Lighthouse Posted 1 January, 2013 Posted 1 January, 2013 Not sure which team to put out for this. On the one hand confidence breeds confidence. On the other we have a faily thin squad and injuries to players like Gaston, Yoshi, Puncheon and Lambert would be a problem. I would rest a few players but not go with a complete reserve look. Boruc Frazer - Fonte - Hooiveld - Fox De Ridder - Davis - JWP - Guly JRod Lambert Something like that.
Spudders Posted 2 January, 2013 Posted 2 January, 2013 My memory is rubbish, but when was the last time Frazer Richardson played for us?
CanadaSaint Posted 2 January, 2013 Posted 2 January, 2013 Seldom have I approached the FA Cup with the kind of "whatever" attitude I have right now. Anything that even "might" cost us key players or, god forbid, our PL place is way the hell down on my priority list I'm afraid. Even if it "might" help us to become a better team.
Appy Posted 2 January, 2013 Posted 2 January, 2013 My memory is rubbish, but when was the last time Frazer Richardson played for us? Saturday at Stoke.
Spudders Posted 2 January, 2013 Posted 2 January, 2013 My memory is rubbish, but when was the last time Frazer Richardson played for us? Saturday at Stoke. oops thanks
trousers Posted 2 January, 2013 Posted 2 January, 2013 Boruc Clyne, Fonte, Yoshida, Shaw Cork, JWP Lee, Ramirez, Guly Rodriguez Subs: Davis/Gazza, Hooiveld, Schneiderlin. Reeves, Hoskins, Lambert, Puncheon
Tamesaint Posted 2 January, 2013 Posted 2 January, 2013 Seldom have I approached the FA Cup with the kind of "whatever" attitude I have right now. Anything that even "might" cost us key players or, god forbid, our PL place is way the hell down on my priority list I'm afraid. Even if it "might" help us to become a better team. I agree. Home to Chelsea must be a good time to see what the likes of Reeves and Hoskins are capabl e of. Similarly it would be nice to see Lee in the first team again.
Saint Charlie Posted 2 January, 2013 Posted 2 January, 2013 Chelsea are capable of handing out a thrashing, and will pick a strong team so we need to be careful.
david in sweden Posted 2 January, 2013 Posted 2 January, 2013 Not sure which team to put out for this. On the one hand confidence breeds confidence. On the other we have a faily thin squad and injuries to players like Gaston, Yoshi, Puncheon and Lambert would be a problem. I would rest a few players but not go with a complete reserve look. Boruc Frazer - Fonte - Hooiveld - Fox De Ridder - Davis - JWP - Guly JRod Lambert Something like that. Mmm. so you wouldn't give Jack Cork a chance against his old club, then ? He doesn't have to prove anything to me, but I think he'd have something to prove for himself....and show the Chelsea hierarchy..'
saintbob40 Posted 2 January, 2013 Posted 2 January, 2013 Mmm. so you wouldn't give Jack Cork a chance against his old club, then ? He doesn't have to prove anything to me, but I think he'd have something to prove for himself....and show the Chelsea hierarchy..' Not as part of a second string......give the lad a rest and have him ready to **** Villa.
St.Patrik Posted 2 January, 2013 Posted 2 January, 2013 I hope Shaw plays to make him Cup tied - if anyone really want to buy him in January they would not let him play this game I guess?
St Marco Posted 2 January, 2013 Posted 2 January, 2013 They have been playing a full strength side in the league cup and as current champions I expect they will do the same here. We need to play a full strength side or we will get battered. Makes no sense putting kids in against the European champions as they will be on the back foot as soon as the whistle blows. Getting stuffed will not teach them anything. We have one game in 10 days so plenty of time to rest up after this one. I think a good cup run would do the team the world of good.
VectisSaint Posted 2 January, 2013 Posted 2 January, 2013 Not sure which team to put out for this. On the one hand confidence breeds confidence. On the other we have a faily thin squad and injuries to players like Gaston, Yoshi, Puncheon and Lambert would be a problem. I would rest a few players but not go with a complete reserve look. Boruc Frazer - Fonte - Hooiveld - Fox De Ridder - Davis - JWP - Guly JRod Lambert Something like that. Personally I wouldn't risk Fonte, we have no real backup for him at the moment (except Yoshi). Might be better to play Yoshi and Hooiveld. I would also give Lee a run out.
Saint_clark Posted 2 January, 2013 Posted 2 January, 2013 (edited) I hope Shaw plays to make him Cup tied - if anyone really want to buy him in January they would not let him play this game I guess? I doubt that will even feature in anyones mind when thinking about signing Shaw. The only person I would consider resting is Lambert. Other than that, full strength. Edited 2 January, 2013 by Saint_clark
fanimal Posted 2 January, 2013 Posted 2 January, 2013 Agree with Saint Clark, Rickie has taken one hell of a battering in the games v Stoke and Arsenal, give him a breather until the last 25minutes v Chelsea maybe; Villa is by far the more important game.
onthemarch Posted 2 January, 2013 Posted 2 January, 2013 anyone know if this will be a decent crowd....really hope so
KelvinsRightGlove Posted 2 January, 2013 Posted 2 January, 2013 FA Cup is frankly a distraction this year. Was glad we got Chelsea, likely to go out either way. After so many games in a short space of time, give the first XI a few days off in prep for Villa next week. I'm sure some of the elder fans will say 7 days is enough to recover, etc etc and whilst they are probably right, it is what it is, and this is the modern game now - plus I would rather we didn't pick up any extra injuries/suspensions. If Boruc is going to be the new #1 maybe give him another start to try and gain some confidence.
Saint Charlie Posted 2 January, 2013 Posted 2 January, 2013 It will be pretty much a full team Agree - not many fringe players have earned a chance and we won't want to lose momentum with a 7-0 battering. They will pick a first choice team as Benitez wants to win it. There is still a week gap to Villa so tiredness won't come into it and re injuries people can get injured any time, in training or games. Would be a nice game for a new signing to figure but doubt we will see anyone til 25th Jan judging by previous windows.
KelvinsRightGlove Posted 2 January, 2013 Posted 2 January, 2013 don't see why we'd rest everyone. 4 Games in 10 days is a lot. We've looked lacklustre at times during these games. A proper break, will imo do the lads a world of good. Realistically, we are unlikely to have much joy against an inform Chelsea side, and even less likely to win the competition. The League needs to be our priority, so why risk anything?
jasoneuelllfanclub Posted 2 January, 2013 Posted 2 January, 2013 i think adkins will rest 3-4 players for this. he will want to protect the likes of shaw, clyne, lambert and maybe morgan. boruc richardson fonte yoshida fox cork davis guly puncheon ramirez rodriguez
KelvinsRightGlove Posted 2 January, 2013 Posted 2 January, 2013 i think adkins will rest 3-4 players for this. he will want to protect the likes of shaw, clyne, lambert and maybe morgan. boruc richardson fonte yoshida fox cork davis guly puncheon ramirez rodriguez I'd be wrapping Gaston, Yoshi & Fonte in cotton wool too to be honest.
Window Cleaner Posted 2 January, 2013 Posted 2 January, 2013 I'd be wrapping Gaston, Yoshi & Fonte in cotton wool too to be honest. seems to me Gaston dishes out more rough stuff than he takes. Lovely intimidation job on Wilshere yesterday. A true Uruguayan.
for_heaven's_Saint Posted 2 January, 2013 Posted 2 January, 2013 Let's not forget Villa also have a League Cup semi-final next Tuesday so our players are likely to be fresher than theirs regardless.
KelvinsRightGlove Posted 2 January, 2013 Posted 2 January, 2013 seems to me Gaston dishes out more rough stuff than he takes. Lovely intimidation job on Wilshere yesterday. A true Uruguayan. Good on him, after seeing the special attention he got from Fulham first hand I'm glad to hear it.
Griffo Posted 2 January, 2013 Posted 2 January, 2013 Hope we put out a full strength team. The FA cup still means something to me and would love to see us go on a run. The players have a whole bloody week to recover as well.
KelvinsRightGlove Posted 2 January, 2013 Posted 2 January, 2013 Hope we put out a full strength team. The FA cup still means something to me and would love to see us go on a run. The players have a whole bloody week to recover as well. Most years I totally agree, but is a good run more important than survival this year?
derry Posted 2 January, 2013 Posted 2 January, 2013 Adkins said last night there will be changes along with the usual select a team to win.
Griffo Posted 2 January, 2013 Posted 2 January, 2013 Most years I totally agree, but is a good run more important than survival this year? You could say that every season about survival/going for promotion etc.
Appy Posted 2 January, 2013 Posted 2 January, 2013 I'd love a cup run, can't see us beating them as they look very strong at the moment, just hope we don't do what we need against Leeds and have a proper go at it.
KelvinsRightGlove Posted 2 January, 2013 Posted 2 January, 2013 You could say that every season about survival/going for promotion etc. Possibly. But I really think that should we survive this year, which I think we will just about, then we should be ok from there on in. Another summer of strengthening with the increased TV money should see us safe from struggles for a while I think. Especially given the majority of our squad are young, and playing their first season in the Prem - so I think even without additions the team will be stronger next season. At this point cup runs can be looked at more seriously. Just my opinion of course.
Thedelldays Posted 2 January, 2013 Posted 2 January, 2013 Adkins said last night there will be changes along with the usual select a team to win. can see rodriguez, fox, davis.s starting maybe clyne if fit....if not richardson...can see cork playing (he will gagging to) we will probably get beat but you never know
KelvinsRightGlove Posted 2 January, 2013 Posted 2 January, 2013 Yet players often look rusty after a break rather than refreshed. Cork played every game last season, it's fewer games this season too. Far weaker saints sides and smaller squads gave the FA cup games a good go while fighting relegation. Seems a real shame to ditch the cups every season when cup football is the only real chance of success for clubs our size. All very fair points. Particularly the rustiness issue. Hate to be Adkins in this situ, probably damned either way.
Stubby Posted 2 January, 2013 Posted 2 January, 2013 There are several players who could use some more game time: Boruc, of course, plus J Rod, Fox, Jos, JWP, Richardson, SDR. We could most of these without greatly weakening the side.
Latvian Michael Owen Posted 2 January, 2013 Posted 2 January, 2013 Forget the FA Cup this year as we're unlikely to win it and don't need the build-up of extra games. Need to rest Fonte, Cork, Lambert, Puncheon etc on sat so they're ready for the massive game at Villa the week after.
tajjuk Posted 2 January, 2013 Posted 2 January, 2013 They have been playing a full strength side in the league cup and as current champions I expect they will do the same here. We need to play a full strength side or we will get battered. Makes no sense putting kids in against the European champions as they will be on the back foot as soon as the whistle blows. Getting stuffed will not teach them anything. We have one game in 10 days so plenty of time to rest up after this one. I think a good cup run would do the team the world of good. Entirely disagree. We aren't expected to beat chelsea anyway even with a full strength side. A good FA cup run is a distraction. We have a decent first 11 that has maybe shown that they can compete well in this league, 2 or 3 injuries though and we look a weaker team than Reading so we want to limit the amount of games the likes of Lambert, Shaw, Cork, Yoshida etc play. You are right though we don't want to get battered so 3 or 4 changes for me, not wholesale. Starts for Jay Rod, Mayuka, JWP, Richardson, then De Ridder, Hoiveld off the bench. This season is all about staying in the league, if we push on in future season we will then have a go in the cups. Let's not forget Villa also have a League Cup semi-final next Tuesday so our players are likely to be fresher than theirs regardless. That game is a real sticky wicket for Villa, do they play a full team with the carrot of a Wembley final but risk tired players/injuries for the crucial game against us, or rest a few players and get done over by League 2 Bradford, denting their low confidence even further.
Doctoroncall Posted 2 January, 2013 Posted 2 January, 2013 How long is Clyne out for? Should be back in full training this week so maybe to early for him.
Appy Posted 2 January, 2013 Posted 2 January, 2013 There are several players who could use some more game time: Boruc, of course, plus J Rod, Fox, Jos, JWP, Richardson, SDR. We could most of these without greatly weakening the side. Nearly all of them would greatly weaken the side.
Sour Mash Posted 2 January, 2013 Posted 2 January, 2013 Hopefully Clyne would be back and possibly even Lallana? Steve Davis needs game time. Play Guly, Ramirez hasn't played too much. Maybe rest one of out Cork/Schneiderlin. Should still be able to put out a strong team and give this a proper go.
Saint Charlie Posted 2 January, 2013 Posted 2 January, 2013 Hopefully Clyne would be back and possibly even Lallana? Steve Davis needs game time. Play Guly, Ramirez hasn't played too much. Maybe rest one of out Cork/Schneiderlin. Should still be able to put out a strong team and give this a proper go. Strongest Lallana rumours were of a 10 week lay off. Even if its less, the Cup game wouldnt be a priority to rush him back for I wouldn't have thought.
Sour Mash Posted 2 January, 2013 Posted 2 January, 2013 Strongest Lallana rumours were of a 10 week lay off. Even if its less, the Cup game wouldnt be a priority to rush him back for I wouldn't have thought. Yeah I know unlikely, but nothing remotely concrete re 10 weeks. If fit I'd play him, ideal chance for some match sharpness after a month out.
Lets B Avenue Posted 2 January, 2013 Posted 2 January, 2013 Yeah I know unlikely, but nothing remotely concrete re 10 weeks. If fit I'd play him, ideal chance for some match sharpness after a month out. He was seen at the weekend with Danny Fox and their families, in their local. He was still limping and when asked how long was he out, said " it will be 2/3 weeks at least."
hypochondriac Posted 2 January, 2013 Posted 2 January, 2013 He was seen at the weekend with Danny Fox and their families, in their local. He was still limping and when asked how long was he out, said " it will be 2/3 weeks at least." Looked perfectly fine walking wise at Fulham in the home end.
St Chalet Posted 2 January, 2013 Posted 2 January, 2013 4-5-1 / 4-3-3 Boruc Richardson Hooiveld Yoshida Fox Chaplow Davis Jwp Mayuka Lee Jrod Does show how short of cover we are at CB.
Window Cleaner Posted 2 January, 2013 Posted 2 January, 2013 4-5-1 / 4-3-3 Boruc Richardson Hooiveld Yoshida Fox Chaplow Davis Jwp Mayuka Lee Jrod Does show how short of cover we are at CB. We aren't going to field a team that weak. That would be shameful.
Lighthouse Posted 2 January, 2013 Author Posted 2 January, 2013 Just for reference this is the team that lost narrowly to Man Utd 2 years ago: Bart - Butters, Seaborne, Fonte, Harding - AOC, Morgan, Guly, Chaplow - Lambert, Barnard Putting out a weaker team doesn't necessarily mean a spanking. I'd wager an entirely reserve XI would still be as strong or stronger than that team which played Man Utd in the cup. I'm not in favour of whole sale changes but 4 or 5 fringe players would probably be sensible.
Appy Posted 2 January, 2013 Posted 2 January, 2013 Just for reference this is the team that lost narrowly to Man Utd 2 years ago: Bart - Butters, Seaborne, Fonte, Harding - AOC, Morgan, Guly, Chaplow - Lambert, Barnard Putting out a weaker team doesn't necessarily mean a spanking. I'd wager an entirely reserve XI would still be as strong or stronger than that team which played Man Utd in the cup. I'm not in favour of whole sale changes but 4 or 5 fringe players would probably be sensible. I think a reserve 11 would be weaker than that 11.
Glasgow_Saint Posted 2 January, 2013 Posted 2 January, 2013 Should be back in full training this week so maybe to early for him. Thank you
DanW Posted 2 January, 2013 Posted 2 January, 2013 (edited) 4-5-1 / 4-3-3 Boruc Richardson Hooiveld Yoshida Fox Chaplow Davis Jwp Mayuka Lee Jrod Does show how short of cover we are at CB. This is almost what I'm thinking. JRod, Lee, and Mayuka all up in attacking positions. Chappers and JWP in the midfield. Probably Steven Davis as the other, but it could be anyone I don't really care. I don't know what to say about our defense since we seem so thin there, and then I'd have anyone except Boruc in goal. Gazza, Davis, Cropper - all would be fine for me. Edited 2 January, 2013 by DanW
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