Window Cleaner Posted 6 January, 2013 Share Posted 6 January, 2013 this game just showed that our 'squad' players are nowhere near good enough but we have been saying that since the beginning of the season some of them even before that. Need a clear out but doubt if we have the funds to refurbish the squad in sufficient numbers. Then again we've only 18 PL games left this season now so we might be able to have a bit of a prune. Look forward to some serious outgoings in the next 2 weeks or so. Something like 3 in 6 out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 6 January, 2013 Share Posted 6 January, 2013 tbf I don't think many of our players would have stopped Chelsea in that 40min spell they had. Sometimes you've just got to hold your hands up and accept that they are light years ahead of anything we have, and they played well. Chelsea have depth, if one player is having an off'ish day they can pull him off and put on another mega-star. If Puncheon is not on song we put on De Ridder... not the same is it. We could only afford to win this game at the first try, when we went behind NA quite rightly let it go. I'd have thrown the game anyway...youth team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surrey1saint Posted 6 January, 2013 Share Posted 6 January, 2013 Oh, and on another note, that's the last we'll ever see of the white kit. What an horrific marketing choice that was. Agreed.Was embarrassing,we play in RED & WHITE,well mostly red this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 6 January, 2013 Share Posted 6 January, 2013 Agreed.Was embarrassing,we play in RED & WHITE,well mostly red this season. Does make you wonder who come up with the idea of the white kit? Surely, when you come up with the idea of an away kit...you check all the perspective grounds you play at to see how often it would be worn...? I don't even think we'd have been able to wear it too much if we were still in the championship either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surrey1saint Posted 6 January, 2013 Share Posted 6 January, 2013 The main worry is that we know one to change the game on the bench. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pedro Posted 6 January, 2013 Share Posted 6 January, 2013 Chelsea were the best team we have seen for a long time, especially second half, we surrendered the best part of the ground to the opposition supporters thereby scattering the Northam boys in different parts and played in our "away kit". Bizarre treatment of Saints regulars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surrey1saint Posted 6 January, 2013 Share Posted 6 January, 2013 Chelsea were the best team we have seen for a long time, especially second half, we surrendered the best part of the ground to the opposition supporters thereby scattering the Northam boys in different parts and played in our "away kit". Bizarre treatment of Saints regulars. Agreed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 6 January, 2013 Share Posted 6 January, 2013 We played well in the first half. Really? The team selection was poor, at least one more striker needed, back to the early season keeping possession going nowhere. The goal if I remember was Boruc to Cork, ball forward won by Puncheon immediately swept into the left channel and finished by Rodriguez. Totally in contrast to the rest of the play. The three central midfielders just played negatively, closed down but when in possession boringly negative. Has Davis ever made a tackle in his career? The three midfielders seem obsessed with possession, sideways and backwards, then in the second half lost the tempo, stopped closing down and were pulled all over the place by Chelsea. We brought on DeRidder, for Gods sake why? He is a quick runner, every time he started a run, the midfielders, especially Davis just took two or three touches, two or three looks around then played a square ball to somebody. It was the same with Puncheon and Rodriguez, they made runs but had to check out when the ball wasn't put through. If DR is brought on, the ball has to be delivered early to give him the opportunity to run the full back. I felt sorry for the lad, he is trying but getting no help or service. We improved immeasurably by getting the ball forward quicker in recent games, which is the way we will stay up, not playing count the passes. Chelsea did this but with a quality we can't match as long as we just stand off and watch. If Boruc is the answer, I'd love to know what the question is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 6 January, 2013 Share Posted 6 January, 2013 All for free speech, but its time the mods banned the persistent trolls, brings this place down massively. We all know who they are, have been a supporter of this site since day one and happy to make a small contribution, but its the same old **** from the same ****s time and time again. What an arrogant post. We contribute the same as you, and are as entitled to post our general opinions and reactions to a result as much as you. Yes, we post something persistently, because there is a game every week ( ) and its the same old b*ll*cks - totally out-classed in a game or making a good start, getting our noses in front and either giving it away or not having enough to hold out or extend the lead. Grow up and accept the fact that not everyone agrees with you, some can see fundamental issues, and that doesnt make them trolls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 6 January, 2013 Share Posted 6 January, 2013 (edited) What an arrogant post. We contribute the same as you, and are as entitled to post our general opinions and reactions to a result as much as you. Yes, we post something persistently, because there is a game every week ( ) and its the same old b*ll*cks - totally out-classed in a game or making a good start, getting our noses in front and either giving it away or not having enough to hold out or extend the lead. Grow up and accept the fact that not everyone agrees with you, some can see fundamental issues, and that doesnt make them trolls. You are a troll. Even during successive promotion seasons you were doom and gloom, overreacting to everything and never admitting you were wrong. The vast majority on this board dislike you and wish you would stop posting. I'm sure you won't like this post but 90% plus will agree with me so just being honest. Look back over your post history and try to find the last one that was positive - you are unbalanced. Edited 6 January, 2013 by Saint Charlie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 6 January, 2013 Share Posted 6 January, 2013 You are a troll. Even during successive promotion seasons you were doom and gloom, overreacting to everything and never admitting you were wrong. The vast majority on this board dislike you and wish you would stop posting. I'm sure you won't like this post but 90% plus will agree with me so just being honest. Nope, I am a life-long Saints fan. Deal with it. And I couldnt care less about the "90%". I come here to discuss my team and there are a few capable of doing so in an open and respectful manner, amongst all the hysterical old women and meat-heads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 6 January, 2013 Share Posted 6 January, 2013 Nope, I am a life-long Saints fan. Deal with it. And I couldnt care less about the "90%". I come here to discuss my team and there are a few capable of doing so in an open and respectful manner, amongst all the hysterical old women and meat-heads. Ok, just putting an opinion across which many others hold. You have a very negative attitude towards Saints. I hope you have enjoyed the last few seasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 6 January, 2013 Share Posted 6 January, 2013 Ok, just putting an opinion across which many others hold. You have a very negative attitude towards Saints. I hope you have enjoyed the last few seasons. There were definitely high points to enjoy, and that final run-in in L1 was really fantastic, but what always takes the shine off is the overall feeling I get left with that we invariably find a way to make life as difficult for ourselves as possible. This season was always going to be a steep learning curve, but we didnt have to tie one hand behind our backs as well with a naff unbalanced summer of transfer activity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 6 January, 2013 Share Posted 6 January, 2013 There were definitely high points to enjoy, and that final run-in in L1 was really fantastic, but what always takes the shine off is the overall feeling I get left with that we invariably find a way to make life as difficult for ourselves as possible. This season was always going to be a steep learning curve, but we didnt have to tie one hand behind our backs as well with a naff unbalanced summer of transfer activity. Fair enough. For me there can be no real negatives to successive promotions, can barely get a better couple of seasons IMO, especially playing decent footy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 6 January, 2013 Share Posted 6 January, 2013 Nope, I am a life-long Saints fan. Deal with it. And I couldnt care less about the "90%". I come here to discuss my team and there are a few capable of doing so in an open and respectful manner, amongst all the hysterical old women and meat-heads. You are the least open and respectful poster on the site. Rude, arrogant and just an all round nasty piece of work. You know nothing about football and even less about Saints. You are not worth the pixels used in this reply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 6 January, 2013 Share Posted 6 January, 2013 You are the least open and respectful poster on the site. Rude, arrogant and just an all round nasty piece of work. You know nothing about football and even less about Saints. You are not worth the pixels used in this reply. I agree. Posters call me negative but I at least can appreciate when we do well and I go to plenty of games home and away in order to form an opinion. He is a joke and the bast majority of posters are fed up with his crud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 6 January, 2013 Share Posted 6 January, 2013 Far too much being made of this defeat, we couldn't afford to progress and Chelsea have the FA Cup as a prime objective. NA couldn't say we didn't want to win could he but I have no doubt that yesterday was not a priority for us unlerss of course Chelsea didn't turn up and made it easy for us. Couldn't play a reserve team because of the price, besides we haven't got one. Imagine if we'd put out the side that we did against Leeds, Southampton would have gone into meltdown when we lost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainchris Posted 6 January, 2013 Share Posted 6 January, 2013 We played well in the first half. Really? The team selection was poor, at least one more striker needed, back to the early season keeping possession going nowhere. The goal if I remember was Boruc to Cork, ball forward won by Puncheon immediately swept into the left channel and finished by Rodriguez. Totally in contrast to the rest of the play. The three central midfielders just played negatively, closed down but when in possession boringly negative. Has Davis ever made a tackle in his career? The three midfielders seem obsessed with possession, sideways and backwards, then in the second half lost the tempo, stopped closing down and were pulled all over the place by Chelsea. We brought on DeRidder, for Gods sake why? He is a quick runner, every time he started a run, the midfielders, especially Davis just took two or three touches, two or three looks around then played a square ball to somebody. It was the same with Puncheon and Rodriguez, they made runs but had to check out when the ball wasn't put through. If DR is brought on, the ball has to be delivered early to give him the opportunity to run the full back. I felt sorry for the lad, he is trying but getting no help or service. We improved immeasurably by getting the ball forward quicker in recent games, which is the way we will stay up, not playing count the passes. Chelsea did this but with a quality we can't match as long as we just stand off and watch. If Boruc is the answer, I'd love to know what the question is. Well put....... Once we stopped closing down and working as hard that was it. Hard work has got us some decent results in recent games - good teams work really hard for the whole game and yesterday we only worked really hard for 30 mins. If you play like, shall we say Fox who stands off and watches, you will watch teams play round you all day.. Back to to treadmill guys....... Certainly agree about the squad comments too but hard work will rectify a part of this issue.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintsmike25 Posted 6 January, 2013 Share Posted 6 January, 2013 At least Dalek is tolerable with his negativity, and it has some positive slants on it. Alpine however is tedious, even if you post prasing the team you're called "rose-tinted". The forums would be 50% better without him. No-one even stands up for his opinion anymore, as for life-long Saints fan, i wish he would bugger off and "support" another team and plague their forums. He wouldn't know the what support is, unless negative views and posting and bringing every other supporter who goes to games down - counts as support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 6 January, 2013 Share Posted 6 January, 2013 You are a troll. Even during successive promotion seasons you were doom and gloom, overreacting to everything and never admitting you were wrong. The vast majority on this board dislike you and wish you would stop posting. I'm sure you won't like this post but 90% plus will agree with me so just being honest. Look back over your post history and try to find the last one that was positive - you are unbalanced. Why is it that someone who has a more cautious and realistic position a troll ? I reckon the over optimistic 'rose tinted spectacle brigade' are just as likely to be trolls by your definition. Look at Dr Who, never sees anything wrong and far too optimistic to be realistic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 6 January, 2013 Share Posted 6 January, 2013 Why is it that someone who has a more cautious and realistic position a troll ? I reckon the over optimistic 'rose tinted spectacle brigade' are just as likely to be trolls by your definition. Look at Dr Who, never sees anything wrong and far too optimistic to be realistic. That isn't why he is labelled as a troll as you well know. The likes of Kraken for instance would never be labelled as overly positive but he's not a troll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 6 January, 2013 Share Posted 6 January, 2013 At least Dalek is tolerable with his negativity, and it has some positive slants on it. Alpine however is tedious, even if you post prasing the team you're called "rose-tinted". The forums would be 50% better without him. No-one even stands up for his opinion anymore, as for life-long Saints fan, i wish he would bugger off and "support" another team and plague their forums. He wouldn't know the what support is, unless negative views and posting and bringing every other supporter who goes to games down - counts as support. Oh for heavens sake, another childish response. If your lot's support is so fragile and doubtful, that my expression of my lack of conviction about how we are going about things manages to bring you lot down, you'd be best facing up to the fact that there are genuine issues at the club. FFS. Oh, and Hypochondriac lecturing about trolling is about the funniest thing I've read on here. WIFRM or children hospital visits anyone ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 6 January, 2013 Share Posted 6 January, 2013 Troll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintsmike25 Posted 6 January, 2013 Share Posted 6 January, 2013 It isn't fragile you just like to stamp out any positivity no matter what with impending doom and gloom posts. Hence why you have become such a joke poster. Anyway how are those predictions you were making Alpine when you said we would draw against QPR and lose the rest. Your knowledge of football is absolutely dire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hasper57saint Posted 6 January, 2013 Share Posted 6 January, 2013 Don't include me in your sweeping generalisation Saint Charlie.I don't dislike ANYONE on here. I read the comments and draw my own conclusions but never get personal. This is a Message Board for Saints fans and we are ALL Saints Fans except the Fishermen who come on here every once in a while to stir things up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 6 January, 2013 Share Posted 6 January, 2013 (edited) We played well in the first half. Really? The team selection was poor, at least one more striker needed, back to the early season keeping possession going nowhere. The goal if I remember was Boruc to Cork, ball forward won by Puncheon immediately swept into the left channel and finished by Rodriguez. Totally in contrast to the rest of the play. The three central midfielders just played negatively, closed down but when in possession boringly negative. Has Davis ever made a tackle in his career? The three midfielders seem obsessed with possession, sideways and backwards, then in the second half lost the tempo, stopped closing down and were pulled all over the place by Chelsea. We brought on DeRidder, for Gods sake why? He is a quick runner, every time he started a run, the midfielders, especially Davis just took two or three touches, two or three looks around then played a square ball to somebody. It was the same with Puncheon and Rodriguez, they made runs but had to check out when the ball wasn't put through. If DR is brought on, the ball has to be delivered early to give him the opportunity to run the full back. I felt sorry for the lad, he is trying but getting no help or service. We improved immeasurably by getting the ball forward quicker in recent games, which is the way we will stay up, not playing count the passes. Chelsea did this but with a quality we can't match as long as we just stand off and watch. If Boruc is the answer, I'd love to know what the question is. Spot on...saved me typing.. Well done coach;) Love it when some come on and say ..so and so has made 5 million passes in the stats....but not one goal assist. BOLLLLUX COYS:D PS Not sure re Boruc yet.....the other two no better really... Edited 6 January, 2013 by ottery st mary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkadill Posted 6 January, 2013 Share Posted 6 January, 2013 any one mention the Chelsea fans shaming us with there singing, thought i was at Stamford bridge on Saturday? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewy Posted 6 January, 2013 Share Posted 6 January, 2013 Does anyone else think there's an argument for allocating a champions league spot to the cup winners? In the grand scheme of things I think giving up on this game was the right thing for us, staying up has got to be priority number one, as evidenced by countless other clubs over the last few seasons. But if success meant a champions league spot, surely this antipathy would disappear? Plus it would also mean a greater chance of the 4 English clubs being mixed up a bit more. I think the league is the best barometer of better sides, but as the oldest (and until fairly recently) best club competition in the world, surely we can make an exception for the cup? I just think its sad how all but a handful of clubs give up on the cup nowadays Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 6 January, 2013 Share Posted 6 January, 2013 any one mention the Chelsea fans shaming us with there singing, thought i was at Stamford bridge on Saturday? I think there is about 2 other threads about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 6 January, 2013 Share Posted 6 January, 2013 What an arrogant post. We contribute the same as you, and are as entitled to post our general opinions and reactions to a result as much as you. Yes, we post something persistently, because there is a game every week ( ) and its the same old b*ll*cks - totally out-classed in a game or making a good start, getting our noses in front and either giving it away or not having enough to hold out or extend the lead. Grow up and accept the fact that not everyone agrees with you, some can see fundamental issues, and that doesnt make them trolls. Rare compliment from me.... You can't possibly be stupid enough to believe what you write, and continue to write even when constantly proved wrong. You can't possibly still fail to understand transfer windows. I know many think you are a skate on wind up, I don't, I think you support and care about saints. Only explanation I can see is that you enjoy your notoriety and playing pantomime villain...some would call that trolling. Surely this must be it...you can't be that stupid, can you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 6 January, 2013 Share Posted 6 January, 2013 (edited) I haven't read the previous 500-odd posts to see what other people thought, but the one good thing I took from that game .....was the coolness of Jay Rod's finish. He may have been a trifle lucky with his tap-in (or was it chest-in) in the Stoke game, but his goal on Saturday was real class...and what a good pass from Puncheon. Are we actually going to see an " in-form " JayRod in the coming weeks..? .(given the chance) Edited 6 January, 2013 by david in sweden Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 7 January, 2013 Share Posted 7 January, 2013 (edited) Rare compliment from me.... You can't possibly be stupid enough to believe what you write, and continue to write even when constantly proved wrong. You can't possibly still fail to understand transfer windows. I know many think you are a skate on wind up, I don't, I think you support and care about saints. Only explanation I can see is that you enjoy your notoriety and playing pantomime villain...some would call that trolling. Surely this must be it...you can't be that stupid, can you? Oh, the irony of questioning my intelligence... We have known the squad shortcomings for MONTHS, so its safe to assume that the club management know them too (otherwise we have bigger problems with going forward than this season...) Why does the effort of identifying targets, preparing proposals, clearing the way on the financials, not start until the window opens ? The club should have a target list based on weak positions, back up targets should the clubs or individuals not agree to terms, numbers for fees and pay they are willing to go to, and this work should have been done weeks ago. Then, when the window opens, the club should have been making the phone lines coming out of SMS glow red-hot, going through the target and back-up lists. If enough preparation had been done, I am 1000% certain this club would have a new CB by now. But no, the club is playing clever-d*ck games, trying to scrimp a few 100Ks on million-pound deals, despite risking a PL berth worth tens of millions. If you really believe that transfer deals all have to be as complex as Gaston, when it is as plain as the nose on your face that its money that talks, as exemplified with the zero-fuss lightning speed by which Chelsea were able to sign Ba in good time to destroy us, than I contend it is YOU who has the intelligence problem. Edited 7 January, 2013 by alpine_saint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Professor Posted 7 January, 2013 Share Posted 7 January, 2013 I did agree with Adkjins that for 30 mins our possession play and close passing was as good as any I've seen, but it didn't lead to goal chances, the one goal we scored coming from an upfield kick and a break. WShen Chelsea began attacking they filled out area with players, so that our defenders were often outnumbered in our own goal area. At times we looked as far apart from Chelsea as Hastings looked from Middlesborough on TV later on. True, we didn't have all eleven of our first choice players but you can't survive in the prem if you rely on the same 11 every time. Adkins needs more international quality available, he desparately needs at least 2 more back four defenders and some players we regard as quite good, eg., need to be replaced with better. But there is an alternative. Play our football in the Championship with the occasional couple of yo-yo seasons, as now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 7 January, 2013 Share Posted 7 January, 2013 Rare compliment from me.... You can't possibly be stupid enough to believe what you write, and continue to write even when constantly proved wrong. You can't possibly still fail to understand transfer windows. I know many think you are a skate on wind up, I don't, I think you support and care about saints. Only explanation I can see is that you enjoy your notoriety and playing pantomime villain...some would call that trolling. Surely this must be it...you can't be that stupid, can you? Judging by his reply I think the answer is a simple yes... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 7 January, 2013 Share Posted 7 January, 2013 Judging by his reply I think the answer is a simple yes... Hush now, troll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 7 January, 2013 Share Posted 7 January, 2013 But no, the club is playing clever-d*ck games, trying to scrimp a few 100Ks on million-pound deals, despite risking a PL berth worth tens of millions. If you really believe that transfer deals all have to be as complex as Gaston, when it is as plain as the nose on your face that its money that talks, as exemplified with the zero-fuss lightning speed by which Chelsea were able to sign Ba in good time to destroy us, than I contend it is YOU who has the intelligence problem. I reckon it might be the other way round, like sometimes it's the selling club stalling as they try and flush out bigger bids from other interested parties and what not. The Ba deal was different cos Chelsea was activating a transfer clause in his contract and there was nothing Newcastle could do bout it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 7 January, 2013 Share Posted 7 January, 2013 I reckon it might be the other way round, like sometimes it's the selling club stalling as they try and flush out bigger bids from other interested parties and what not. The Ba deal was different cos Chelsea was activating a transfer clause in his contract and there was nothing Newcastle could do bout it. Which means Chelsea agreed to a valuation Toon allowed in his contract - 1 stumbling block removed by Chelsea being prepared to pay out for what he could bring to the team. Which means Chelsea quickly agreed to the personal terms Ba was expecting - 2nd stumbling block removed by Chelsea being prepared to pay out for what he could bring to the team. So, the question beckons : how serious are we about holding on to our PL place, or dont we have the money necessary to do so ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 7 January, 2013 Share Posted 7 January, 2013 Which means Chelsea agreed to a valuation Toon allowed in his contract - 1 stumbling block removed by Chelsea being prepared to pay out for what he could bring to the team. Which means Chelsea quickly agreed to the personal terms Ba was expecting - 2nd stumbling block removed by Chelsea being prepared to pay out for what he could bring to the team. So, the question beckons : how serious are we about holding on to our PL place, or dont we have the money necessary to do so ? Comparing what Chelsea did for Ba is pointless. As others have said, he had a 7M buy out clause so no negotiation between the clubs needed. Plus they are Chelsea, not Saints and can offer far bigger wages than us. In fact, the first negotiations with Ba broke down for a couple of days so even that one was completely smooth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 7 January, 2013 Share Posted 7 January, 2013 Comparing what Chelsea did for Ba is pointless. As others have said, he had a 7M buy out clause so no negotiation between the clubs needed. Plus they are Chelsea, not Saints and can offer far bigger wages than us. In fact, the first negotiations with Ba broke down for a couple of days so even that one was completely smooth. Right, so now we cut to the chase. Despite the slavation and resurrection from Markus and Nicola, we cannot expect to compete at this level. We simply do not have the weight we need in the transfer market to secure the players we need to make progress. Once everyone comes to terms with that particular frustration, we will be a happier club. Maybe there is something in Daleks "yo-yo" argument. Too big for the NPC, too small for the PL. Personally in that case, I'd rather we whupped arse in the NPC every week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 7 January, 2013 Share Posted 7 January, 2013 Right, so now we cut to the chase. Despite the slavation and resurrection from Markus and Nicola, we cannot expect to compete at this level. We simply do not have the weight we need in the transfer market to secure the players we need to make progress. Once everyone comes to terms with that particular frustration, we will be a happier club. Maybe there is something in Daleks "yo-yo" argument. Too big for the NPC, too small for the PL. Personally in that case, I'd rather we whupped arse in the NPC every week. Shouldn't have replied to you if all you were planning on doing is more trolling. We can't compete with Chelsea, City, Utd, Arsenal, Spurs for transfers but we can, do and have competed against the rest of the prem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 7 January, 2013 Share Posted 7 January, 2013 Shouldn't have replied to you if all you were planning on doing is more trolling. We can't compete with Chelsea, City, Utd, Arsenal, Spurs for transfers but we can, do and have competed against the rest of the prem. You know you're conversing with a moron when he uses Dalek as a back-up. That's the point you bail from it; its like trying to reason with a small child. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 7 January, 2013 Share Posted 7 January, 2013 Shouldn't have replied to you if all you were planning on doing is more trolling. We can't compete with Chelsea, City, Utd, Arsenal, Spurs for transfers but we can, do and have competed against the rest of the prem. Liverpool ? Everton ? Stoke ? Newcastle ? We "compete" with them, do we ? If you are happy with the zero-ambition d*ck waving of 16th or 17th place, good luck to you. I dont believe staying in the PL is a satisfactory end in itself. What's the point in it ? Many Saints fans, even on here, have indicated that the previous 2 seasons were some of their happiest supporting Saints. The odd upset over Manyoo or Liverpool of our previous PL period seems a dim and distant memory... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 7 January, 2013 Share Posted 7 January, 2013 You know you're conversing with a moron when he uses Dalek as a back-up. That's the point you bail from it; its like trying to reason with a small child. You have nothing of value to add to the discussion, so keep the abuse to yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 7 January, 2013 Share Posted 7 January, 2013 You know you're conversing with a moron when he uses Dalek as a back-up. That's the point you bail from it; its like trying to reason with a small child. Indeed. Even Dalek is only backing up Alpine as part of one of his hilarious trolling campaigns. I used to think that Alpine was just a very insecure saints fan with a warped view on all things saints. More and more I'm starting to think that he's actually just a troll. How can you go from referencing the Demba Ba deal to Saints not being cut out to compete in the transfer market at all in a couple of posts and be serious about it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 7 January, 2013 Share Posted 7 January, 2013 Liverpool ?- Yes- seemingly they were interested in Ramirez and we have out bid them for Astori so farEverton ? Yes Stoke ? Yes Newcastle ? Yes We "compete" with them, do we ? If you are happy with the zero-ambition d*ck waving of 16th or 17th place, good luck to you. I dont believe staying in the PL is a satisfactory end in itself. What's the point in it ? Many Saints fans, even on here, have indicated that the previous 2 seasons were some of their happiest supporting Saints. The odd upset over Manyoo or Liverpool of our previous PL period seems a dim and distant memory... The rest of your reply doesn't even merit a reply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 7 January, 2013 Share Posted 7 January, 2013 You have nothing of value to add to the discussion, so keep the abuse to yourself. Its not abuse, just pointing something out to Dig Dig. I wasn't even talking directly to your trolling self. Troll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 7 January, 2013 Share Posted 7 January, 2013 Indeed. Even Dalek is only backing up Alpine as part of one of his hilarious trolling campaigns. I used to think that Alpine was just a very insecure saints fan with a warped view on all things saints. More and more I'm starting to think that he's actually just a troll. How can you go from referencing the Demba Ba deal to Saints not being cut out to compete in the transfer market at all in a couple of posts and be serious about it? Troll, troll, troll. Everyone who doesnt see your blinkered view of supporting Saints is a troll. How completely lacking self-awareness you are, seeing as what you are doing is the real trolling around here. The Ba deal, compared to our pratting about in the transfer market, is the perfect example to demonstrate the gulf between us and the powers of the PL. Money talks, and we are second-rate. Therefore we employ a niggardly aggravating approach to transfer activity which almost certainly leads to most targets lost. You really need to deal with this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 7 January, 2013 Share Posted 7 January, 2013 Its not abuse, just pointing something out to Dig Dig. I wasn't even talking directly to your trolling self. Troll. Deary me. So if I write to DD that "Kraken is a complete pr*ck", that isnt abuse ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 7 January, 2013 Share Posted 7 January, 2013 Deary me. So if I write to DD that "Kraken is a complete pr*ck", that isnt abuse ? Troll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 7 January, 2013 Share Posted 7 January, 2013 Troll. Clearly self-awareness is not one of your strengths either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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