Saint_clark Posted 10 January, 2013 Share Posted 10 January, 2013 For 10 million you could get a better left back than Shaw in his current state. We wouldn't get 10 million £ if we sold him today. Needs work on getting by-passed too easily. Who? I genuinely cannot think of anyone. Unless Ashley Cole is willing to take 65k a week on a 3 year deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 10 January, 2013 Share Posted 10 January, 2013 Who? I genuinely cannot think of anyone. Unless Ashley Cole is willing to take 65k a week on a 3 year deal. Honestly I'd say Danny Rose or Assouu Ekotto are better left backs right now than Shaw. Shaw has potential but either of those 2 would do a better job right now and would be available for less than 10 million £ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 10 January, 2013 Share Posted 10 January, 2013 I'm delighted that he has made a verbal commitment to pledge his immediate future to us. But I really do gain a lot of satisfaction when considering all the tosh emanating from various Red Tops about how it was a done deal that he would be off to Arsenal or some other glory team during this transfer window. Those journos really do look like idiots now and their credibility will have been severely dented in the eyes of those naive enough to believe that everything printed in those rags must be true. So when rumours surface in these rags that Adkins is about to get the bullet, we can now refer to the erroneous reporting of Shaw's departure and say that they didn't get anything right there, did they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 10 January, 2013 Share Posted 10 January, 2013 I'm delighted that he has made a verbal commitment to pledge his immediate future to us. But I really do gain a lot of satisfaction when considering all the tosh emanating from various Red Tops about how it was a done deal that he would be off to Arsenal or some other glory team during this transfer window. Those journos really do look like idiots now and their credibility will have been severely dented in the eyes of those naive enough to believe that everything printed in those rags must be true. So when rumours surface in these rags that Adkins is about to get the bullet, we can now refer to the erroneous reporting of Shaw's departure and say that they didn't get anything right there, did they? Those Journos havent really commented on Shaw staying suprisingly. One of the worst is John Cross from the Mirror who continually said Arsenal were targetting him this window, that talks were going to happen etc and that he would probably move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 10 January, 2013 Share Posted 10 January, 2013 Those Journos havent really commented on Shaw staying suprisingly. One of the worst is John Cross from the Mirror who continually said Arsenal were targetting him this window, that talks were going to happen etc and that he would probably move. Perhaps Shaw just likes playing, wouldn't get in front of Gibbs at the Arse so he'd not be playing much PL football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 10 January, 2013 Share Posted 10 January, 2013 Who? I genuinely cannot think of anyone. Unless Ashley Cole is willing to take 65k a week on a 3 year deal. oh do stop it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 10 January, 2013 Share Posted 10 January, 2013 oh do stop it Why? He's entitled to his opinion and can write what he wants Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 10 January, 2013 Share Posted 10 January, 2013 Why? He's entitled to his opinion and can write what he wants and I am entitled to mine..I wasnt asking him to cut his own eyes out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windmill Arm 2 Posted 10 January, 2013 Share Posted 10 January, 2013 For 10 million you could get a better left back than Shaw in his current state. We wouldn't get 10 million £ if we sold him today. Needs work on getting by-passed too easily. C*nt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 10 January, 2013 Share Posted 10 January, 2013 Those Journos havent really commented on Shaw staying suprisingly. One of the worst is John Cross from the Mirror who continually said Arsenal were targetting him this window, that talks were going to happen etc and that he would probably move. Well, if they did, they would have egg all over their faces. They wouldn't want to look like misinformed idiots, would they? It's a bit like Lawrenson stating that Ramirez wouldn't ever be playing football at Southampton. I don't recall him ever admitting that he was made to look like an idiot either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Wayman Posted 10 January, 2013 Share Posted 10 January, 2013 More propaganda from the OS lapped up by our gullible happy clapping wig and face paint wearing fans You miserable git. Sod off with your snide comments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 10 January, 2013 Share Posted 10 January, 2013 (edited) Nice one Luke, Good news of course, but it makes sense on many fronts..... YES... he may /may not be sought by " big clubs " (according to which " comic " you read)...it's also a fact that he'd be spending time in their U21 side first ...and then a month or two on the bench and an occasional sub.app...... as there is little chance he'd be displacing some £10 million foreign international defender with 30+ caps, (or whatever) ..from the day he signed. Secondly, it's a tribute to the club's organisation that he wants to stay (with the likes of his pal JWP), and sees a future with Saints and not " the so-called glamour of a big club." and of course Wayne Bridge , who was already a first teamer who went before when he debuted at just 18 y.o. (1998) Finding such talent as a tender age is very exciting to watch, and Gareth Bale of course is a recent graduate of the Acaademy, as was Alex O-C, but we older fans can think back to some names in the past who " made it young " and whenever I watch Luke Shaw dribbling down the wing...my mind goes back to another young left back from the 1970's - Steve Mills. Although born in Gosport, Steve chose the better of the two local clubs, and was in Saints' youth set-up before he reached 16. Already in the Reserve side at 17, Steve made his First Division (read Prem). debut in April 1973 before he was 19 and was a regular for several seasons, and was capped for England U23 (when only 21 y.o) Sadly..a tragic car crash almost crippled him and it took a year for him to make a comeback before he was forced to quit football at aged 23. It was later discoverd that he had leukemia and he started a fund to help a research fund. Saints waded in with a special benefit game and over 20,000 fans turned out at The Dell for an emotional evening to honour Steve, and help contributions to the charity. Steve Mills eventually passed away in 1988 (aged 34). Not to take the gloss off a great news story but... am I the only "oldie " who recalls Steve Mills' no-nonsense tackling and those tremendous left-sided runs of his....all those years ago ? Edited 10 January, 2013 by david in sweden Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 10 January, 2013 Share Posted 10 January, 2013 Knew you would like this signing Davie - good news allround. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackanorySFC Posted 10 January, 2013 Share Posted 10 January, 2013 Well, if they did, they would have egg all over their faces. They wouldn't want to look like misinformed idiots, would they? It's a bit like Lawrenson stating that Ramirez wouldn't ever be playing football at Southampton. I don't recall him ever admitting that he was made to look like an idiot either. The same Southampton hating Mark Lawrenson that has regularly predicted us to win this season, in fact if his predictions had come true on January 1st (his last league predictions were December 31st) we'd have been 12th on 22 points. http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/20790407 It's no secret Arsenal were interested in Shaw, they would have tried to put pressure on him by feeding this info' to the press. If your on the Sports desk at the Sun and and Arsenal senior bod phones you and says "oi, remember me for this next time you want to take someone out for a decent lunch, but that Luke Shaw lad at Saints, our scouts have been watching him all season, he's mustard, and with Santos not being all that we'll be sounding Saints out to see if we can get him". What do you expect the Sun journo to do? Tell him thanks but no thanks the paper's full? EVERY transfer link story has a source, I know that for a fact, whether it be the player, his parents, a mate, his agent, the buying club trying to put pressure on (in Arsenal's case that exact strategy has worked with our players before) or the selling club trying to flush out potential bidders. With every tip off from one of these sources it is followed up by getting confirmation from another source. Not rocket science, believe me, enough of this goes on without having to make stuff up lol! Some on here need to calm down, jounos don't have it in for us, the only problem we have is they don't particularly care about us either way if anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmonton Saint Posted 10 January, 2013 Share Posted 10 January, 2013 Great news. Shaw is a real talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 10 January, 2013 Share Posted 10 January, 2013 Knew you would like this signing Davie - good news allround. Yes ABSOLUTELY ! ....whenever I watch (Luke) in action ..... either attacking or dropping back to defend... I have to keep reminding myself he's ONLY 17 ....What a great prospect! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 10 January, 2013 Share Posted 10 January, 2013 can't be bothered to think about what this may or may not mean, what might happen down the road and how things may change. Right here, right now this is bloody brilliant. Feels like a Lallana signing type moment, which IMO played a huge part in the proceeding two years of success and new signings. It's a pivotal moment that could give us the foundation to keep our youth and maybe build a proper side that gets better rather than worse. Enjoy and bask in this news and worry about the rest later. Roll on Saturday... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefizzy14 Posted 10 January, 2013 Share Posted 10 January, 2013 Best News of the Window in my Opinion, this lad has got massive potential. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sussexsaint Posted 10 January, 2013 Share Posted 10 January, 2013 Only news of the window tbf Great news Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 10 January, 2013 Share Posted 10 January, 2013 Great news, much better of here than sat in Arsenal reserves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 10 January, 2013 Share Posted 10 January, 2013 Well, if they did, they would have egg all over their faces. They wouldn't want to look like misinformed idiots, would they? It's a bit like Lawrenson stating that Ramirez wouldn't ever be playing football at Southampton. I don't recall him ever admitting that he was made to look like an idiot either. Im sure Mark Lawrenson or any journalists for that matter couldn't give a toss if you think they are an idiot, Les. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laughba Posted 10 January, 2013 Share Posted 10 January, 2013 Honestly I'd say Danny Rose or Assouu Ekotto are better left backs right now than Shaw. Shaw has potential but either of those 2 would do a better job right now and would be available for less than 10 million £ Assou Ekotto at current is in my opinion definitely better than Shaw. Not Danny Rose though. Although if you gave me a choice of Shaw or Ekotto, I'd still go for Shaw, being English and having much more potential. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 10 January, 2013 Share Posted 10 January, 2013 Excellent news. Nice work, Nicola. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Without a Halo Posted 10 January, 2013 Share Posted 10 January, 2013 Honestly I'd say Danny Rose or Assouu Ekotto are better left backs right now than Shaw. Shaw has potential but either of those 2 would do a better job right now and would be available for less than 10 million £ Yes but a price today is made up of a two main issues namely current state and future potential as its future potential that will determine future price. On that basis he is worth more than the two you named as he is younger and has greater potential. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExSt Peter Saint Posted 10 January, 2013 Share Posted 10 January, 2013 I was confident he would stay. I think if we weren't in the premier league, it might be harder to keep him, but we should have a couple more seasons of watching him develop now. The future looks bright if we can build a team round the best talent from our academy with the odd star signing (like Ramirez) adding real class. Just wish we could develop a real top class CB through the youth setup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victor Posted 10 January, 2013 Share Posted 10 January, 2013 Its all thanks largely to two men, one of them has died and we seem to regulary have certain fans bemoaning the other two. What fickle fans we have ^_- I have read this several times and I still can't work out how many I am supposed to be bemoaning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 10 January, 2013 Share Posted 10 January, 2013 This is a real statment of intent. It's not 1995 anymore, we are no longer at the Dell! Here are his youtube bits! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 10 January, 2013 Share Posted 10 January, 2013 Good news though to quote an Adkinism 'until he puts pen to paper...' There's a lot of fawning over our players, especially our academy products -much of it parochial and OTT. JWP being a recent example. But having been slightly sceptical about Shaw, I do believe he's the real deal. Even making Fox an afterthought and putting in night and day performances is no mean feat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deano6 Posted 10 January, 2013 Share Posted 10 January, 2013 This thread really is buckling under the strain of having everyone reaching a consensus. A few trying to take it off course, but failing. Bravo! We did it! Fantastic news on Shaw front. I hadn't seen that goal before Turkish - shows he has real talent all over the pitch! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 10 January, 2013 Share Posted 10 January, 2013 This is a real statment of intent. It's not 1995 anymore, we are no longer at the Dell! Here are his youtube bits! I was at that game, quality goal, great memories Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musesaint Posted 10 January, 2013 Share Posted 10 January, 2013 Great news but ........Will he stay if Saints don't stay up ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 10 January, 2013 Share Posted 10 January, 2013 I was at that game, quality goal, great memories Its from a computer game der-brain! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 12 January, 2013 Share Posted 12 January, 2013 The same Southampton hating Mark Lawrenson that has regularly predicted us to win this season, in fact if his predictions had come true on January 1st (his last league predictions were December 31st) we'd have been 12th on 22 points. http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/20790407 It's no secret Arsenal were interested in Shaw, they would have tried to put pressure on him by feeding this info' to the press. If your on the Sports desk at the Sun and and Arsenal senior bod phones you and says "oi, remember me for this next time you want to take someone out for a decent lunch, but that Luke Shaw lad at Saints, our scouts have been watching him all season, he's mustard, and with Santos not being all that we'll be sounding Saints out to see if we can get him". What do you expect the Sun journo to do? Tell him thanks but no thanks the paper's full? EVERY transfer link story has a source, I know that for a fact, whether it be the player, his parents, a mate, his agent, the buying club trying to put pressure on (in Arsenal's case that exact strategy has worked with our players before) or the selling club trying to flush out potential bidders. With every tip off from one of these sources it is followed up by getting confirmation from another source. Not rocket science, believe me, enough of this goes on without having to make stuff up lol! Some on here need to calm down, jounos don't have it in for us, the only problem we have is they don't particularly care about us either way if anything. So I agreed with a post which suggested that journos who had predicted that Shaw would sign for Arsenal should at the very least admit that they were wrong, the same with Lawrenson with his opinion that Ramirez would never sign for us and I'm faced with a diatribe about out how these journos operate. I have a pretty good understanding about how they work, thanks. I repeat, I only suggested that they should have the decency to admit when they were wrong, or at the very least learn from their mistakes and be a bit more circumspect the next time. But I won't hold my breath. Regardless of how they obtain their information, if they present it in such a way that they infer that it is a done deal, then the end result when it doesn't happen, is firstly that they will look like idiots and secondly that as a result of them constantly getting it wrong, nobody will give their predictions any credence. I'm old enough and have seen journos getting enough of their predictions badly wrong in my lifetime to take the second position, that most of the stuff they write is made up rubbish. In the same way that they will gladly accept the plaudits when they get their predictions right, they should likewise accept the derision when they get them wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_TOAST Posted 12 January, 2013 Share Posted 12 January, 2013 Its from a computer game der-brain! whoooooshhhhh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toofarnorth Posted 12 January, 2013 Share Posted 12 January, 2013 Four year deal to be signed on his Birthday says Jonathan Pearce Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpturner Posted 12 January, 2013 Share Posted 12 January, 2013 Its from a computer game der-brain!Oh dear - an own goal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazlo78 Posted 16 January, 2013 Share Posted 16 January, 2013 Today, Shaw once again showed maturity beyond his years. He is agile, quick, reads the game well, but his best asset to me is his cool head; he rarely makes rash challenges (Fox) or makes mistakes when under pressure (Hooiveld). In American Football he'd be the quarterback with that mindset. He is very thorough and concentrated in all his actions, be it defending from a winger, shielding the ball for a goal kick, or passing the ball upfield. Lately, he more willingly comes bombing forwards (is he growing in confidence and courage?) - against Villa there was a nice shot and today there was an assist to remember. In short: he has athleticism that many other players can match, but that cool head of his is worth it's weight in gold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 17 January, 2013 Share Posted 17 January, 2013 His forward play is getting better and better. The run that set up the equaliser was brilliant No doubt his final ball will improve too. What a Future he has. Hard to believe he is only 17. It won't belong before he is brought into the England fold with the full squad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 17 January, 2013 Share Posted 17 January, 2013 Just hope he keeps his word and signs that contract. I'm not sure how legally binding his 'word' is! Especially if we get relegated! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 17 January, 2013 Share Posted 17 January, 2013 Would imagine he has signed the contract to kick in from his birthday.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 17 January, 2013 Share Posted 17 January, 2013 oh do stop it Stop what? Who do you think is better? Danny Rose isn't as good defensively and I've never rated Assou-ekotto, he seems to have benefited from the old "absence makes the heart grow fonder" while he's been injured. Only reason he looked decent for Spurs was because he was playing with Bale who took all the attention from the opposition team, affording Assou-ekotto tons of space. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UpweySaint Posted 17 January, 2013 Share Posted 17 January, 2013 For me Assou Ekotto is actually a cracking player but with me in that Danny Rose is far from convincing at the back. A real yard of pace though and may have the potential to be a flying full back but i'd genuinely be hesitant to predict how good he will be i'm sure shaw will be better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 18 January, 2013 Share Posted 18 January, 2013 Will he stay now? He sounds as shocked as we are. Keeping him is the number 1 priority for the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 18 January, 2013 Share Posted 18 January, 2013 said he was "very confused" on twitter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 18 January, 2013 Share Posted 18 January, 2013 Wouldn't surprise me if he leaves when we go down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 18 January, 2013 Share Posted 18 January, 2013 Or before the window closes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint-Reece Posted 18 January, 2013 Share Posted 18 January, 2013 Wouldn't blame him for leaving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a1ex2001 Posted 18 January, 2013 Share Posted 18 January, 2013 said he was "very confused" on twitter Wouldn't surprise me if he leaves when we go down. Wouldn't surprise me if he leaves in the next two weeks, rats and sinking ships? I know if I had the choice I'd want out of this mad house! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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