Stoke 3 Saints 3 - Post Match Reactions

[Roger]

Thought the second half we didn't show any character or any intelligence. Shocking subs by manager too. Embarrassed by second half

[badgerx16]

Good point and a good overall performance from a game many thought would be a drubbing - we got our tactics right and took the game to them on their own turf. Stoke may be limited, but they are bloody effective, and they don't often concede 3 - plus they should have had a penalty, possibly 2, and Fonte would have been off with his 2nd yellow.

[Crab Lungs]

Guly isn't totally to blame.. other players had ample enough opportunity to put the game to bed but didn't... and Adkins decision to go all defensive just invited them onto us. Still, a point is decent but I feel gutted than we didn't get all three.

 

Fantastic support from the fans AGAIN

[Dig Dig]

A point is more than I was expecting, so can't complain too much. We always seem to throw games like this away though.

 

Every supporter seems to feel it's always them because it does happen to everyone, it's why it's such a good league.

[Thedelldays]

We'll be alright, we've got a lot about us and will cause more teams problem. Pretty confident to be honest.

we really wont...we have played all the bottom sides at home....we have to go to these places and take our chances..more points dropped today as it panned out...

[Saints foreva]

That is a very **** point. 3-1 at HT and we had them on the ropes but we sat back and we were punished. Think Davis should have done better for their 2nd goal, he got down too slowly.

 

Results like that lead to relegation.

[lordswoodsaints]

Would have taken the point before the game but that feels like a loss.....reading winning is a blow as well

[Roger]

Very entertaining match, it had a bit of everything.

 

Obviously wouldve loved three points but we were only 3-1 up due to dodgy Stoke defending. On another day couldve easily lost 4-0.

 

A point gained.

 

Rubbish

[tedmaul]

999999 times out of 1,000,000 Jerome puts that shot in the stands.

 

Stoke just kept coming, and 10 men didn't effect them at all.

 

Good set up by NA, unlucky that Guly couldn't hit tthe target and that JRod's cross was too strong for Rickie.

 

Spot on, though Guly will no doubt be the scapegoat again.

[Ado]

Thought with them down to 10 men and on top we needed to keep the ball and ease the pressure not go deeper and deeper and allow it to happen. Surely Ramirez had to be brought on thats the only issue for me

[RobM]

we really wont...we have played all the bottom sides at home....we have to go to these places and take our chances..more points dropped today as it panned out...

 

Given you predicted a loss before the game, knowing they were without two of their key defenders, surely it's a point gained?

[Verbal Kint]

that is why we are going down IMO

 

We understand you think we are ****. We understand you think Adkins isn't up to it. We understand you think we're going down.

 

Repeating it ad infinitum isn't going to make the rest of us believe it. It's a bit dull

[Sheaf Saint]

Why is it that whenever an opposing team gets a man sent off we never manage to capitalise? After the red card it was all one-way traffic and we couldn't string 3 passes together anywhere.

 

Really annoyed that we had some excellent chances to put this game beyond reach and fooked it up, before capitulating in a pathetic manner to a team with 10-men and a makeshift back four. Yes I would have been happy with a point before the game, and had it gone differently I'm sure I would still be happy, but to go from being in total control in the first half to hanging on in desperation for a draw at the end is infuriating.

 

Gotta hand it to Jerome for their equaliser though - nobody was stopping that. But he's such a whinger - he was still complaining to the ref after the final whistle, even despite the fact there was more than a slight hint of handball from Crouch to set him up to score.

[Leicestersaint]

Would have settled for this in advance but actually very disappointed - we should have held on for a win. I woudl have brought someone with pace on towards the end.

[badgerx16]

we really wont...we have played all the bottom sides at home....we have to go to these places and take our chances..more points dropped today as it panned out...

 

No, we played QPR away.

[SB]

Had a couple of messages saying 'this is why you're going down' I'd have taken a point just a hurts that we could have easily been 4-1 up with three points.

Positives, no injurys, point gained, Jays confidence, Remirez rested to smash arsenal

[Roger]

we really wont...we have played all the bottom sides at home....we have to go to these places and take our chances..more points dropped today as it panned out...

 

That was a terrible second half display and shocking management by Adkins. Pass the ball ffs. Morgan was awful.

[Thedelldays]

Given you predicted a loss before the game, surely it's a point gained?

every point is a point gained..but as the game panned out...it was two points dropped against a team that were not playing well at all.....

[70's Mike]

three one up most teams would have won comfortably, would have took a point at the start though but feels like more points lost!

 

Agree with the second part but not convinced most teams would have won at Stoke even if three one up.

also find it strange that people criticse the Subs but the same guy picked the side that got us in front.

[Lazlo78]

Annoying to lose when up 3-1, but we it should have been a penalty and sending off against Fonte, which would most probably have meant a defeat... also Jerome's goal was brilliant. Our players did their best against Jones and Crouch and kept them away from goal, but a strike like that is difficult to defend against when under heavy pressure.

[St Chalet]

Big game against Arsenal now.

[rshephard3]

Even when he has a half decent game...he still f*cks up and misses a wide open gaping hole bigger than the ****ing grand canyon....it cost us the game. We'd have been 4-1 up.

 

2 points crop...somehow in the bottom 3 with appalling villa above us.

 

Still 2 points from 2 away games isn't bad...it's c*nting up at home to Sunderland that f*cked our march up the table

 

Yeah I heard Guly intentionally missed and it was all his fault. Every single goal we concede is his fault. Indeed even when he's on the bench and we don't win.. IT'S HIS FAULT. Amazing he hasn't been sacked by now.

[MOSaint]

I don't understand why we didn't bring on someone with pace towards the end, would have given us a genuine threat on the counter attack.

[S-Clarke]

Spot on, though Guly will no doubt be the scapegoat again.

 

He's an easy scapegoat for this one. He doesn't help himself with misses like that! Changed the game, at 4-1 it was done, dusted.

 

But he had a fanstiac 1st half, best he's played in the PL for us - 2nd half he was poor though, ball retention sloppy and he didn't cause half as many problems.

[Katalinic]

Would have taken a point all day long before the game but have be disappointed after being 3-1 up and 3-2 up against 10 men. Fine margins, Guly puts the ball in at 3-1 and its all over. Credit to Stoke they put us under enormous pressure and made it look as if we had the 10 men which is disappointing really. A commanding GK would have helped take the pressure off but Kelvin flapped at pretty much everything - we must buy in January.

[Roger]

Had a couple of messages saying 'this is why you're going down' I'd have taken a point just a hurts that we could have easily been 4-1 up with three points.

Positives, no injurys, point gained, Jays confidence, Remirez rested to smash arsenal

 

J rod should have put the game to bed was rubbish to draw when 3-1 up and ten men when 3-2 no composure

[S-Clarke]

I don't understand why we didn't bring on someone with pace towards the end, would have given us a genuine threat on the counter attack.

 

If it was me, Puncheon would have been subbed for Mayuka...not Richardson. Odd one that.

[redder freak]

Shocking result. Everyone except some Saints fans was expecting Stoke to give us an absolute tonking.

[Ohio Saint]

Rubbish

 

rubbish. It was a decent post

[Window Cleaner]

only just got back from a bit of skiing. Our side looks pretty makeshift so a point is good. Annoying after leading but good all the same.

[ProDirectSaints]

Can anyone give a reasoned explanation why Adkins took off and attacker for a 5th defender when 3-2 up against 10 men?

 

Bringing Richardson on baffled me as well. I was expecting Ramirez for Guly/Lambert/Punch from about 75 min onwards, but it never came.

 

That said, I'd take a point from Brittania any day. Brilliant first half, in my opinion we need to see more of J-Rod up front. He allows us to have a much more direct playing style (i.e. playing balls he can run on to), as opposed to the usual Rickie headering it down for Ramirez/Punch/Lallana.

 

Final thing, in my opinion KD cannot play at this level. While none of the goals were his fault exactly, he just seems a half-second slow reacting to any and every ball. every time we were defending a corner, he just did not look confident nor aggressive enough

 

Hopefully we can build on this performance. Well done by Adkins to get the starting line-up and tactics right, but once again, questionable subs (I had no problem with Fox, but Fox AND Richardson).

[Sheaf Saint]

Oh and every time one of those long throws came in towards Jones, Kelvin made a complete pigs-ear of it and never once got close to catching one. He really needs replacing as a matter of urgency.

[Saint_lambden]

F*cking pooing poo

[Thedelldays]

people keep saying we will be alright...4 points behind reading having played a distorted amount of home games....

 

dropping points like that puts added pressure on beating arsenal...

[RobM]

every point is a point gained..but as the game panned out...it was two points dropped against a team that were not playing well at all.....

 

What game were you watching? We were defending against them far more than we were attacking. It might not have been pretty, but they were playing their own game well and giving us a very hard time. We were gifted one goal and scored two good ones, but they still attacked and attacked.

[MAY-Z]

Plenty of good play in the first half but even though we created 2 good chances in the second we gave the ball away far too easily and were lucky to hold on for a point

 

Should have brought Ramirez on to help keep hold of the ball

 

Also disappointing that we couldn't win any headers in defense to help release the pressure

[scotty]

Can anyone give a reasoned explanation why Adkins took off and attacker for a 5th defender when 3-2 up against 10 men?

 

Perhaps because 10 men with nothing to lose might throw a few attackers forward and chase the game?

[Mr Saints]

Reminds me of last time in the Prem when we kept throwing away leads and end up drawing.

 

Have to hold on to a 3-1 lead if we want to stay in this league, simple.

[itchen]

I think it's fortunate that Guly missed that shot. Otherwise the usual suspects would have nothing to have a go at him about given his very good performance both in attack and defensively..

[ALWAYS_SFC]

we really wont...we have played all the bottom sides at home....we have to go to these places and take our chances..more points dropped today as it panned out...

 

You posted this earlier today but are now complaining we only go a point

 

3-1 to stoke here...they are far too strong for us.....despite so many saying we will finish above them and that they are rubbish...they clearly are not and have some very good players...

[Barry Sanchez]

1st half great, 2nd like the bunch of hairdressers he has bought, Stoke bullied us to a draw.Poor subs as well, Guly should of scored to make it 4-1.

[Plumstead_Saint]

Gutted by us squandering 2 points.

As soon as J Rod wasted his best chance of the game [and Guly scuffed the follow up] I knew we were going to draw or lose.

The number of times we have failed to kill off a game and then seen it turn against us is depressing.

Wasn't impressed by us sitting back for the last 15 mins either.

It was inevitable that Jerome or Crouch would score.

B**tards ruined my Sat evening again

[RobM]

people keep saying we will be alright...4 points behind reading having played a distorted amount of home games....

 

dropping points like that puts added pressure on beating arsenal...

 

Equally, gaining a point away at a team we were not expected to beat is a positive for us and we're still four points ahead of Reading.

[Dig Dig]

dont care how unbeaten they were, their 1st choice CB were out...10 men for a chunk of the game...3-1 up at HT...they were not playing well..chances and a massive open goal to put the game to bed...you cant defend that really in the context of the game....

 

that game was there to win...when times like that happen, you have to take them...especially away from home...

it was a poor result given how the game panned out

 

According to you every team we lose to have been poor, had players out etc.

 

Moaning about the team selection prior to the game, going to get a tonking etc and then said team are a few mins away from a win and then that's not good enough either. You've been a proper little girl this season.

[Yate Saint]

What a gutser. Very nearly had them but it took a wonder goal to get the draw. I'm glad it was one of those then a boring long throw into the box with Davis flapping all over the place and then Jones scoring with a tap in.

 

It didn't show at all that Stoke were down to 10 men which was disappointing. Still in the mix down the bottom and that's all you can ask for going into the New Year as it could be a lot worse. COYR.

[Glasgow_Saint]

Spot on, though Guly will no doubt be the scapegoat again.

 

rightly so!! missed an open goal which has cost us the win

[sfc1976]

Depressingly predictable second half performance, more bizarre subs that only heaped pressure on us when we should have been looking to do them on the break, and in the end lucky to hang on against 10 men. The years go by, managers and players come and go, but you can always count on saints to do something like that.

[Thedelldays]

What game were you watching? We were defending against them far more than we were attacking. It might not have been pretty, but they were playing their own game well and giving us a very hard time. We were gifted one goal and scored two good ones, but they still attacked and attacked.

I was watching the game..the game were we had numerous chances to score more...and an open goal...we also had the luck of them having a player sent off and the ref not giving them a blatant penalty...when days like that come, you have to take it if you want to stay up......

[itchen]

Reminds me of last time in the Prem when we kept throwing away leads and end up drawing.

 

Have to hold on to a 3-1 lead if we want to stay in this league, simple.

 

Absolutely. The other team should have taken this into account. Simple.

[MOSaint]

If it was me, Puncheon would have been subbed for Mayuka...not Richardson. Odd one that.

 

I think Adkins wanted two defenders down there to try and stop them putting balls into the box from that side. Unfortunately they simply switched their focus to our left where Shaw/Fox & Guly (who chance missed or not had run himself into the ground tracking back and was running on empty by that point)