Appy Posted 17 January, 2013 Share Posted 17 January, 2013 Wigan won't catch us, a draw helps keep Sunderland in touch. All about catching as many mid table teams as possible, looking up not down. So what if they win and we lose on Monday? They would have caught us, but for goal difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 17 January, 2013 Share Posted 17 January, 2013 (edited) So what if they win and we lose on Monday? They would have caught us, but for goal difference. That isn't catching us then is it. Since the beginning of November we have had a far better record than any of the other teams in the bottom 6. We are pulling away from teams in the bottom 6 and catching those from 11th to 14th, it is those teams we want to drop points now. How many Wigan players do you think would get in a Saints best XI of... Boruc Clyne Shaw Forren Yoshida/Fonte Cork Schneiderlin Ramirez Lallana Puncheon Lambert Edited 17 January, 2013 by Matthew Le God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 17 January, 2013 Share Posted 17 January, 2013 so, if we get dicked by man united and man city...and then lose at wigan...then what..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 17 January, 2013 Share Posted 17 January, 2013 I'd be very happy to just keep ourselves out of reach of those below us. If catching a couple of teams above is a by product of that then great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 17 January, 2013 Share Posted 17 January, 2013 Sunderland are not very likely to go down. Wigan are quite possibly going to go down. I would rather keep Wigan below us that worry about being ahead of Sunderland. As Digsy says - if we happen to overtake them then great - but we have to want all the team currently below us to get as few points as possible - that way they cannot overtake us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintjersey Posted 17 January, 2013 Share Posted 17 January, 2013 That isn't catching us then is it. Since the beginning of November we have had a far better record than any of the other teams in the bottom 6. We are pulling away from teams in the bottom 6 and catching those from 11th to 14th, it is those teams we want to drop points now. How many Wigan players do you think would get in a Saints best XI of... Boruc Clyne Shaw Forren Yoshida/Fonte Cork Schneiderlin Ramirez Lallana Puncheon Lambert It doesn't make a difference man for man if we have the better team. All that matters is results. Despite our recent results I'm sure most people would be delighted if we finish 17th. I would much rather Wigan, Reading and QPR lose every game this season as it guarantees our survival which is vitally important this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 17 January, 2013 Share Posted 17 January, 2013 That isn't catching us then is it. Since the beginning of November we have had a far better record than any of the other teams in the bottom 6. We are pulling away from teams in the bottom 6 and catching those from 11th to 14th, it is those teams we want to drop points now. How many Wigan players do you think would get in a Saints best XI of... Boruc Clyne Shaw Forren Yoshida/Fonte Cork Schneiderlin Ramirez Lallana Puncheon Lambert Nobody said anything about the team, you just went into that much detail because you said something that was jumping the gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cascadia Saint Posted 17 January, 2013 Share Posted 17 January, 2013 Everton is looking like a cracking game, just as well because I'm actually going to make it to my first game in about 5 years! Can't wait! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minsk Posted 17 January, 2013 Share Posted 17 January, 2013 I'd be very happy to just keep ourselves out of reach of those below us. If catching a couple of teams above is a by product of that then great. Spot on!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itchen_block4 Posted 17 January, 2013 Share Posted 17 January, 2013 so, if we get dicked by man united and man city...and then lose at wigan...then what..? **** happens, we go and win the next games. In this league, we don't need to win them all. 18 points from 16 games will sit us nicely on 40 points and it's very much achievable. Even if it comes down to the last day, our final game is a very winnable home tie against Stoke, so no need to get the noose out early! Back to Everton. For me, same team that started last night, but with Gaston in for Davis for a more expansive outlook from the start. Lambert coming off the bench was really effective last night as it was on the opening day and it's something I'd like to see ss do more often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 17 January, 2013 Share Posted 17 January, 2013 **** happens, we go and win the next games. In this league, we don't need to win them all. 18 points from 16 games will sit us nicely on 40 points and it's very much achievable. Even if it comes down to the last day, our final game is a very winnable home tie against Stoke, so no need to get the noose out early! Back to Everton. For me, same team that started last night, but with Gaston in for Davis for a more expansive outlook from the start. Lambert coming off the bench was really effective last night as it was on the opening day and it's something I'd like to see ss do more often. No chance, Lambert has to start, especially at home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itchen_block4 Posted 17 January, 2013 Share Posted 17 January, 2013 No chance, Lambert has to start, especially at home. Why though? Solves the Guly/Ramirez issue and the 442/4231 issue and gives us a powerhouse to bring on to change the game. Not the worst plan by a long chalk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the stain Posted 17 January, 2013 Share Posted 17 January, 2013 No chance, Lambert has to start, especially at home. Why though? Solves the Guly/Ramirez issue and the 442/4231 issue and gives us a powerhouse to bring on to change the game. Not the worst plan by a long chalk. Because he scores goals. More goals than anyone else we have. I agree with Appy that at home he needs to be starting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 17 January, 2013 Share Posted 17 January, 2013 Lambert starts for me. When we played there we went and played with essentially 5 up front. Was it Ramirez's first start? Seem to remember us playing Lambert and J-Rod pretty wide up front (think it was to counteract their attacking full backs), with Ramirez in a bit of a false 9 position centrally. and then Lallana left wing and Puncheon right wing. The most naive point of the season IMO. We're a lot more rigid now, but without losing too much of that flair. Would expect Lambert to start instead of J-Rod - although wouldn't be surprised if we went 442 with Ramirez left again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 17 January, 2013 Share Posted 17 January, 2013 Wouldn't surprise me to see our captain involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 17 January, 2013 Share Posted 17 January, 2013 Reckon gaston will be featured in the build up on sky Been doing media work that is like a sky build up style interview He has got a council estate hair cut. Welcome to Southampton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted 17 January, 2013 Share Posted 17 January, 2013 Think this will be a 4-4-2 to match Everton. Boruc Clyne Yoshida Jos Shaw Puncheon Cork Schneiderlin Guly Rodriguez Lambert It's hard to disagree with that. This is a 442 game, a bit like Stoke away. We need to take the game to them. Feeling good about this one. 3-1 to us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 17 January, 2013 Share Posted 17 January, 2013 Wouldn't surprise me to see our captain involved. we will certainly have a captain involved yes. Whether that will be Ricky or Morgan I wouldn't hazard a guess. Certainly won't be Lallana. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
for_heaven's_Saint Posted 17 January, 2013 Share Posted 17 January, 2013 Wouldn't surprise me to see our captain involved. He is an Everton fan after all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the stain Posted 17 January, 2013 Share Posted 17 January, 2013 I've said it before, but I reckon we should have a captain on the bench, where they can see everything that's going on and then rally the troops from the technical area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 17 January, 2013 Share Posted 17 January, 2013 we will certainly have a captain involved yes. Whether that will be Ricky or Morgan I wouldn't hazard a guess. Certainly won't be Lallana. Fine if you're going to be a boring pedant. It wouldn't surprise me to see Adam Lallana involved on Monday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 17 January, 2013 Share Posted 17 January, 2013 Reckon gaston will be featured in the build up on sky Been doing media work that is like a sky build up style interview He has got a council estate hair cut. Welcome to Southampton Defo supercuts. I recognise their work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Wayman Posted 17 January, 2013 Share Posted 17 January, 2013 After recent performances it is easy to believe we should get something from this game but Everton are a tough and resilient side and a bit like us of late only better at it. If they still have Fellini on Monday he'll be a handful for whoever starts at CB. It could be dour and end 0-0 but one bit of luck and goal may be enough and it could fall either way. So 0-0 but my worry beads suggest 0-1. They'll be tough to beat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Wayman Posted 17 January, 2013 Share Posted 17 January, 2013 Probably makes more sense to be pro-active than reactive in professional football. If you've signed a new CB who is coming to compete with your two first choice centre backs then you'd assume, providing his fitness levels are fine, that he'd be picked over your current third choice. Not as easy as you make it sound. It will take a few weeks in training to get that vital understanding at the back between any newcomer and our regulars which has taken most of this season to sort out. Holding the lines has been key and Forren won't be ready to assume a pivotal role until he has been conditioned in our way of playing. He'll be on the bench if Jose is still nursing his hangover - sorry, knee injury - otherwise will have to sit and watch and learn. CB's are rarely match winners but can be game losers and as Nigel says so often but less so at the moment, we'll control the controllables but Forren is unknown and therefore uncontrollable at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 17 January, 2013 Share Posted 17 January, 2013 Sorry to say but we are due a downer. Saints 0 Everton 4 and Saints crashing down to reality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 17 January, 2013 Share Posted 17 January, 2013 Sorry to say but we are due a downer. Saints 0 Everton 4 and Saints crashing down to reality. Sweet. Thats that out the way then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THEVMAN Posted 17 January, 2013 Share Posted 17 January, 2013 Fine if you're going to be a boring pedant. It wouldn't surprise me to see Adam Lallana involved on Monday. Too early doors im afraid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 17 January, 2013 Share Posted 17 January, 2013 Too early doors im afraid. Booo. Hisss.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 17 January, 2013 Share Posted 17 January, 2013 Too early doors im afraid. Ahh fair enough, was only a guess. I expect the 10 day gap between Everton and United will do him the world of good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicestersaint Posted 17 January, 2013 Share Posted 17 January, 2013 Guly has been our best player last 2 months Huh?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicestersaint Posted 17 January, 2013 Share Posted 17 January, 2013 Sorry to say but we are due a downer. Saints 0 Everton 4 and Saints crashing down to reality. Excellent prediction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rasiak-9- Posted 17 January, 2013 Share Posted 17 January, 2013 Sorry to say but we are due a downer. Saints 0 Everton 4 and Saints crashing down to reality. 3/10. You've had a shocker this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rasiak-9- Posted 17 January, 2013 Share Posted 17 January, 2013 Make no mistake though, this game will be very very tough, especially if they take the lead. Everton aren't particularly special but they are f*cking solid and could well 'Sunderland us'. I'd be happy with a draw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 17 January, 2013 Share Posted 17 January, 2013 Too early doors im afraid. Hang on a cotton pickin' minute....Did that mad fella Adkins send you here to post misleading info in order to put Moyles off the scent? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 17 January, 2013 Share Posted 17 January, 2013 Another point closer to survival. That'll do for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 17 January, 2013 Share Posted 17 January, 2013 Another point closer to survival. That'll do for me. A point a game from here on in might just be enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 17 January, 2013 Share Posted 17 January, 2013 Fine if you're going to be a boring pedant. It wouldn't surprise me to see Adam Lallana involved on Monday. Can I be the first to say that when he does come back itll be like having a new signing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintSteve Posted 17 January, 2013 Share Posted 17 January, 2013 **** happens, we go and win the next games. In this league, we don't need to win them all. 18 points from 16 games will sit us nicely on 40 points and it's very much achievable. Even if it comes down to the last day, our final game is a very winnable home tie against Stoke, so no need to get the noose out early! Back to Everton. For me, same team that started last night, but with Gaston in for Davis for a more expansive outlook from the start. Lambert coming off the bench was really effective last night as it was on the opening day and it's something I'd like to see ss do more often. I think you are just a wind up merchant.. Lamber ton the bench.. u really don't understand football do you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted 17 January, 2013 Share Posted 17 January, 2013 We will lose this one - Everton are our bogey team now. 1-3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 17 January, 2013 Share Posted 17 January, 2013 We will lose this one - Everton are our bogey team now. 1-3 Is that a joke? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 17 January, 2013 Share Posted 17 January, 2013 (edited) http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/21063979 Southampton's draw against Chelsea after being 2-0 down was an outstanding result and they have moved on from where they were at the start of the season, which was a team who you felt were sometimes a little in awe of their opponents. That is through a combination of gaining some experience in the Premier League, some better results and gaining more and more confidence. The Saints are unbeaten in five league games and they now know that, on a good day, they can be a threat. I am so pleased for their manager Nigel Adkins because earlier in the season I think he was only a couple of defeats away from the sack. I am glad they stuck with him, and he is getting it right. But they are up against an Everton team that just does not lose many games. Yes, they were held by Swansea last weekend, but it was another "winning" draw, where they were the better team but just lacked a bit of cuteness in that final third. Everton are a team who fight and snarl for the points when they have to. Southampton need to be even more competitive than them to beat them, which will be extremely difficult. Lawro's prediction: 0-2 Edited 17 January, 2013 by trousers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
There when Franny scored Posted 18 January, 2013 Share Posted 18 January, 2013 Game in doubt? http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/371570/Saints-bubble-is-burst-by-freeze/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Globetrotter Posted 18 January, 2013 Share Posted 18 January, 2013 I've done a little Q&A piece for a Bluenose mate of mine who runs a fansite - feel free to give any feedback (good or bad) here or on the Comments part, Gary's always after comments on there http://www.thegwladysstreetpreacher.com/2013/01/17/the-opposition-view-southampton/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eurosaint Posted 18 January, 2013 Share Posted 18 January, 2013 I've done a little Q&A piece for a Bluenose mate of mine who runs a fansite - feel free to give any feedback (good or bad) here or on the Comments part, Gary's always after comments on there http://www.thegwladysstreetpreacher.com/2013/01/17/the-opposition-view-southampton/ Excellent piece Globes, unbiased and articulate, you should do it more often ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Posted 18 January, 2013 Share Posted 18 January, 2013 Game in doubt? http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/371570/Saints-bubble-is-burst-by-freeze/ It's only Friday and no snow after today! Will be on! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 18 January, 2013 Share Posted 18 January, 2013 Adam Blackmore @bigadamsport #saintsfc are still holding their pre-match presser this afternoon despite snow chaos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucks Saint Posted 18 January, 2013 Share Posted 18 January, 2013 http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/21063979 Excellent. Thanks Lawro, Wrong again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UpweySaint Posted 18 January, 2013 Share Posted 18 January, 2013 If people thought Chelsea's reaction to Rafa was hostile they will be in for a shock! I'm all for getting behind the players but Monday i'm pretty sure the sentiment will be clear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 18 January, 2013 Share Posted 18 January, 2013 Get your wallets out and empty it all on an Everton win. If I was one of our players I'd be gutted and not the least bit focussed on this game now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 18 January, 2013 Share Posted 18 January, 2013 Get your wallets out and empty it all on an Everton win. If I was one of our players I'd be gutted and not the least bit focussed on this game now. And the flak that the crowd will inevitably give Cortese and the new manager will add to the 'problem'.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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