Armchair Posted 9 January, 2013 Share Posted 9 January, 2013 Agree - Ramirez played really well vs Arsenal and is madness not to start him in a game like this. These games are exactly the reason we went to all the effort to sign him because he will be thebest player on the pitch! Team should be this: --------------------Any keeper---------------- Clyne--------Fonte/Jos----------Yoshida------Shaw ---------------Cork-----------Morgan----------- Puncheon-----------Ramirez---------------Guly --------------------Lambert------------------- I do understand your reasoning but for me we need to get at their fullbacks from the off and get plenty of crosses into box which requires 2 out and out strikers for it to be effective. In my opinion whichever team scores first will go onto win so we need to be more direct and start on front foot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 9 January, 2013 Share Posted 9 January, 2013 Do that and we'll lose it in midfield. Need to get in control of the game, Ramirez plays pretty high anyway. If J-Rod, Lambert and Gaston all start, then we're essentially going tp play 3 up front or waste Gaston on the left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 9 January, 2013 Share Posted 9 January, 2013 Do that and we'll lose it in midfield. Need to get in control of the game, Ramirez plays pretty high anyway. If J-Rod, Lambert and Gaston all start, then we're essentially going tp play 3 up front or waste Gaston on the left. Yep - alos having JR on the bench actually gives us a decent option to bring on, rather than relying on De Ridder for inspiration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
svetigpung Posted 9 January, 2013 Share Posted 9 January, 2013 Lambert bossing things up top and Corky back at centre mid at all costs. That is all. simples Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avenue Saint Posted 9 January, 2013 Share Posted 9 January, 2013 --------------------Boruc/Gazza--------------- Clyne--------Yoshida--------Jos------Shaw ---------------Cork-----------Morgan----------- Puncheon--------Ramirez------------Guly ---------------- ----Lambert------------------- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tajjuk Posted 9 January, 2013 Share Posted 9 January, 2013 Same formation as against Arsenal. Clyne comes back in for Davis and Cork goes back in the middle. Jos replaces Fonte at the back and be in charge of Benteke. 4-4-1-1 We press and put them under pressure like we did against Arsenal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tajjuk Posted 9 January, 2013 Share Posted 9 January, 2013 Same formation as against Arsenal. Clyne comes back in for Davis and Cork goes back in the middle. Jos replaces Fonte at the back and be in charge of Benteke. 4-4-1-1 We press and put them under pressure like we did against Arsenal, when Villa played Liverpool, Liverpool stood off too much and allowed Villa space to play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Posted 9 January, 2013 Share Posted 9 January, 2013 One Villa fan's reply to another's pleas for calmness ahead of Saturday's game: I'm quite calm, but I must say I’ve been getting a bit skeptical about the chances of seeing any “reaction” from this side recently. Two and half weeks ago we lost 8-0 at Chelsea to record our heaviest defeat ever. A defeat so humiliating that the history books needed updating. I’d say that’s the sort of thing that really calls for some reaction. So what did we see against Spurs? Well, we didn’t exactly come out all guns blazing. In fact, after 40 minutes of play we seemed to have crossed the halfway line with the ball about once, and the corner count was 15-0 to Spurs (it actually would have been 17-0 but for a couple of wrongly awarded goal kicks). And the final score was 4-0 to Spurs. Not an all-time record this time, but still our biggest home defeat for 15 years, or in other words our worst so far this century. Was that a good reaction? Well, we’d managed to let in only half as many goals as in the previous game, and gone from setting an all-time low to merely a “worst of the 21st century” type record. At a stretch you could say that constituted a slight improvement, but all in all I’d still say it was a tad disappointing as reactions go. We really needed a proper reaction in the next game against Wigan. So what did we get there? Once again the early signs were not too good. Within about five minutes we had been lucky to get away with a corner instead of a penalty for an inexplicable needless handball, let in a goal anyway from said corner by giving their player a free header from five yards, and been very lucky not to concede another penalty for a clear foul in the area. Perhaps encouraged by this early luck, we were able this time to go on to lose only 3-0. So once again there was a tenuous case for saying that we had improved a bit. Once again we’d lost by fewer goals than in the previous match, and this time we hadn’t even set any kind of negative record. But I still found it a little bit unsatisfactory. 0-3 at home to Wigan isn’t all that good, after all. And considering that the result was far more damaging to our chances of avoiding relegation than the previous two maulings, it was actually even more worrying. So now, after this new setback of losing 3-1 to a Fourth Division side, what are the chances of seeing some real reaction against Southampton? I don’t know, but I’m certainly not expecting anything. Can the fans get behind the team and spur them on to tear into the opposition, or would that be too much like trying to goad a corpse? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pingwing Posted 9 January, 2013 Share Posted 9 January, 2013 "or would that be too much like trying to goad a corpse?" had me laughing Interesting to see what we can do as by all accounts we should turn up, play our game and hammer them. Hopefully we get that sort of performance instead of the complacent Sunderland one... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suhari Posted 9 January, 2013 Share Posted 9 January, 2013 --------------------Boruc/Gazza--------------- Clyne--------Yoshida--------Jos------Shaw ---------------Cork-----------Morgan----------- Puncheon--------Ramirez------------Guly ---------------- ----Lambert------------------- This for me. That midfield is our strongest; we need Guly slinging in the crosses, Lambert bullying their weak defence and Ramirez/Puncheon exploiting the panic. Have to get at them straight from the off, and show self belief. TEAR IT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SB Posted 9 January, 2013 Share Posted 9 January, 2013 Doesn't look like saints will have signed a CB by the time we play Villa, worrying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 9 January, 2013 Share Posted 9 January, 2013 My Villa supporting colleagues are dreading facing Lambert on Saturday! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohio Saint Posted 9 January, 2013 Share Posted 9 January, 2013 Dammit!!! For some unknown reason I had been thinking it was being played this evening!!! I've been building up for this match today for the last 2 days!!! What an idiot I is!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 9 January, 2013 Share Posted 9 January, 2013 Dammit!!! For some unknown reason I had been thinking it was being played this evening!!! I've been building up for this match today for the last 2 days!!! What an idiot I is!! Would be a tad unfair on Villa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr X Posted 9 January, 2013 Share Posted 9 January, 2013 worried now after their collapse against Bradford they will be out to proove a point! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 9 January, 2013 Share Posted 9 January, 2013 worried now after their collapse against Bradford they will be out to provide a point! Just like they did after their 8-0 loss to Chelsea. They proved their point with a 4-0 and 3-0 home loss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr X Posted 9 January, 2013 Share Posted 9 January, 2013 Just like they did after their 8-0 loss to Chelsea. They proved their point with a 4-0 and 3-0 home loss. they have to turn around their form soon though and saints typically struggle against so called easy to beat teams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 9 January, 2013 Share Posted 9 January, 2013 (edited) they have to turn around their form soon though Do they? Why? and saints typically struggle against so called easy to beat teams Do they? Of the 6 teams around us (3 above and 3 below), we've won 4 and lost 2. QPR 1 Saints 3 Saints 2 Newcastle 0 Saints 1 Reading 0 Saints 4 Aston Villa 1 Saints 0 Wigan 2 Saints 0 Sunderland 1 Edited 9 January, 2013 by Matthew Le God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slickmick Posted 9 January, 2013 Share Posted 9 January, 2013 (edited) Do they? Why? Do they? QPR 1 Saints 3 Saints 2 Newcastle 0 Saints 1 Reading 0 Saints 4 Aston Villa 1 Saints 0 Wigan 2 Saints 0 Sunderland 1 Norwich, Swansea, Fulham spring to mind. Come on MLG, your slipping. Edited 9 January, 2013 by slickmick Mis-spelt your initials for a muppet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 9 January, 2013 Share Posted 9 January, 2013 they have to turn around their form soon though and saints typically struggle against so called easy to beat teams Could you not say we are due a win? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 9 January, 2013 Share Posted 9 January, 2013 Norwich, Swansea, Fulham spring to mind. Come on MLT, your slipping. I was doing games against the 3 teams above us and the 3 teams below. In any case we didn't struggle against Norwich, Fulham x2 and Swansea. We were ontop in all 4 games, that isn't struggling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 9 January, 2013 Share Posted 9 January, 2013 I was doing games against the 3 teams above us and the 3 teams below. In any case we didn't struggle against Norwich, Fulham x2 and Swansea. We were ontop in all 4 games, that isn't struggling. and still never won Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 9 January, 2013 Share Posted 9 January, 2013 I was doing games against the 3 teams above us and the 3 teams below. In any case we didn't struggle against Norwich, Fulham x2 and Swansea. We were ontop in all 4 games, that isn't struggling. We did struggle against Norwich. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slickmick Posted 9 January, 2013 Share Posted 9 January, 2013 I was doing games against the 3 teams above us and the 3 teams below. In any case we didn't struggle against Norwich, Fulham x2 and Swansea. We were ontop in all 4 games, that isn't struggling. It is if you don't beat teams you expect to have a good chance of winning against. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucks Saint Posted 9 January, 2013 Share Posted 9 January, 2013 Villa mate (regular there) I am going with thinks we will win 3 or 4 nil. Who knows but think we can expect the crowd to be silent, or on their back, provided we start brightly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
for_heaven's_Saint Posted 9 January, 2013 Share Posted 9 January, 2013 Gonna be all about taking our chances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rick1976.4.38 Posted 10 January, 2013 Share Posted 10 January, 2013 we need three points off the villa amd start pulling away from the bottom three but more so cos of the next few matches weve got coys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordswoodsaints Posted 10 January, 2013 Share Posted 10 January, 2013 We are due a decent,convincing win and lambert is due a goal spurt, couple this with villa being the whipping boys at the moment and it should all lead to one thing.......villa 0 saints 4 (lambert 3,puncheon) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saints-cris Posted 10 January, 2013 Share Posted 10 January, 2013 The Villa defence looked pretty poor dealing with crosses on Tuesday, and Bradford missed a couple of easy chances. Can't help but think Lambert won't be so forgiving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 10 January, 2013 Share Posted 10 January, 2013 Doesn't look like saints will have signed a CB by the time we play Villa, worrying. This. And just how big is this game to drag your feet on something like that ? FFS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surrey1saint Posted 10 January, 2013 Share Posted 10 January, 2013 This. And just how big is this game to drag your feet on something like that ? FFS. Its a big concern,I agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 10 January, 2013 Share Posted 10 January, 2013 Its a big concern,I agree. You know it, I know it, a few other clued-up people on here know it. But you'd be surprised the amount of posters on here who would get uptight about spending too much or not bringing in better than we have (despite the fact the CB cupboard is currently bare) who want us to poooove around and wait until 6.313ns before the window slams shut... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tajjuk Posted 10 January, 2013 Share Posted 10 January, 2013 You know it, I know it, a few other clued-up people on here know it. But you'd be surprised the amount of posters on here who would get uptight about spending too much or not bringing in better than we have (despite the fact the CB cupboard is currently bare) who want us to poooove around and wait until 6.313ns before the window slams shut... To be fair I think if there are games that might suit Jos then this might be one, a bit like the stoke game I think with Benteke up fornt there might be a bit of an aerial battle which he should relish, or at least prefer to small tricky strikers running at him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saints-cris Posted 10 January, 2013 Share Posted 10 January, 2013 To be fair I think if there are games that might suit Jos then this might be one, a bit like the stoke game I think with Benteke up fornt there might be a bit of an aerial battle which he should relish, or at least prefer to small tricky strikers running at him. While I agree, all that will happen in reality is that Benteke will pull off towards Yoshida. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 10 January, 2013 Share Posted 10 January, 2013 While I agree, all that will happen in reality is that Benteke will pull off towards Yoshida. I had to read that twice... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperMikey Posted 10 January, 2013 Share Posted 10 January, 2013 Jos did a great job on Carroll in the Wet Sham game, likewise against Stoke. He's capable of filling in on Saturday against Benteke + 10. I'd rather get the right player in than rush it in time for Saturday and end up with somebody of lesser quality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tajjuk Posted 10 January, 2013 Share Posted 10 January, 2013 While I agree, all that will happen in reality is that Benteke will pull off towards Yoshida. Villa's strength is clearly up front, Benteke is a handfull, but I'm not sure he's as good as people think he is and Hansen's "most complete forward in the prem" comment might haunt him. Howevert add in Bent, Agbonlahor coming back and Wieman has good movement they can worry us, but the game is won and lost in midfield, and against Bradford Villa's midfield was woeful they struggled to gain any control and their supply to the forward's was hit and hope a lot of the time, they also seem to give no protection to the vunerable defence. If we have cork in there with Morgan and Gaston I think we can win the midfield battle and then let Lambert bully them up front. Clark, Bennet, Baker and Lowton, none of them can come close to Rickie in the air. Also whoever Benteke is marking at corners will have a good chance to score as he doesn't stay with his marker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hutch Posted 10 January, 2013 Share Posted 10 January, 2013 Gonna be all about taking our chances. We won't miss Lallana then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rshephard3 Posted 10 January, 2013 Share Posted 10 January, 2013 While I agree, all that will happen in reality is that Benteke will pull off towards Yoshida. Ha.. We'll have none of that pulling each other off stuff, it's not a rugby match FFS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fez Posted 10 January, 2013 Share Posted 10 January, 2013 However add in Bent... I'll be astonished if Bent plays Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rshephard3 Posted 10 January, 2013 Share Posted 10 January, 2013 I'll be astonished if Bent plays Can't see Bent playing any part. Out of favour and got a knock at Bradford. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintbob40 Posted 10 January, 2013 Share Posted 10 January, 2013 Villa remind me of us without Cork in CM. Good going forward but no defensive screen. Ramirez should have a lot of space to operate in front of their back four as I have seen more work in a Scouse Docker's sick note than I have from Barry Bannan and Stephen Ireland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 10 January, 2013 Share Posted 10 January, 2013 Villa remind me of us without Cork in CM. Good going forward but no defensive screen. Ramirez should have a lot of space to operate in front of their back four as I have seen more work in a Scouse Docker's sick note than I have from Barry Bannan and Stephen Ireland. They have been woeful going forward most of the times Ive seen them. Beneteke is a handful but all they do is punt the ball to him and look for knockdowns. They have some tidy midfielders who are decent on the ball but don't play to their strengths. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGTL Posted 10 January, 2013 Share Posted 10 January, 2013 Jos did a decent job at Stoke and will adequately fit in alongside Yoshida. Not ideal but not the end of the world. We need a CB though and quick, because if one of those two pick up a knocks it looks like it's down to Martin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tajjuk Posted 10 January, 2013 Share Posted 10 January, 2013 They have been woeful going forward most of the times Ive seen them. Beneteke is a handful but all they do is punt the ball to him and look for knockdowns. They have some tidy midfielders who are decent on the ball but don't play to their strengths. Exactly how they looked against Bradford, wasteful in possesion and leightwieght and lazy in midfield. Their back four is also woeful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackanorySFC Posted 10 January, 2013 Share Posted 10 January, 2013 Anyone going, feel free to give them both barrels with the "Empty seats my Lord, empty seats", "going down my Lord, going down", and "s*** support my Lord, s*** support" songs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericofarabia Posted 10 January, 2013 Share Posted 10 January, 2013 My Villa supporting colleagues are dreading facing Lambert on Saturday! He's not the only one .... have a gander at this lot!! http://www.heroesandvillains.info/forumv3/index.php?topic=48763.15 Bed wetting moistened fannys or just realists? They make Alps look like an amateur in being negative!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pingwing Posted 10 January, 2013 Share Posted 10 January, 2013 Can't see Bent playing any part. Out of favour and got a knock at Bradford. Thought his appearances were limited to cups now anyway as Villa wanted to avoid the next instalment payable on league fixtures to Sunderland... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saints-cris Posted 10 January, 2013 Share Posted 10 January, 2013 Thought his appearances were limited to cups now anyway as Villa wanted to avoid the next instalment payable on league fixtures to Sunderland... Have seen that rumour flying about. Seems to fit as hes never plays PL games, but in the Cup there he is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andre Posted 10 January, 2013 Share Posted 10 January, 2013 Bit worried we'll concede a sloppy goal or two, but if we score first we'll win, and Villa will be way less willing and able than we are to come back from a deficit. Can see nothing but a Saints win here, hugely important we get the three points on Saturday. Clyne will still be out, so I can see Cork at RB and Davis in the centre of midfield again; Ramirez should be back and aiming to impress; awful choice in the centre of defence between Hooiveld and Seaborne really (unless you wanna put Richardson on the right and Cork/Schneiderlin in the middle!?); and we still need Lallana back, another start for Guly (been alright recently, knocking on the door). COYS really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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