The9 Posted 10 May, 2013 Share Posted 10 May, 2013 told you so, I'm convinced Markus left the club to Nicola Which of course has some enormous ramifications for our ability to compete in the transfer market and how we'd fund that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 10 May, 2013 Share Posted 10 May, 2013 It's easy to be selective of which 14 game run under Adkins you use. Try it again with Adkins' first 14 games in the Premier League compared to Pochettino's first 14 games in the Premier League. Depends what you're trying to ascertain, I'd have thought. If you're comparing managers overall then yes, maybe finding similar matches is the way to go. If you're assessing the notion that MP has improved us a team and is immediately getting better results, then I feel it better to look at the past 28 games as its 14 each. Neither method is flawless, of course, just an indicator. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Outsider Posted 10 May, 2013 Share Posted 10 May, 2013 It's easy to be selective of which 14 game run under Adkins you use. Try it again with Adkins' first 14 games in the Premier League compared to Pochettino's first 14 games in the Premier League. Im not being selective, it makes perfect sense to compare Adkins Last 14 games against Pochettinos first 14 (14 chosen because thats the sum total of games Pochettino has played). This is the best comparison because both managers had access to similar resources during this time. If we compare Adkins first 14 vs Pochettinos first 14 then it is not a fair comparison as there were different players available to the managers during this time and that the players had no experience at this level. Still, just to entertain your agenda, Adkins record would be 12 points from the first 14 vs Pochettinos 17 points over the same time. So despite it being a ridiculous comparison, skewed to Pochettinos advantage by factoring out the improvements made to the playing squad and tactical improvements by Adkins in the intervening time, plus by missing out all the points gained by the team in the intervening time, the results even then are still comparable. Of course, the last 14 vs first 14 is a much fairer comparison as everyone knows, the point stands that any reasonably minded person would be able to see that the comparative points totals between the two managers does not support the argument that we have improved massively under MP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 10 May, 2013 Share Posted 10 May, 2013 Which of course has some enormous ramifications for our ability to compete in the transfer market and how we'd fund that... club was aways supposed to be run on a stand alone basis. Perhaps there was a couple of bob thrown in eh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 10 May, 2013 Share Posted 10 May, 2013 club was aways supposed to be run on a stand alone basis. Perhaps there was a couple of bob thrown in eh. Doesn't bode well for our European ambition, does it ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 10 May, 2013 Share Posted 10 May, 2013 told you so, I'm convinced Markus left the club to Nicola Running, not owning. Cortese doesn't own the club, I'm 99% sure of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 10 May, 2013 Share Posted 10 May, 2013 Running, not owning. Cortese doesn't own the club, I'm 99% sure of that. How are you sure ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 10 May, 2013 Share Posted 10 May, 2013 How are you sure ? Because I am. The world doesn't work like that. If he didn't own it the Liebherrs would not come to any games. The company would have changed hands, which we would all be aware of, even the Echo could use their limited journalistic skill to find that info. The fact that the Liebherrs turned the debt into equity in the form of shares, at the end of last season. Plus with the sudden death of Markus and the fact that as Cheif Exec, when he died Cortese had achieved nothing with the club and I am pretty sure something of this value wouldn't just be handed over in a will. Actually, looking at this I want to revise my statement, I'm 100% sure Cortese doesn't own the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marsdinho Posted 10 May, 2013 Share Posted 10 May, 2013 Hard to say. However I do still think Cortese acted like a douche in the way he treated Adkins. For me it isn't/wasn't about if the guy coming in was better it was about treating a guy who got us promoted twice with some respect. Are you a 14 year old girl from America by any chance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank's cousin Posted 10 May, 2013 Share Posted 10 May, 2013 Results results, points... blah blah, all that is missing from teh NIge v Poch comparisons is the standard 'its a results buisness...'' blah blah.... welll Stoke get results, WHam get results, yet quite rightly IMHO they are criticised for the way they do it. NIge had us playing a proper style... but it does not take a huge football brain to se that we have stepped this up under Poch. Its also no surprise that we have performed and gained results against those sides who dont sit back and defend.... the better sides. Its no surprize to me that we do still struggle a bit with our style against the more defensive sides as we still do not have the level of quality that the top sides have in addressing this, but we are young and developing... not all fans are more worruied about points, but personnaly I am more interested in how we play... IMO, Poch has improved this and with additioanl squad depth and time to work over the summer, feel we can take another step forward, without compromising the entertaining style we want to play. As to 'how NIge was treated'...jeez, we dont know how he was treated yet many seem perfectlyu happy to assume it was bad, because the media told you so.... there is more credence in the theroy that NIge knew he was out after Coventry than any of the stuff reported since - he played his part and played it well within the plan... as Pochetino will... As to writing a ****ty letter with the fricken supreme arrogance to suggest 'all fans'' .... no one has the right to do that. You want to write with your opinion fair enough, but teh presumption all fans agree is pretty outrageous... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 10 May, 2013 Share Posted 10 May, 2013 Results results, points... blah blah, all that is missing from teh NIge v Poch comparisons is the standard 'its a results buisness...'' blah blah.... welll Stoke get results, WHam get results, yet quite rightly IMHO they are criticised for the way they do it. NIge had us playing a proper style... but it does not take a huge football brain to se that we have stepped this up under Poch. Its also no surprise that we have performed and gained results against those sides who dont sit back and defend.... the better sides. Its no surprize to me that we do still struggle a bit with our style against the more defensive sides as we still do not have the level of quality that the top sides have in addressing this, but we are young and developing... not all fans are more worruied about points, but personnaly I am more interested in how we play... IMO, Poch has improved this and with additioanl squad depth and time to work over the summer, feel we can take another step forward, without compromising the entertaining style we want to play. As to 'how NIge was treated'...jeez, we dont know how he was treated yet many seem perfectlyu happy to assume it was bad, because the media told you so.... there is more credence in the theroy that NIge knew he was out after Coventry than any of the stuff reported since - he played his part and played it well within the plan... as Pochetino will... As to writing a ****ty letter with the fricken supreme arrogance to suggest 'all fans'' .... no one has the right to do that. You want to write with your opinion fair enough, but teh presumption all fans agree is pretty outrageous... We have more shots under Pochettino I heard somewhere...where's Turkish to confirm this for us? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marsdinho Posted 10 May, 2013 Share Posted 10 May, 2013 Results results, points... blah blah, all that is missing from teh NIge v Poch comparisons is the standard 'its a results buisness...'' blah blah.... welll Stoke get results, WHam get results, yet quite rightly IMHO they are criticised for the way they do it. NIge had us playing a proper style... but it does not take a huge football brain to se that we have stepped this up under Poch. Its also no surprise that we have performed and gained results against those sides who dont sit back and defend.... the better sides. Its no surprize to me that we do still struggle a bit with our style against the more defensive sides as we still do not have the level of quality that the top sides have in addressing this, but we are young and developing... not all fans are more worruied about points, but personnaly I am more interested in how we play... IMO, Poch has improved this and with additioanl squad depth and time to work over the summer, feel we can take another step forward, without compromising the entertaining style we want to play. As to 'how NIge was treated'...jeez, we dont know how he was treated yet many seem perfectlyu happy to assume it was bad, because the media told you so.... there is more credence in the theroy that NIge knew he was out after Coventry than any of the stuff reported since - he played his part and played it well within the plan... as Pochetino will... As to writing a ****ty letter with the fricken supreme arrogance to suggest 'all fans'' .... no one has the right to do that. You want to write with your opinion fair enough, but teh presumption all fans agree is pretty outrageous... I wonder if St Marco has written to Barclays about how the bank is run, or Tesco's about their pricing structure, or Maclaren F1 for not winning the title last year.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 10 May, 2013 Share Posted 10 May, 2013 Hard to say. However I do still think Cortese acted like a douche in the way he treated Adkins. For me it isn't/wasn't about if the guy coming in was better it was about treating a guy who got us promoted twice with some respect. Totally agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 10 May, 2013 Share Posted 10 May, 2013 club was aways supposed to be run on a stand alone basis. Perhaps there was a couple of bob thrown in eh. What convinced you that the club was left to Cortese? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 10 May, 2013 Share Posted 10 May, 2013 I wonder if St Marco has written to Barclays about how the bank is run, or Tesco's about their pricing structure, or Maclaren F1 for not winning the title last year.... People write letters of complaint to companies all the time, not really a big deal is it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 10 May, 2013 Share Posted 10 May, 2013 People write letters of complaint to companies all the time, not really a big deal is it. Or really comparable to being a fan of a football club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marsdinho Posted 10 May, 2013 Share Posted 10 May, 2013 What convinced you that the club was left to Cortese? Maybe the handing over the reigns of the club formed part of the "secret message" from Marcus that Cortese alluded to, who knows....certainly not us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marsdinho Posted 10 May, 2013 Share Posted 10 May, 2013 Or really comparable to being a fan of a football club. A football club is a business these days, those examples I gave you are also business'. HTH. Some people just cant be "a fan" - they have to get more involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 10 May, 2013 Share Posted 10 May, 2013 Because I am. The world doesn't work like that. If he didn't own it the Liebherrs would not come to any games. The company would have changed hands, which we would all be aware of, even the Echo could use their limited journalistic skill to find that info. The fact that the Liebherrs turned the debt into equity in the form of shares, at the end of last season. Plus with the sudden death of Markus and the fact that as Cheif Exec, when he died Cortese had achieved nothing with the club and I am pretty sure something of this value wouldn't just be handed over in a will. Actually, looking at this I want to revise my statement, I'm 100% sure Cortese doesn't own the club. Good points, well made Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 10 May, 2013 Share Posted 10 May, 2013 A football club is a business these days, those examples I gave you are also business'. HTH. Some people just cant be "a fan" - they have to get more involved. What is "fan" short for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 10 May, 2013 Share Posted 10 May, 2013 fannies yo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marsdinho Posted 10 May, 2013 Share Posted 10 May, 2013 What is "fan" short for? From the Collins dictionary: "surpassing what is normal or accepted in enthusiasm for or belief in something; excessively or unusually dedicated or devoted". Cant see any mention of sticking your oar in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 10 May, 2013 Share Posted 10 May, 2013 I, or Maclaren F1 for not winning the title last year.... or to McLaren for the way they make their pushchairs... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 10 May, 2013 Share Posted 10 May, 2013 From the Collins dictionary: "surpassing what is normal or accepted in enthusiasm for or belief in something; excessively or unusually dedicated or devoted". Cant see any mention of sticking your oar in. Rightyho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 10 May, 2013 Share Posted 10 May, 2013 (edited) I wonder if St Marco has written to Barclays about how the bank is run, or Tesco's about their pricing structure, or Maclaren F1 for not winning the title last year.... Im sorry you feel so powerless to change anything, maybe you have a victim mentality. One of the senior buyers at Sainsbury's told me a couple of years ago that if the CEO gets five letters from customers on the same subject in the space of a year then he requires a full report from his senior managers on what the problem is and what they have done about it because he knows that if 5 people can be bothered to write at least another 495 will have the same view but wont have bothered - and 500 people spending or not spending £100pw is worth £2.6m pa to his company . I got some very good and interesting info from making a small effort to be proactive. You should try it. Edited 10 May, 2013 by buctootim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Marco Posted 10 May, 2013 Author Share Posted 10 May, 2013 I wonder if St Marco has written to Barclays about how the bank is run, or Tesco's about their pricing structure, or Maclaren F1 for not winning the title last year.... Not really sure that is the same thing is it? Barclays, Tesco, McLaren all have jack **** to do with me. They can run their companies how they wish as I have no interest in them, they don't reflect our city or fans. The club is very different. When Cortese makes a decision both good or bad it has an impact on how people see us, how they see the city. We are not in the news much so chances are when we are it is football related. Point being if you look at what peoples opinions of the club are a lot will be based around things that Cortese has done or more specific the way he has gone about things. Is it really so difficult to just do what every other club has done and sack their manager with a bit of dignity? Why do we have to act like spoilt brats when we do stuff like that? As for the other comment about being American, I actually have an American partner and spend a lot of time there so I guess that has an influence on me. What are all the cool kids saying now then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 10 May, 2013 Share Posted 10 May, 2013 Maybe the handing over the reigns of the club formed part of the "secret message" from Marcus that Cortese alluded to, who knows....certainly not us. Enough to convince Window Cleaner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 10 May, 2013 Share Posted 10 May, 2013 Because I am. The world doesn't work like that. If he didn't own it the Liebherrs would not come to any games. The company would have changed hands, which we would all be aware of, even the Echo could use their limited journalistic skill to find that info. The fact that the Liebherrs turned the debt into equity in the form of shares, at the end of last season. Plus with the sudden death of Markus and the fact that as Cheif Exec, when he died Cortese had achieved nothing with the club and I am pretty sure something of this value wouldn't just be handed over in a will. Actually, looking at this I want to revise my statement, I'm 100% sure Cortese doesn't own the club. You mean if he DID own it the Liebherrs wouldn't come ? Fair point... but does anyone else have the power to make decisions that could remove Cortese ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 10 May, 2013 Share Posted 10 May, 2013 As to 'how NIge was treated'...jeez, we dont know how he was treated yet many seem perfectlyu happy to assume it was bad, because the media told you so.... The club removed every mention of his name from the following home programme, that's a pretty good indicator of the level of appreciation being conveyed. The following Man U programme mentioned him nearly 20 times, on a par with mentions of Pochettino. That alone is indicative of "bad treatment", whether the stuff about how he was actually sacked was true or not, and illustrates that the club had no interest in thanking Adkins for his successes in the way the fans clearly wanted to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 10 May, 2013 Share Posted 10 May, 2013 You mean if he DID own it the Liebherrs wouldn't come ? Fair point... but does anyone else have the power to make decisions that could remove Cortese ? At the last count Cortese was a director of the club but it was owned by the shareholders "the estate of Markus Liebherr". So presumably they could remove him or any of the other directors if they so chose. Of course, the current ownership situation is unclear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 10 May, 2013 Share Posted 10 May, 2013 At the last count Cortese was a director of the club but it was owned by the shareholders "the estate of Markus Liebherr". So presumably they could remove him or any of the other directors if they so chose. Of course, the current ownership situation is unclear. Mmm, but in practical terms how is that decision made ? Are we talking "legal representative on behalf of heirs", are we talking "majority decision" ? Not that we'd ever know if or how a decision is made, but it would be nice if we had the foggiest clue of what the structure was and where (if anywhere) the expenditure is or isn't coming from, if only for peace of mind. Wouldn't want the one skate outcast with a brain in his head saying we're not bothered where the club's money is coming from and that we've all got our heads in the sand, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 10 May, 2013 Share Posted 10 May, 2013 Mmm, but in practical terms how is that decision made ? Are we talking "legal representative on behalf of heirs", are we talking "majority decision" ? Not that we'd ever know if or how a decision is made, but it would be nice if we had the foggiest clue of what the structure was and where (if anywhere) the expenditure is or isn't coming from, if only for peace of mind. Wouldn't want the one skate outcast with a brain in his head saying we're not bothered where the club's money is coming from and that we've all got our heads in the sand, etc. Without knowing who the shareholders are or how many of them there are, I'd guess its impossible to know that. I'd much prefer to know who we're owned by and all that, and I'll keep asking the question about our debts, loans etc. But I'm not sure if all the information is going to be too easy to get to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
100% Saint Posted 10 May, 2013 Share Posted 10 May, 2013 Seriously are you joking, Liebherr saved the club from administration with the advice to buy it from who??? Cortese. Who made the choice of appointing Adkins, a relatively unknown manager and took us to the Prem??? Cortese. Who guided the club to a profit this year when most over were making losses??? Cortese. Who appointed Pochettino unknown as a manager but known as a player who plays what could be at the very least top half Premier League football??? Cortese. Why would you confront him if he has done these things for our club? :x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 10 May, 2013 Share Posted 10 May, 2013 Without knowing who the shareholders are or how many of them there are, I'd guess its impossible to know that. I'd much prefer to know who we're owned by and all that, and I'll keep asking the question about our debts, loans etc. But I'm not sure if all the information is going to be too easy to get to. I guess as long as someone's keeping an eye on the level of debt the rest of it doesn't matter unless we're skint or sold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 10 May, 2013 Share Posted 10 May, 2013 Seriously are you joking, Liebherr saved the club from administration with the advice to buy it from who??? Cortese. Who made the choice of appointing Adkins, a relatively unknown manager and took us to the Prem??? Cortese. Who guided the club to a profit this year when most over were making losses??? Cortese. Who appointed Pochettino unknown as a manager but known as a player who plays what could be at the very least top half Premier League football??? Cortese. Why would you confront him if he has done these things for our club? :x Short answer would be "because not everything he's done is good". But even the OP hasn't said anything about confronting Cortese. Plus you might want to check the date of the OP. Also, Pochettino was not "unknown as a manager", he already had a couple of seasons managing in La Liga, and what relevance was his playing career ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
100% Saint Posted 10 May, 2013 Share Posted 10 May, 2013 Short answer would be "because not everything he's done is good". But even the OP hasn't said anything about confronting Cortese. Plus you might want to check the date of the OP. Also, Pochettino was not "unknown as a manager", he already had a couple of seasons managing in La Liga, and what relevance was his playing career ? OK I didn't look at when it was posted it was just on the 1st page of threads so thought it was recent so my bad. Also he was not well known in England is what I meant. So, sorry for the rant it's a Friday and i've had a long week so thanks for putting me in place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 10 May, 2013 Share Posted 10 May, 2013 Damn you cortese ! Damn you from helping us climb from oblivion, sign some decent players, have 4 excellent exciting seasons and a cup win (tin pot I know) and for keeping us in the prem. Damn you for making a difficult decision (it wasnt) to sack a manager that didnt want to be here anymore and replace him with one we fell in love with and got us promoted... Twice. Then damn you for making another tough decision to replace a popular guy for a manager that is highly thought of in the game, has us playing decent football and will probably have better access to players. Give me back Perry, Mcgoldrick and BWP you switalian devil !!! DAMN YOU TO HELL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 10 May, 2013 Share Posted 10 May, 2013 OK I didn't look at when it was posted it was just on the 1st page of threads so thought it was recent so my bad. Also he was not well known in England is what I meant. So, sorry for the rant it's a Friday and i've had a long week so thanks for putting me in place. I thought the "we've never heard of him so he must be unknown" reaction on here was the most interesting thing about the appointment, bit of an island mentality. Like, I don't watch Champions' League much, but I'm not sat here saying Dortmund's kids must be cack just because I hadn't heard of them 2 years ago. That's not specifically referring to you though. At the moment, jury's still out on whether we've got any better. With what we've got at the moment and potentially a few signings you'd hope we'd be looking at top half next season, but there are about 8 other teams in that exact same position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 10 May, 2013 Share Posted 10 May, 2013 Damn you cortese ! Damn you from helping us climb from oblivion, sign some decent players, have 4 excellent exciting seasons and a cup win (tin pot I know) and for keeping us in the prem. Damn you for making a difficult decision (it wasnt) to sack a manager that didnt want to be here anymore and replace him with one we fell in love with and got us promoted... Twice. Then damn you for making another tough decision to replace a popular guy for a manager that is highly thought of in the game, has us playing decent football and will probably have better access to players. Give me back Perry, Mcgoldrick and BWP you switalian devil !!! DAMN YOU TO HELL Still doesn't mean he can't be criticised for some off-field decisions and the impact on fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dellman Posted 10 May, 2013 Share Posted 10 May, 2013 If the OP writs to the owners that's up to him but don't say it's on behalf of 'all' fans, I'm a fan and have been since 1946 and with recent form and future prospects I think we've never had it so good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcjwills Posted 10 May, 2013 Share Posted 10 May, 2013 Still doesn't mean he can't be criticised for some off-field decisions and the impact on fans. The expression taking the rough with the smooth comes to mind, currently the smooth (promotion, premier league, etc...) outweighs the rough (carpark charges etc...) so a no brainer really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 10 May, 2013 Share Posted 10 May, 2013 Still doesn't mean he can't be criticised for some off-field decisions and the impact on fans. True buddy, he has made a lot of strange decisions and there have been many times I have read something and cringed. He has never for me done anything completely rediculous though, not like a statue of M Jackson or a Mandric lookalike. Thats just my opinion though on his off field quirkiness, and some are different which is fair enough. I dont get how many can criticise his footballing decisions though, or have the level of hatred he gets on here at times ? For me it just seems completely over the top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 10 May, 2013 Share Posted 10 May, 2013 True buddy, he has made a lot of strange decisions and there have been many times I have read something and cringed. He has never for me done anything completely rediculous though, not like a statue of M Jackson or a Mandric lookalike. Thats just my opinion though on his off field quirkiness, and some are different which is fair enough. I dont get how many can criticise his footballing decisions though, or have the level of hatred he gets on here at times ? For me it just seems completely over the top To be fair, the Adkins/Pochettino one was a hell of a gamble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintBobby Posted 11 May, 2013 Share Posted 11 May, 2013 that's 2 minutes of my life I'm not getting back. Anyone who has to start a thread wondering how to contact the Liebherr family is clearly a total, dribbling cretin. They are not a difficult family or company to track down. May I recommend something called "Google"? HTH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 11 May, 2013 Share Posted 11 May, 2013 True buddy, he has made a lot of strange decisions and there have been many times I have read something and cringed. He has never for me done anything completely rediculous though, not like a statue of M Jackson or a Mandric lookalike. Thats just my opinion though on his off field quirkiness, and some are different which is fair enough. I dont get how many can criticise his footballing decisions though, or have the level of hatred he gets on here at times ? For me it just seems completely over the top Banning Nick Illingworth for his perfectly valid article on his website criticising the club for removing the installment plan was utterly ridiculous and a disgrace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ibizasaint Posted 11 May, 2013 Share Posted 11 May, 2013 I was talking to a Leeds fan last night about our current situation and future aspirations and when he gave me their side of the story it reminded me of how lucky we are the moment. Highly regarded manager, the prospect of exciting signings this summer and playing the game in a way other clubs are envious of. We should be proud and enjoy it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 11 May, 2013 Share Posted 11 May, 2013 I think it's worth contacting them. Cortese is right but 99% of Saints fans, fans of other clubs, ex-players, the media etc are wrong? Apparently so... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 11 May, 2013 Share Posted 11 May, 2013 Short answer would be "because not everything he's done is good". But even the OP hasn't said anything about confronting Cortese. Plus you might want to check the date of the OP. Also, Pochettino was not "unknown as a manager", he already had a couple of seasons managing in La Liga, and what relevance was his playing career ? What's he done that's bad? A couple of quid as a booking fee and asking people to pay for parking? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 11 May, 2013 Share Posted 11 May, 2013 What's he done that's bad? A couple of quid as a booking fee and asking people to pay for parking? Don't be silly. The list of good things far, far outweighs the list of poor things, but lets not try to pretend the poor things don't exist. They do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 11 May, 2013 Share Posted 11 May, 2013 What's he done that's bad? A couple of quid as a booking fee and asking people to pay for parking?it seems our fans are no different to others, we want to watch top players and invest in the infrastructure but wish for someone else to pay for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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