They paid £62 over there, thank them

[Graffito]

Ticket and transport it's more or less the same price for me to go from my home in north London to Wigan as it is to go down the road to Chelsea. Cheaper food and drink too.

[Sour Mash]

People are living an idealistic cuckoo land if they fans using collective action and boycotting games will lead to change.

That said, I'm not totally pessimistic about the possibility of change - just think it will come from other sources -the media, organised supporters groups and a few national politicians picking up this agenda.

In other words, better to focus energy through these more 'top-down' channels. If you look at the history of successful social movements over the centuries, it has always been the way.

I think its more idealistic cuckoo land to think change will come from the top. It's not a 'fans collective' that is being suggested, but turning the club's own use of market forces back against them. Whether enough people will do that or not is another matter.

[Sour Mash]

The lino's now been "stood down" by the body that runs ref's .

 

 

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2013/jan/15/linesman-manchester-city-arsenal

Good. Hopefully it'll stop him jumping on a moral bandwagon again.

[Saint in Paradise]

The players could well think that he meant "Only 62" lets face it on their money 62 is stuff all.

[shurlock]

I think its more idealistic cuckoo land to think change will come from the top. It's not a 'fans collective' that is being suggested, but turning the club's own use of market forces back against them. Whether enough people will do that or not is another matter.

 

Agree that it would have an impact -just dont think it will happen and ultimately don't think it needs to happen.

IMO even simply ensuring that lobbying efforts by different supporter groups are coordinated -groups whose membership is tiny relative to the size of the football attending public- would make a much bigger difference IMO -and require much less ambition.

That's what I mean by 'top-down' - that and some national exposure from a few sympathetic people in positions of influence.

[Sour Mash]

Agree that it would have an impact -just dont think it will happen and ultimately don't think it needs to happen.

IMO even simply ensuring that lobbying efforts by different supporter groups are coordinated -groups whose membership is tiny relative to the size of the football attending public- would make a much bigger difference IMO -and require much less ambition.

That's what I mean by 'top-down' - that and some national exposure from a few sympathetic people in positions of influence.

Fair enough, just can't see football clubs changing their prices significantly as a result of any kind of lobbying. It would probably get a couple of token gesture price freezes until the bandwagon moved onto something else and the prices went back to market-rate.