lordswoodsaints Posted 18 January, 2013 Posted 18 January, 2013 To all those singing silly songs in protest on Monday please refrain from wasting your breath,it's not going to change anything,cortese doesn't give a fook about you or your songs.....the happy clappy,country bumpkin,small family club that we used to know died a long time ago. Cortese has a job to do for the family and he will continue on his path regardless of what you think or do,SFC is now a big business that doesn't require the input of the fans so put your hankies away,roll up your banners and painted sheets, Kerb your silly songs and enjoy the game......does it really matter who's in charge?
sebastian firefly Posted 18 January, 2013 Posted 18 January, 2013 Oh dear what a shame' date=' like I give a flying feck what about it - You guys who need to publically 'emote' please go ahead if it make you feel better about yourselves.[/quote'] i wonder if you sing at games? do you speak out loud, put voice to your opinions about what may or not happen on the pitch? Do you jump up when we score ? do you perhaps curse audibly when we concede or do you sit rooted to your plastic seat motionless and emotionless in case anyone may notice that you might actually care
UpweySaint Posted 18 January, 2013 Posted 18 January, 2013 To all those singing silly songs in protest on Monday please refrain from wasting your breath,it's not going to change anything,cortese doesn't give a fook about you or your songs.....the happy clappy,country bumpkin,small family club that we used to know died a long time ago. Cortese has a job to do for the family and he will continue on his path regardless of what you think or do,SFC is now a big business that doesn't require the input of the fans so put your hankies away,roll up your banners and painted sheets, Kerb your silly songs and enjoy the game......does it really matter who's in charge? Utter tosh. A club with no fans WILL die. It is a worthless business. The club and fans cant be seperated much like people would like to suggest.
Saints Warrior Posted 18 January, 2013 Posted 18 January, 2013 If we didnt protest then that idiot LOWE would still be at the club and we would be non league.
Ed Rooney Posted 18 January, 2013 Posted 18 January, 2013 Seconded. It is OUR club not Cortese's. But for those concerned Everton will be the LAST game I go to all season. No it's not, do you give the manager 12 million to spend and pay someone 60k a week only for him to be on the bench for a big game against a big team. Maybe it was one to many funny starting elevens for cortese
Ed Rooney Posted 18 January, 2013 Posted 18 January, 2013 Utter tosh. A club with no fans WILL die. It is a worthless business. The club and fans cant be seperated much like people would like to suggest. So would you give up on saints and stop going to games for NA ?
lordswoodsaints Posted 18 January, 2013 Posted 18 January, 2013 Utter tosh. A club with no fans WILL die. It is a worthless business. The club and fans cant be seperated much like people would like to suggest. Go ahead and protest your unhappiness........good luck with that
for_heaven's_Saint Posted 18 January, 2013 Posted 18 January, 2013 Regardless of what sort of protest there is or whether the club can function without us, there is 0% chance of Adkins being reinstated, so whilst I don't think we should be happy with the decision, I don't think a protest will do much good.
UpweySaint Posted 18 January, 2013 Posted 18 January, 2013 Regardless of what sort of protest there is or whether the club can function without us' date=' there is 0% chance of Adkins being reinstated, so whilst I don't think we should be happy with the decision, I don't think a protest will do much good.[/quote'] Nobody is THAT deluded we think NA is coming back any time soon. The point is i'm against sitting quietly nodding along pretending it's all A'OKAY
Halo Stickman Posted 18 January, 2013 Posted 18 January, 2013 Win a few games and everyone will have forgotten Adkins, will be singing ‘Pochettino’s Red & White Army’ and praising Cortesse’s decision making I hate this sentiment and the reason I hate it is because it’s true. If we do win a few games this is exactly what will happen because the overwhelming majority of us are just selfish ***ts who don’t really give a damn about others. In footballing terms, as long as we’re winning, who gives a sh1t? But just because it’s true, doesn’t make it right….and doesn’t mean people have to keep ramming it down our throats FFS!
Sour Mash Posted 18 January, 2013 Posted 18 January, 2013 Regardless of what sort of protest there is or whether the club can function without us' date=' there is 0% chance of Adkins being reinstated, so whilst I don't think we should be happy with the decision, I don't think a protest will do much good.[/quote'] Have you seen one post suggest that it would help reinstate Adkins. No-one is suggesting that are they.
merrimd Posted 18 January, 2013 Posted 18 January, 2013 Win a few games and everyone will have forgotten Adkins, will be singing ‘Pochettino’s Red & White Army’ and praising Cortesse’s decision making I hate this sentiment and the reason I hate it is because it’s true. If we do win a few games this is exactly what will happen because the overwhelming majority of us are just selfish ***ts who don’t really give a damn about others. In footballing terms, as long as we’re winning, who gives a sh1t? But just because it’s true, doesn’t make it right….and doesn’t mean people have to keep ramming it down our throats FFS! Or most football fans support their team, not the manager. I am dissapointed he hss been sacked but he is not family and not a mate. If MP wins games for saints then i will be happy. Sent from my GT-I9300 using Tapatalk 2
Sour Mash Posted 18 January, 2013 Posted 18 January, 2013 Win a few games and everyone will have forgotten Adkins, will be singing ‘Pochettino’s Red & White Army’ and praising Cortesse’s decision making Bet they won't. Few years maybe, won't be a few games.
hypochondriac Posted 18 January, 2013 Posted 18 January, 2013 Bet they won't. Few years maybe, won't be a few games. TBF the likes of Wes, Nick and Frank will be praising Nicola for his visionary genius and brilliance in sacking Adkins if we get a few good results.
Noodles34 Posted 18 January, 2013 Posted 18 January, 2013 Bet they won't. Few years maybe, won't be a few games. Remember Alan Pardew?
Thedelldays Posted 18 January, 2013 Posted 18 January, 2013 TBF the likes of Wes, Nick and Frank will be praising Nicola for his visionary genius and brilliance in sacking Adkins if we get a few good results. lets not pretend that if we stay up..you will also forget it I have not looked at the pardew sacked thread...but I wonder if your reactions were like this then....
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 18 January, 2013 Posted 18 January, 2013 Regardless of what sort of protest there is or whether the club can function without us' date=' there is 0% chance of Adkins being reinstated, so whilst I don't think we should be happy with the decision, I don't think a protest will do much good.[/quote'] Fair point
saintpat Posted 18 January, 2013 Posted 18 January, 2013 Singing 'Only 1 Nigel Adkins' and 'Nigel Adkins red and white army' through the game shouldn't have an adverse effect on the team. I think they will expect it and some(all) will welcome it. You can be sure they will be working even harder than normal to win the game for Nigel- 3 points will be a massive send off for Nigel. the best that the players can do for him. Singing for Nigel for this game will not have a negative effect. Booing/Jeering will not help. After this game we need to get on with it, however much we wanted Nigel to stay, however much it is the wrong decision, the players and new manager need our support. But for Monday, a carnival atmosphere, giving support to our very wronged manager is more than acceptable and the players will be expecting it.
September Saint Posted 18 January, 2013 Posted 18 January, 2013 Bet they won't. Few years maybe, won't be a few games. Let's be honest. It'll all depend on where we are at the end of ther season. My first reaction was almost fury. However life goes on and I quickly learnt to forget/ignore Alan Pardew. I will always have a soft spot for Nigel but a manager of his calibre will always get a job (and has a nice pay-off). We have to accept it's "My ball, My rules" from Cortese and we have 2 choices - like it or lump it! For good or bad it's the world we live in.
Stu Man Do Posted 18 January, 2013 Posted 18 January, 2013 Win a few games and everyone will have forgotten Adkins, will be singing ‘Pochettino’s Red & White Army’ and praising Cortesse’s decision making I hate this sentiment and the reason I hate it is because it’s true. If we do win a few games this is exactly what will happen because the overwhelming majority of us are just selfish ***ts who don’t really give a damn about others. In footballing terms, as long as we’re winning, who gives a sh1t? But just because it’s true, doesn’t make it right….and doesn’t mean people have to keep ramming it down our throats FFS! Unfortunately for the new bloke we have the same tough "start" that Nigel had, both Mancs and an in form Everton, I can see this poor timing change being compounded by 3 defeats in quick succession and the crowd really getting on MPs back.
Sour Mash Posted 18 January, 2013 Posted 18 January, 2013 Let's be honest. It'll all depend on where we are at the end of ther season. My first reaction was almost fury. However life goes on and I quickly learnt to forget/ignore Alan Pardew. I will always have a soft spot for Nigel but a manager of his calibre will always get a job (and has a nice pay-off). We have to accept it's "My ball, My rules" from Cortese and we have 2 choices - like it or lump it! For good or bad it's the world we live in. No, you don't have to roll over and "accept" anything. Plenty of managers, even quite successful ones are never taken to heart by the fans. It's not just about winning games. It's a sad day when Chelsea fans appear less "plastic" than ours. At least they've won a Champs League etc, but still they're aware they've lost their club; our fans seem to roll over and accept anything just on that we might one day, just possibly, get a shout at Champions League qualification.
Chez Posted 18 January, 2013 Posted 18 January, 2013 SFC is now a big business that doesn't require the input of the fans the £12m-£14m input from tickets comes in quite handy though. Who knows, one day we'll pay so much for match tickets we won't need to take BVI loans out.
AussieDog Posted 18 January, 2013 Posted 18 January, 2013 Protest before the players come out on the pitch, protest after they have left (even more effective if we have won the game), but we're Saints fans and regardless of the changes, surely we want the team to still win? Get behind the team that Nige built. The players haven't done anything wrong and they deserve our support. If you really believe that strongly then you won't mind getting home 45 minutes later and staging the main protest after the final whistle.
Chez Posted 18 January, 2013 Posted 18 January, 2013 If Nigel's name is not sung at the start of the game it would be poor form, but I don't want to hear it sung throughout, especially should we fall behind.
Graffito Posted 18 January, 2013 Posted 18 January, 2013 Haven't read the thread so sorry if these points have been made, probably have been many times, but a strong show of thanks and support for what Nigel Adkins has achieved, as opposed to a protest, is totally in order, in fact it's the least we should do. I spent pre match on Wednesday with several Chelsea fans, all totally opposed to the appointment of Benitez. It's a club divided, with predictable results on the pitch. Having shown our appreciation for Nigel the last thing we need is to carry on and do a Chelsea given the precarious position we are in.
for_heaven's_Saint Posted 18 January, 2013 Posted 18 January, 2013 Missing the point more like I didn't miss the point, I don't believe there is one. I am by absolutely no means happy with Adkins being sacked, nor do I bemoan anyone for feeling completely ****ed off, however I do not see the point in focussing on an act of misjustice that will never be reversed. I realise no one believed that Adkins will be reinstated if they sing his name or protest, I just don't agree that there's still a point in doing it when the team's there to support.
Saint Fan CaM Posted 18 January, 2013 Posted 18 January, 2013 While I didn't want to see Nigel go, I can't help thinking that those wishing to protest at the game are more interested in their own self-promotion than in the well-being of the club. Happy to sing one round of 'one NA' and stand to clap him, but then get on with supporting our team.
Sour Mash Posted 18 January, 2013 Posted 18 January, 2013 While I didn't want to see Nigel go, I can't help thinking that those wishing to protest at the game are more interested in their own self-promotion than in the well-being of the club. Happy to sing one round of 'one NA' and stand to clap him, but then get on with supporting our team. How on earth is it "self-promotion"?
richard Posted 18 January, 2013 Posted 18 January, 2013 According to http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2013/jan/18/fans-protest-southampton-sack-nigel-adkins people are going to wave white hankerchiefs. Is this true? Where has it been organised? What do the handkerchiefs mean?
trousers Posted 18 January, 2013 Posted 18 January, 2013 According to http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2013/jan/18/fans-protest-southampton-sack-nigel-adkins people are going to wave white hankerchiefs. Is this true? Where has it been organised? What do the handkerchiefs mean? It's the chap from SISA's idea I believe - the white handkerchief thing is what fans in Spain do at games if they're disgruntled about something. Apparently.
Graffito Posted 18 January, 2013 Posted 18 January, 2013 According to http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2013/jan/18/fans-protest-southampton-sack-nigel-adkins people are going to wave white hankerchiefs. Is this true? Where has it been organised? What do the handkerchiefs mean? Done at football or bullfights in Spain as a sign of disgust.
richard Posted 18 January, 2013 Posted 18 January, 2013 In that case, I think it's a bad idea. Firstly, nobody involved is Spanish. Ok so MP speaks Spanish, but are we really trying to target a protest at him personally? It would be better to find out what they do in Italy. In any case I'd rather just have the O.N.A. chants. At MP can then pretend he didn't hear them, like Rafa did.
Graffito Posted 18 January, 2013 Posted 18 January, 2013 In that case, I think it's a bad idea. Firstly, nobody involved is Spanish. Ok so MP speaks Spanish, but are we really trying to target a protest at him personally? It would be better to find out what they do in Italy. In any case I'd rather just have the O.N.A. chants. At MP can then pretend he didn't hear them, like Rafa did. What they do in Italy? Concrete overcoat.
Bucks Saint Posted 18 January, 2013 Posted 18 January, 2013 I didn't miss the point, I don't believe there is one. I am by absolutely no means happy with Adkins being sacked, nor do I bemoan anyone for feeling completely ****ed off, however I do not see the point in focussing on an act of misjustice that will never be reversed. I realise no one believed that Adkins will be reinstated if they sing his name or protest, I just don't agree that there's still a point in doing it when the team's there to support. I don't believe in rolling over and let Cortese think I am ok with this. I am not. That is all. I don't want to harm the team or the new guy, but I want Cortese to know, and I am sure he will come Mon eve, that I think he is a prize knob
Bucks Saint Posted 18 January, 2013 Posted 18 January, 2013 I didn't miss the point, I don't believe there is one. I am by absolutely no means happy with Adkins being sacked, nor do I bemoan anyone for feeling completely ****ed off, however I do not see the point in focussing on an act of misjustice that will never be reversed. I realise no one believed that Adkins will be reinstated if they sing his name or protest, I just don't agree that there's still a point in doing it when the team's there to support. Happy to hear ideas for how best to do this while not screwing up the team BTW. I see some are on here
CityRanger Posted 18 January, 2013 Posted 18 January, 2013 "Wave white handkerchiefs". Get a f ookin grip Saints fans. Who the f has a white hanky these days anyway its not 1935? lol Get behind the team ffs! Nigel was good, but struggling a bit to get to grips in the Prem, thats a fact. Move on people.
GAS Posted 18 January, 2013 Posted 18 January, 2013 "Wave white handkerchiefs". Get a f ookin grip Saints fans. Who the f has a white hanky these days anyway its not 1935? lol Get behind the team ffs! Nigel was good, but struggling a bit to get to grips in the Prem, thats a fact. Move on people.I've got a sticky hanky with Mickey Mouse on it. Bit small to wave though.
Sour Mash Posted 18 January, 2013 Posted 18 January, 2013 "Wave white handkerchiefs". Get a f ookin grip Saints fans. Who the f has a white hanky these days anyway its not 1935? lol Get behind the team ffs! Nigel was good, but struggling a bit to get to grips in the Prem, thats a fact. Move on people. 2 defeats in 12 is struggling to get to grips? Protesting about the Glazers hasn't done Man Utd too much harm on the pitch has it?
Saint Fan CaM Posted 18 January, 2013 Posted 18 January, 2013 How on earth is it "ypromotion"? Certain people just seem to like the sound of their own voice - militant knoobs always with a cause - not able to see the big picture. Not that I'm generalising of course.
Graffito Posted 18 January, 2013 Posted 18 January, 2013 We could smuggle in a box of matches and set fire to ourselves. Would look good on Sky.
Chez Posted 18 January, 2013 Posted 18 January, 2013 Nigel was good, but struggling a bit to get to grips in the Prem, thats a fact. no it isn't a fact, it's your opinion. We've just been promoted. It's a bloody massive jump. He and his team seem to be coping fine. We've only been stuffed three times all season. We're near the bottom, but if league position determines whether a manager is struggling to cope with the Prem then is Paul Lambert struggling to get to grips with the prem? What about Pardew, Hughes, Martinez, O'Neil, Bagpuss? What about Benitez?
Sour Mash Posted 19 January, 2013 Posted 19 January, 2013 Certain people just seem to like the sound of their own voice - militant knoobs always with a cause - not able to see the big picture. Not that I'm generalising of course. But that's not what you said. How is Saints fans protesting at the game "self-promotion"?
Avenue Saint Posted 19 January, 2013 Posted 19 January, 2013 What purpose is this "protest" to serve?
saintpat Posted 19 January, 2013 Posted 19 January, 2013 What purpose is this "protest" to serve? Can we change from 'protest' to 'outpouring of emotion, thanking one of the best managers this club has ever had'.
Avenue Saint Posted 19 January, 2013 Posted 19 January, 2013 Can we change from 'protest' to 'outpouring of emotion, thanking one of the best managers this club has ever had'. "Win it for Nigel"
JWFG Posted 19 January, 2013 Posted 19 January, 2013 Can we change from 'protest' to 'outpouring of emotion, thanking one of the best managers this club has ever had'. Agreed. I've never posted before, but I'm disgusted by today's events. Surely this is what we should do. The new manager might be brilliant, but I doubt it, and I struggle to see how he could do much better than Nigel.
captainchris Posted 19 January, 2013 Posted 19 January, 2013 We need something visual. Someone on another thread posted an idea of a mass walk out. So when the ref starts the game, everyone leaves their seats and heads underneath the terraces. That would say something. Return after 5 minutes or so. Yawn yawn yawn catch up! Life moves on. Concentrate. On the positives and all the stuff you are are not party to. Stop Feeling so sorry for your selves and focus on the goal. Our owner is focussed and for that we must trust in him. I liked Adkins but he is history we are now focused on the future. We all know nothing about behind the scenes so cannot judge the decision........ Remember Adkins without the money and players would not have achieved what he did....... Lived him but his continued patronising of our supporters was beginning to get rather suspicious and indeed irritating. Substance was becoming increasingly rare. Think about the positives !
shirleysfc Posted 19 January, 2013 Posted 19 January, 2013 Do people think Nigel wants us to protest or support the team? Genuine question.
UpweySaint Posted 19 January, 2013 Posted 19 January, 2013 Yawn yawn yawn catch up! Life moves on. Concentrate. On the positives and all the stuff you are are not party to. Stop Feeling so sorry for your selves and focus on the goal. Our owner is focussed and for that we must trust in him. I liked Adkins but he is history we are now focused on the future. We all know nothing about behind the scenes so cannot judge the decision........ Remember Adkins without the money and players would not have achieved what he did....... Lived him but his continued patronising of our supporters was beginning to get rather suspicious and indeed irritating. Substance was becoming increasingly rare. Think about the positives ! We should openly trust him why exactly? I think the lot down the road have taught us to question whats going on at our club.
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