Saint in Paradise Posted 15 January, 2013 Share Posted 15 January, 2013 http://travel.msn.co.nz/travelnews/8593856/travellers-worried-by-boeing-glitches People should be very concerned about the batteries it has on board more than fuel leaks or the carbon fibre used in the fusleage. The same type of batteries as in lap-tops etc because if they burst in flame they are extremely difficult to control,( some say impossible ) - see u-tube videos. In the 787 they are placed where they will cause major problems if they catch fire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swannymere Posted 16 January, 2013 Share Posted 16 January, 2013 I very much doubt that Boeing would build an airliner and put anything that might obviously cause problems in a position to cause danger to the aircraft. It's probably just teething troubles which are fairly normal for most aircraft in the first few years of service. On the other hand it could be a conspiracy to kill people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 16 January, 2013 Share Posted 16 January, 2013 (edited) It's normal for a new aircraft to have a few glitches. The 787 is more revolutionary in its design and construction than most previous Boeings so there will perhaps be a few more that with others. As long as this doesn't end up falling out the sky, like the Comet, the DC-10 and the Electra I'm sure they will sort it out. Airbus have had similar issues with the A380. Cracks in the wing structure and an engine demolishing itself in flight were perhaps a bit more dramatic than normal. Edit: Speak of the Devil.... http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/01/16/boeing-ana-idUST9N09U05C20130116 Edited 16 January, 2013 by Lighthouse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint in Paradise Posted 16 January, 2013 Author Share Posted 16 January, 2013 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-21038128 A Boeing 787 aircraft operated by All Nippon Airways (ANA) has made an emergency landing at Takamatsu airport after a battery malfunction. Also read this thread? http://www.pprune.org/rumours-news/504572-another-787-electrical-smoke-incident-ground.html Usually I am in the "If it ain't Boeing I ain't going" camp but not so keen on the 787 at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 16 January, 2013 Share Posted 16 January, 2013 Usually I am in the "If it ain't Boeing I ain't going" camp but not so keen on the 787 at the moment. You're still overwhelmingly more likely to die during the drive to the airport than on a plane (and even that is remote). http://www.medicine.ox.ac.uk/bandolier/booth/risk/transporttrav.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint in Paradise Posted 16 January, 2013 Author Share Posted 16 January, 2013 And there is more:- Well these airlines appear a bit concerned, think of the money they will lose and maybe future passengers. Airlines do not take this action lightly. TOKYO (AP) -- Japan's transport ministry says Boeing 787 planes are being grounded for safety checks in the latest blow for the new passenger jet. The ministry said Wednesday it got notices from ANA, which operates 17 of the jets, and Japan Airlines which has 7, that all their 787 aircraft will not be flying. http://nz.totaltravel.yahoo.com/news-opinions/news/a/-/15851384/boeing-787-jets-in-japan-grounded/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 16 January, 2013 Share Posted 16 January, 2013 And there is more:- Well these airlines appear a bit concerned, think of the money they will lose and maybe future passengers. Airlines do not take this action lightly. TOKYO (AP) -- Japan's transport ministry says Boeing 787 planes are being grounded for safety checks in the latest blow for the new passenger jet. The ministry said Wednesday it got notices from ANA, which operates 17 of the jets, and Japan Airlines which has 7, that all their 787 aircraft will not be flying. http://nz.totaltravel.yahoo.com/news-opinions/news/a/-/15851384/boeing-787-jets-in-japan-grounded/ Don't forget that all the A380's were grounded after the Qantas Engine issue. Took Emirates a couple of weeks to run them all through testing. Equally, when they first came into service EK's big buses kept breaking down - the loos stopped working - not fun on a 13 hour haul. They find out it was a problem with the Showers in First Class - lol First release teething troubles. FF will be along shortly to explain why his beloved BA never buy first release of any planes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hutch Posted 16 January, 2013 Share Posted 16 January, 2013 http://travel.msn.co.nz/travelnews/8593856/travellers-worried-by-boeing-glitches People should be very concerned about the batteries it has on board more than fuel leaks or the carbon fibre used in the fusleage. The same type of batteries as in lap-tops etc because if they burst in flame they are extremely difficult to control,( some say impossible ) - see u-tube videos. In the 787 they are placed where they will cause major problems if they catch fire. Why don't they just do away with the batteries altogether and fit them with proper petrol engines? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 16 January, 2013 Share Posted 16 January, 2013 (edited) Why don't they just do away with the batteries altogether and fit them with proper petrol engines? Because the entire control system is fly-by wire (electrical). If the engines cut out, how would the pilot control the plane for a gliding landing ? Imo Boeing have rushed the 787 programme because they were seriously losing ground to Airbus. Lets not forget they only won the massive USAF next-gen tanker contract because the US Government shifted the goalposts when Boeing started whining. Edited 16 January, 2013 by alpine_saint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 16 January, 2013 Share Posted 16 January, 2013 I'm travelling to Mexico in June for my belated honeymoon, and there and back we're supposed to be flying on Thomson's Dreamliner. I expect the issues to be sorted out there, but while I'm looking forward to flying on it, I'd be happy flying on a different plan if there were still doubts. I'm not the greatest of flyers, I must admit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 16 January, 2013 Share Posted 16 January, 2013 I'm surprised at Boeing, they were usually very reticent about using unproven by others technology. That's why although used in military aircraft Boeing resisted fly by wire in passenger aircraft until the B777. Lithium batteries were a banned cargo because of the fire risk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 16 January, 2013 Share Posted 16 January, 2013 Hmm, Lithium batteries are notorious: http://tingilinde.typepad.com/starstuff/2006/09/lithium_batteri.html One third the energy density of dynamite! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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