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We are so going down.

 

We simply arent good enough to compete at this level. And chances are our defence is about to be thrown back into turmoil. And our management are playing latter-day Neros or clever-clever d*cks so we will fail to reinforce in this window.

 

Based on what? This is an FA cup game where we played our reserves and before we have strengthened the squad in the transfer window. We may well go down but I would argue that that will mainly be down to our rubbish start where we took ages to get to grips with the league. Saying 'we are so going down' in January when we aren't even in the relegation zone at the moment (and could even be clear if we win next week) is idiotic and will just make you look even more cretinous if we stay up. Not sure why I bothered trying to talk to you sensibly but there you go.

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Oh, I thought Chelsea were a fellow PL team, who in fact we face in the league in the next couple of weeks.... :rolleyes:

 

Erm sort of a massive difference between a cup game and a league game, especially because everyone knows our reserves are shockingly poor. Villa lost 8-0 earlier in the year yet are still staying up as it stands. Imagine your reaction had we done the same. Troll.

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Thought Guly was one of the best of a bad bunch today. People moan at Guly because they know it won't be controversial. The bloke doesn't deserve it whatsoever. P.s fair play to him getting to 100apps for us!

 

Well, I've backed Guly on numerous occasions, but today, he was truly woeful.. but its Chelsea nad we can write off games against their best side. Just move on..

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Boruc had no chance with any of the 5 goals! To blame him is just pathetic!

 

Yoshida and Fonte struggled with Ba today, and the movement of the 3 behind him unsurprisingly caused us issues. Cork needs to play CM with Morgan, Davis and JWP not strong enough and headless chickens most of the time!

 

We need Clyne back fit, Cork back in the middle and two signings of a CM and CB (especially in Fonte's potential lengthy absence)! All the slating of Guly, De Ridder and Lee is pathetic, none have barely had a kick this season and the later have invariably been given 10-15 mins to get into a game for the first time in 6 months to a year.

 

Keep the faith guys! I still think with our best side out and a couple of strong Jan reinforcements we can stay up! Which is all we should ever have been looking to do anyway! Who gives a ****e about the FA CUP!

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Fonte's injury is gutting, really sorry for him but it looks pretty serious. We were never going to win this but I admit the manner of defeat doesn't do our confidence much good. Flat atmosphere and the mass exodus of so called "fans" 10 minutes before the end ****ed me off. We need to make some signings now, I'd say at least 3.

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We are so going down.

 

We simply arent good enough to compete at this level. And chances are our defence is about to be thrown back into turmoil. And our management are playing latter-day Neros or clever-clever d*cks so we will fail to reinforce in this window.

 

Entirely predictable moronic post.

 

I notice you were surprisingly silent last week when we outplayed Arsenal (who, last time I checked were also a fellow Premier League team).

 

If we were competing with the likes of Chelsea to stay in the league then we'd all have to agree with you, but we aren't.

 

Villa lost 8-0 at Stamford Bridge, but I bet you don't think they are 'so going down'

 

We didn't have our best side out today, they did and we got spanked - but the score line was made to look flattering by some pretty dubious reffing.

 

We will strengthen, we will play our best side and we will stay up...there are comfortably three worse teams than us in the league (but I'm guessing you didn't actually think about that when you wrote your post).

 

CHANGE THE RECORD

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Entirely predictable moronic post.

 

I notice you were surprisingly silent last week when we outplayed Arsenal (who, last time I checked were also a fellow Premier League team).

 

If we were competing with the likes of Chelsea to stay in the league then we'd all have to agree with you, but we aren't.

 

Villa lost 8-0 at Stamford Bridge, but I bet you don't think they are 'so going down'

 

We didn't have our best side out today, they did and we got spanked - but the score line was made to look flattering by some pretty dubious reffing.

 

We will strengthen, we will play our best side and we will stay up...there are comfortably three worse teams than us in the league (but I'm guessing you didn't actually think about that when you wrote your post).

 

CHANGE THE RECORD

 

No he wasn't! Even then he was an absolute negative bellend saying we should have won and claiming that the opposition doesn't matter. He is a joke.

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No he wasn't! Even then he was an absolute negative bellend saying we should have won and claiming that the opposition doesn't matter. He is a joke.

 

Should have beaten Arsenal yet we aren't good enough and are 'so going down'...nothing like consistency eh?

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No he wasn't! Even then he was an absolute negative bellend saying we should have won and claiming that the opposition doesn't matter. He is a joke.

 

The guy is a complete goon. Worse than anyone else on here. Opinions with no factual foundation, clearly lacking an awareness of football and every bone in his body is negative. If football gave me that little joy I wouldn't bother watching anymore. Consistently makes crass comments that come back to haunt him.

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The last time Davis and JWP played centre mid we got torn a new one by Everton. Either one plays or the other but we badly need better in the centre of midfield, I'd be all over Spurs for Huddlestone

 

If I'm honest JWP isn't up to this standard as yet, maybe he will be but he isn't just now, really needs to add some bulk

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If someone had told me at 4.40 pm on 1st May 1976 that a day would come when I wouldn’t be too bothered about being knocked out of the FA Cup, I would have dismissed them as a complete lunatic. The demise of what was once the greatest club competition in world football is truly sad.

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How Chelsea lost to. QPR is mind boggling . Why Benitez played a stronger side today than in the league!!!

 

he knows they won't win the League, just need to finish 3rd or 4th. FA Cup is a definite trophy to win. League Cup, Europa League,FA Cup, 3rd in the PL, might get him the job..doubt it though.

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I am sick to death with clubs taking the **** out of fans. If you not going to beat the opposition anyway and have that attitude then pull out of the game. Or let season ticket holders in for free and the rest for £5. This was a massive dissapointment, a total breeze for plastic chelsea. I cant remember in the 70s and 80s and 90s Saints deliberatley drying to get knocked out of cup games, what the ****s wrong with this club following other plastic clubs. What a waste of money, waht a waste of time. Block 36/35 emptied out with 19 mins to go, YES SOUTHAMPTON FC thats with 19 mins to go and that shows what a totall waste of space and time this game was. A pointless load of rubbish that will turn away the many kids and families that paid to go to the FA cup game. Its not a transfer window we need in Jan, its the doors, roof the whole bloody house. Chelsea took the **** today and so did the club.

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I didn't get to see today's game. Curious as to how Boruc did in goal. 5 goals says not great but anyone got a more analytical review which can give me piece of mind for villa away?

 

Jury still very much out. Dodgy first half, couple of fumbles, flapped at a cross that he was lucky to get away with, made a couple of good saves, throwing out very good, kicking so so, didn't get anywhere near any of the goals.

 

I still think he's an accident waiting to happen. For now he's also probably the best option we have.

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I didn't get to see today's game. Curious as to how Boruc did in goal. 5 goals says not great but anyone got a more analytical review which can give me piece of mind for villa away?

 

Spilled two easy saves midway through the first half; one of which missed the post by a whisker. Caught a couple of crosses ok. One very good save from a close range header and not at fault for the goals but might have got a more firm hand on the first to prevent it going past him. Wasn't a great performance, wasn't a terrible performance but there is clearly a confidence issue. We need a new keeper IMO.

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I thought Chelsea were magnificent.....Mata stood out, as did Ba. There were other notable perfomances, their number 7 was superb. Morgan was made to look ordinary...Davis looked poor. Our midfield was overrun.

 

There was some stunning passing, pace and ball control by Chelsea.

 

We chased the game

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I thought Chelsea were magnificent.....Mata stood out, as did Ba. There were other notable perfomances, their number 7 was superb. Morgan was made to look ordinary...Davis looked poor. Our midfield was overrun.

 

There was some stunning passing, pace and ball control by Chelsea.

 

We chased the game

 

Their number 7 was Ramires. He took a little while to adapt to this country, but is an amazing player. So strong, nimble, pacey. Can play through the middle, on the flanks or in behind. One of the best midfielders in europe at the moment.

 

You've got to hand it to them, there's not much we can do when we're up against what they had on offer and how they played.

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Well, I hope all those calling for a full strength team in the Build Up thread have now seen why that was a bad idea.

 

The result is irrelevant (apart from making some posters' day). The disaster is the injury to Jose.

 

Boruc kept it down to single figures even the biased taters admitted he made some good saves to keep us in it.

 

Everyone else on the pitch went home early. Stopped playing with any purpose or intensity once we went 1-0 up.

 

Oh and I WISH I had a fiver for every time I have heard a tater said Puncheon needs to lift his head up. Getting bored with it now

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It never fails to annoy me, all this guff about not caring about the cup in order to concentrate on a league in which we can only hope to scrape by in year after year. A good cup run is is important. Yes we had a very tough fixture, but we should have been at full strength and with full commitment. We were not and that is not acceptable.

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We fielded a weakened team. No Lallana, Clyne, Lambert, Ramirez...so it's our squad which is weak not our team.

 

I think he was referring to us being physically weak in the middle, which I do have to agree with. We could do with a Diame type player for sure.

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Should have beaten Arsenal yet we aren't good enough and are 'so going down'...nothing like consistency eh?

 

We should have beaten Arsenal

Today we were totally outclassed and lost a key player to injury which is going to make matters nigh on impossible considering our p*ss-poor transfer activity.

 

I see no inconsistency whatsoever in the two statements. We played well last week, this week it was a return to form.

 

But WTF, having been called up for your ridiculous bandwagon-jumping cliche that I was silent last week, I suppose attack is the best defence. :lol:

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Their number 7 was Ramires. He took a little while to adapt to this country, but is an amazing player. So strong, nimble, pacey. Can play through the middle, on the flanks or in behind. One of the best midfielders in europe at the moment.

 

You've got to hand it to them, there's not much we can do when we're up against what they had on offer and how they played.

 

I agree with all you say about Chelsea and thanks for the info on Ramirez....

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They wouldn't have made a difference!

 

This. the straw-clutching on here is pathetic yet entirely predictable.

 

But it is to be expected, seeing as everyone was thinking we were the finished article because we drew with a sh*t Arsenal team and now are having trouble dealing with their disappointment.

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Chelsea looked more like European Champions than when they won the Champion's League. Mata and Hazard are two of the best players you will see and there were plenty of other very good players in their team to admire. Sadly admiring the opposition was all we could do second half as we just couldn't seem to get near them. Taking Morgan off killed any chances we might have of competing in the midfield, which meant 40 minutes of chasing shadows. Such is life. We've come a long way in two years, but there is a long way to go if we are to compete at that level.

 

Boruc 6 kicking much better, although far less requirement. Throw outs really are excellent. Looks too casual to me, but better that than a rabbit in headlights. Yet to see him make a top class save. I assume he has that in him.

Cork 7 given a tough game by Moses (another player I like a lot) and then Marin, but he kept fighting till then end, which must be applauded. Where on earth did he disappear to for the third goal? Why are we playing him there though. Richardson has never let us down.

Yoshida 4 distribution was shockingly bad, which put us under tremendous pressure in the second half. Even with options he couldn't pass to one of his own. Didn't get tight enough either at times, but when he did he fouled. When stretched by quality strikers like Ba he does not impress.

Fonte 6 pretty decent game considering the relentless attacks. The third goal went in far too easy. The injury could hurt us badly as he has been in great form.

Shaw 6 very good first half, didn't seem to be able to get forward at all in the second.

Guly 5 OK out wide, but when given the attacking midfield role he supposedly played in Italy he was non existent. That free role demands much more. Neither he nor Ward Prowse offered nearly enough. Might as well have gone with an extra striker and booted it down the channels.

Davis 6 good first half but not good second

Ward Prowse 5 putting to one side he's only 17, he didn't have his best game. I thought he not Morgan should have been subbed. Knowing that he is 17 this was great experience for him.

Morgan 7 Thought he was having a very good game, our best player so to take him off when we went 1-3 down meant Adkins had given the game up.

Rodriguez 7 great first half, but with no service what could he do? Made a lot of runs and perhaps tired himself out. Needed help us there. Maybe bringing Lambert on and going long would have been better than adding de Ridders non pace.

 

Jos - won everything in the air. I' confident he will do a job next week now we need him. Time to get behind the lad.

de Ridder - usual busy stuff that led to nothing. Game was done by the time he came on to be fair.

Lee - he is not a right midfielder so why bother putting him out there? Get Reeves on and give him some more experience.

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This. the straw-clutching on here is pathetic yet entirely predictable.

 

But it is to be expected, seeing as everyone was thinking we were the finished article because we drew with a sh*t Arsenal team and now are having trouble dealing with their disappointment.

 

No-one thought that, you delusional wet blanket.

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Please can you all desist in quoting Alpine...he is on my ignore list and really don't want to read his drivel.

 

We lost badly with a weakened team to the current European Champions and current FA cup holders.

 

Oh, drop it with the persistent whining. Skip over a quote if you dont like it. Are you a big boy or not ?

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We should have beaten Arsenal

Today we were totally outclassed and lost a key player to injury which is going to make matters nigh on impossible considering our p*ss-poor transfer activity.

 

I see no inconsistency whatsoever in the two statements. We played well last week, this week it was a return to form.

 

But WTF, having been called up for your ridiculous bandwagon-jumping cliche that I was silent last week, I suppose attack is the best defence. :lol:

 

How can you even make a statement about our transfer activity 5 days into the window? That is completely ridiculous. And before you start, no our activity in the summer was not poor.

 

You stated that we are 'so going down' I would argue that in making that statement, you have seen enough in all our performances to make a prediction that relegation is inevitable...yet at the same time you are trying to say that the same team, should have beaten a team chasing the top 4. I would suggest that a team that 'should' have beaten one of the top 4 therefore 'should' beat a lot of the teams lower down the table hence doing enough to at least give them a chance of staying up...but of course you don't think like that.

 

And as for a thumping being a 'return to form' we haven't been thumped or outclassed like this at any point in the season other than at the Emirates..in all others we have at least been competitive and had a chance of getting something. In case you hadn't noticed, we are unbeaten in 4 in the league, a run which included difficult trips to stoke and fulham and a tricky home game with Arsenal (oh but of course that counts for nothing as we are clearly going down).

 

It is no wonder nobody on here takes you seriously.

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Not so bad, I seem to recall. I predicted a few draws and the rest defeats. And wow, f**k me, guess what ??

 

I am sure you can provide details.

As I said, delusional. And unlike most people when they make daft predictions, you can't even admit when you get things horredously wrong.

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How can you even make a statement about our transfer activity 5 days into the window? That is completely ridiculous. And before you start, no our activity in the summer was not poor.

 

Quite easily, old boy. We are fighting relegation because of persistent weaknesses since August. Resolving them with transfers, before 4 more games go by without wins, should have been straightforward. Theres been enough time to prepare during the closed window. Ba was signed by Chelsea in time to play today, and that was one of these oh-so-complex-multi-millon-pound deals...

 

You stated that we are 'so going down' I would argue that in making that statement, you have seen enough in all our performances to make predict that relegation is inevitable...yet at the same time you are trying to say that the same team, should have beaten a team chasing the top 4. I would suggest that a team that 'should' have beaten one of the top 4 therefore 'should' beat a lot of the teams lower down the table hence doing enough to at least give them a chance of staying up...but of course you don't think like that.

 

Oh deary me. First of all, Arsenal were outside the top 4 when we played. Secondly, they were sh*t last week. Thirdly, one good effort does not make a season. We have lost 19 points following taking the lead. Absolutely criminal. Your rationale is b*ll*cks.

 

And as for a thumping being a 'return to form' we haven't been thumped or outclassed like this at any point in the season other than at the Emirates..in all others we have at least been competitive and had a chance of getting something. In case you hadn't noticed, we are unbeaten in 4 in the league, a run which included difficult trips to stoke and fulham and a tricky home game with Arsenal (oh but of course that counts for nothing as we are clearly going down).

 

Who said anything about thumpings ? I am talking about losing points, even games, after taking the lead. So what we are unbeaten in 4 ? We are dropping home points more often than a whore drops her knickers, including Sunderland, which for me is crime of the season (or maybe that was Fulham home)

 

It is no wonder nobody on here takes you seriously.

 

Thats their choice. Me, I pity them that they are so unable to view things objectively.

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As I said, delusional. And unlike most people when they make daft predictions, you can't even admit when you get things horredously wrong.

 

No. Horrendously wrong is predicting 6-0 thumpings and winning 3-0. I did no such thing. A few defeats I predicted were draws. Still 2/3 of the points were dropped. But hey, you go exaggerate like a teenage girl.

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No. Horrendously wrong is predicting 6-0 thumpings and winning 3-0. I did no such thing. A few defeats I predicted were draws. Still 2/3 of the points were dropped. But hey, you go exaggerate like a teenage girl.

 

Why do you have to lie? Just admit your mistake and move on. I thought Adkins would get sacked, happy to admit I was wrong about that.

 

http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?41038-The-Next-6-Games!!!&highlight=games

 

Going by what they were saying on Sky going through our games

as I think that the Next 6 games are Crucial to Our season tbh

and this is what I think will happen IMHO:

1). Sat 10th-Swansea-(H!)-Win/Draw!

2). Sat 17th-QPR-(A!)-Win/Draw!

3). Sun 25th-Newcastle-(H!)-Lose!

4). Wed 28th-Norwich-(H!)-Win/Draw!

5). Sat 1st-Liverpool-(A!)-Lose!

6). Sat 8th-Reading-(H!)-Win/Draw!

So I think that We will either get 12 points or 4 points in them games...!!!

What do You fans think will happen in these games!?!

 

I can see us drawing with QPR and losing the rest.

 

If we have no new manager by the QPR game our relegation is a certainty, imo.

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You actually just wrote that, didn't you!

 

I wish you would...

 

kind of like Walsall away as a result of which meant our play off hopes were hanging by a thread?

 

stfuayt :)

 

You terrify me.

 

Yes, alpine is a deluded muppet who posts nothing but complete nonesense. No sh*t guys, he's only been doing it for over 7 years and still you lot persist with actually talking to him. No matter how clever you feel point out he is wrong, it's not going to achieve anything. Ignore him, talk to the normal people about the game and if you can't do that, turn the computer off and do something else.

 

I am soooooooo sick of having to trawl through these utterly utterly pointless arguments every time our resident mountain dwelling fruitcake checks in. Please please please just DON'T talk to him.

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