Turkish Posted 16 January, 2013 Share Posted 16 January, 2013 On another note just done a bit of channel hoping and notice Steve Bull on the Jeremy Kyle show. They needed 3 sets of scales to weight him, he was 36 stone, 66.9 BMI over 50% bodyfat. Just remember, it could be worse.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokyo-Saint Posted 16 January, 2013 Share Posted 16 January, 2013 On another note just done a bit of channel hoping and notice Steve Bull on the Jeremy Kyle show. They needed 3 sets of scales to weight him, he was 36 stone, 66.9 BMI over 50% bodyfat. Just remember, it could be worse.......... That's the same as chocolate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brussels Saint Posted 16 January, 2013 Share Posted 16 January, 2013 On another note just done a bit of channel hoping and notice Steve Bull on the Jeremy Kyle show. They needed 3 sets of scales to weight him, he was 36 stone, 66.9 BMI over 50% bodyfat. Just remember, it could be worse.......... Christ, he must have let himself go a bit since leaving Wolves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spudders Posted 16 January, 2013 Share Posted 16 January, 2013 On another note just done a bit of channel hoping and notice Steve Bull on the Jeremy Kyle show. They needed 3 sets of scales to weight him, he was 36 stone, 66.9 BMI over 50% bodyfat. Just remember, it could be worse.......... I hope that was the repeat of when he was on last summer and not a new one with him coming back to show everyone how much he'd lost (gained) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 16 January, 2013 Share Posted 16 January, 2013 I hope that was the repeat of when he was on last summer and not a new one with him coming back to show everyone how much he'd lost (gained) Yeah it was. Him crying on there about how disgusting he looks. You're not wrong mate. I'm sure he got given a free membership to David Lloyd when he was our "celebrity fan" for a while back in the early 00s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spudders Posted 16 January, 2013 Share Posted 16 January, 2013 Probably do a nice basket of chips & burger in the David Lloyd bar after a tough 10 minute slow walk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spudders Posted 16 January, 2013 Share Posted 16 January, 2013 (edited) Right I’ll get on board with logging the details on here as well: Motivations: Having to start wearing my larger clothing again and can only fit into a few of my work shirts now (a moot point at the moment). Running the London marathon in April Started exercising again over Christmas period Age: 38 Starting Weight: 13st 8 Target Weight: 11st ish (more a case of wanting to get rid of fat and trim up rather than be a specific weight) Height: 5ft 8 BMI: Can’t be arsed to work it out Tactics Used: My fitness pal app - Runners world marathon training programme for sub 3h finish. Weigh In date: Saturday AM after morning dump Week 1 – Weight: 13st 8 Week 2 – Weight: 13st 2 (weekly loss 6lb) Week 3 – Weight: 13st 1 (weekly loss 1lb – poor but I know why!) Week 4 – Weight: 12st 9 (weekly loss 6lb) Week 5 – Weight: 12st 11(weekly gain of 2lb) not ran all week & had a week off of being healthy Edited 26 January, 2013 by Spudders Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 16 January, 2013 Share Posted 16 January, 2013 Right I’ll get on board with logging the details on here as well: Motivations: Having to start wearing my larger clothing again and can only fit into a few of my work shirts now (a moot point at the moment). Running the London marathon in April Started exercising again over Christmas period Age: 38 Starting Weight: 13st 8 Target Weight: 11st ish (more a case of wanting to get rid of fat and trim up rather than be a specific weight) Height: 5ft 8 BMI: Can’t be arsed to work it out Tactics Used: My fitness pal app - target of 1200 calories per day (which will increase as my training gets harder). Runners world marathon training programme for sub 3h finish. Weigh In date: Saturday AM after morning dump Week 1 – Weight: 13st 8 Week 2 – Weight: 13st 2 (weekly loss 6lb) Week 3 – Weight: 13st 1 (weekly loss 1lb – poor but I know why!) looks pretty incompatible to me actually. You should be losing weight anyway at around 2200 KCals if your programme is set to Sub 3, you should be on not less than 50 miles a week by now including some pretty shattering sessions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedg Posted 16 January, 2013 Share Posted 16 January, 2013 Week 1 – Weight: 13st 8 Week 2 – Weight: 13st 2 (weekly loss 6lb) Week 3 – Weight: 13st 1 (weekly loss 1lb – poor but I know why!) First week loss is mainly water in most cases I believe? As to why such a small change it could just be down to what you ate the night before. (ah just reread that you know why...) I always tend (or did before I made Friday one of my fast days) to use Saturday morning as my 'official' weighing time but also weighed myself friday morning as well in case, for example, had a 'heavy' meal friday evening. Would then use the lower of the two readings for my recorded weight. Also if you have electronic scales might be worth changing to Kg as usually you get a more accurate value as they usually measure to the nearest 100g whereas with pounds and stones you may only get to the nearest pound which is 450g. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 16 January, 2013 Share Posted 16 January, 2013 Right I’ll get on board with logging the details on here as well: Motivations: Having to start wearing my larger clothing again and can only fit into a few of my work shirts now (a moot point at the moment). Running the London marathon in April Started exercising again over Christmas period Age: 38 Starting Weight: 13st 8 Target Weight: 11st ish (more a case of wanting to get rid of fat and trim up rather than be a specific weight) Height: 5ft 8 BMI: Can’t be arsed to work it out Tactics Used: My fitness pal app - target of 1200 calories per day (which will increase as my training gets harder). Runners world marathon training programme for sub 3h finish. Weigh In date: Saturday AM after morning dump Week 1 – Weight: 13st 8 Week 2 – Weight: 13st 2 (weekly loss 6lb) Week 3 – Weight: 13st 1 (weekly loss 1lb – poor but I know why!) 1200 calories is ridiculous mate. You'll have no energy to train. If you were doing no excercise you could maybe get away with it, but if your training for a marathon then you're going to be in trouble if you dont increase your intake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 16 January, 2013 Share Posted 16 January, 2013 1200 calories is ridiculous mate. You'll have no energy to train. If you were doing no excercise you could maybe get away with it, but if your training for a marathon then you're going to be in trouble if you dont increase your intake. As I said. When I was running sub 2.30 marathons and training at about 70/80 miles a week I stuffed myself full of cakes,chocolate, energy boosters and the like all day and every day and I was still dropping kilos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spudders Posted 16 January, 2013 Share Posted 16 January, 2013 looks pretty incompatible to me actually. You should be losing weight anyway at around 2200 KCals if your programme is set to Sub 3, you should be on not less than 50 miles a week by now including some pretty shattering sessions. Yep I'll be upping the calories as I up the training and I am indeed already on about 50 miles a week, I've done it before following the same self inflicted guidlines (previous marathon time was 3h 14m & I could have knocked 10 minutes off that were it not for me starting the race in the wrong place due to a last minute dump that meant I almost missed the start so had to battle my way past everyone as I started near the back instead of pen 2, doh!!!) First week loss is mainly water in most cases I believe?.......Also if you have electronic scales might be worth changing to Kg as usually you get a more accurate value as they usually measure to the nearest 100g whereas with pounds and stones you may only get to the nearest pound which is 450g. Totally agree about the first week, my aim is to shift about 4lb a week over the coming weeks. I'm also weighing and tracking in both lbs & kg, just didn't add them here. 1200 calories is ridiculous mate. You'll have no energy to train. If you were doing no excercise you could maybe get away with it, but if your training for a marathon then you're going to be in trouble if you dont increase your intake. Agree, that's just been for the past few weeks, I will up the intake as required, but I'm currently pushing myself and managing it so all is ok so far. I’m lucky in that although I’ve put on weight over the past 9ish months, I’m still pretty fit underneath (if that makes sense) for example Christmas day I decided I needed to start getting back in shape so went out and ran 13 miles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedg Posted 19 January, 2013 Share Posted 19 January, 2013 My Saturday post weigh in update... Definitely losing weight on my 4:3 (like 5:2 but an extra days fast a week) as down 1kg on the week and now over half way to my target, though aim of getting there before my birthday looks remote but need another week really to try and get a better idea of rate. Know from last time I dieted that on the same diet amount lost each week reduces as you get closer to goal so though current line is just about pointing towards my goal its almost certainly going to diverge as I get closer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spudders Posted 19 January, 2013 Share Posted 19 January, 2013 My Saturday post weigh in update... What post number are your updates? I've looked through the whole thread three times and can't see it (my observational skills are clearly being impacted by my low calorie intake!) Just updated my weekly figure (post#108 ) and I'm 6lb down this week which I attribute to last weeks figure probably being a couple of lb out as I'd eaten and had a few beers on the Friday night before last weeks weigh-in). I've trained pretty hard this week running each day and been extremely focused on what I've been eating. As a few of you said earlier in the week my calorie intake was far too low and although it wasn't noticeably impacting my ability to train, I did notice during the daytime towards the end of the week I was struggling to think straight and concentrate at times which I think may have been related. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedg Posted 19 January, 2013 Share Posted 19 January, 2013 What post number are your updates? I've looked through the whole thread three times and can't see it (my observational skills are clearly being impacted by my low calorie intake!) Just updated my weekly figure (post#108 ) and I'm 6lb down this week which I attribute to last weeks figure probably being a couple of lb out as I'd eaten and had a few beers on the Friday night before last weeks weigh-in). I've trained pretty hard this week running each day and been extremely focused on what I've been eating. As a few of you said earlier in the week my calorie intake was far too low and although it wasn't noticeably impacting my ability to train, I did notice during the daytime towards the end of the week I was struggling to think straight and concentrate at times which I think may have been related. Not really got a post to update. I will add stuff to my first post on this thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
for_heaven's_Saint Posted 19 January, 2013 Share Posted 19 January, 2013 For an explanation of how and why fad dieting will have a detrimental effect in the long time, watch this video. It's a little bit 'American' and he takes a long time to say some stuff, but it explain why eating such low calories will do to your metabolism: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spudders Posted 19 January, 2013 Share Posted 19 January, 2013 Ultimately long term there is no substitute for generally eating healthy and getting regular exercise, that’s as simple/complicated as it needs to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Diamond Posted 19 January, 2013 Share Posted 19 January, 2013 Been on the cruise phase of the Dukan diet for a week, I've lost just shy of a stone. Not finding it hard to avoid carbs at all, I must say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
for_heaven's_Saint Posted 19 January, 2013 Share Posted 19 January, 2013 Ultimately long term there is no substitute for generally eating healthy and getting regular exercise, that’s as simple/complicated as it needs to be. Yes but if you watch the video or read up on it, you will see how the damage you can do in the short term can (and will) affect your ability to lose weight in the long term. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 19 January, 2013 Share Posted 19 January, 2013 Been on the cruise phase of the Dukan diet for a week, I've lost just shy of a stone. Not finding it hard to avoid carbs at all, I must say. Whats the DUkan diet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 19 January, 2013 Share Posted 19 January, 2013 Whats the DUkan diet? Eat nothing but protein for a spell, removing all vegetables, carbohydrates etc. Then reintroduce vegetables/fruit after a while. I believe that's it in a nutshell. I worry about the health effects of it, but it certainly does work and quite quickly (something to do with water retention...) A colleague of mine had a go at it, lost 2 stone but complained of feeling constantly tired. He was actually signed off work ill for a while with heart issues shortly after. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 19 January, 2013 Share Posted 19 January, 2013 Eat nothing but protein for a spell, removing all vegetables, carbohydrates etc. Then reintroduce vegetables/fruit after a while. I believe that's it in a nutshell. I worry about the health effects of it, but it certainly does work and quite quickly (something to do with water retention...) A colleague of mine had a go at it, lost 2 stone but complained of feeling constantly tired. He was actually signed off work ill for a while with heart issues shortly after. sounds like a glorifed version of the Adkins diet.Cant be good for you. You need lots of fruit and veg. Carbs fair enough, you can get them from veg if you want to cut down on them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Diamond Posted 19 January, 2013 Share Posted 19 January, 2013 sounds like a glorifed version of the Adkins diet.Cant be good for you. You need lots of fruit and veg. Carbs fair enough, you can get them from veg if you want to cut down on them. Well the first phase, which can last up to ten days, is strictly protein with 20 minutes exercise and 1.5l of water at least a day. The second phase is alternating a day of the above plus vegetables plus 30 mins of exercise, then just the protein again. Third phase reintroduces carbs including fruit, fourth you do what you want but one protein only day a week. I agree, anyone on it for a long time could open themselves up to trouble. I think you just need to be sensible. The tiredness thing is if you have a lot of sugar in your diet - i.e. drinking coffee every day. That's not been a problem for me at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spudders Posted 19 January, 2013 Share Posted 19 January, 2013 Yes but if you watch the video or read up on it' date=' you will see how the damage you can do in the short term can (and will) affect your ability to lose weight in the long term.[/quote'] I've just watched it through and it does make sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
for_heaven's_Saint Posted 20 January, 2013 Share Posted 20 January, 2013 I've just watched it through and it does make sense. Good Each to their own but sometimes short term gains will cause long term damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Diamond Posted 20 January, 2013 Share Posted 20 January, 2013 And that's a stone off, waheyyy. Now to have steak and vegetables Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedg Posted 22 January, 2013 Share Posted 22 January, 2013 Interesting article on BMI, especially for those of us on the tall side. Agree's with something I have thought which is that the square in the BMI is bias against taller people. To get to an normal weight using normal BMI I would been to get to about 89kg, with the new BMI calculation is 92kg. http://www.nydailynews.com/life-style/health/new-bmi-formula-fatter-article-1.1244317 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 23 January, 2013 Share Posted 23 January, 2013 second week lost a kilo, happy with losing that a week if I can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 23 January, 2013 Author Share Posted 23 January, 2013 According to the new BMI thing I am no longer Obese, I am just Overweight. Score!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedg Posted 26 January, 2013 Share Posted 26 January, 2013 Down 0.9kg this week. Less than last week due to not getting the same level of brisk walking due to the ice on the pavements plus some nice blueberry bakewell tarts I made.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Diamond Posted 26 January, 2013 Share Posted 26 January, 2013 Stayed in London this week and it's messed things up a treat. Didn't drink enough water, didn't get to go for a jog. Didn't stray away from the diet but still put weight on, it's taken me two days to get back down again, and even then not all the way. Pretty annoying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spudders Posted 26 January, 2013 Share Posted 26 January, 2013 ^ we should all agree that this week doesn't count! I've started a new job and been a bit lazy when I've got home, didn't run all week and ate a load of junk as well so put on 2lbs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustMike Posted 26 January, 2013 Share Posted 26 January, 2013 I want to put weight on! I eat loads but it just don't stick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spudders Posted 26 January, 2013 Share Posted 26 January, 2013 I want to put weight on! I eat loads but it just don't stick P!ss off skinny, your sort aren't welcome on this thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Diamond Posted 26 January, 2013 Share Posted 26 January, 2013 ^ we should all agree that this week doesn't count! I've started a new job and been a bit lazy when I've got home, didn't run all week and ate a load of junk as well so put on 2lbs I'm going to do two days protein only, resume the alternating diet on Monday - so yeah, this week didn't happen... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
for_heaven's_Saint Posted 26 January, 2013 Share Posted 26 January, 2013 I'm going to do two days protein only, resume the alternating diet on Monday - so yeah, this week didn't happen... Out of interest, when you say 'protein only' what sort of things do you mean? Surely you mean just no carbs, as it's near impossible to eat just protein with no fat (and this wouldn't help weight loss). Even whey protein powder contains fat and carbs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Diamond Posted 26 January, 2013 Share Posted 26 January, 2013 Out of interest' date=' when you say 'protein only' what sort of things do you mean? Surely you mean just no carbs, as it's near impossible to eat just protein with no fat (and this wouldn't help weight loss). Even whey protein powder contains fat and carbs.[/quote'] You're quite right, typical day for me: Dukan porridge oats (specially refined oats), so there's some carbs there. Sliced ham, chicken. Steak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
for_heaven's_Saint Posted 26 January, 2013 Share Posted 26 January, 2013 (edited) A mate of mine is a personal trainer and does a lot of writing for various fitness publications as well, particularly on nutrition. He really knows his stuff. For anyone interested here is a link to one of his articles on the ideal ratio of carbs: fat: protein for fat loss. http://www.steadyhealth.com/articles/the-ideal-ratio-of-carbs-and-fat-for-fat-loss-a2487.html Edited 26 January, 2013 by for_heaven's_Saint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
for_heaven's_Saint Posted 26 January, 2013 Share Posted 26 January, 2013 You're quite right, typical day for me: Dukan porridge oats (specially refined oats), so there's some carbs there. Sliced ham, chicken. Steak. Cool, sounds not dissimilar to my diet in terms of protein but mine has a fair bit more fat and carbs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Diamond Posted 26 January, 2013 Share Posted 26 January, 2013 Cool' date=' sounds not dissimilar to my diet in terms of protein but mine has a fair bit more fat and carbs.[/quote'] It does work. A stone lighter, with no craving for carbs and feeling as though I'm a lot more active tells me so. I think the fact I don't have to measure how much food I'm eating helps too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedg Posted 2 February, 2013 Share Posted 2 February, 2013 (edited) Down 1.2kg this week so still just about on track for my target. I have updated the graph on my main post to show current progress but will include it here as well... The red line was from my last diet about 4 years back, the blue line is the current diet, the purple blob is my target of having a normal (old school) BMI by my birthday. The flat section was Christmas and was almost certainly not flat but did not weigh myself for 3 weeks. Got used in parts to doing 4:3. On my restricted calories days I can now go through to 7 or 8 in the evening without eating anything. Main problem at the moment is waking up early the following day but intend to try and reduce my caffeine intake on fast days to see if that helps. Edited 2 February, 2013 by pedg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seaford Saint Posted 2 February, 2013 Share Posted 2 February, 2013 Weight this morning is 12 stonea 7 lbs A half a stone to go.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 11 February, 2013 Share Posted 11 February, 2013 Now sitting at 93.4 kilos...so pretty happy with that. Long way to go though. Sent from my HTC One X using Tapatalk 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonManager Posted 11 February, 2013 Share Posted 11 February, 2013 (edited) Now sitting at 93.4 kilos...so pretty happy with that. Long way to go though. Sent from my HTC One X using Tapatalk 2 ... Edited 11 February, 2013 by RonManager Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 11 February, 2013 Share Posted 11 February, 2013 (edited) Lost 5kg since NYD doing a version of 5:2 (more healthy eating (all 7) and cutting the sh.it out on the 2) Could do with losing another 2/3kg max. Edited 11 February, 2013 by View From The Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergei Gotsmanov Posted 11 February, 2013 Share Posted 11 February, 2013 I like the concept of the 5:2 because it is realistic. On a fast day what can you eat that is 600 calories. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Keith Posted 11 February, 2013 Share Posted 11 February, 2013 2 more pounds and i'll be bang on 5 stone since May 1st. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 25 March, 2013 Share Posted 25 March, 2013 Been a while since we've had any updates so how are we getting on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 25 March, 2013 Author Share Posted 25 March, 2013 Been a while since we've had any updates so how are we getting on? I've lost a stone so far, so not too bad considering I haven't been trying too hard recently. Still got 2 stone to go though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spudders Posted 25 March, 2013 Share Posted 25 March, 2013 After injuring my knee and then my back, I've mainly focused on carb loading over the past couple of months in perpetration for the marathon and successfully put back on the stone I lost (I like to challenge myself!). I'd like to postpone my place until next year but if I do it leaves my mate running it on his own (well technically there are thousands of people doing it so not on his own, but ya know what I mean), but I don't see the point in running it with almost no training. Need to decide pretty soon before the cut off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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