Sour Mash Posted 10 January, 2013 Share Posted 10 January, 2013 http://bundesligafootball.co.uk/2012/05/bundesliga-ticket-prices/ http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2010/apr/11/bundesliga-premier-league Exactly, £56 for some tickets at Bayern games, similar for all the other big clubs unfortunately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 10 January, 2013 Author Share Posted 10 January, 2013 Thats only ever a small proportion of the grounds, not all, about 40%/50% of that ground and we are talking Bayern Munich here the most popular team in Germany are 40 euros or less. I was wrong though as I thought all games were capped at $20 Euro for a larger section of the stadiums, still too be fair there is an awful way to go until we get anywhere near that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrian lord Posted 10 January, 2013 Share Posted 10 January, 2013 Rupert Murdoch - the death nail of English football !! Perhaps even the death knell? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrian lord Posted 10 January, 2013 Share Posted 10 January, 2013 (edited) The thing that really sickens me at the soulless tourist stadia, like Stamford Bridge and the Emirates in particular, is the pathetic practice of the "fan style" banners and flags they patronisingly put out around the place proclaiming and celebrating "legends" and various silverware. Usually situated on the first tier balconies, where TV exposure is too limited to sell the space for adverts. They think it looks like real, fan-supplied stuff and adds to the atmosphere but it fools no one. Fans are banned from bringing their own banners in FFS, lest it obscures a precious sponsor's advertising hoarding or contravenes H&S... Anyway, it is no surprise that the best atmospheres in the Premier league are in stadia of unfashionable, working class towns - such as Swansea and Stoke. Edited 10 January, 2013 by adrian lord Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 10 January, 2013 Author Share Posted 10 January, 2013 I did an article on atmospheres and the middle classes and got hammered for it, it carries weight though that the best atmospheres are the ones with their traditional support with their original grounds and their local supporters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 10 January, 2013 Share Posted 10 January, 2013 I did an article on atmospheres and the middle classes and got hammered for it, it carries weight though that the best atmospheres are the ones with their traditional support with their original grounds and their local supporters. Original grounds like Stoke and Swansea? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 10 January, 2013 Author Share Posted 10 January, 2013 Original grounds like Stoke and Swansea? Not neccessarily their grounds well they are better than ours though and generate more atmosphere, Sunderland fans miss Roker and the atmosphere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 10 January, 2013 Share Posted 10 January, 2013 Not neccessarily their grounds well they are better than ours though and generate more atmosphere, Sunderland fans miss Roker and the atmosphere. You don't need to tell us, we all know the atmosphere at Nottarf is a myth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotonian Posted 11 January, 2013 Share Posted 11 January, 2013 Rupert Murdoch - the death nail of English football !! You are joking of course, before the prem, back in the 80's, football had become outdated, attendances were declining, stadiums were poor and generally unsafe What Sky have done is create a level way above what we had, dragging football out of the dark ages, attracting some of the best players in the world, more tv coverage, better and safer stadiums, giving a more upmarket appeal to the game, etc etc, but it does come at a cost I guess the championship and below is more of how it used to be, which is why many of us older fans enjoyed the last 3 years in the lower leagues Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 11 January, 2013 Author Share Posted 11 January, 2013 You are joking of course, before the prem, back in the 80's, football had become outdated, attendances were declining, stadiums were poor and generally unsafe What Sky have done is create a level way above what we had, dragging football out of the dark ages, attracting some of the best players in the world, more tv coverage, better and safer stadiums, giving a more upmarket appeal to the game, etc etc, but it does come at a cost I guess the championship and below is more of how it used to be, which is why many of us older fans enjoyed the last 3 years in the lower leagues Boring monotone forced atmospheres? Mercenaries with no attachment to the English game nor love for it. Too much football on tv is killing the game, saturated to the point of boredom. More upmarket appeal to the game? In real terms that means the game has been taken away from the working class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrian lord Posted 11 January, 2013 Share Posted 11 January, 2013 I guess the championship and below is more of how it used to be, which is why many of us older fans enjoyed the last 3 years in the lower leagues I honestly did derive a certain masochistic, nostalgic pleasure from trudging across muddy car parks in the pouring rain to pay cash to stand on the terrace at P'borough on that Tuesday night last season. And to top it all we won the game, and I knew in my heart we would definitely get promoted. Vivid memories, far better than endless identikit sterile afternoons at St Mary's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 11 January, 2013 Author Share Posted 11 January, 2013 The Southampton equivlent of the Chelsea plastic flag waver will disagree and say endlessly say back to back promotions, new all seater stadiums, lovely if you want that, I dont I want a stadium thats original and one that generates an atmosphere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warsash saint Posted 11 January, 2013 Share Posted 11 January, 2013 You are joking of course, before the prem, back in the 80's, football had become outdated, attendances were declining, stadiums were poor and generally unsafe What Sky have done is create a level way above what we had, dragging football out of the dark ages, attracting some of the best players in the world, more tv coverage, better and safer stadiums, giving a more upmarket appeal to the game, etc etc, but it does come at a cost I guess the championship and below is more of how it used to be, which is why many of us older fans enjoyed the last 3 years in the lower leagues I was not joking .... football was far better in the 80's / early 90's. Grounds with charactor (no identikit staduims), games that actually had an atmosphere, standing to watch a game & not having to remortgage the house every time I wanted to go to a game! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotonian Posted 11 January, 2013 Share Posted 11 January, 2013 Boring monotone forced atmospheres? Mercenaries with no attachment to the English game nor love for it. Too much football on tv is killing the game, saturated to the point of boredom. More upmarket appeal to the game? In real terms that means the game has been taken away from the working class. To a certain extent I'm in agreement with you, but the rise in attendances would suggest its not really killing the game, it's just evolving, maybe not in the way us old purists would like Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 11 January, 2013 Author Share Posted 11 January, 2013 I was not joking .... football was far better in the 80's / early 90's. Grounds with charactor (no identikit staduims), games that actually had an atmosphere, standing to watch a game & not having to remortgage the house every time I wanted to go to a game! Warsash, I completely agree, I will always support the Saints regardless of who is in charge, where we play and who plays for us, they matter not really to me or are a sideline, we have lost a lot though since Sky have come along. Our ground, by that I mean our original ground and our own atmosphere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 11 January, 2013 Author Share Posted 11 January, 2013 (edited) To a certain extent I'm in agreement with you, but the rise in attendances would suggest its not really killing the game, it's just evolving, maybe not in the way us old purists would like Attendances have flatlined though, only two teams in the Premiership are at 100% capacity. Will add there there are a few teams at the high 90% attendance. Edited 11 January, 2013 by Barry Sanchez Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 11 January, 2013 Share Posted 11 January, 2013 Its just bizarre that Arsenal will charge differing amounts to away fans when there is no logic behind it. Saints fans are always going to want to visit the Emirates and are bound to sell quite a lot, but as Cat C the tickets were only £25. You shouldn't be penalised for supporting a successful team. How there can be a difference of 50 quid for Man City away to 20 quid for Wigan away is just bizarre. Supply and demand. I'm not sure how that's difficult to understand. Far more people want to watch the top teams, City fans are only narky about it because they're used to being third rate and being charged lower prices, Man U fans were moaning about this 10 years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 11 January, 2013 Share Posted 11 January, 2013 I was not joking .... football was far better in the 80's / early 90's. Grounds with charactor (no identikit staduims), games that actually had an atmosphere, standing to watch a game & not having to remortgage the house every time I wanted to go to a game! I enjoy going to football far more nowadays than I ever did in the 80s or early 90s just because it's much more sociable nowadays and there's not much difference in atmosphere, other than standing versus sitting which is nothing to do with the timeframe if you're including the all-seater early 90s. The football is much better as well with far better players across the top division, it's only the cost that is rubbish in comparison - and with away games it's normally petrol rather than match tickets than make it prohibitive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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