How much control should the chairman have over signings?

[timayes]

I don't have anything to do with it, and nor will I likely have anything to do with it, ever. It would not surprise if the Chairman, LR, NA and a select few others have a sit down, and a chat over various medium, sent in by the previously mentioned expansive scouting network, players agents, and who knows maybe even some ultra keen parents. But I would suggest that they all have a hand in it at some point - and I really don't think that it matters.

 

NC - "Nigel, I am going to spend £12m on a player for your team, he was at the olympics, looked pretty good, is young and best of all is better than most of what we've got"

NA - "Is it going to cost me anything?"

NC - "No, I have a (alledged) trust fund, that is paying / I am getting a loan on future tv money* (del as app."

NA - "OK"

[Bearsy]

Of the current first team I reckon Fonte, Morgan, Lallana, Puncheon and Lambert was all forced on Adkins. According to my information he was not even consulted bout these signings!

[Dig Dig]

I didn't say there was anything wrong with our set up. Just that in my opinion the manager should always be the one that decides on which players to sign. I doubt any player would be signed if Adkins didn't want them. If a chairman is bringing in players against his wishes I think then there is a problem.

 

I think you are the one with an agenda.

 

I think everyone would agree that would be a problem if it were the case but it isn't so it's silly to concern yourself with hypotheticals.

[Dig Dig]

Of the current first team I reckon Fonte, Morgan, Lallana, Puncheon and Lambert was all forced on Adkins. According to my information he was not even consulted bout these signings!

 

I can confirm that Bearsy is ITK on this

[aintforever]

Nope but I am saying he doesnt get full reign, he doesnt hold the purse strings, and yes they did sell Ronaldo, of course that was SAFs decision.

 

I expect the fact they have had a constant asian player in the squad for the last X years ? That'll be entirely SAFs decision too

 

But nothing takes away the point I made earlier which is that Nige has a long way to go before its anywhere near the same situation

 

Ronaldo going wasn't even Man Utd's decision, it was Ronaldo's. And I doubt any of the Asian players would have been signed against SAF's wishes.

 

Adkin's obviously is not in the same league as Fergie but the principle is the same. You employ a manager to manage, that is his talent, that's why he is there. If you don't trust his judgement on players why hire him?

[Smirking_Saint]

I think everyone would agree that would be a problem if it were the case but it isn't so it's silly to concern yourself with hypotheticals.

 

This obviously isnt the case though, everyone knows Adkins is here as a puppet, NC picks the team, the tactics and buys all the players. He also asked LR to draw a crayon drawing of our kit to use this year.

 

He also tells Nige when to walk up and down the line, what subs to make and gives him a script for the press.

[Dig Dig]

This obviously isnt the case though, everyone knows Adkins is here as a puppet, NC picks the team, the tactics and buys all the players. He also asked LR to draw a crayon drawing of our kit to use this year.

 

He also tells Nige when to walk up and down the line, what subs to make and gives him a script for the press.

 

I'm sure Nigel himself is delighted with the set up as well. All the work and effort he's put into getting to where he is, only to be undermined and told what to do by a swiss-italian banker. It's what he's always dreamed of and you can see how happy he is with the set up.

[IOWSaintDaz]

Seeing as he pays the wages and keeps the club sweet with the Liebherrs then he is entitled to have a say, anyone who says otherwise can either accept it or p*ss off and find another club to support, maybe that club down the road who have no money cos thats where we'd be without good old Nic right now ok

[aintforever]

I think everyone would agree that would be a problem if it were the case but it isn't so it's silly to concern yourself with hypotheticals.

 

I'm not concerned, just speculation on what the opening poster said.

 

Blimey, some of you lot are a bit too touchy about the Don. Mention 'transfer committee' and you are wetting the bed all over the place. Look at smirkin's post above. lol.

[Smirking_Saint]

Ronaldo going wasn't even Man Utd's decision, it was Ronaldo's. And I doubt any of the Asian players would have been signed against SAF's wishes.

 

Adkin's obviously is not in the same league as Fergie but the principle is the same. You employ a manager to manage, that is his talent, that's why he is there. If you don't trust his judgement on players why hire him?

 

There really is no point taking this any further seeing as nothing I am saying is registering at any form of intellectual level.

 

So, SAF wouldnt have been asked to incorperate asians into the team from a marketing point of view ?

 

Adkins should be given SOLE responibility, a la Hughes at QPR after such visionary signings such as Forte ? And also would possibly cause a situation within which if Adkins left or was sacked it would lack continuity for the new man ?

 

That it is better to rely on one mans opinion and knowledge over other people equally qualified that could share opinions and overall knowledge of players not necessarily known to the one man army that is Adkins ?

 

Obviously Adkins should also do the financial side ?

 

Yup, your right, your way is best, why the hell do we need a chairman anyway ?

 

You still have not told me who is whose signings either

[Dig Dig]

I'm not concerned, just speculation on what the opening poster said.

 

Blimey, some of you lot are a bit too touchy about the Don. Mention 'transfer committee' and you are wetting the bed all over the place. Look at smirkin's post above. lol.

 

No, mention 'transfer committee' and most people who aren't peddling an agenda don't mind.

[Smirking_Saint]

I'm not concerned, just speculation on what the opening poster said.

 

Blimey, some of you lot are a bit too touchy about the Don. Mention 'transfer committee' and you are wetting the bed all over the place. Look at smirkin's post above. lol.

 

Inthink its more to do with the idiocracy that is the fact we have a transfer committee means Adkins obviously has zero control of who to sign and Cortese is Chairman/head scout

 

Lol

[aintforever]

There really is no point taking this any further seeing as nothing I am saying is registering at any form of intellectual level.

 

So, SAF wouldnt have been asked to incorperate asians into the team from a marketing point of view ?

 

Adkins should be given SOLE responibility, a la Hughes at QPR after such visionary signings such as Forte ? And also would possibly cause a situation within which if Adkins left or was sacked it would lack continuity for the new man ?

 

That it is better to rely on one mans opinion and knowledge over other people equally qualified that could share opinions and overall knowledge of players not necessarily known to the one man army that is Adkins ?

 

Obviously Adkins should also do the financial side ?

 

Yup, your right, your way is best, why the hell do we need a chairman anyway ?

 

You still have not told me who is whose signings either

 

No one know's who is behind which signings, I thought that was obvious.

 

You clearly don't understand my point. But that is not surprising.

[IOWSaintDaz]

 

Trust this man to do the right thing, we got 2 promotions in a row with this guy at the helm end of

[Smirking_Saint]

No one know's who is behind which signings, I thought that was obvious.

 

You clearly don't understand my point. But that is not surprising.

 

Well argued Sir

 

Nice to see you have the strength of your convictions

[Dig Dig]

No one know's who is behind which signings, I thought that was obvious.

 

You clearly don't understand my point. But that is not surprising.

 

Adkins, Cortese, Reed, Head Scout and the scouting network are behind our signings collectively.

 

The've done a very good job as well over the last 3 years.

[aintforever]

Adkins, Cortese, Reed, Head Scout and the scouting network are behind our signings collectively.

 

The've done a very good job as well over the last 3 years.

 

Whatever the set up is it has worked so far which is good. I think the money in the summer could probably have been more wisely spent though.

 

Also when you are being bankrolled by a billionaire through the lower leagues there is more scope for errors.

[david in sweden]

As long as he allows the manager freedom to do his role, isn't it best that the chairman is active in player transfers ?

 

......or looking at it another way........the man's got the cheque book, not much more to say really.

[Bucks Saint]

I don't think either NC or NA should be involved. We need a new sub committee to identify and complete all new signings.

 

The members of the committee must be Graham Hiley and David Luker