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I thought the subs were the right ones.

 

If we'd brought attackers on instead if extra defenders I can't see how the pattern of the game would have changed, they would probably have scored still and Adkins would have been slated for not bringing on defenders

 

People saying we should have brought pace on instead don't seem to understand that pace is useless when you don't have the ball.

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I thought the subs were the right ones.

 

If we'd brought attackers on instead if extra defenders I can't see how the pattern of the game would have changed, they would probably have scored still and Adkins would have been slated for not bringing on defenders

 

Adkins was always going to get slated if we did not hold on to lead whatever subs used, if we had it would not be mentioned..

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before the game a point would have been a good result, but considering the circumstances it's a horrible result.

 

first half we were fantastic, second half we sit back, invite the pressure and inevitably we concede two goals and could have been more. can't understand those tactics. love adkins but second half tactics cost us.

 

players who stood out in my opinion were morgan, rodriguez, guly and puncheon - but only in the first half.

 

feels like a defeat, no doubt.

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Gutted not to have gotten the 3 points but can't complain really, we managed to get a point scoring one less than the combined tally of last 9 teams that have visited the Britannia.

 

Performances like this are exactly what we need if we are to survive.

 

All in all it was a good day at the office.

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S-Clarke

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******* Guly and Davis cost us again. If Guly hadn't had missed that open goal if would have been game over at 4-1. And again Davis flapping at everything - he is a liablity.

 

Will NA ever learn and get his tactics right?

 

He did a pretty fine job on the hole of getting his tactics right today.

 

Bloody fans.

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Alternative match report;

10 man Saints came from 2 goals behind to grab a vital point in their match away to Stoke today.

Lambert scored the late equaliser with a stunning effort resulting in a 3-3 draw.

 

Fantasy result 3-3=1 point

Real result 3-3=1 point

 

Always makes me feel better switching the order of goals in a game.

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Missing an opem goal not running the ball into the corner and then losng it taking off an attacker when up against 10 men - amateurish nohing else. This could be an expensive two points dropped with Reading winning. I expected 3 against Sunderland 1 against Fulham and none today and Tuesday. Three today would have put us on track. We need to be out of the bottom three on Tusday but I cannot see it.

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Wow. Streamed the game and was a quivering wreck for the best part of two hours. Absolutely great for 60 minutes and very good for the final 30. I'd love to know how many balls got smashed into our box today, for the defence to stand up to that is a real testament to how far we've come because we would have crumbled early on in the season. Despite what people say I thought the substitutions were spot on, Maya needed help as Stoke kept angling balls towards Crouchie and Jerome who were doubled up on him. Stoke going down to ten men didn't effect them becuase they were only really using defenders and strikers, N'zonzi and Whitehead were just making up the numbers.

 

Maybe it was the save at the end but I'm pretty happy with that point.

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Sooner we get relegated the better, We went up too soon in my opinion and are ill prepared for the Premier League. we are a laughing stock in this league FACT.

 

Our new signings are completely out of there depth, with that Jap Yoshida probably the worst defender i've seen in a Saints shirt (yes even worse than Jermaine Wright). Can anyone think of a decent Jap player ever??????

 

We should of won this game when 3-1 up and a clear opening to make it 4-1 was wasted by our comedy Brazilian.

 

Lets not kid ourselves apart from the first goal from Rickie the other 2 goals were very lucky for us, but the combination of comedy defending for their 1st and 2nd goals the open goal miss and a wonder strike for their 3rd cost us the points today.

 

I thinks Arsenal will wipe the floor with us on new years day too

 

It doesn't matter if we buy anyone in the transfer window because the damage is already done.

 

I am of the opinion that the club were so shocked to get promoted last season that we did not have the tactical nous or budget to support the amount of players required in the right areas to strengthen the squad enough to cope with the rigors of the premier league much the same as Reading are seeing and it has cost us dearly.

 

Roll on next season in the Championship when we can build the squad properly as it should be done or if by some quirk of fate we do stay up get rid of the players who we know cannot cut it sooner rather than later.

 

PS HAPPY NEW YEAR :D

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BILLY

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Missing an opem goal not running the ball into the corner and then losng it taking off an attacker when up against 10 men - amateurish nohing else. This could be an expensive two points dropped with Reading winning. I expected 3 against Sunderland 1 against Fulham and none today and Tuesday. Three today would have put us on track. We need to be out of the bottom three on Tusday but I cannot see it.

 

Spot on

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Sooner we get relegated the better, We went up too soon in my opinion and are ill prepared for the Premier League. we are a laughing stock in this league FACT.

 

Our new signings are completely out of there depth, with that Jap Yoshida probably the worst defender i've seen in a Saints shirt (yes even worse than Jermaine Wright). Can anyone think of a decent Jap player ever??????

 

We should of won this game when 3-1 up and a clear opening to make it 4-1 was wasted by our comedy Brazilian.

 

Lets not kid ourselves apart from the first goal from Rickie the other 2 goals were very lucky for us, but the combination of comedy defending for their 1st and 2nd goals the open goal miss and a wonder strike for their 3rd cost us the points today.

 

I thinks Arsenal will wipe the floor with us on new years day too

 

It doesn't matter if we buy anyone in the transfer window because the damage is already done.

 

I am of the opinion that the club were so shocked to get promoted last season that we did not have the tactical nous or budget to support the amount of players required in the right areas to strengthen the squad enough to cope with the rigors of the premier league much the same as Reading are seeing and it has cost us dearly.

 

Roll on next season in the Championship when we can build the squad properly as it should be done or if by some quirk of fate we do stay up get rid of the players who we know cannot cut it sooner rather than later.

 

PS HAPPY NEW YEAR :D

 

good banter, like it

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Sooner we get relegated the better, We went up too soon in my opinion and are ill prepared for the Premier League. we are a laughing stock in this league FACT.

 

Our new signings are completely out of there depth, with that Jap Yoshida probably the worst defender i've seen in a Saints shirt (yes even worse than Jermaine Wright). Can anyone think of a decent Jap player ever??????

 

We should of won this game when 3-1 up and a clear opening to make it 4-1 was wasted by our comedy Brazilian.

 

Lets not kid ourselves apart from the first goal from Rickie the other 2 goals were very lucky for us, but the combination of comedy defending for their 1st and 2nd goals the open goal miss and a wonder strike for their 3rd cost us the points today.

 

I thinks Arsenal will wipe the floor with us on new years day too

 

It doesn't matter if we buy anyone in the transfer window because the damage is already done.

 

I am of the opinion that the club were so shocked to get promoted last season that we did not have the tactical nous or budget to support the amount of players required in the right areas to strengthen the squad enough to cope with the rigors of the premier league much the same as Reading are seeing and it has cost us dearly.

 

Roll on next season in the Championship when we can build the squad properly as it should be done or if by some quirk of fate we do stay up get rid of the players who we know cannot cut it sooner rather than later.

 

PS HAPPY NEW YEAR :D

 

I don't know if you're being serious or not, but that is a bloody funny post.

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BILLY

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Sooner we get relegated the better, We went up too soon in my opinion and are ill prepared for the Premier League. we are a laughing stock in this league FACT.

 

Our new signings are completely out of there depth, with that Jap Yoshida probably the worst defender i've seen in a Saints shirt (yes even worse than Jermaine Wright). Can anyone think of a decent Jap player ever??????

 

We should of won this game when 3-1 up and a clear opening to make it 4-1 was wasted by our comedy Brazilian.

 

Lets not kid ourselves apart from the first goal from Rickie the other 2 goals were very lucky for us, but the combination of comedy defending for their 1st and 2nd goals the open goal miss and a wonder strike for their 3rd cost us the points today.

 

I thinks Arsenal will wipe the floor with us on new years day too

 

It doesn't matter if we buy anyone in the transfer window because the damage is already done.

 

I am of the opinion that the club were so shocked to get promoted last season that we did not have the tactical nous or budget to support the amount of players required in the right areas to strengthen the squad enough to cope with the rigors of the premier league much the same as Reading are seeing and it has cost us dearly.

 

Roll on next season in the Championship when we can build the squad properly as it should be done or if by some quirk of fate we do stay up get rid of the players who we know cannot cut it sooner rather than later.

 

PS HAPPY NEW YEAR :D

 

And I thought I was negative! Fooks sake. We're not down yet. Lets give it ago.

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Sooner we get relegated the better, We went up too soon in my opinion and are ill prepared for the Premier League. we are a laughing stock in this league FACT.

 

Our new signings are completely out of there depth, with that Jap Yoshida probably the worst defender i've seen in a Saints shirt (yes even worse than Jermaine Wright). Can anyone think of a decent Jap player ever??????

 

We should of won this game when 3-1 up and a clear opening to make it 4-1 was wasted by our comedy Brazilian.

 

Lets not kid ourselves apart from the first goal from Rickie the other 2 goals were very lucky for us, but the combination of comedy defending for their 1st and 2nd goals the open goal miss and a wonder strike for their 3rd cost us the points today.

 

I thinks Arsenal will wipe the floor with us on new years day too

 

It doesn't matter if we buy anyone in the transfer window because the damage is already done.

 

I am of the opinion that the club were so shocked to get promoted last season that we did not have the tactical nous or budget to support the amount of players required in the right areas to strengthen the squad enough to cope with the rigors of the premier league much the same as Reading are seeing and it has cost us dearly.

 

Roll on next season in the Championship when we can build the squad properly as it should be done or if by some quirk of fate we do stay up get rid of the players who we know cannot cut it sooner rather than later.

 

PS HAPPY NEW YEAR :D

 

Alpine in using friend's login id shocker.... ;)

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Sooner we get relegated the better, We went up too soon in my opinion and are ill prepared for the Premier League. we are a laughing stock in this league FACT.

 

Our new signings are completely out of there depth, with that Jap Yoshida probably the worst defender i've seen in a Saints shirt (yes even worse than Jermaine Wright). Can anyone think of a decent Jap player ever??????

 

We should of won this game when 3-1 up and a clear opening to make it 4-1 was wasted by our comedy Brazilian.

 

Lets not kid ourselves apart from the first goal from Rickie the other 2 goals were very lucky for us, but the combination of comedy defending for their 1st and 2nd goals the open goal miss and a wonder strike for their 3rd cost us the points today.

 

I thinks Arsenal will wipe the floor with us on new years day too

 

It doesn't matter if we buy anyone in the transfer window because the damage is already done.

 

I am of the opinion that the club were so shocked to get promoted last season that we did not have the tactical nous or budget to support the amount of players required in the right areas to strengthen the squad enough to cope with the rigors of the premier league much the same as Reading are seeing and it has cost us dearly.

 

Roll on next season in the Championship when we can build the squad properly as it should be done or if by some quirk of fate we do stay up get rid of the players who we know cannot cut it sooner rather than later.

 

PS HAPPY NEW YEAR :D

 

I couldn't disagree more. I reckon we are a more capable team than our position shows.

 

I do agree about tactical nous to a certain extent though. That and individual errors have cost us a fair bit this season.

 

Relegation would not be positive in any way. The vultures will pick off our best players.

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BILLY

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Saints are still my team:)

 

We still ended up with a good point......just.:D

 

 

Onto the next game and 3 points..... Who is next:rolleyes:...Have faith boyz and some of you little girlies;)

 

Still too many Pompey fans on here ...not recognising a top side in the mighty Saints.:D

 

No Pompey fans on here mate. Just realist, well some of us.

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It is disappointing to drop points from a winning position, but I doubt many of us realistically thought we,d get anything from today's game. Even at halftime I was expecting to be pulled back as Stoke are a very strong team. At the end of the season this point will be handy.

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******* Guly and Davis cost us again. If Guly hadn't had missed that open goal if would have been game over at 4-1. And again Davis flapping at everything - he is a liablity.

 

Will NA ever learn and get his tactics right?

 

Gult had a good game. Not sure Davis was overly at fault for their goals. He flapped at a few, but equally came and got others. The tactics - 4-4-2, centre back at right back, Guly instead of Ramirez, Rodriguez instead of Ramirez, playing it long and down the channels were the reasons we were 3-1 up in the first place. Adkins tactics worked pretty well.

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Gult had a good game. Not sure Davis was overly at fault for their goals. He flapped at a few, but equally came and got others. The tactics - 4-4-2, centre back at right back, Guly instead of Ramirez, Rodriguez instead of Ramirez, playing it long and down the channels were the reasons we were 3-1 up in the first place. Adkins tactics worked pretty well.

 

I think davis makes the defence nervy and was slow to get down to second aswell as flapping at everything, boruc needs to play. Guly had a good first half awful second imo, jay rod is guilty of wasting a couple of great chances econd half but did show promise.

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No Pompey fans on here mate. Just realist, well some of us.

 

If you truly and honestly think you are a realist then you have a very warped view of the world indeed.

 

After a couple of hours of reflection and cooling off, I feel I am ready to comment.

 

Great to get a point from Stoke. Excellent tactics from Nigel and very well carried out by the players. Stoke were always going to come at us at some point, and I felt we resisted very well apart from Kelvin who really struggled to deal with Jones' threat and that affected the rest of his game I think. Defence were all excellent, although Fonte was lucky to get away with a blatant handball. Guly was good at left midfield, but made two crucial errors at crucial times when he failed to help out Shaw for the first goal and then missed a great chance in the second. Harsh to criticise him too much, he put in a very good shift.

 

Lambert's use of the ball in the first half was very clever, but I thought he gave it up too easily once or twice in the second. Still, his goal and assists demonstrate his continuing value to us. Rodriguez did well but should have done better when crossing to Lambert in the second half, his miss was as much down to good goalkeeping as anything.

 

Nigel's subs were spot on I thought. Richardson is a great option to have as he is defensive-minded but still got up and down the wing and sent in one particularly good cross.

 

A late goal is very tough to take, but it was an incredible strike. My worry is for how the players will react to the blow, as they were so close to a huge result, but if anyone can keep them buoyant its Nigel.

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What a sensational game, that is what the Premier League is all about. Stoke were absolutely sensational in that 2nd half, the sheer drive and determination that they feed off Pulis and their fans is absolutely awe inspiring. Any team would have found holding on to a two goal lead tough today.

 

It hurts though, Guly had a strong game but that miss was horrible. J-Rod should have tucked away his effort just before, so he isn't solely to blame. If it was 4-1, I think the fight would have evaporated from Stoke's game and we would have won comfortably.

 

The effort on display from most of the lads today was fantastic and that sort of spirit will have to continue if we are to stay up. It's going to be damn difficult.

 

While we all feel a little deflated at the point, it is more than we expected to get AND we have to remember that we rode our luck. Stoke won't defend as bad as they did in that first half again for a while, plus Clattenburg missed a blatant penalty when Fonte handled the ball. Fonte would have also received a 2nd yellow and we'd have been looking at a defeat.

 

Davis - 5 - Poor today, never dealt with the threat of the long throw effectively and could have saved the 2nd. Distribution was average.

Yoshida - 8 - Absolutely fantastic performance, gutsy, great tackling, real stand out for me

Fonte - 7 - Solid, blocked several shots/headers

Hooiveld - 6 - Never looked as assured with the ball at his feet but he never f**ked up! Yay!

Shaw - 6 - Struggled today but his pace and his effort made up for it often

Schneiderlin - 7 - Solid, played his part

Cork - 8 - Seemed to be everywhere in the middle of the park

Puncheon - 7 - Sometimes he's magical, sometimes he keeps the ball a bit too long. Seemed to overhit a lot. Good effort though.

Guly - 7 - Great assist for the first, worked really hard. Shame about that miss, it was awful!

Rodriguez - 7 - Impressive, could have made it 4-1. Worked hard.

Lambert - 8 - MOTM - Superb when he got the opportunity. 1 goal, 2 assists. Top class.

 

Won't grade the subs, they came on too late!

 

Great summary.

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Right train back from stoke now and some time to take it in.

 

On the one hand 2 points dropped in the short term, long term one point wouldn't have other wise seen us get.

 

Guly, other than the defensive laps for their first, man of the match! The had no answer and drugged with him out wide. We were excellent first half, doing what we do as ell as any team in the league, pressing them in their half. After their 2nd we stopped and tried to hold out for 3-2, which has and never will work. Shame but Adkins has to learn from that now!

 

They were a lot better after the sending off and playing 5-0-4, mostly because we let them and assumed the still didn know about punch. Adkins should have known to keep the ball from them an pressure for a 4th. Still a point is a point.

 

Again stars of today, Guly, cork, morg, fonte and yoshida. All really good hard fought games. Stand out problem kelvin! No command of the area came for everything regardless

Of how stupid it was and generally showed why we needed a prem keeper today badly.

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If you truly and honestly think you are a realist then you have a very warped view of the world indeed.

 

After a couple of hours of reflection and cooling off, I feel I am ready to comment.

 

Great to get a point from Stoke. Excellent tactics from Nigel and very well carried out by the players. Stoke were always going to come at us at some point, and I felt we resisted very well apart from Kelvin who really struggled to deal with Jones' threat and that affected the rest of his game I think. Defence were all excellent, although Fonte was lucky to get away with a blatant handball. Guly was good at left midfield, but made two crucial errors at crucial times when he failed to help out Shaw for the first goal and then missed a great chance in the second. Harsh to criticise him too much, he put in a very good shift.

 

Lambert's use of the ball in the first half was very clever, but I thought he gave it up too easily once or twice in the second. Still, his goal and assists demonstrate his continuing value to us. Rodriguez did well but should have done better when crossing to Lambert in the second half, his miss was as much down to good goalkeeping as anything.

 

Nigel's subs were spot on I thought. Richardson is a great option to have as he is defensive-minded but still got up and down the wing and sent in one particularly good cross.

 

A late goal is very tough to take, but it was an incredible strike. My worry is for how the players will react to the blow, as they were so close to a huge result, but if anyone can keep them buoyant its Nigel.

 

No not a warped mind. I would have a taken a point before the game too but we ******* through this one away. Guly and Davis cost us the game. Richardson should have taken the ball to the corner and wasted time, not crossed it. Davis is a liability.

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After that first half, i'm not surprised that we were hanging on at the end. We out-fought, outgunned and utterly outdid one of the most physical sides in the league.

 

We were knackered, holding on... and got the point we deserved. That was a truly stunning game of football.

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