Tonights Games

[VectisSaint]

But but but. Redcrap is a terrible manager who bankrupts teams and doesnt have a clue what he is doing, this can't be right.

Absolutely right. Joe Jordan on the other hand...

[Saint Charlie]

Redknapp: 'We might take the lad who has been training with us, Tal Ben Haim'.

[S-Clarke]

Redknapp: 'We might take the lad who has been training with us, Tal Ben Haim'.

 

lol holy ****. Signing of a team on the brink!

[Doctoroncall]

March and April will be massive for them; 8 league games, and 7 of them against teams that occupy the current bottom 8 along with QPR. By then they should have bedded in some new signings and could well be well on their way to safety. That's how I see it anyway.

 

They are in the same position as they were when they went down in 2009, two points above the relegation zone and too good to go down. I suppose Pardew is an advantage over Shearer for Manager though!

 

its going to be a nail biting end to the season that for sure.

[aintforever]

This is a terrible result for us, if anything because of the confidence it will give QPR.

 

5 points is nothing with half a season left to play.

[badgerx16]

This is a terrible result for us, if anything because of the confidence it will give QPR.

 

And of course our team won't take any confidence out of the Arsenal game, will they.

[Saint Charlie]

And of course our team won't take any confidence out of the Arsenal game, will they.

 

Not while we keep spuking leads.

[S-Clarke]

I hope our players don't lose their confidence and belief on the back of an opposition result, as much as some of our fans.

[Saint Charlie]

This is a terrible result for us, if anything because of the confidence it will give QPR.

 

5 points is nothing with half a season left to play.

 

Five points is nothing, there are teams above us too that are catchable.

[aintforever]

And of course our team won't take any confidence out of the Arsenal game, will they.

 

Of course they will, QPR getting confidence is still bad for us.

 

Also QPR beat a better team, away from home and didn't panic and boot the ball in their own net and blow it.

[Turkish]

Of course they will, QPR getting confidence is still bad for us.

 

Also QPR beat a better team, away from home and didn't panic and boot the ball in their own net and blow it.

 

Yes, that's exactly what happened.

[Saint J 77]

Mother Fu"ker Bl00dy QPR

[Saint Charlie]

Of course they will, QPR getting confidence is still bad for us.

 

Also QPR beat a better team, away from home and didn't panic and boot the ball in their own net and blow it.

 

And so far we have won double the matches they have, including one where we battered them at their own ground.

[CanadaSaint]

The "stugglers table" approach shows how volatile it all is.

 

We are currently 3.25 points behind Villa (they are -4.50 vs Target and we are -7.75).

 

If we lose at Villa Park the gap increase to 4.00 points. If we draw it shrinks to 1.00 points. If we win, we move ahead of them by 2.00 points.

 

And there are loads of similar situations ahead for all the potential relegation candidates, which now number at least 9 teams IMO. Damn near half of the division.

[JackFrost]

This is a terrible result for us, if anything because of the confidence it will give QPR.

 

5 points is nothing with half a season left to play.

 

Yep,

 

I said as soon as Redknapp took them over he'd keep them up, and I still think he will.

 

That said I think we'll stay up as long as we maintain our current form, we are a far better side than Reading and Villa at the moment and the key in the short term will be staying above Wigan and catching the likes of Sunderland/Fulham/Newcastle if they don't improve and sell Ba/possibly Norwich

 

I genuinely think any side from norwich downwards could potentially go down.

[aintforever]

And so far we have won double the matches they have, including one where we battered them at their own ground.

 

So what, I have watched enough relegation battles over the years to know that a result like this can turn the season around for QPR.

[Appy]

Of course they will, QPR getting confidence is still bad for us.

 

Also QPR beat a better team, away from home and didn't panic and boot the ball in their own net and blow it.

 

Is that last sentence serious?

[Crab Lungs]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AzqiPvGrkTo

[Graffito]

Of the other 7 sides in the bottom 8 only Fulham and QPR have gained on us over games played yesterday and tonight. Not a bad set of results for Saints. Added to which, recent Saints performances suggest we are on the up. Certainly not "disastrous". And of course we've gained on Wigan, Reading , Sunderland and Newcastle.

Edited 2 January, 2013 by Graffito

[aintforever]

Is that last sentence serious?

 

Chelsea are better than Arsenal, our own goal cost us 2 points. They are the facts

[Appy]

Chelsea are better than Arsenal, our own goal cost us 2 points. They are the facts

 

Well yes, but we didn't purposely kick it in our own net.

[Flyer]

I think its a bad result for Saints in more than one way. Obviously you didnt want QPR to get 3 points but Chelsea put out a very weak team thinking they would still win.

Now theres a much bigger chance they will play a stronger side when you play them.

 

Someone pointed out we play Spurs and City this month but we beat Spurs last year and after than something like 12 of the next 13 are against Villa, Stoke, Wigan Saints, Reading etc and the only big team played is Man U at home.

[Dig Dig]

So what, I have watched enough relegation battles over the years to know that a result like this can turn the season around for QPR.

 

Or in the long run make no difference at all. Plenty of sides who have got relegated have beaten a top side along the way as well.

[Dig Dig]

I think its a bad result for Saints in more than one way. Obviously you didnt want QPR to get 3 points but Chelsea put out a very weak team thinking they would still win.

Now theres a much bigger chance they will play a stronger side when you play them.

 

Someone pointed out we play Spurs and City this month but we beat Spurs last year and after than something like 12 of the next 13 are against Villa, Stoke, Wigan Saints, Reading etc and the only big team played is Man U at home.

 

Well you've done exceptionally well against all those sides already so you should be very confident.

[View From The Top]

I think its a bad result for Saints in more than one way. Obviously you didnt want QPR to get 3 points but Chelsea put out a very weak team thinking they would still win.

Now theres a much bigger chance they will play a stronger side when you play them.

 

Someone pointed out we play Spurs and City this month but we beat Spurs last year and after than something like 12 of the next 13 are against Villa, Stoke, Wigan Saints, Reading etc and the only big team played is Man U at home.

 

& you'll still be a sh.it, tinpot noddy club & you'll still go down.

[Turkish]

Or in the long run make no difference at all. Plenty of sides who have got relegated have beaten a top side along the way as well.

 

To be fair Blackburns win at Old Trafford last season transformed their season.

[DT]

Well yes, but we didn't purposely kick it in our own net.

True. If he'd tried on purpose, Guly would have missed. Arf.

[Appy]

true. If he'd tried on purpose, guly would have missed. Arf.

 

lololol rofl

[Appy]

I think its a bad result for Saints in more than one way. Obviously you didnt want QPR to get 3 points but Chelsea put out a very weak team thinking they would still win.

Now theres a much bigger chance they will play a stronger side when you play them.

 

Someone pointed out we play Spurs and City this month but we beat Spurs last year and after than something like 12 of the next 13 are against Villa, Stoke, Wigan Saints, Reading etc and the only big team played is Man U at home.

 

Sorry, where have you been these past few months?

[badgerx16]

QPR beat Chelsea's 2nd string, let's not read too much into it.

[aintforever]

Or in the long run make no difference at all. Plenty of sides who have got relegated have beaten a top side along the way as well.

 

That's why I used the word 'can' not 'will'. Could just be a fluke.

[Lighthouse]

The more I see of Saints the more I'm convinced we won't be relying on anyone else's results. Lots of good quality players and everyone seemingly believing in their ability at this level a bit more. Happy to admit if and when I'm wrong, but I don't see them going down and think they'll be safe before the final day.

 

 

I have faith too. We should have won the last 2 fixtures which were, on paper, very tough and I'd normally have expected 0 points. We didn't lose those leads through bad play, lack of confidence and bottling it like we did in 2005 a few times. 99 times out of 100 Jerome's shot would be setting off car alarms and Guly's deflection would spoon away for a corner or a throw in. With Yoshi's fairly concrete penalty appeal and Gaston's second wrongly disallowed, last night could well have been a 3-0 based on the performance and chances we had. We were to a large extent unlucky.

[SNSUN]

T lower half of the table is tighter than it may seem, even though QPR and Reading are 5 points behind, QPR can easily get out of it. I haven't seen enough quality about Reading to think they'll survive. This could be Wigan's year, but even they pull out important results. We can only concentrate on ourselves at this stage, and on getting as many points as we can. On MOTD they were talking about Norwich (for example) being safe. They're only 7 points ahead of us, and are are very catchable. Let's get the FA Cup out of the way and then those games against Villa, Everton and Wigan could have some important points in them for us. (United and City too, although anything is a bonus there!)

[shirleysfc]

A quick question to those who now think Redknap is the messiah and will keep QPR up: would you have taken him back here? If not then why not? If he can keep QPR up then surely he could also keep us up?

[The Kraken]

A quick question to those who now think Redknap is the messiah and will keep QPR up: would you have taken him back here? If not then why not? If he can keep QPR up then surely he could also keep us up?

 

I would have hated it had he come here, and would have gone to less games than I already do had he been appointed. But if he had come and been allowed to do things his way, he'd have kept us up with little trouble IMO.

 

But then I'm not someone who puts a huge amount of stock of playing in the Premier League in any case; I hope we stay up but I won't be too bothered if we go down either. So I'm very glad he's not here.

[Dig Dig]

In other news, good that Sunderland and Newscastle lost

[Saint_lambden]

"Control the controllables"

[studentsaint]

It's in our hands. Just goes to show that anyone can beat anyone on the day and those that say where are the points going to come from? The answer can't be predicted as long as you are a threat going forward.

[Sour Mash]

Absolutely massive result for QPR whichever way you look at it. Will give them a load of confidence which is one of the things they've really been lacking. We need to get one of these flukey wins.

[tajjuk]

No Cech, No Mata, No Cole, No Ramires, No Hazard, No Mikel.

 

Pretty sure if Arsenal had rested over half their first team we would have won comfortably.

 

AND Chelsea still had 58% possession and 23 shots.

 

QPR are still going down.

[colehillsaint]

I would have hated it had he come here, and would have gone to less games than I already do had he been appointed. But if he had come and been allowed to do things his way, he'd have kept us up with little trouble IMO..

 

Exactly my opinion too, (although I would have still pitched up for home games). Harry probably wouldn't have got to do things his way anyway, but the way we are heading will lead to a better stronger club in the long run.

[Wes Tender]

I think its a bad result for Saints in more than one way. Obviously you didnt want QPR to get 3 points but Chelsea put out a very weak team thinking they would still win.

Now theres a much bigger chance they will play a stronger side when you play them.

 

Someone pointed out we play Spurs and City this month but we beat Spurs last year and after than something like 12 of the next 13 are against Villa, Stoke, Wigan Saints, Reading etc and the only big team played is Man U at home.

Ah, I thought that you had forsaken us, but one win against a poor Chelsea and you're back. So what went wrong with this team of superstars, which were so good that hardly any of our players would get into your team? And I love your list of upcoming fixtures which presumably you believe is an easy one. Spurs, well that a foregone conclusion for you, as you beat them last year and somehow you overlook having to play Everton twice as well as Arsenal and Liverpool. Saints away will be an easy match for you, won't it, because you beat us at home, didn't you? Oh, sorry, you didn't. But also Swansea, Stoke and Norwich will not be pushovers. As for the other teams, they will be fighting for their lives, like QPR.

[tajjuk]

Ah, I thought that you had forsaken us, but one win against a poor Chelsea and you're back. So what went wrong with this team of superstars, which were so good that hardly any of our players would get into your team? And I love your list of upcoming fixtures which presumably you believe is an easy one. Spurs, well that a foregone conclusion for you, as you beat them last year and somehow you overlook having to play Everton twice as well as Arsenal and Liverpool. Saints away will be an easy match for you, won't it, because you beat us at home, didn't you? Oh, sorry, you didn't. But also Swansea, Stoke and Norwich will not be pushovers. As for the other teams, they will be fighting for their lives, like QPR.

 

Lol, very true. Their next three league games are Spurs (H), West Ham (A), Man City (H) no points there for me.

 

then Norwich at home is winnable, Swansea away is a loss as is Utd at home.

 

At best 3pts from the next 6 games for me.

[Doctoroncall]

But but but. Redcrap is a terrible manager who bankrupts teams and doesnt have a clue what he is doing, this can't be right.

 

 

You will not like this then... http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=ctWS52IA_JY&feature=youtu.be&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DctWS52IA_JY%26feature%3Dyoutu.be

[Cabrone]

I think its a bad result for Saints in more than one way. Obviously you didnt want QPR to get 3 points but Chelsea put out a very weak team thinking they would still win.

Now theres a much bigger chance they will play a stronger side when you play them.

 

Someone pointed out we play Spurs and City this month but we beat Spurs last year and after than something like 12 of the next 13 are against Villa, Stoke, Wigan Saints, Reading etc and the only big team played is Man U at home.

 

With a run in like yours you've definitely got a chance, no doubt.

 

If your confidence rises then I can see you getting a decent haul of points from the start of February onwards.

 

As I've thought from the very start, there is going to be a real scrap at the bottom and I wouldn't be surprised if the likes of Newcastle evn got sucked in.

[Window Cleaner]

I think its a bad result for Saints in more than one way. Obviously you didnt want QPR to get 3 points but Chelsea put out a very weak team thinking they would still win.

Now theres a much bigger chance they will play a stronger side when you play them.

 

Someone pointed out we play Spurs and City this month but we beat Spurs last year and after than something like 12 of the next 13 are against Villa, Stoke, Wigan Saints, Reading etc and the only big team played is Man U at home.

 

 

Didn't notice that Chesea's team was all that weak on paper but with Marin and Oscar it certainly lacked physicality.

Still QPR played pretty well and Harry's tactics were spot on. Luiz was pretty useless in CM contrary to his performance against Villa, then again MBia and Granero are in a different register to all those young crappers at Villa.

Edited 3 January, 2013 by Window Cleaner

[The Kraken]

Lol, very true. Their next three league games are Spurs (H), West Ham (A), Man City (H) no points there for me.

 

then Norwich at home is winnable, Swansea away is a loss as is Utd at home.

 

At best 3pts from the next 6 games for me.

 

Are you offering odds on that? I'd have a tenner they'll get more than 3 points in 6 games if you're offering?

[Dig Dig]

I think one thing we should all learn is that it's almost impossible to predict results over a 3-5 game stretch, it's almost futile.

[The Kraken]

I think one thing we should all learn is that it's almost impossible to predict results over a 3-5 game stretch, it's almost futile.

 

I don't know, Alpine was proved absolutely spot on with his 5-game predictions wasn't he?

[Dig Dig]

I don't know, Alpine was proved absolutely spot on with his 5-game predictions wasn't he?

 

 

Very true. Alpine can get away with it because he knows loads about football and is a Saints nut who wouldn't miss a minute of football. It's not as if most of his views are shaped by select comments on this forum or anything like that.