redcoley Posted 8 January, 2013 Share Posted 8 January, 2013 Just wondering if Nigel is getting sacked before the villa game or after. With all the links to Serie A players there is only one manager I want to see and that is Di Matteo. On current form we are nowhere near good enough to survive this season. Act now and there is a good chance of staying up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 8 January, 2013 Share Posted 8 January, 2013 Yawn. Poor attempt at a wind up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenridge Posted 8 January, 2013 Share Posted 8 January, 2013 Oh dear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 8 January, 2013 Share Posted 8 January, 2013 Haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 8 January, 2013 Share Posted 8 January, 2013 Just wondering if Nigel is getting sacked before the villa game or after. With all the links to Serie A players there is only one manager I want to see and that is Di Matteo. On current form we are nowhere near good enough to survive this season. Act now and there is a good chance of staying up. Lolz - current form guide and current league table puts us out the bottom three on both counts so you are wrong. http://www.premierleague.com/en-gb/matchday/form-guide.html If you want to be a proper WUM then there is work to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redcoley Posted 8 January, 2013 Author Share Posted 8 January, 2013 I'm being serious !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazlo78 Posted 8 January, 2013 Share Posted 8 January, 2013 Enjoy Moneyfields Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 8 January, 2013 Share Posted 8 January, 2013 Blue Coley more like it, as Coley is a fish, so appropriate to our fishy friends down the road. As Lazlo says, enjoy Moneyfields after you're liquidated shortly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matty's Caddy Posted 8 January, 2013 Share Posted 8 January, 2013 To be fair though, he's got a point. It's only a matter of time before RDM is installed as manager, he's already working for us in some capacity, be it facilitating these latest transfers or whatever. Nigel's done brilliantly for us up to now but I just feel that when we want to be attracting the type of talent now apparent, RDM would raise the profile of the club yet further. It's only a matter of time now, lose Saturday and its curtains for our nigel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 8 January, 2013 Share Posted 8 January, 2013 Poorly executed WUM. Zero subtlety. Registered since 09 but hardly posted at all until recently. Only 4 posts in total; 2 separate threads dedicated to RDM being appointed. Obvious WUM is obvious. Come on pal, you're not even putting the effort in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 8 January, 2013 Share Posted 8 January, 2013 Just wondering if Nigel is getting sacked before the villa game or after. With all the links to Serie A players there is only one manager I want to see and that is Di Matteo. On current form we are nowhere near good enough to survive this season. Act now and there is a good chance of staying up. Thankfully you are a registered user and we only have to view this sort of drivel 3 times a day... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 8 January, 2013 Share Posted 8 January, 2013 To be fair though, he's got a point. It's only a matter of time before RDM is installed as manager, he's already working for us in some capacity, be it facilitating these latest transfers or whatever. Nigel's done brilliantly for us up to now but I just feel that when we want to be attracting the type of talent now apparent, RDM would raise the profile of the club yet further. It's only a matter of time now, lose Saturday and its curtains for our nigel Not sure about RDM already working for us, but agree he'll end up being our manager sooner, rather than later. Not ITK, just a gut feeling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrian lord Posted 8 January, 2013 Share Posted 8 January, 2013 I thought the schools went back yesterday? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 8 January, 2013 Share Posted 8 January, 2013 (edited) Poorly executed WUM. Zero subtlety. Registered since 09 but hardly posted at all until recently. Only 4 posts in total; 2 separate threads dedicated to RDM being appointed. Obvious WUM is obvious. Come on pal, you're not even putting the effort in. Have we got a WUM Course we could send him on? He needs educating in the world of wummery. Plus the use of question marks when asking....a question. All in all a dismal effort from the lad. Edited 8 January, 2013 by Saint Charlie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KelvinsRightGlove Posted 8 January, 2013 Share Posted 8 January, 2013 http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/20943089 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
influx Posted 8 January, 2013 Share Posted 8 January, 2013 Poorly executed WUM. Zero subtlety. Registered since 09 but hardly posted at all until recently. Only 4 posts in total; 2 separate threads dedicated to RDM being appointed. Obvious WUM is obvious. Come on pal, you're not even putting the effort in. Whats? Like 7500 odd posts worth of effort!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 8 January, 2013 Share Posted 8 January, 2013 As we were told POL have only 17 members I doubt he has many other forum users to talk to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H Posted 8 January, 2013 Share Posted 8 January, 2013 I thought the schools went back yesterday? A lot of the Portsmouth schools had in-set days ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicestersaint Posted 8 January, 2013 Share Posted 8 January, 2013 Ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avenue Saint Posted 8 January, 2013 Share Posted 8 January, 2013 What a frog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Bateman Posted 8 January, 2013 Share Posted 8 January, 2013 http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/20943089 Yeah, didn't you know? He's going to be reporting to Jason Dodd as his assistant U18 coach because he always looked up to Doddsy as a player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 8 January, 2013 Share Posted 8 January, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 8 January, 2013 Share Posted 8 January, 2013 Make an effort! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 8 January, 2013 Share Posted 8 January, 2013 Whats? Like 7500 odd posts worth of effort!? I'm far too dumb to be a WUM; these mad ramblings truly are what I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
influx Posted 8 January, 2013 Share Posted 8 January, 2013 I'm far too dumb to be a WUM; these mad ramblings truly are what I think. Fair enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 8 January, 2013 Share Posted 8 January, 2013 FWIW I think he's safe for the season now, but will be gone if we are relegated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
influx Posted 8 January, 2013 Share Posted 8 January, 2013 FWIW I think he's safe for the season now, but will be gone if we are relegated. I think he has more chance of keeping his job if we are relegated. If we stay up then I think he may get the sack. So we can "push on" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 8 January, 2013 Share Posted 8 January, 2013 I think he has more chance of keeping his job if we are relegated. If we stay up then I think he may get the sack. So we can "push on" Was just thinking the same Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Wayman Posted 8 January, 2013 Share Posted 8 January, 2013 To be fair though, he's got a point. It's only a matter of time before RDM is installed as manager, he's already working for us in some capacity, be it facilitating these latest transfers or whatever. Nigel's done brilliantly for us up to now but I just feel that when we want to be attracting the type of talent now apparent, RDM would raise the profile of the club yet further. It's only a matter of time now, lose Saturday and its curtains for our nigel di Matt-e-o didn't do very well at Chelsea or Wigan. In any case Nigel Adkins is by far the nicest manager in the PL, he's a very nice man an that's good enough for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toomer Posted 8 January, 2013 Share Posted 8 January, 2013 FWIW I think he's safe for the season now, but will be gone if we are relegated. I think you will find he is safe even if we are relegated, the word is that NC has every faith if the worst happens NA is the right man to bring us back up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miserableoldgit Posted 8 January, 2013 Share Posted 8 January, 2013 di Matt-e-o didn't do very well at Chelsea or Wigan. In any case Nigel Adkins is by far the nicest manager in the PL, he's a very nice man an that's good enough for me. Don`t forget his lovely suntan.............most important!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 8 January, 2013 Share Posted 8 January, 2013 I think he has more chance of keeping his job if we are relegated. If we stay up then I think he may get the sack. So we can "push on" For me he will have demonstrated he doesnt have enough for the PL if we are relegated. So what do you do ? Give him a chance to get us back up again then fire him ? Bizarre, you simpy cannot do that. But not to do so risks yo-yoing. Or do you appoint someone who can get us up again THEN keep us there ? OK, here's an idea: if we go down, give him a chance to get us up again, making it clear he has a job still if we are promoted, but someone will be coming in over him. Its up to him then to decide if he can live with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 8 January, 2013 Share Posted 8 January, 2013 I think you will find he is safe even if we are relegated, the word is that NC has every faith if the worst happens NA is the right man to bring us back up. And take us back down again. If the "word" is true, maybe Dalek has a point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THINWHITEDUKE Posted 8 January, 2013 Share Posted 8 January, 2013 Just wondering if Nigel is getting sacked before the villa game or after. With all the links to Serie A players there is only one manager I want to see and that is Di Matteo. On current form we are nowhere near good enough to survive this season. Act now and there is a good chance of staying up. Interesting take on current events, agree with some posters not very subtle but is time running out for NA? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 8 January, 2013 Share Posted 8 January, 2013 For me he is the best Saints Manager we have had in 25 years so I would keep him regardless. The team has constantly improved since he took the job and continues to do so. I think some people won't realise how good he is until he is not our Manager anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THINWHITEDUKE Posted 8 January, 2013 Share Posted 8 January, 2013 To be fair though, he's got a point. It's only a matter of time before RDM is installed as manager, he's already working for us in some capacity, be it facilitating these latest transfers or whatever. Ok then, rule 1 or is it 2? Source? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 8 January, 2013 Share Posted 8 January, 2013 For me he is the best Saints Manager we have had in 25 years so I would keep him regardless. The team has constantly improved since he took the job and continues to do so. I think some people won't realise how good he is until he is not our Manager anymore. Until he gets us a top ten finish in this league; until he gets us to a cup final; until he gets us up to 4th place in the league around Xmas time; then I can't go along with that I'm afraid. NA may well turn out to be brilliant; at the moment he is a good manager but one who has overseen a summer transfer spend of the 7th highest in europe yet still has a team hovering around the relegation zone and with one or two serious squad deficiencies that need resolving in the January window. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tajjuk Posted 8 January, 2013 Share Posted 8 January, 2013 If we spend what we are reportedly spending then I think he will sacked if we are relegated. Personally I'd keep him and give him a chance to get us up again, managers like players generally improve with experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 8 January, 2013 Share Posted 8 January, 2013 Until he gets us a top ten finish in this league; until he gets us to a cup final; until he gets us up to 4th place in the league around Xmas time; then I can't go along with that I'm afraid. NA may well turn out to be brilliant; at the moment he is a good manager but one who has overseen a summer transfer spend of the 7th highest in europe yet still has a team hovering around the relegation zone and with one or two serious squad deficiencies that need resolving in the January window. I said it was my opinion, I know the 'facts' don't add up to that. Its hard to compare eras. We were an established Prem team back then with a decent squad of experienced Prem players. What is true IMO is that the football we play now is more enjoyable to watch than it was then, and the game has changed a lot - there is zero chance that 2002/03 team would be anywhere near 4th at Xmas now. With successive promotions and playing good football, plus being a very likeable positive guy I still find it baffling that NA has to justfiy his job so much. Re the transfers - I think that it is very unfair to pin that on him - he gives recommendations but is not in control of whether they are successfully concluded. He said all summer he wanted 2 CBs and we got one. Thats not his fault. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halo Stickman Posted 8 January, 2013 Share Posted 8 January, 2013 I think some people won't realise how good he is until he is not our Manager anymore. Yep, sometimes it’s worth imagining Saints with someone like Di Matteo as manager coming up against an opposition with Adkins as manager. For some reason, I find that thought quite discomforting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 8 January, 2013 Share Posted 8 January, 2013 I said it was my opinion, I know the 'facts' don't add up to that. Its hard to compare eras. We were an established Prem team back then with a decent squad of experienced Prem players. What is true IMO is that the football we play now is more enjoyable to watch than it was then, and the game has changed a lot - there is zero chance that 2002/03 team would be anywhere near 4th at Xmas now. With successive promotions and playing good football, plus being a very likeable positive guy I still find it baffling that NA has to justfiy his job so much. Re the transfers - I think that it is very unfair to pin that on him - he gives recommendations but is not in control of whether they are successfully concluded. He said all summer he wanted 2 CBs and we got one. Thats not his fault. The football is better than under Strachan, that's for sure. But Strachan's teams were very effective at times, if not wonderfully pretty on the eye. Under Hoddle we did play some decent stuff too though, although to be fair he was probably also noted for us for making us very defensively sound (was it 7 clean sheets on the bounce?). The transfers; yep we know there's a committee but in the scheme of things a manager will often stand or fall by the transfers that come in, and how he utilises them. Fair? Perhaps not, but it's what happens no matter how much we would wish to alleviate him from much of the blame (and I certainly do). I certainly hope NA is the manager to take us forwards. He has the right outlook on the game, he's very bright (despite his numerous repetitive cliches) and having met him once he's a thoroughly and genuinely nice bloke. As ever the results will dictate it; hopefully NickG's form guide is an inidicator of an upturn in our fortunes. As I posted earlier, the next 6 games are absolutely vital. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 8 January, 2013 Share Posted 8 January, 2013 As Charlie said, difficult to compare managers of different era's like for like and success is all relative to where you find yourself. When I think about what Adkins has done for us, I still find it staggering that there is a section of support who have never really taken to Adkins and still to this day find ways to try and undermind his achievements. The classic is writing off the league 1 promotion as something anyone could have done. However, Pardew struggled for consistency in the league and our period under Wilkins showed that we were very much beatable. To come in when he did and take us on the run he did is an outstanding achievement in my book and wouldn't have just happened like others like to allude to. If anyone ever said they envisaged us then following it up with promotion straight to the prem whilst staying in the top 2 of the Championship all season, they would be lying. He's a legend in my eyes. Yes we spent money along the way (we needed to) but under different circumstances and a different manager, we could very easily be quite some way from the premier league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHAPEL END CHARLIE Posted 8 January, 2013 Share Posted 8 January, 2013 I think Nigel Adkins is probably safe for the moment, but I would not be at all surprise to learn that he has been set a target by the Chairman - maybe something like a 15th place finish or better - and if we miss that then all bets are off next summer. Time will tell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 8 January, 2013 Share Posted 8 January, 2013 As Charlie said, difficult to compare managers of different era's like for like and success is all relative to where you find yourself. When I think about what Adkins has done for us, I still find it staggering that there is a section of support who have never really taken to Adkins and still to this day find ways to try and undermind his achievements. The classic is writing off the league 1 promotion as something anyone could have done. However, Pardew struggled for consistency in the league and our period under Wilkins showed that we were very much beatable. To come in when he did and take us on the run he did is an outstanding achievement in my book and wouldn't have just happened like others like to allude to. If anyone ever said they envisaged us then following it up with promotion straight to the prem whilst staying in the top 2 of the Championship all season, they would be lying. He's a legend in my eyes. Yes we spent money along the way (we needed to) but under different circumstances and a different manager, we could very easily be quite some way from the premier league. Completely agree. When you see Wolves mess around with Dean Saunders, or Forest with McLeish is makes you realise that the decision to employ Adkins was a great one, and IMO he is the man to keep us up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KelvinsRightGlove Posted 8 January, 2013 Share Posted 8 January, 2013 As Charlie said, difficult to compare managers of different era's like for like and success is all relative to where you find yourself. When I think about what Adkins has done for us, I still find it staggering that there is a section of support who have never really taken to Adkins and still to this day find ways to try and undermind his achievements. The classic is writing off the league 1 promotion as something anyone could have done. However, Pardew struggled for consistency in the league and our period under Wilkins showed that we were very much beatable. To come in when he did and take us on the run he did is an outstanding achievement in my book and wouldn't have just happened like others like to allude to. If anyone ever said they envisaged us then following it up with promotion straight to the prem whilst staying in the top 2 of the Championship all season, they would be lying. He's a legend in my eyes. Yes we spent money along the way (we needed to) but under different circumstances and a different manager, we could very easily be quite some way from the premier league. I'm with you & Charlie. Ok, he hasn't got an 8th placed finish, Cup Final or 4th at xmas, BUT he did take us from the bottom end of League One (22nd was it?) to the Premiership in little over 18 months. Yes we have spent money, though not that huge a net spend - thanks in part to Oxo. But it is worth remembering that we barely had a squad back in '09 when we came into this league. If we are honest we barely had a squad the season previous to that. I don't have exact figures to back this up, but I wouldn't be overly surprised if the total cost spent on assembling our squad wasn't that dissimilar to those around. Certainly last season in the Championship. What were our biggest outlays? £1m Rickie, £1.2m(?) Jose, £1m Guly (?), Corky £750k (steal!), Billy £1.8m. Look at what teams like West Ham, Leicester, Boro & Cardiff have been throwing about, £5m on Matt Mills!! Not to mention the lingering Prem players that were still in the West Ham team and those others that came down with them. In my opinion, taking a team from the bottom end of the third tier to the top tier in such a short space of time is just as big, if not bigger an achievement than being 4th at christmas. Perhaps if WGS saw out the season and had kept us their - but really, 4th at xmas is nothing. Well, counts for nothing at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrian lord Posted 8 January, 2013 Share Posted 8 January, 2013 I think he is potentially a stellar manager, but this season has been hampered by a weak, unbalanced squad. Stick, not twist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halo Stickman Posted 8 January, 2013 Share Posted 8 January, 2013 I feel that the difference between Adkins and our previous managers is yet to be realised and lies somewhere in the future. None of our previous managers have really achieved that much once they left Saints. Yes, I know Strachan won things with Celtic, but, quite frankly, in that league, so could have Michaela Strachan. Despite some of his slightly questionable signings, substitutions and tactics, I’ve a feeling, - a strong gut feeling - that Adkins will one day prove to be a top rate manager at premiership level. I just hope it’s with us and not some other ****ing team! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redcoley Posted 19 January, 2013 Author Share Posted 19 January, 2013 Oh I looks like it was after the villa game. Adkins done a magnificent job at saints and has even surpassed NCs expectations this season making it hard to dismiss him. It was always on the cards. We now have a potential high profile manager that could attract high profile players. I for one will show my appreciation for all the hard work Nigel has done for us at the start of the game on Monday night, then get behind the team. There's a battle on to avoid relegation. I hope NCs vision comes to fruition. Onwards and upwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miltonroader07 Posted 19 January, 2013 Share Posted 19 January, 2013 Just wondering if Nigel is getting sacked before the villa game or after. With all the links to Serie A players there is only one manager I want to see and that is Di Matteo. On current form we are nowhere near good enough to survive this season. Act now and there is a good chance of staying up. Not even a good wind-up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spudders Posted 19 January, 2013 Share Posted 19 January, 2013 ^^^ and Milts is the Jedi master of the 'not even good wind-up' so if he's disappointed, we're all disappointed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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