manager appointments......
Dig Dig Posted 18 January, 2013 Posted 18 January, 2013 I saw MLG on twitter today suggesting that Adkins could have done better after being the 7th best backed manager financially in Europe. All after spending the last few months on here defending our transfers. I have no respect for that at all.
Thedelldays Posted 18 January, 2013 Posted 18 January, 2013 I saw MLG on twitter today suggesting that Adkins could have done better after being the 7th best backed manager financially in Europe. All after spending the last few months on here defending our transfers. I have no respect for that at all. you HAVE to be kidding me..?
PercyR Posted 18 January, 2013 Posted 18 January, 2013 Exactly. When we hired Wotte and Poortvleit we had Dutch geezers saying how great they are. Fact is, since he was sacked from Espanyol their results have improved. True, I believe this guy has been set an well nigh impossible task by NC especially if he wants to win the fans over, as he say he does. Adkins and the team were on an upwardly mobile trajectory which I, dare say, would have improved next season with experience so this guy is going to have to be some sort of miracle worker, which on his current record he clearly isn't, to bring the fans (and the team) on his side. Let's see what happens....
revolution saint Posted 18 January, 2013 Posted 18 January, 2013 OK here's my take on it, and it could be quite rambling so apologies for that. Does anyone else think we've become slaves to a strategic, long term vision? I do. There's nothing wrong with having ambition, developing the academy etc but does anyone seriously think we stand a better chance of survival with a bloke who, respected though he may be, doesn't speak the native language, has no experience in this league and joins mid season or someone who knows the players and has done a half decent job (NA)? Personally I really can't see any reason to sack NA at this point in time - he's our best chance of survival. What worries me is the return of "the Southampton way" which dictates we always play a certain way (4-3-3) and we must have x amount of academy players in the team. A fine and well intentioned ideal but we need to survive and establish ourselves over time to achieve that - I'm not sure we're there yet. If you listen to the new fella's interviews it's all about the "project" and it has more than a whiff of the poortvliet about it. This season is all about staying up - nothing more, and IMO today's decision has made that more unlikely.
Toadhall Saint Posted 18 January, 2013 Posted 18 January, 2013 I saw MLG on twitter today suggesting that Adkins could have done better after being the 7th best backed manager financially in Europe. All after spending the last few months on here defending our transfers. I have no respect for that at all. Hmmm now that is disappointing
channonball Posted 18 January, 2013 Posted 18 January, 2013 Good write up on the NBC. I'm feeling positive! COYR
trousers Posted 18 January, 2013 Posted 18 January, 2013 Pretty sure everyone talking about how jolly exciting this new start is, and slagging off everyone else as "Daily Mail wristslitters" would have been going apesh it if someone had started a "Adkins must go" thread 24 hours ago. I didn't want Adkins to go 24 hours ago but I'm equally "excited" about what yhis new chap might achieve. Not sure what's inconsistent there?
revolution saint Posted 18 January, 2013 Posted 18 January, 2013 Weird thing is mate you've been getting hammered for your early season view on Nige, Alpine gets slated and called a wristslitter for his views. But now it turns out the Daily Mail wristslitters are actually the ones who think sacking Nigel is a bad idea. So you (back then) and Alpine were right all along. Adkins out, he's sh it after all. Erm, no, delldays and alps thought NA should go, everyone else thought differently, results changed for the better, delldays and alps changed their minds, everyone else stayed the same.
CB Fry Posted 18 January, 2013 Posted 18 January, 2013 I didn't want Adkins to go 24 hours ago but I'm equally "excited" about what yhis new chap might achieve. Not sure what's inconsistent there? Maybe you should have wanted him to go if this new dawn is so jolly exciting. You were clearly deluded yesterday. I want this new guy sacked by the end of the month. Because when the next guy takes over it'll be brilliant.
Roger Posted 18 January, 2013 Posted 18 January, 2013 I didn't want Adkins to go 24 hours ago but I'm equally "excited" about what yhis new chap might achieve. Not sure what's inconsistent there? Fickle as. I am struggling with this. It just isn't right.
Golac's Cunning Stunts Posted 18 January, 2013 Posted 18 January, 2013 Maybe I'm being short-sighted but I just can't see what credentials this guy brings to the table that is above Adkins own. If we win every game until the end of the season then I might start to believe the hype.... Well, let's start with a basic requirement: Cortese: We have players who can barely understand english, so you need to be able to communicate clearly. Can you do that? Argentinian manager bloke: que? Cortese: Excellent you have the job Regardless of any other credentials the cock can't even speak the same language as our Ricky. This has disaster written all over it I'm afraid
hypochondriac Posted 18 January, 2013 Posted 18 January, 2013 Erm, no, delldays and alps thought NA should go, everyone else thought differently, results changed for the better, delldays and alps changed their minds, everyone else stayed the same. Not sure you understood what he was saying.
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