Thedelldays Posted 18 January, 2013 Share Posted 18 January, 2013 Forren has let slip he knew adkins was being replaced....according to BBC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotonjoe Posted 18 January, 2013 Share Posted 18 January, 2013 Do you want this to be like an episode of Eastenders? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 18 January, 2013 Share Posted 18 January, 2013 His name was Atkins dude Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 18 January, 2013 Share Posted 18 January, 2013 Link? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griffo Posted 18 January, 2013 Share Posted 18 January, 2013 (edited) This is the one thing that doesn't sit right with me. Going behind his back and doing that.. and if he did know then fair play to him for carrying on with his job. If it was me I'd have resigned the second I knew my replacement was being lined up. Sounds like Adkins didn't even know he was being sacked though and only found out from the press this morning. That makes Cortese even more of a nob'ed. Edited 18 January, 2013 by Griffo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colbury Posted 18 January, 2013 Share Posted 18 January, 2013 This is the one thing that doesn't sit right with me. Going behind his back and doing that.. and if he did know then fair play to him for carrying on with his job. If it was me I'd have resigned the second I knew my replacement was being lined up. Obviously wanted his contract paid up which wouldn't have happened had he resigned. Can't say I blame him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotonjoe Posted 18 January, 2013 Share Posted 18 January, 2013 His name was Atkins dude Like Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobM Posted 18 January, 2013 Share Posted 18 January, 2013 This is the one thing that doesn't sit right with me. Going behind his back and doing that.. and if he did know then fair play to him for carrying on with his job. If it was me I'd have resigned the second I knew my replacement was being lined up. Then you would have walked away from a big fat payoff. Being sacked will do Adkins future career prospects no harm at all, in fact it may help them since he was on the up and can rightly feel hard done by, so it's not like there is any shame to it. Waiting until Cortese pushed him means he would have been paid off. Walking away earlier would have sacrificed that. It would have also left is in the lurch with no manager for the Chelsea game (plus others, perhaps). Sadly, that's how football works these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingsland Red Posted 18 January, 2013 Share Posted 18 January, 2013 Well, Thedelldays, I was rather surprised by NA's lack of excitement when asked about Forren after the Chelsea game. Something along the lines of " You'd better ask those that know". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griffo Posted 18 January, 2013 Share Posted 18 January, 2013 Obviously wanted his contract paid up which wouldn't have happened had he resigned. Can't say I blame him. Then you would have walked away from a big fat payoff. Sadly, that's how football works these days. Hadn't thought about that. In that case I would hang on to get as much money as possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotonjoe Posted 18 January, 2013 Share Posted 18 January, 2013 This is the one thing that doesn't sit right with me. Going behind his back and doing that.. and if he did know then fair play to him for carrying on with his job. If it was me I'd have resigned the second I knew my replacement was being lined up. Sounds like Adkins didn't even know he was being sacked though and only found out from the press this morning. That makes Cortese even more of a nob'ed. So you would have preferred us to sack him, start looking for a manger, and finally appoint one four weeks later? Ok then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griffo Posted 18 January, 2013 Share Posted 18 January, 2013 So you would have preferred us to sack him, start looking for a manger, and finally appoint one four weeks later? Ok then. When do you ever see clubs that take a month to appoint a new manager? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 18 January, 2013 Share Posted 18 January, 2013 This is the one thing that doesn't sit right with me. Going behind his back and doing that.. and if he did know then fair play to him for carrying on with his job. If it was me I'd have resigned the second I knew my replacement was being lined up. Sounds like Adkins didn't even know he was being sacked though and only found out from the press this morning. That makes Cortese even more of a nob'ed. Think about it. He would never resign. He was a low level player, then manager, then a physio, S****horpe, now us. I bet his contract with us was worth more than he'd earnt is all his years as a physio and manager before that. He resigns, he loses all that and might be viewed as a bit of a quitter when the heat was on. He's left with his contract paid up, a fantastic reputation in tact and the sympathy of the football world. He'll walk into another job at a top championship club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinger Posted 18 January, 2013 Share Posted 18 January, 2013 Think about it. He would never resign. He was a low level player, then manager, then a physio, S****horpe, now us. I bet his contract with us was worth more than he'd earnt is all his years as a physio and manager before that. He resigns, he loses all that and might be viewed as a bit of a quitter when the heat was on. He's left with his contract paid up, a fantastic reputation in tact and the sympathy of the football world. He'll walk into another job at a top championship club. This seems fairly put. And NA strikes me as the kind of guy that would play on with a professional face whatever was going on, even in the knowledge he was being sacked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 18 January, 2013 Share Posted 18 January, 2013 It's been an open secret in football circles that NC had been hunting for a new manager but I must admit that I thought he'd weathered the storm but obviously not. I'd assumed that RdM had turned us down and we'd replace NA in the summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotonjoe Posted 18 January, 2013 Share Posted 18 January, 2013 When do you ever see clubs that take a month to appoint a new manager? Wolves failed to appoint one at all! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 18 January, 2013 Share Posted 18 January, 2013 Whilst not NA,s biggest fan, I think NA is a man of the highest integrity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anothersaintinsouthsea Posted 18 January, 2013 Share Posted 18 January, 2013 I'd imagine that Adkins would've had a cast iron case for constructive dismissal. Don't think money played any part in this sorry episode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 18 January, 2013 Share Posted 18 January, 2013 According to the BBC Adkins found out he was sacked from reporters. F*cking disgraceful if true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 18 January, 2013 Share Posted 18 January, 2013 According to the BBC Adkins found out he was sacked from reporters. F*cking disgraceful if true. Shocking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 18 January, 2013 Share Posted 18 January, 2013 Not shocking. Mentioned in other thread. "Parting of the ways" was mentioned right after we achieved promotion. Defo something in Nixon's story too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 18 January, 2013 Share Posted 18 January, 2013 Not shocking. Mentioned in other thread. "Parting of the ways" was mentioned right after we achieved promotion. Everything points back to those comments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pingwing Posted 18 January, 2013 Share Posted 18 January, 2013 Probably knew Cortese has been looking for a new manager for months, probably very aware the best thing to do is to carry on with his job as a professional and ignore any speculation on his job, Cortese probably was in for Pep and RDM who wouldn't go for the job whilst Adkins was still there. One of those who can he get in that will take the job like that not wait for the vacancy to appear... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 18 January, 2013 Share Posted 18 January, 2013 Not shocking. Mentioned in other thread. "Parting of the ways" was mentioned right after we achieved promotion. Defo something in Nixon's story too. Nixons story? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 18 January, 2013 Share Posted 18 January, 2013 Everything points back to those comments. I found it odd that Alan Nixon "got his RdM story wrong". He got so much else right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 18 January, 2013 Share Posted 18 January, 2013 Nixons story? RdM to replace NA, just before start of this season, I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 18 January, 2013 Share Posted 18 January, 2013 RdM to replace NA, just before start of this season, I think. I'm 100% sure that RdM was offered the job. When he wasn't appointed in November I assumed, clearly incorrectly, that Adkins had weathered the storm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 18 January, 2013 Share Posted 18 January, 2013 RdM to replace NA, just before start of this season, I think. Yeah did a quick google on it. Remember it now. I expect he was offered it to be honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le Tissier Posted 18 January, 2013 Share Posted 18 January, 2013 Nigel put up with a lot. Back in November he had candidates for his job watching from the stands. That's just insulting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 18 January, 2013 Share Posted 18 January, 2013 Nigel put up with a lot. Back in November he had candidates for his job watching from the stands. That's just insulting. who? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 18 January, 2013 Share Posted 18 January, 2013 id like to hear Niges take on his time at saints, particularly the last year 9 months or so when he was clearly a dead man walking. I doubt we ever will though as he's too honourable and i would imagine like many, many other ex employees under NDA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 18 January, 2013 Share Posted 18 January, 2013 Nigel put up with a lot. Back in November he had candidates for his job watching from the stands. That's just insulting. A bit like WGS watching from the stands before he was named manager you mean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 18 January, 2013 Share Posted 18 January, 2013 Nigel put up with a lot. Back in November he had candidates for his job watching from the stands. That's just insulting. Such as? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 18 January, 2013 Share Posted 18 January, 2013 Forren said he met MP yesterday, so he obviously knew then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 18 January, 2013 Share Posted 18 January, 2013 I'd like to float a theory. A lot of people assumed that the ol' cliche factory routine was a front. Had to be. Back to back promotions speak for themselves. Those were clearly the actions of a footballing genius guarding his true intentions; keeping the opposition from knowing what we were up to. What if the cliche factory routine was genuinely Nige's football philosophy? One of the very first things Nigel said after his appointment was that football was a simple game. A lot of managers have done very well out of getting the basics right and motivating their players. Nige strikes me as someone who is very good at the meta-game, the individual battles, opportunity creation, etc. There have been times where I've wondered whether he knows how it all fits together. Cortese wants to bring in a Southampton style. If NA had responded in TV interview style when asked about his footballing philosophy, I'd have to wonder how impressed NC was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 18 January, 2013 Share Posted 18 January, 2013 Before the Villa game a few, myself included, said that if NA lost it could be his last game. Things haven't felt right all season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 18 January, 2013 Share Posted 18 January, 2013 @NabilHassan79: The Mirror are tonight reporting Nigel Adkins found out he had been sacked when seeing the news on television. Shocking if true. #saintsfc http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/nigel-adkins-sacked-southampton-manager-1544359 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorpe-le-Saint Posted 18 January, 2013 Share Posted 18 January, 2013 According to the BBC Adkins found out he was sacked from reporters. F*cking disgraceful if true. If that is true, this is no longer the club i fell in love with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 18 January, 2013 Share Posted 18 January, 2013 @NabilHassan79: The Mirror are tonight reporting Nigel Adkins found out he had been sacked when seeing the news on television. Shocking if true. #saintsfc http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/nigel-adkins-sacked-southampton-manager-1544359 Backs up my lil theory:- Adkins was seen as having weaknesses - particularly when it came to communication skills - and the ex-Bangor and S****horpe manager was, in the eyes of some squad members, still learning as he went along in the Premier League. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 18 January, 2013 Share Posted 18 January, 2013 Before the Villa game a few, myself included, said that if NA lost it could be his last game. Things haven't felt right all season. The first of the "dirt" articles. http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/southampton-sack-nigel-adkins-the-writing-1544510 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le Tissier Posted 18 January, 2013 Share Posted 18 January, 2013 A bit like WGS watching from the stands before he was named manager you mean. Exactly like that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delboy Dave Posted 19 January, 2013 Share Posted 19 January, 2013 This whole episode fu cking stinks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 19 January, 2013 Share Posted 19 January, 2013 Does the club employ a PR firm anymore? If so they aren't doing a very good job! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 19 January, 2013 Share Posted 19 January, 2013 Does the club employ a PR firm anymore? If so they aren't doing a very good job! Max Clifford has been distracted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 29 January, 2013 Author Share Posted 29 January, 2013 Fergie said he had spoken to adkins day(s) before he was sacked about him being sacked....and that he knew he was going I reckon adkins knew he was going some time before he did Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 29 January, 2013 Share Posted 29 January, 2013 Fergie said he had spoken to adkins day(s) before he was sacked about him being sacked....and that he knew he was going I reckon adkins knew he was going some time before he did I saw this in the paper on sunday, DD. Glad your brought this up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 29 January, 2013 Share Posted 29 January, 2013 Fergie said he had spoken to adkins day(s) before he was sacked about him being sacked....and that he knew he was going I reckon adkins knew he was going some time before he did Well of course he did, he was on borrowed time from the day we lost at home to Sunderland if not sooner. The preparation for that game was obviously insufficient given that we'd had about 2 free weeks leading up to it. Not to mention his scandalously bad handling of the keeper situation leading to points being lost where they'd had already been won. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niceandfriendly Posted 29 January, 2013 Share Posted 29 January, 2013 Yeah it seems he must have known he was going before he did. still feel sorry for the bloke, but that's football. it's funny though how this is being used by the desperate as another stick to bash cortese with, whereas if adkins had been sacked and we had no replacement already lined up there would have been outrage from the same usual suspects! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 29 January, 2013 Share Posted 29 January, 2013 So, those reports suggesting he knew nothing until the news started breaking on the day were wide of the mark...? Seems slightly odd to get on the phone to Ferguson about it though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dingbattigger Posted 29 January, 2013 Share Posted 29 January, 2013 So, those reports suggesting he knew nothing until the news started breaking on the day were wide of the mark...? Or maybe he knew he was going, just didn't know when.....? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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