Thedelldays Posted 3 January, 2013 Share Posted 3 January, 2013 wonder if any saints players were polled.. http://fourfourtwo.com/news/england/116879/default.aspx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 3 January, 2013 Share Posted 3 January, 2013 Not surprised about the cocaine use given various stories about former Saints last time we were in the Prem, or the racism, or that 1/4 of players think a gay player would be "outcast". And of course all of them would say it would be someone else doing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 3 January, 2013 Share Posted 3 January, 2013 A surprisingly sensationalist story from 442. Only 100 players interviewed across all 4 English leagues and the SPL, and yet they open the article with this; A major FourFourTwo survey reveals that half of professional footballers think players use drugs. Another quote from later on - A top-flight striker also notes that "You do wonder – I've come up against a defender who wasn't the quickest one season and then like s**t off a shovel the next." Maybe the defender just lost weight, or had an off day the first time you played against him? I'm not saying none of this stuff goes on, in fact I'm sure it does. But this article seems to be trying to imply that football is riddled with drugs, racism, match fixing and homophobia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KelvinsRightGlove Posted 3 January, 2013 Share Posted 3 January, 2013 My cousin is a red top journo. She doesn't do sport, but is forever telling me about stories she hears, and more importantly pictures she sees of LOADS of Prem footballers 'getting on it'. She says that loads of them are on cocaine of a weekend. Saturday night after a game, off Sunday, pull a sickie Monday, out the system by Tuesday. She's shown me some pretty conclusive photo's, well, convincing enough at least. I won't name them, as I don't want to libel myself - but the list includes internationals & champions league players, as well as many others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 3 January, 2013 Share Posted 3 January, 2013 My favourite bit was: The survey reveals that 13 percent of players believe performance enhancers are used, with a further 19 percent neither agreeing nor disagreeing. So that's 13 players saying that they believe some players take performance enhancers with the rest either not sure or disagreeing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 3 January, 2013 Share Posted 3 January, 2013 What a load of s**te! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 3 January, 2013 Share Posted 3 January, 2013 what did the Secret Footballer say about all this ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
influx Posted 3 January, 2013 Share Posted 3 January, 2013 My favourite bit was: So that's 13 players saying that they believe some players take performance enhancers with the rest either not sure or disagreeing. Football focus were doing a feature on Reading the other week, and they were shown around the dressing room. And there was loads of Redbull and other energy gels there for any of the team to take. Surely they are performance enhancing?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 3 January, 2013 Share Posted 3 January, 2013 Football focus were doing a feature on Reading the other week, and they were shown around the dressing room. And there was loads of Redbull and other energy gels there for any of the team to take. Surely they are performance enhancing?! but not on the banned list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
influx Posted 3 January, 2013 Share Posted 3 January, 2013 but not on the banned list. I know. My point is, how do they come to a decision on what is or isnt banned?! Redbull contains some right dodgy ****, hence it being banned in the US. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 3 January, 2013 Share Posted 3 January, 2013 My favourite bit was: So that's 13 players saying that they believe some players take performance enhancers with the rest either not sure or disagreeing. I read it as 13% said yes, 19% were "neutral" and therefore 68% say it's a load of old borax. Or, as you've accurately identified, in a sample of 100, that's 13 players, 19 players and 68 players. It's not much of a sample anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 3 January, 2013 Share Posted 3 January, 2013 Football focus were doing a feature on Reading the other week, and they were shown around the dressing room. And there was loads of Redbull and other energy gels there for any of the team to take. Surely they are performance enhancing?! Lucozade is supposedly "performance enhancing. I always thought they differentiated on products that could have a harmful effect on those taking it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 3 January, 2013 Share Posted 3 January, 2013 I know. My point is, how do they come to a decision on what is or isnt banned?! Redbull contains some right dodgy ****, hence it being banned in the US. There's an approved list, which is constantly evolving, usually to add masking agents, etc. Plenty of debate around the various drug testing organisations about it too. The USADA and IOC have different ideas, and it's also difficult for clean athletes to ensure they don't accidentally break the rules : http://news.bbc.co.uk/winterolympics2002/hi/english/alpine_skiing/newsid_1885000/1885843.stm It may also not be news that players also get given cocktails of performance-enhancing drugs to get their bodies in peak condition and aid recovery, etc. There's nothing dodgy about it provided those substances aren't on the banned list. There's also a difference in taking of banned substances for personal use, and those for "cheating" via performance enhancement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 3 January, 2013 Share Posted 3 January, 2013 (edited) Prem / FL anti-doping statement here : http://www.epfl-europeanleagues.com/anti_doping_procedures.htm "The FA prohibits all the doping offences listed in the World Anti-Doping Agency code and applies all the sanctions laid down in the Code for those offences." The WADA code is here : http://www.wada-ama.org/Documents/World_Anti-Doping_Program/WADP-The-Code/WADA_Anti-Doping_CODE_2009_EN.pdf The actual (2012) Prohibited List is here : http://www.wada-ama.org/documents/world_anti-doping_program/wadp-prohibited-list/2012/wada_prohibited_list_2012_en.pdf Edited 3 January, 2013 by The9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 3 January, 2013 Share Posted 3 January, 2013 I know. My point is, how do they come to a decision on what is or isnt banned?! Redbull contains some right dodgy ****, hence it being banned in the US. didn't know Red Bull was banned in the US actually. I've certainly had some there. Took a long time to get approval in France because of the Taurine but as everybody was just getting it from Italy,Switzerland and Belgium and few were dropping down dead they eventually allowed sales of RB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
influx Posted 3 January, 2013 Share Posted 3 January, 2013 didn't know Red Bull was banned in the US actually. I've certainly had some there. Took a long time to get approval in France because of the Taurine but as everybody was just getting it from Italy,Switzerland and Belgium and few were dropping down dead they eventually allowed sales of RB. Oh I maybe wrong then. I read somewhere that Taurine had been banned coz it had been given to GI's during the Vietnam war and now there was loads of court cases pending due to Vets developing mental problems later in life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 3 January, 2013 Share Posted 3 January, 2013 Lucozade is supposedly "performance enhancing. I always thought they differentiated on products that could have a harmful effect on those taking it? It's to do with what's on the banned list, which is a combination of harmful and performance enhancing - there's a line somewhere between "adding sugar for more energy" and "blood transfusions". Seems unlikely that a major sponsor of the England Football Team would be a provider of a banned substance - even alcohol isn't banned in football competition per se. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 3 January, 2013 Share Posted 3 January, 2013 (edited) Oh I maybe wrong then. I read somewhere that Taurine had been banned coz it had been given to GI's during the Vietnam war and now there was loads of court cases pending due to Vets developing mental problems later in life. Taurine is everywhere in most normal diets, French government tried for years to prove it's nocivity but couldn't. If there was Vietnam vet evidence available to them then they would have seized upon it. They didn't want Red Bull because they're silly old fuddy duddies in the main. Viet Vets will blame anything and everything to embarass the DOD. Most of their problems are psychological(unsurprisingly),drug and clap related though. Edited 3 January, 2013 by Window Cleaner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 3 January, 2013 Share Posted 3 January, 2013 didn't know Red Bull was banned in the US actually. I've certainly had some there. Took a long time to get approval in France because of the Taurine but as everybody was just getting it from Italy,Switzerland and Belgium and few were dropping down dead they eventually allowed sales of RB. Wiki says : Taurine and glucuronolactone are normal body constituents and also naturally present in the human diet (e.g. scallops, fish, poultry and grain respectively). The European Food Safety Authority (EFSA) in its January 2009 opinion on the safety of energy drink ingredients concluded that the exposure to taurine and glucuronolactone at the levels presently used in energy drinks is not of safety concern. http://www.efsa.europa.eu/en/efsajournal/pub/935.htm Red Bull Cola was discontinued in the US in 2011 but the "regular" energy drink is still on sale. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Bull_Cola Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jones91 Posted 3 January, 2013 Share Posted 3 January, 2013 Anyone who gets bladdered on a school night is much worse than a footballer doing it a week before their next game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 3 January, 2013 Share Posted 3 January, 2013 (edited) Wiki says : Taurine and glucuronolactone are normal body constituents and also naturally present in the human diet (e.g. scallops, fish, poultry and grain respectively). The European Food Safety Authority (EFSA) in its January 2009 opinion on the safety of energy drink ingredients concluded that the exposure to taurine and glucuronolactone at the levels presently used in energy drinks is not of safety concern. http://www.efsa.europa.eu/en/efsajournal/pub/935.htm Red Bull Cola was discontinued in the US in 2011 but the "regular" energy drink is still on sale. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Bull_Cola Made quite a lot of cash out of Red Bull actually. Used to load up on it in Maxi GB near Brussels every time I was up there and sell it to a local'ish nightclub in Lyon. Nearly every Belgian and Italian trucker was flooding French "boites de nuit" with the stuff. My place was illicitly importing nigh on 1000 cans a week. Consumption wasn't illegal, just general sale. Then again the French are funny about things like that, can't buy Aspirins and fags in supemarkets and filling stations here. Edited 3 January, 2013 by Window Cleaner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 3 January, 2013 Share Posted 3 January, 2013 Anyone who gets bladdered on a school night is much worse than a footballer doing it a week before their next game. How do you mean ? In terms of "ability to perform" ? Pretty sure the person's age and recovery rate would come into it as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 3 January, 2013 Share Posted 3 January, 2013 Made quite a lot of cash out of Red Bull actually. Used to load up on it in Maxi GB near Brussels every time I was up there and sell it to a local'ish nightclub in Lyon. Nearly every Belgian and Italian trucker was flooding French "boites de nuit" with the stuff. My place was illicitly importing nigh on 1000 cans a week. Consumption wasn't illegal, just general sale. That gets a mention on the Wiki page, as it happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 3 January, 2013 Share Posted 3 January, 2013 That gets a mention on the Wiki page, as it happens. Red Bull was firmly part of French folklore in the 90s early 2000s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lloydie Posted 3 January, 2013 Share Posted 3 January, 2013 I know. My point is, how do they come to a decision on what is or isnt banned?! Redbull contains some right dodgy ****, hence it being banned in the US. Its not banned in the US, but hey don't let facts ruin a good arguement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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