Saint-Armstrong Posted 30 December, 2012 Share Posted 30 December, 2012 Worried about Adkins saying it was a "fantastic point" at Stoke. Several on here have said that to be 3-1 up against 10 men should have meant a certain 3 points. If Adkins doesn't think so, he must be in a very small minority. Is he saying that just to bolster his own position, which just makes you wonder if he feels insecure. No he's trying to keep the players up as we have another game in 2 days time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supersonic Posted 30 December, 2012 Share Posted 30 December, 2012 So is this the match that ends our run of "if winning at half time then going on to win the match" or was that stopped earlier this season? fulham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pingwing Posted 30 December, 2012 Share Posted 30 December, 2012 I would hate to be a Stoke fan having to watch their hoof ball every week! Would be wrist slitting material! Was thinking about their formation, they seemed to be championing 4 cb's, 2 in the middle, 2 up front then 2 completely out the game on the wings being ignored. When Kightly came off and N'Zonzie decided he really was too wound up about Cork being better than him they seemed to abandon a bad formation and take up 5 cb's and 4 forwards with even less width. Just seemed unable to deal with the ball being within a yard of the sides of the pitch and on the floor... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintsmike25 Posted 30 December, 2012 Share Posted 30 December, 2012 Worried about Adkins saying it was a "fantastic point" at Stoke. Several on here have said that to be 3-1 up against 10 men should have meant a certain 3 points. If Adkins doesn't think so, he must be in a very small minority. Is he saying that just to bolster his own position, which just makes you wonder if he feels insecure. People on here are somehow forgetting how well they played in the second half. In their own words they said "It was our best half of the season." In which they have beaten teams like Liverpool 3-1 at home. What do you want Adkins to say? How disappointed he is in getting a point NO-ONE expected us to get at a Fortress like Stoke. He's not insecure, it's called being positive and keeping the momentum going. Even with 10 men they had a forward line of 4 strikers and had unbelievable energy. Could most defences cope with defending against Crouch, Jerome, Jones and Walters with a direct attack? It is not pretty but it sure is effective. Sometimes losing a player can galvanise a team, I think we can beat them at home, it's also a good lesson for us in how to deal with a physical side. Any point at Stoke is a fantastic one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 30 December, 2012 Share Posted 30 December, 2012 Before the game I thought we would get trounced 5-1. But we were brilliant, we battled hard and proved to be more than good enough to deal with their aerial bombardment. They're a team of beasts, only two of their players are below 6 foot, and we really gave them the run around in the first half. Morgan looked excellent, Guly was superb - apart from the sitter he did not put a foot wrong. Luke Shaw again had a great game and Jay Rod and Lambert linked up well. Also YOSHIDA, won everything in the first half. Yes, it's two points dropped - BUT did anyone even see us getting a point, against Stoke away? I doubt it, they are a seriously tough outfit. What this will do is give the team confidence to go away to places and attack, and get points. On other days we will hold onto leads, and get three points, whether it is away to Man Utd, Chelsea, Spurs, we are going to beat one of the big teams at some point and get three points that we won't expect. While we can have confidence that now we can get points away to any side if we play like that. Yes, this season will be touch and go, every fixture is tough, none have "3 points" written all over them. So we will battle for each point and whether we go down, or go up. Lets enjoy the ride, we are competing and are in the mix with 7/8 other teams trying to stay up. The constant negativity on this board is annoying, we were always battling to stay up the majority of the time when we were in the Premiership, it was mostly individual brilliance by Le Tissier and later Pahars that kept us up. We have spent money, and we are getting better as the season goes on. We are picking up points away from home. It's a shame we lost to Sunderland, and didn't beat Norwich, in some games we have looked flat, but now Adkins will use the likes of Richardson, Guly, Chaplow, Mayuka, Jay Rod, Fox, Shaw and perhaps Ben Reeves to keep the squad fresh and hungary. Positives: Yoshida, superb throughout - Guly, shows he can do it on a cold day at Stoke, that proves he can do it anywhere when he on his game. Spiderman/Cork - Both had great games against a tough physical outfit. Jay Rod: Didn't score but was pulling their defence about and starting to look like he will step up to his price tag. Shaw: Looks mature beyond his years. I honestly think we are a better side than Villa, Reading, QPR, Wigan and possibly on the same level as Fulham/Newcastle. We are picking up the points and looking steady. We will lose more games throughout the season, but I think now, lets all have some faith in the team and Adkins. Even if we go down I want him to stay. COYR. Spin, spin, spin. People like you will be posting happy-clappy stuff whatever the circumstances. A complete lack of balance makes your posts utterly ridiculous. For example, there is a complete lack of mention of us spending more money on the squad last summer than every club in Europe, bar half-a-dozen. The performances and results that leave you so delighted are a poor return for that, especially as the manager is clueless on who his best GK is (having brought in two very mediocre additions) and his substitution strategy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingsbridge Saint Posted 30 December, 2012 Share Posted 30 December, 2012 (edited) Two good away points made to feel **** by not beating Sunderland at home. If we had put in a shift in that game like the last two, we would be sitting pretty now. Why do we always make things so hard for ourselves. Arsenal up at SMS next FFS. Edited 30 December, 2012 by Kingsbridge Saint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingsbridge Saint Posted 30 December, 2012 Share Posted 30 December, 2012 Encouraged that we are starting to look like a proper mid table side. Hopefully results will follow, starting by avoiding a defeat next time out against Arsenal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilippineSaint Posted 30 December, 2012 Share Posted 30 December, 2012 Spin, spin, spin. People like you will be posting happy-clappy stuff whatever the circumstances. A complete lack of balance makes your posts utterly ridiculous. For example, there is a complete lack of mention of us spending more money on the squad last summer than every club in Europe, bar half-a-dozen. The performances and results that leave you so delighted are a poor return for that, especially as the manager is clueless on who his best GK is (having brought in two very mediocre additions) and his substitution strategy. Its not Spin Spin Spin! It is one persons opinion Why for the love of (put your thing here) you cannot accept that some people are naturally optimistic and will always try to put the positives on any result, whilst some and I include you in this are pessimistic and will always look for the dark side or negative in any given situation. Yesterday we were 1-3 up at halftime people were generally happy but their were still the pessimistic's giving it were still going to lose were doomed as luck would have it they were wrong and and we came away from Stoke with a point yes it could have been all three, and as a lot pointed out prior to the game to get anything there would be hard we were the first away team to score 3 times in the first half at the victoria ground scored more than any other team to play there this season. so look on the bright side the apocalypse has been and gone (never happened) for the next 50 to 60 years so cheer up. Before you get on you high horse and say well your all happy clappy and were still going down, yes we could still go down we all know this but most of us would enjoy going down trying to believe that we could survive until it is mathematically impossible for us not to. Happy New Year to all when it arrives Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHAPEL END CHARLIE Posted 30 December, 2012 Share Posted 30 December, 2012 Its not Spin Spin Spin! It is one persons opinion Why for the love of (put your thing here) you cannot accept that some people are naturally optimistic and will always try to put the positives on any result, whilst some and I include you in this are pessimistic and will always look for the dark side or negative in any given situation. Yesterday we were 1-3 up at halftime people were generally happy but their were still the pessimistic's giving it were still going to lose were doomed as luck would have it they were wrong and and we came away from Stoke with a point yes it could have been all three, and as a lot pointed out prior to the game to get anything there would be hard we were the first away team to score 3 times in the first half at the victoria ground scored more than any other team to play there this season. so look on the bright side the apocalypse has been and gone (never happened) for the next 50 to 60 years so cheer up. Before you get on you high horse and say well your all happy clappy and were still going down, yes we could still go down we all know this but most of us would enjoy going down trying to believe that we could survive until it is mathematically impossible for us not to. Why should you care anyway - you're a Mendiola Utd fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70's Mike Posted 30 December, 2012 Share Posted 30 December, 2012 Spin, spin, spin. People like you will be posting happy-clappy stuff whatever the circumstances. A complete lack of balance makes your posts utterly ridiculous. For example, there is a complete lack of mention of us spending more money on the squad last summer than every club in Europe, bar half-a-dozen. The performances and results that leave you so delighted are a poor return for that, especially as the manager is clueless on who his best GK is (having brought in two very mediocre additions) and his substitution strategy. A complete lack of balance, pot and kettle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Mikie Posted 30 December, 2012 Share Posted 30 December, 2012 Spin, spin, spin. People like you will be posting happy-clappy stuff whatever the circumstances. A complete lack of balance makes your posts utterly ridiculous. For example, there is a complete lack of mention of us spending more money on the squad last summer than every club in Europe, bar half-a-dozen. The performances and results that leave you so delighted are a poor return for that, especially as the manager is clueless on who his best GK is (having brought in two very mediocre additions) and his substitution strategy. The argument about Summer spending is slightly flawed. If you look at our squad value against the rest of the PL, I think only Reading and Norwich are lower. Therefore if performance is based on how much we spent then we are about right with regard to our league position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHAPEL END CHARLIE Posted 30 December, 2012 Share Posted 30 December, 2012 (edited) Great play from Guly but I just hope we don't remember that miss later on. When he missed that sitter you just knew it would end up costing us because this game seldom forgives ineptitude on that scale - I'm almost surprised it was only the two points thrown away rather than all three. As for that miss costing us not just a victory in this one game, but our Premier League survival ... well it's just too early to say right now. The grim possibility of that is however starting to play on my mind. Edited 30 December, 2012 by CHAPEL END CHARLIE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilippineSaint Posted 30 December, 2012 Share Posted 30 December, 2012 Why should you care anyway - you're a Mendiola Utd fan Charlie you have found a Filipino team which I could honestly say have never heard of as they are now defunct and not part of the league. It appears that the whole league is based in Manila and are basically company sponsored or Armed forces teams standard might even be as high as Hants division 3. You don't even hear that there is a Football league down here thats how much it is regarded, unless its Basketball, Ultimate fighting or Manny Pacquiao forget it not going to be reported Sorry to disappoint you I do care about Southampton but it just gets on my nipples when people go on and on with the were doomed scenario's. I thought that had passed over when Dads Army got taken of the telly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pele Posted 30 December, 2012 Share Posted 30 December, 2012 Spin, spin, spin. People like you will be posting happy-clappy stuff whatever the circumstances. A complete lack of balance makes your posts utterly ridiculous. For example, there is a complete lack of mention of us spending more money on the squad last summer than every club in Europe, bar half-a-dozen. The performances and results that leave you so delighted are a poor return for that, especially as the manager is clueless on who his best GK is (having brought in two very mediocre additions) and his substitution strategy. How on EARTH can you quote spin spin spin when EVERY post you ever do is NEGATIVE!!!!!! Happy New Year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 30 December, 2012 Share Posted 30 December, 2012 Charlie you have found a Filipino team which I could honestly say have never heard of as they are now defunct and not part of the league. It appears that the whole league is based in Manila and are basically company sponsored or Armed forces teams standard might even be as high as Hants division 3. You don't even hear that there is a Football league down here thats how much it is regarded, unless its Basketball, Ultimate fighting or Manny Pacquiao forget it not going to be reported Sorry to disappoint you I do care about Southampton but it just gets on my nipples when people go on and on with the were doomed scenario's. I thought that had passed over when Dads Army got taken of the telly. Look on the bright side. With a certain poster who's name began with H being banned at least there is one less person telling us we should all go and hang ourselves. IF ONLY they keep saying. Well, IF ONLY they had never found this forum. Or IF ONLY they had won Euromillions and bought the club themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 30 December, 2012 Share Posted 30 December, 2012 Spin, spin, spin. People like you will be posting happy-clappy stuff whatever the circumstances. A complete lack of balance makes your posts utterly ridiculous. For example, there is a complete lack of mention of us spending more money on the squad last summer than every club in Europe, bar half-a-dozen. The performances and results that leave you so delighted are a poor return for that, especially as the manager is clueless on who his best GK is (having brought in two very mediocre additions) and his substitution strategy. Your spin is equally unbalanced. We spent more than most because we were just about to start a Premier League season with a Championship squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 30 December, 2012 Share Posted 30 December, 2012 Your spin is equally unbalanced. We spent more than most because we were just about to start a Premier League season with a Championship squad. What, like pretty much every single promoted side ever? Swansea, Norwich and even QPR didn't spend what we did last year and they all stayed up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 30 December, 2012 Share Posted 30 December, 2012 What, like pretty much every single promoted side ever? Swansea, Norwich and even QPR didn't spend what we did last year and they all stayed up. I agree with what you say, but that wasn't my point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 30 December, 2012 Share Posted 30 December, 2012 Worried about Adkins saying it was a "fantastic point" at Stoke. Several on here have said that to be 3-1 up against 10 men should have meant a certain 3 points. If Adkins doesn't think so, he must be in a very small minority. Is he saying that just to bolster his own position, which just makes you wonder if he feels insecure. Actually to be pedantic it was 3-2 against 10 men as Nzonzi was sent off after Kelvin let in the 2nd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Kint Posted 30 December, 2012 Share Posted 30 December, 2012 Spin, spin, spin. People like you will be posting happy-clappy stuff whatever the circumstances. A complete lack of balance makes your posts utterly ridiculous. For example, there is a complete lack of mention of us spending more money on the squad last summer than every club in Europe, bar half-a-dozen. The performances and results that leave you so delighted are a poor return for that, especially as the manager is clueless on who his best GK is (having brought in two very mediocre additions) and his substitution strategy. Of the players involved in the game yesterday, the combined total of the Stoke players was 45 million, and ours was 20 million. Just because we spent a decent chunk of money in one window does not mean we should be beating sides away from home that have spent a lot more money than us over a period of time building a premier league squad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 30 December, 2012 Share Posted 30 December, 2012 Your spin is equally unbalanced. We spent more than most because we were just about to start a Premier League season with a Championship squad. Have you forgotten our record level of spending for the previous two seasons for those respective leagues, when we were told it was spending in preparation for the Premier League ??? Sorry, I find the desperate hunting around for excuses / justifications to explain underperforming, bad decisions and screw-ups more than a little sad. There is NO excuse for the way the team played against Sunderland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotonjoe Posted 30 December, 2012 Share Posted 30 December, 2012 What is most disappointing is how we seemed powerless to stop Stoke once they piled the pressure on. From the point at which Guly missed it was all Stoke really, and as the game progressed we naively hoofed the ball upfield, straight back to them. We wanted to be keeping hold of the ball and making the most of our extra man, but we couldn't do this as they had us camped so deep in our own half. Our substitutions were defensive and seemed to exacerbate the situation. I don't know if it's as simple as saying we should have gone for it a bit more, but we certainly ended up playing into the hands of Stoke (a bigger, stronger side) tactically for the last twenty minutes or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 30 December, 2012 Share Posted 30 December, 2012 There is NO excuse for the way the team played against Sunderland.So many times on here you have said the performance doesn't matter, it is just about the result. So unless you are saying there is no excuse for losing to Sunderland, which sounds to me you expect us to not lose any game, then are contradicting yourself. Which is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 30 December, 2012 Share Posted 30 December, 2012 What is most disappointing is how we seemed powerless to stop Stoke once they piled the pressure on. From the point at which Guly missed it was all Stoke really, and as the game progressed we naively hoofed the ball upfield, straight back to them. We wanted to be keeping hold of the ball and making the most of our extra man, but we couldn't do this as they had us camped so deep in our own half. Our substitutions were defensive and seemed to exacerbate the situation. I don't know if it's as simple as saying we should have gone for it a bit more, but we certainly ended up playing into the hands of Stoke (a bigger, stronger side) tactically for the last twenty minutes or so. To quote Strachan, 'we need to be brave on the ball'. Maybe it was just down to fitness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 30 December, 2012 Share Posted 30 December, 2012 Have you forgotten our record level of spending for the previous two seasons for those respective leagues, when we were told it was spending in preparation for the Premier League ??? Sorry, I find the desperate hunting around for excuses / justifications to explain underperforming, bad decisions and screw-ups more than a little sad. There is NO excuse for the way the team played against Sunderland.to get a PL side you need to spend a lot more than we have. QPR are now going to show you what it needs to stay up,adding to their massive squad. It is naive to believe that PL players were going to play in L1 . I hope we become EUropes biggest spenders we could then compete at the top and stay there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 30 December, 2012 Share Posted 30 December, 2012 What is most disappointing is how we seemed powerless to stop Stoke once they piled the pressure on. From the point at which Guly missed it was all Stoke really, and as the game progressed we naively hoofed the ball upfield, straight back to them. We wanted to be keeping hold of the ball and making the most of our extra man, but we couldn't do this as they had us camped so deep in our own half. Our substitutions were defensive and seemed to exacerbate the situation. I don't know if it's as simple as saying we should have gone for it a bit more, but we certainly ended up playing into the hands of Stoke (a bigger, stronger side) tactically for the last twenty minutes or so. all this is true. We needed to change our tactic from hoofing it down the channel (which worked brilliantly in the first half) to keeping it short and passing a lot more. Not easy to stop a side intent on hoofing it up to four or five huge lads. I don't think the subs would have made a difference. A modified tactic may have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackanorySFC Posted 30 December, 2012 Share Posted 30 December, 2012 What is most disappointing is how we seemed powerless to stop Stoke once they piled the pressure on. From the point at which Guly missed it was all Stoke really, and as the game progressed we naively hoofed the ball upfield, straight back to them. We wanted to be keeping hold of the ball and making the most of our extra man, but we couldn't do this as they had us camped so deep in our own half. Our substitutions were defensive and seemed to exacerbate the situation. I don't know if it's as simple as saying we should have gone for it a bit more, but we certainly ended up playing into the hands of Stoke (a bigger, stronger side) tactically for the last twenty minutes or so. Dont You mean the J Rod 1 on 1 miss that he shot straight at the keepers legs? Bet you were incandescent with rage at Gulys awesome delivery to Lambert in the first half! I hope he keeps making the morons look stupid! Up the Guly Up the Saints Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 30 December, 2012 Share Posted 30 December, 2012 For all those moaning that we ought to have got all three points because we had a chance that Guly missed to make it 4-1, that we were playing against 10 men for the last 20 minutes, let's be a bit more balanced and take account of a few factors that would have levelled up the "what if" side of the match. There were two clear hand-balls that we got away with, that would probably have gained Stoke two penalty goals. Guly's miss was cancelled out by Kenywyn Jones' even more glaring miss from 3 yards out. So I make that 6-4 to them, if we're going to place too much credence on chances missed or penalties not given. Yes, on the face of it, it was disappointing to miss the opportunity to go 1-4 up and then only get a point, but credit must go to Pulis for going for broke and gambling on 4 strikers up front and three defenders. Adkins countered with 5 defenders, but it can be argued that we should have continued attacking ourselves and held a high line, exploiting the extra man advantage. Otherwise, we should have kept possession better and passed the ball around. But Stoke's home defensive record is phenomenal and having only conceded 4 goals all season, we managed to put 3 past them and should have made it four. Because of our natural bias, we will have seen it as points dropped, but the neutrals and our immediate rivals in the table will have seen it as a hard away point won by us and that scoring 3 goals against Stoke was a very creditable achievement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 30 December, 2012 Share Posted 30 December, 2012 Dont You mean the J Rod 1 on 1 miss that he shot straight at the keepers legs? Bet you were incandescent with rage at Gulys awesome delivery to Lambert in the first half! I hope he keeps making the morons look stupid! Up the Guly Up the Saints Regardless, it was a poor miss. J-Rod should have scored but I feel we should give the keeper credit for an excellent save. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 30 December, 2012 Share Posted 30 December, 2012 Have you forgotten our record level of spending for the previous two seasons for those respective leagues, when we were told it was spending in preparation for the Premier League ??? you've got a point, League 1 spending certainly was huge, but was last season's spending also a record? I didn't know that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 30 December, 2012 Share Posted 30 December, 2012 So I make that 6-4 to them, if we're going to place too much credence on chances missed or penalties not given. pretty sure there a good penalty claim for us when Puncheon's slipped pass was handled in the Stoke box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackanorySFC Posted 30 December, 2012 Share Posted 30 December, 2012 Regardless, it was a poor miss. J-Rod should have scored but I feel we should give the keeper credit for an excellent save. Have to agree to disagree on that, watched it again on MOTD when I got in and thought JR had the easier chance. Guly had an excellent game IMO, only Lambert better over 90 mins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheaf Saint Posted 30 December, 2012 Share Posted 30 December, 2012 Regardless, it was a poor miss. J-Rod should have scored but I feel we should give the keeper credit for an excellent save. Indeed, at least JR's shot was on target. I thought the keeper actually made a good save. At first watching it did look like a pretty unforgivable miss from Guly but on repeat showings it did come back to him a little bit fast, although I would still expect a PL player to hit the target with it. I thought he had an OK game yesterday overall, and if he can repeat it in the next 2-3 games then he will go a long way towards silencing his critics (of whom I admit to being one in the recent past), but there is no ignoring the fact that his cross to set up the first goal yesterday was his first assist in over a calendar year which, for an attacking player, is inexcusable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 30 December, 2012 Share Posted 30 December, 2012 Have to agree to disagree on that, watched it again on MOTD when I got in and thought JR had the easier chance. Guly had an excellent game IMO, only Lambert better over 90 mins. Guly was excellent. His best game in a Saints shirt for sometime. I'll go and watch MOTD in a moment but watching it live it was a bad a miss as I've seen in a while and from then on in Stoke were always going to get something. I also though J-Rod had a mistake when he got in down the channel and fired it across goal instead of pulling it back for Morgan to tap in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 30 December, 2012 Share Posted 30 December, 2012 pretty sure there a good penalty claim for us when Puncheon's slipped pass was handled in the Stoke box. Seen those given. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 30 December, 2012 Share Posted 30 December, 2012 pretty sure there a good penalty claim for us when Puncheon's slipped pass was handled in the Stoke box. OK, 6-5 to them then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 30 December, 2012 Share Posted 30 December, 2012 FFS we were lucky to get away with it, Flapper Davis versus an aerial bombardment. I don't buy this idea of bringing in Boruc he has played three games for the club and conceded 9 goals and didn't look good in any of them. Gazzaniga had a decent record apart from two very different errors, he is a much better keeper than Davis. To date Boruc has done nothing to rate a place. If he was the answer he would be in. Adkins might give Boruc a go but I think if we make a change Gazzaniga will come back in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 30 December, 2012 Share Posted 30 December, 2012 A complete lack of balance makes your posts utterly ridiculous. Happy New Year Alpine. Thank you for one of the funniest posts I have ever seen. Sorry I was a bit late getting to it. Love it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 30 December, 2012 Share Posted 30 December, 2012 Adkins one mistake was taking JP off and not replacing him with SD or GR. It was there for the taking but we handed the emphasis to Stoke much in the same way we did to Utd. Perhaps Gaston wasn't really fit, I mean he must have been benched for a reason I suppose. Adkins did speak of "knocks" before the game I think. Unless Gaston has some sort of pyschological problem arising from his recent bereavement. We'll need him against the Arse so maybe he wasn't risked. Still not seen much of the game but I do wonder how much the first half performance burnt out of those of our players who play every minute of every game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotonjoe Posted 30 December, 2012 Share Posted 30 December, 2012 Dont You mean the J Rod 1 on 1 miss that he shot straight at the keepers legs? Bet you were incandescent with rage at Gulys awesome delivery to Lambert in the first half! I hope he keeps making the morons look stupid! Up the Guly Up the Saints That wasn't really my point. I like Guly. He had a good game. He also missed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 30 December, 2012 Share Posted 30 December, 2012 That wasn't really my point. I like Guly. He had a good game. He also missed. Guly doesn 't get enough game time, if he'd played more he might not have missed. Pace of the PL is hard to adapt to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the stain Posted 30 December, 2012 Share Posted 30 December, 2012 Spin, spin, spin. People like you will be posting happy-clappy stuff whatever the circumstances. A complete lack of balance makes your posts utterly ridiculous. For example, there is a complete lack of mention of us spending more money on the squad last summer than every club in Europe, bar half-a-dozen. The performances and results that leave you so delighted are a poor return for that, especially as the manager is clueless on who his best GK is (having brought in two very mediocre additions) and his substitution strategy. Hello, you miserable old f*** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 30 December, 2012 Share Posted 30 December, 2012 Charlie you have found a Filipino team which I could honestly say have never heard of as they are now defunct and not part of the league. It appears that the whole league is based in Manila and are basically company sponsored or Armed forces teams standard might even be as high as Hants division 3. You don't even hear that there is a Football league down here thats how much it is regarded, unless its Basketball, Ultimate fighting or Manny Pacquiao forget it not going to be reported Sorry to disappoint you I do care about Southampton but it just gets on my nipples when people go on and on with the were doomed scenario's. I thought that had passed over when Dads Army got taken of the telly. Dad's Army is still being shown on BBC2. HTH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 30 December, 2012 Share Posted 30 December, 2012 FFS we were lucky to get away with it, Flapper Davis versus an aerial bombardment. I don't buy this idea of bringing in Boruc he has played three games for the club and conceded 9 goals and didn't look good in any of them. Gazzaniga had a decent record apart from two very different errors, he is a much better keeper than Davis. To date Boruc has done nothing to rate a place. If he was the answer he would be in. Adkins might give Boruc a go but I think if we make a change Gazzaniga will come back in. gazza is terrible for us at the mo...and they way you never back down from an opinion is funny...its ok to admit you are wrong..much like rodriguez being ONSIDE against newcastle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 30 December, 2012 Share Posted 30 December, 2012 Don't know why everyone is focusing on Guly's miss yesterday. We threw away that win because we lacked leadership out there, we got scared and we weren't able to retain possession against 10 men and control the game at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 30 December, 2012 Share Posted 30 December, 2012 http://oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=Potters&action=display&thread=205295 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 30 December, 2012 Share Posted 30 December, 2012 Don't know why everyone is focusing on Guly's miss yesterday. We threw away that win because we lacked leadership out there, we got scared and we weren't able to retain possession against 10 men and control the game at all. Just watched the game on TV and would have to agree... Also thought Kelvin could have done better with the winner. It wasn't a thunderbolt miles from him, it went right over his head well within reach from the pictures. Two things which worry me which we HAVE to change after January. 1. A decent keeper. None of our three are up to it at this level. Whatever it costs, Friedel is a must. 2. Which other club in the league changes their defence as often as us? Why take off Shaw unless he had a knock? The one place on the park you need TOTAL confidence is at the back. And that's only possible with a settled back five. It doesn't matter whether the guy you're bringing on is as good, it unsettles things for no good reason unless the player you're replacing is either injured or having a shocker... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 30 December, 2012 Share Posted 30 December, 2012 http://oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=Potters&action=display&thread=205295 Yet another example of their misplaced anger and bitterness, weird. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Posted 30 December, 2012 Share Posted 30 December, 2012 http://oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=Potters&action=display&thread=205295 Stoke fans are a bunch of numpties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 30 December, 2012 Share Posted 30 December, 2012 (edited) just seen the goals again on goals on sunday it really was a horrific miss by guly.....it really was kelvin/defenc should really have stopped their 2nd goal....davis compeletly let it go under his hand when he could have easily stopped it with his foot it was that easy....davis just flapped at everything Edited 30 December, 2012 by Thedelldays Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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