Saints boy in Leeds Posted 30 December, 2012 Share Posted 30 December, 2012 I've got mixed views on this, I help coach an under 7s team and 5 of our team are training in pro academy's. 3 of them were there last year and they were 5 yrs old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 30 December, 2012 Share Posted 30 December, 2012 I've got mixed views on this, I help coach an under 7s team and 5 of our team are training in pro academy's. 3 of them were there last year and they were 5 yrs old. 5 is young for a scout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miltonroader07 Posted 30 December, 2012 Share Posted 30 December, 2012 We just need them to show a bit of loyalty and backbone, ie; Bale, Walcott and OxChamberlaine.... what a great ambassador Adam Lallana is !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints boy in Leeds Posted 30 December, 2012 Author Share Posted 30 December, 2012 What's what I think but he was at Leeds and now Man united, he will make it as many wont, the boy is draw dropping on the ball, they played man city under 8 in a friendly and he single handedly took em apart. His dad is sound as and grounded so I'm sure he'll be fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 30 December, 2012 Share Posted 30 December, 2012 Depends how you look on it, if you read up on continental coaching techniques then 4-8 is the age within which you should coach balance, start getting them comfortable running with the ball and both feet, also technique wise I think touch etc is learnt by 12 latest really, and so I think to get the best out of them then the younger the better. The key really is better, trained coaches working with kids, instead of the usual dross that gets thrown at them, put the goals away, make it fun, but train that technique. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 30 December, 2012 Share Posted 30 December, 2012 What's what I think but he was at Leeds and now Man united, he will make it as many wont, the boy is draw dropping on the ball, they played man city under 8 in a friendly and he single handedly took em apart. His dad is sound as and grounded so I'm sure he'll be fine. There have been countless lads who were dead certs to make it but didn't. The young lad doesn't need that pressure or expectation. At his age, he just needs to enjoy playing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monk Posted 30 December, 2012 Share Posted 30 December, 2012 I won’t ever recommend a player under the age of 6. If I do see a talented player, mainly when with my grassroots club not just through work, I would however monitor him. Children at that age need to play for fun and far too many parents become the enemy when their child is talent identified. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintNeil90 Posted 30 December, 2012 Share Posted 30 December, 2012 It not a problem and doesn't cause problems so why change it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammysaint Posted 30 December, 2012 Share Posted 30 December, 2012 Im a coach, i coach 3-11 year olds, had a 5 year old who was quickest lad i have ever seen and dribbled the ball while running fast, similar to messi most players with pace do a ronaldo and knock if forward and run after it but this kid ran with it, anyways pompey were coaching next to us and one of the coaches came over and spoke to the lads mum saying hes been watching him and wants him at pompey and she said no, she wanted him with us only until he is 7 or 8 then look at more professional coaching, as were a company based on having fun and letting everyone have a ball most of the time until there in the 8-9 class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 30 December, 2012 Share Posted 30 December, 2012 Im a coach, i coach 3-11 year olds, had a 5 year old who was quickest lad i have ever seen and dribbled the ball while running fast, similar to messi most players with pace do a ronaldo and knock if forward and run after it but this kid ran with it, anyways pompey were coaching next to us and one of the coaches came over and spoke to the lads mum saying hes been watching him and wants him at pompey and she said no, she wanted him with us only until he is 7 or 8 then look at more professional coaching, as were a company based on having fun and letting everyone have a ball most of the time until there in the 8-9 class. sammysaint outed as Simon Clifford shocker! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the stain Posted 30 December, 2012 Share Posted 30 December, 2012 Coaching 3 year olds? **** off! They're idiots at that age, what on earth could you teach them? They can barely stand up are certainly too stupid to follow instructions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 30 December, 2012 Share Posted 30 December, 2012 Im a coach, i coach 3-11 year olds, had a 5 year old who was quickest lad i have ever seen and dribbled the ball while running fast, similar to messi most players with pace do a ronaldo and knock if forward and run after it but this kid ran with it, anyways pompey were coaching next to us and one of the coaches came over and spoke to the lads mum saying hes been watching him and wants him at pompey and she said no, she wanted him with us only until he is 7 or 8 then look at more professional coaching, as were a company based on having fun and letting everyone have a ball most of the time until there in the 8-9 class. Fair play to the mum. Shame a good number of these parent are too pushy and starstruck. Your scheme seems the right way for youngsters to start and enjoy the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 30 December, 2012 Share Posted 30 December, 2012 Im a coach, i coach 3-11 year olds, had a 5 year old who was quickest lad i have ever seen and dribbled the ball while running fast, similar to messi most players with pace do a ronaldo and knock if forward and run after it but this kid ran with it, anyways pompey were coaching next to us and one of the coaches came over and spoke to the lads mum saying hes been watching him and wants him at pompey and she said no, she wanted him with us only until he is 7 or 8 then look at more professional coaching, as were a company based on having fun and letting everyone have a ball most of the time until there in the 8-9 class. Fair play to the parents, I just hope he continues his progression. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 30 December, 2012 Share Posted 30 December, 2012 (edited) Friend of ours has a 6yo lad who was training with Stoke 2 nights a week and Wolves 2 nights a week. He's now only training at Wolves as he didn't like the Stoke training as much but Villa have asked if he'd like to train with them. Wolves pay for a taxi to and from their academy for the lad and his grandfather. He's also been given 2 season tickets for his dad (whose a Wolves fan). He's been doing that for a year already. He's heads & shoulders better than any kid I've ever seen. 100% natural 10yo lad who plays with my nipper turned down Stoke as he doesn't want to be a professional footballer. Stoke watched my nipper twice but he decided he'd play football for fun and concentrate on his cricket but one of the dads at his county cricket is a academy coach at Port Vale and wants the lad up there (his nipper is there as well) but I've said no. He'll have plenty of chances if he's good enough and doing 2 sports at that level, as well as all the school work, is way too much. Edited 30 December, 2012 by View From The Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints boy in Leeds Posted 30 December, 2012 Author Share Posted 30 December, 2012 This is why I've asked the question, I'm thinking under 10 is to early for kids who have there while life ahead of them and too much presure, its a sport and fun after all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 30 December, 2012 Share Posted 30 December, 2012 This is why I've asked the question, I'm thinking under 10 is to early for kids who have there while life ahead of them and too much presure, its a sport and fun after all. Once they turn 9 (I think it is) if they sign for an academy and are usually then not allowed to play to play for a kids team. Was a 8yo at my nippers old club who was picked up by Utd but it's about 50miles to Carrington, which he had to do twice a week, so I contacted Wolves for them, as I've friends there, and they snapped him up instead. Signed for their academy on his birthday but and now only plays club games in the top of the table games and then only if he hasn't played an academy game that week or doesn't have one within the next 5 days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monk Posted 30 December, 2012 Share Posted 30 December, 2012 When a child is aged 3-7 a good club/coach will not only look to enhance their footballing core skills but their neural and physical development. I have seen many coaches use different shapes, colours and textures such as bean bags, sponge balls and tennis balls whilst working with toddlers. They can also add mathematical education, social skills, hand-eye coordination and much more in their sessions based on fun games. Encouraging a child to have a ball all the time from a young age is now the new thing the FA are looking to implement. I know a lot of parents take their children aged 6-10 to ‘good passing teams’ at grassroots level. **** that, give them a ball each and let them learn how to dribble, using both and every part of their feet. You’ll find the majority of ‘talented up and coming coaches’ (all who have that **** Essex slick haircut, care more about that tracksuit they won’t get dirty in and the gob of a bloke who runs a stall in London) have the same ‘philosophy’ as one another – play it out from the back. Not actually realising philosophy isn’t how a team plays but how its players and coaches conduct themselves. Luckily Saints do have some very talented coaches in their Foundation and Academy but just as anywhere else they do have a fair few of say coaches mentioned above, as do my club unfortunately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 30 December, 2012 Share Posted 30 December, 2012 (edited) When a child is aged 3-7 a good club/coach will not only look to enhance their footballing core skills but their neural and physical development. I have seen many coaches use different shapes, colours and textures such as bean bags, sponge balls and tennis balls whilst working with toddlers. They can also add mathematical education, social skills, hand-eye coordination and much more in their sessions based on fun games. Encouraging a child to have a ball all the time from a young age is now the new thing the FA are looking to implement. I know a lot of parents take their children aged 6-10 to ‘good passing teams’ at grassroots level. **** that, give them a ball each and let them learn how to dribble, using both and every part of their feet. You’ll find the majority of ‘talented up and coming coaches’ (all who have that **** Essex slick haircut, care more about that tracksuit they won’t get dirty in and the gob of a bloke who runs a stall in London) have the same ‘philosophy’ as one another – play it out from the back. Not actually realising philosophy isn’t how a team plays but how its players and coaches conduct themselves. Luckily Saints do have some very talented coaches in their Foundation and Academy but just as anywhere else they do have a fair few of say coaches mentioned above, as do my club unfortunately. Which is what I said earlier And yes, Saints and the foundation have and have had some talented coaches The game and coaching philosophies have moved on so much, and aslong as kids enjoy it then they should be encouraged to progress if able. I admire parents ambition to keep the 'pressure' off but I have often seen more 'pressure' at non professional outfits. The vasics are that if the kids enjoy playing then if taught right through that enjoyment they will improve. Professional outfits know this, but tailor the drills to inspire and improve, as Monk says too often coaches think they are doing the right thing by doing loads of team drills involving passing, it probably isnt benefiting Edited 30 December, 2012 by Smirking_Saint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 30 December, 2012 Share Posted 30 December, 2012 If you ask the kids they all want their teams to play like Barca and Spain. In the long term that's got to be good. Sent from my GT-P3110 using Tapatalk 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monk Posted 30 December, 2012 Share Posted 30 December, 2012 If you also ask kids, they want to be able to fly or xray vision. I know what'cha mean though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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