Would Di Matteo be welcomed if appointed

[Miltonroader07]

I think that if we lose at Villa the "writing is on the wall" for NA.............. I am not anti NA, but; ask the harsh questions!!

 

Would Roberto keep us in the Prem and would he get the fans support, I am not sure!!

 

Discuss please??

[Saint_clark]

Of course he'd get the fans support. I for one wouldn't be happy if Adkins was sacked though.

I think if it was going to happen it would have happened after the WBA game.

[toe_punt]

Adkins, sorry "Atkins" should be allowed the season no matter what.

 

After all, just like the players he is experiencing the premier league for the first time, and learning pains should be expected.

[Didcot Saint]

Adkins is a brilliant young manager who can bring Saints great success. Why bring in Di Matteo, he got sacked by West Brom ffs and got lucky winning the European Cup.

[pap]

Actually a fair enough hypothetical question.

 

If there is any managerial movement, then it's more likely to happen this month than next. Personally, I want to see us beat Villa tomorrow and start climbing the table.

 

RDM is a weird one. The cup double looks amazing on the CV, but AVB was responsible for much of that and well, he was managing Chelski. Not exactly short of decent players. I think most would be cautiously optimistic.

[Spudders]

I'd throw my season ticket into the car park at St Mary's and get the Echo to do a story on me and how outraged I am.

 

 

(Then, next season I'd wear a fake moustache to games so people didn't know that I was me)

[Miltonroader07]

Spud, your opinon is respected

 

Anyway , moving on.............. what do we think ???

[pap]

I'd throw my season ticket into the car park at St Mary's and get the Echo to do a story on me and how outraged I am.

 

 

(Then, next season I'd wear a fake moustache to games so people didn't know that I was me)

 

Been done. Perhaps have a piddle in Cortese's petrol tank instead?

[pangy]

If NA was getting the chop he would of by now,NC would be a fool to wait till halfway through the Jan market to try and bring in a new manager who would have no time in trying to bring in new faces that he wanted

[pap]

If NA was getting the chop he would of by now,NC would be a fool to wait till halfway through the Jan market to try and bring in a new manager who would have no time in trying to bring in new faces that he wanted

 

If you have to ship a manager mid-season, January is the time to do it.

 

Besides, haven't we got a transfer committee?

[Didcot Saint]

I personally do not think RDM would keep us up no. The reason is no matter how people rate NA he has created a superb team spirit even though we may not have PL quality yet, I believe we will stay up and Nige will get better as a manager. We are slowly improving as the manager learns also. To change now would be suicidal imo

[Restark19]

I personally do not think RDM would keep us up no. The reason is no matter how people rate NA he has created a superb team spirit even though we may not have PL quality yet, I believe we will stay up and Nige will get better as a manager. We are slowly improving as the manager learns also. To change now would be suicidal imo

 

agree with this completely

[Miltonroader07]

agree with this completely

 

So will we end up as a Yo Yo good Championship Team

[teacher]

I makes me sick to think that some people on here are preempting the sacking of Adkins. This is the most ridiculous thread on the forum, please close this mods!

 

Get behind Adkins FFS!

[Dellman]

Waste of space discussing the next manager when we've got one and a very good one, it's the sort of chatter that undermines stability and gets the press talking about NA getting the sack. who gains?

[Avenue Saint]

Waste of space discussing the next manager when we've got one and a very good one, it's the sort of chatter that undermines stability and gets the press talking about NA getting the sack. who gains?

 

Exactly

[pap]

Waste of space discussing the next manager when we've got one and a very good one, it's the sort of chatter that undermines stability and gets the press talking about NA getting the sack. who gains?

 

Yeah, as soon as Cortese sees this Nige will be up crap creek. Miltonroader07's word is law.

[St Marco]

If Adkins got sacked then I would welcome him. But I would rather stick with Adkins even if we do lose at Villa. I think continuity is the key for us this season. If we go down then fine sack him.

 

But if we do lose he will be under huge pressure and if he is given the sack I don't think anyone would be surprised. Three wins in three months is not a good record. Winning only three games out of eleven at home will always put you under pressure. Especially if you lose to sides around you i.e Sunderland and Wigan. Our away record is awful too with only one win.

 

I hope we keep him. Especially if the alternative is Di Matteo. But you can't have a 50% loss ratio and expect to keep your job forever.

[Turkish]

If you back the chairman than yes, he will be welcome. There will be no chants of 'one Nigel Adkins' everyone will be fully behind the new man and trust the chairmans decision. I for one will certainly be.

[View From The Top]

I makes me sick to think that some people on here are preempting the sacking of Adkins. This is the most ridiculous thread on the forum, please close this mods!

 

Get behind Adkins FFS!

 

Why is it?

 

We may all love NA but let's not pretend that NC won't bin him in a heartbeat and I also wouldn't be shocked, that if we lost to Villa, RdM replaced NA on Monday.

 

You may want to stick your fingers in your ears and pretend everything is rosey but it doesn't make it so.

[Turkish]

Waste of space discussing the next manager when we've got one and a very good one, it's the sort of chatter that undermines stability and gets the press talking about NA getting the sack. who gains?

 

No because the current drama and talk of Adkins being sacked which is spreading across this forum has all been created by one article in the mail which appears to have little substance. And people claim they aren't influenced by what's in the papers and don't care what they say.

[Barry Sanchez]

Why is it?

 

We may all love NA but let's not pretend that NC won't bin him in a heartbeat and I also wouldn't be shocked, that if we lost to Villa, RdM replaced NA on Monday.

 

You may want to stick your fingers in your ears and pretend everything is rosey but it doesn't make it so.

 

 

Very true, I agree with this entirely.

[Window Cleaner]

I think that if we lose at Villa the "writing is on the wall" for NA.............. I am not anti NA, but; ask the harsh questions!!

 

Would Roberto keep us in the Prem and would he get the fans support, I am not sure!!

 

Discuss please??

 

Is this an official poll on behalf of the "transfer and sacking committee" ?

[Greenridge]

Where does the RdM connection come from linking him to Saints?

[Window Cleaner]

Where does the RdM connection come from linking him to Saints?

 

out of work Italian manager...Italo-Swiss chairman? It was widely reported last summer that RDM was in line to take over at Saints in the off season but he got the Chelsea job.

[View From The Top]

out of work Italian manager...Italo-Swiss chairman? It was widely reported last summer that RDM was in line to take over at Saints in the off season but he got the Chelsea job.

 

They've known each other since childhood apparently.

[Window Cleaner]

They've known each other since childhood apparently.

 

I couldn't find any justification for that statement when it was put about a couple of months back.

 

They may well be friends though

Edited 11 January, 2013 by Window Cleaner

[pingwing]

As much as a like Di Matteo as a person (comes across as a nice guy) his big achievements are the champions league win and doing a decent job with MK Dons and WBA. Adkins has several promotions under his belt and much more team building so I won't be impressed if :the inevitable happens" and we land Di Matteo till we get results (a lot too).

 

Till then theres only one Nigel Adkins!

[Shroppie]

Adkins is a brilliant young manager who can bring Saints great success. Why bring in Di Matteo, he got sacked by West Brom ffs and got lucky winning the European Cup.

 

This ^

[Turkish]

Where does the RdM connection come from linking him to Saints?

 

He and Cortese both come from Italy and they f*cking hate Pompey. Probably.

[NickG]

His prem experience with wba wasn't that impressive and was*sacked. This was with a newly promoted side, but one that had been prem season before.

 

NA has newly promoted side, but one that was league 1 season before.

 

Why would di M do better?

 

Remember just a few months ago likes of dell days and alpine demanded NA's sacking saying we would be adrift at the bottom by new year and he was not a good manager to improve us. This suggests otherwise;

 

http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?42219-Is-our-current-side-being-competitive-in-premier-league

 

Also Dell days moans about our expensive squad under performing. We are using a team half of whom were league 1 players.

 

The value of squad here;

 

http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/en/premier-league/startseite/wettbewerb_GB1.html

 

Suggests NA has us over performing for squad value.

 

The last two season prove NA is excellent manager.

 

Been watching saints for long time -if offered a swap with any manager, last one who I would even need to pause to think about would be Chris. NA has been head and shoulders above WGS in my opinion (apart from interviews!)

 

The point made that last two seasons don't count is just child like. Of course can't live on past glories for years but writing it off now? Grow up!

 

Those who go, almost universally, rate him highly, sing his name and want him here for duration.

 

You won't here one pundit, ex-pro, journalist doubting his ability.

 

One of most embarrassing things heard for years as saints fan was hearing a radio discussion with a fan slagging him off...to amazement of presenters, then fans from other clubs ringing in to say how good he is!

 

Even at our lowest (before QPR away?) Benali saying he has to stay for season.

 

Been far too many wet beds thus season.

 

Enjoy the journey!!

[Leicestersaint]

stick with Nigel!

[Thedelldays]

His prem experience with wba wasn't that impressive and was*sacked. This was with a newly promoted side, but one that had been prem season before.

 

NA has newly promoted side, but one that was league 1 season before.

 

Why would di M do better?

 

Remember just a few months ago likes of dell days and alpine demanded NA's sacking saying we would be adrift at the bottom by new year and he was not a good manager to improve us. This suggests otherwise;

 

http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?42219-Is-our-current-side-being-competitive-in-premier-league

 

Also Dell days moans about our expensive squad under performing. We are using a team half of whom were league 1 players.

 

The value of squad here;

 

http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/en/premier-league/startseite/wettbewerb_GB1.html

 

Suggests NA has us over performing for squad value.

 

The last two season prove NA is excellent manager.

 

Been watching saints for long time -if offered a swap with any manager, last one who I would even need to pause to think about would be Chris. NA has been head and shoulders above WGS in my opinion (apart from interviews!)

 

The point made that last two seasons don't count is just child like. Of course can't live on past glories for years but writing it off now? Grow up!

 

Those who go, almost universally, rate him highly, sing his name and want him here for duration.

 

You won't here one pundit, ex-pro, journalist doubting his ability.

 

One of most embarrassing things heard for years as saints fan was hearing a radio discussion with a fan slagging him off...to amazement of presenters, then fans from other clubs ringing in to say how good he is!

 

Even at our lowest (before QPR away?) Benali saying he has to stay for season.

 

Been far too many wet beds thus season.

 

Enjoy the journey!!

 

Me being slightly wrong is hardly an argument to keep a manager or not

 

If we go down, NA would have failed and will get sacked no doubt. Even after the money spent before new additions in jan.

 

Going to be interesting 2nd half of the season

 

A defeat tomorrow and we are in deep shyt IMO

[Miltonroader07]

AGGREEEEDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

 

But the question needs discussing

[krissyboy31]

He and Cortese both come from Italy and they f*cking hate Pompey. Probably.

 

More probably that he's a Swiss Italian that played for Zurich.

[timayes]

Who should we replace Lallana with if he goes to play for Spurs when they sell Bale?

 

Would you like Fawaz Almumen to replace Jaimie Longmuir in the ticket office, should he be sacked, and if he did would you boo him?

 

Do you know Dave form the docks, apparently he is in for Joe the Kingsland stewards job if another person stands through the second half - thoughts please

 

Stupid heresay thread.

[NickG]

Me being slightly wrong is hardly an argument to keep a manager or not

 

If we go down, NA would have failed and will get sacked no doubt. Even after the money spent before new additions in jan.

 

Going to be interesting 2nd half of the season

 

A defeat tomorrow and we are in deep shyt IMO

 

Every season you deem games 'must win' get dramatic, we lose and still achieve what we need.

 

Point I was making in showing you were way out in your expectations for us under NA, is that the same people are writing him off now. You were wrong, rather than learning and looking at the improvement from when you said he was out of his depth...about here? 11/11/12

 

http://www.statto.com/football/stats/england/premier-league/2012-2013/custom-table

 

You are still saying he can't do it.

 

Did you read links? Our cheap over performing squad?

[Miltonroader07]

Who should we replace Lallana with if he goes to play for Spurs when they sell Bale?

 

Would you like Fawaz Almumen to replace Jaimie Longmuir in the ticket office, should he be sacked, and if he did would you boo him?

 

Do you know Dave form the docks, apparently he is in for Joe the Kingsland stewards job if another person stands through the second half - thoughts please

 

Stupid heresay thread.

 

Registerered Users should know their place..... no dumb comments

[BridgnorthSaint]

Adkins, sorry "Atkins" should be allowed the season no matter what.

 

After all, just like the players he is experiencing the premier league for the first time, and learning pains should be expected.

 

I think that above all we need consistency - Nigel Adkins has in the main done a great job. He is commited and passionate however there are bound to be errors along the way.

 

In any case who says the writing is on the wall and why would Robbie Di Matteo be any better, he has never shown any sucess struggling at the foot of teh table with a newly promoted team

[TheCholulaKid]

His prem experience with wba wasn't that impressive and was*sacked. This was with a newly promoted side, but one that had been prem season before.

 

NA has newly promoted side, but one that was league 1 season before.

 

Why would di M do better?

 

Remember just a few months ago likes of dell days and alpine demanded NA's sacking saying we would be adrift at the bottom by new year and he was not a good manager to improve us. This suggests otherwise;

 

http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?42219-Is-our-current-side-being-competitive-in-premier-league

 

Also Dell days moans about our expensive squad under performing. We are using a team half of whom were league 1 players.

 

The value of squad here;

 

http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/en/premier-league/startseite/wettbewerb_GB1.html

 

Suggests NA has us over performing for squad value.

 

The last two season prove NA is excellent manager.

 

Been watching saints for long time -if offered a swap with any manager, last one who I would even need to pause to think about would be Chris. NA has been head and shoulders above WGS in my opinion (apart from interviews!)

 

The point made that last two seasons don't count is just child like. Of course can't live on past glories for years but writing it off now? Grow up!

 

Those who go, almost universally, rate him highly, sing his name and want him here for duration.

 

You won't here one pundit, ex-pro, journalist doubting his ability.

 

One of most embarrassing things heard for years as saints fan was hearing a radio discussion with a fan slagging him off...to amazement of presenters, then fans from other clubs ringing in to say how good he is!

 

Even at our lowest (before QPR away?) Benali saying he has to stay for season.

 

Been far too many wet beds thus season.

 

Enjoy the journey!!

 

Most definitely this.

[aintforever]

I would stick with Adkins, if we go down he's the best man to get us up again.

 

Getting relegated doesn't make Adkins a bad manager, just means we got promoted too early and the squad just wasn't good enough.

[Turkish]

His prem experience with wba wasn't that impressive and was*sacked. This was with a newly promoted side, but one that had been prem season before.

 

NA has newly promoted side, but one that was league 1 season before.

 

Why would di M do better?

 

Remember just a few months ago likes of dell days and alpine demanded NA's sacking saying we would be adrift at the bottom by new year and he was not a good manager to improve us. This suggests otherwise;

 

http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?42219-Is-our-current-side-being-competitive-in-premier-league

Also Dell days moans about our expensive squad under performing. We are using a team half of whom were league 1 players.

 

The value of squad here;

 

http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/en/premier-league/startseite/wettbewerb_GB1.html

 

Suggests NA has us over performing for squad value.

 

The last two season prove NA is excellent manager.

 

Been watching saints for long time -if offered a swap with any manager, last one who I would even need to pause to think about would be Chris. NA has been head and shoulders above WGS in my opinion (apart from interviews!)

 

The point made that last two seasons don't count is just child like. Of course can't live on past glories for years but writing it off now? Grow up!

 

Those who go, almost universally, rate him highly, sing his name and want him here for duration.

 

You won't here one pundit, ex-pro, journalist doubting his ability.

 

One of most embarrassing things heard for years as saints fan was hearing a radio discussion with a fan slagging him off...to amazement of presenters, then fans from other clubs ringing in to say how good he is!

 

Even at our lowest (before QPR away?) Benali saying he has to stay for season.

 

Been far too many wet beds thus season.

 

Enjoy the journey!!

 

I do love those who try and spin how half of our team are league one players. Conviniently forgetting that whilst in L1 and the Championship quite a different picture was painted. Whilst in league one and the championship I recall some posters claiming Schiniderlin was putting in 'world class performances'. That Davis and Lambert should be in the England squad. That Lallana was the best player we'd and since Le Tisser. I recollect Fonte dropping down from the Championship, Pardew describing him and Lambert as players who can play in the premier league! This was lauded at the time. Moving onto the championship, Hooliveld was a great defender we were told. He must be, he's played in the champions league! And who could forget the golden claims that League one saints would beat England and that man for man our championship side was better than our cup final side in 03, possibly our best ever team!

 

Now all this seems to have changed. Now the reason our £30m worth of talent is in a relegation battle is because the rest of the team were L1 players only 18 months ago. The fact that they are should be England internationals, champions league players, world class performers and amongst the best players and teams we've ever had is forgotten. Now what can we expect from players that lost at Wallsall less than 2 years ago?

 

Keep going, keep spinning, it's very entertaining.

[SNSUN]

1) I would not be happy if we got rid of Adkins. I like the bloke, he's intelligent, positive, has us playing good football and is more than holding his own in a league alien to him.

2) I would not be happy with the appointment of Di Matteo. There are dozens of better managers than him - his CV looks good because he was an excellent midfielder, and because, as a manager, he's been in the right place at the right time.

3) If we do go down (which I still think is a highly likely possibility) then Adkins is the best choice to bring us back up. He's already done it once.

 

I think the only question marks remain over Adkins' transfer policy, but seeing all our Italian links recently makes me think they may be Cortese-influenced. I won't be anti-Di Matteo, per se, if we appoint him, but I may be more critical of his failings than I am with Adkins.

[Horley CTFC Saint]

I think that if we lose at Villa the "writing is on the wall" for NA.............. I am not anti NA, but; ask the harsh questions!!

 

Would Roberto keep us in the Prem and would he get the fans support, I am not sure!!

 

Discuss please??

I'd prefer Appy

[Avenue Saint]

His prem experience with wba wasn't that impressive and was*sacked. This was with a newly promoted side, but one that had been prem season before.

 

NA has newly promoted side, but one that was league 1 season before.

 

Why would di M do better?

 

Remember just a few months ago likes of dell days and alpine demanded NA's sacking saying we would be adrift at the bottom by new year and he was not a good manager to improve us. This suggests otherwise;

 

http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?42219-Is-our-current-side-being-competitive-in-premier-league

 

Also Dell days moans about our expensive squad under performing. We are using a team half of whom were league 1 players.

 

The value of squad here;

 

http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/en/premier-league/startseite/wettbewerb_GB1.html

 

Suggests NA has us over performing for squad value.

 

The last two season prove NA is excellent manager.

 

Been watching saints for long time -if offered a swap with any manager, last one who I would even need to pause to think about would be Chris. NA has been head and shoulders above WGS in my opinion (apart from interviews!)

 

The point made that last two seasons don't count is just child like. Of course can't live on past glories for years but writing it off now? Grow up!

 

Those who go, almost universally, rate him highly, sing his name and want him here for duration.

 

You won't here one pundit, ex-pro, journalist doubting his ability.

 

One of most embarrassing things heard for years as saints fan was hearing a radio discussion with a fan slagging him off...to amazement of presenters, then fans from other clubs ringing in to say how good he is!

 

Even at our lowest (before QPR away?) Benali saying he has to stay for season.

 

Been far too many wet beds thus season.

 

Enjoy the journey!!

 

Very good post

[NickG]

Find post when, as we played in league 1, I said any player was prem standard, or should play internationally, and you may a very small, weak point.....otherwise complete nonsense which I'm sure doesn't even convince yourself.

 

Do you really think you can take team playing in league 1 (for two seasons) put it in premiership a year later, replace less than half the team and expect a god given right to be in top half by investing few million in very talented youngsters?

 

those who think because players were rated at lower level (Portsmouth's level!) Fans meant they were good enough to be prem stars do make me laugh.

[Turkish]

Find post when, as we played in league 1, I said any player was prem standard, or should play internationally, and you may a very small, weak point.....otherwise complete nonsense which I'm sure doesn't even convince yourself.

 

Do you really think you can take team playing in league 1 (for two seasons) put it in premiership a year later, replace less than half the team and expect a god given right to be in top half by investing few million in very talented youngsters?

 

those who think because players were rated at lower level (Portsmouth's level!) Fans meant they were good enough to be prem stars do make me laugh.

 

So do you or don't you think Fonte, Lambert, Lallana, Schinderlin, Puncheon are premier league standard players or not?

 

And who said anything about it being top half?

[ottery st mary]

His prem experience with wba wasn't that impressive and was*sacked. This was with a newly promoted side, but one that had been prem season before.

 

NA has newly promoted side, but one that was league 1 season before.

 

Why would di M do better?

 

Remember just a few months ago likes of dell days and alpine demanded NA's sacking saying we would be adrift at the bottom by new year and he was not a good manager to improve us. This suggests otherwise;

 

http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?42219-Is-our-current-side-being-competitive-in-premier-league

 

Also Dell days moans about our expensive squad under performing. We are using a team half of whom were league 1 players.

 

The value of squad here;

 

http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/en/premier-league/startseite/wettbewerb_GB1.html

 

Suggests NA has us over performing for squad value.

 

The last two season prove NA is excellent manager.

 

Been watching saints for long time -if offered a swap with any manager, last one who I would even need to pause to think about would be Chris. NA has been head and shoulders above WGS in my opinion (apart from interviews!)

 

The point made that last two seasons don't count is just child like. Of course can't live on past glories for years but writing it off now? Grow up!

 

Those who go, almost universally, rate him highly, sing his name and want him here for duration.

 

You won't here one pundit, ex-pro, journalist doubting his ability.

 

One of most embarrassing things heard for years as saints fan was hearing a radio discussion with a fan slagging him off...to amazement of presenters, then fans from other clubs ringing in to say how good he is!

 

Even at our lowest (before QPR away?) Benali saying he has to stay for season.

 

Been far too many wet beds thus season.

 

Enjoy the journey!!

 

 

Well said.....

 

30,000 support their very good Manager....

 

One or two praaattts .......without a clue about football...talk shiiite:p:rolleyes:

[Mr X]

Waste of space discussing the next manager when we've got one and a very good one, it's the sort of chatter that undermines stability and gets the press talking about NA getting the sack. who gains?

 

you say we have a very a very good manager and that Is true at league one and championship level but it's to early to say wether we have a very good premiership manager! for what its worth I like Adkins

[CB Fry]

Find post when, as we played in league 1, I said any player was prem standard, or should play internationally, and you may a very small, weak point.....otherwise complete nonsense which I'm sure doesn't even convince yourself.

 

Do you really think you can take team playing in league 1 (for two seasons) put it in premiership a year later, replace less than half the team and expect a god given right to be in top half by investing few million in very talented youngsters?

 

those who think because players were rated at lower level (Portsmouth's level!) Fans meant they were good enough to be prem stars do make me laugh.

 

 

 

Utter bullsh it by the way.

 

That humble lower league one team contained a million pound keeper, a million pound centre back, a million pound midfielder and million pound striker. Multi million pounds worth of talent all over the pitch.

 

You're making them out to be some bunch of jumped up Hereford United style part timers.

 

And I think it highly disrespectful that you sneer at our current team and write them off as nothing but lower league one standard.