sunrise Posted 29 December, 2012 Posted 29 December, 2012 I think the olympic love-up is a bit OTT. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20858353
the stain Posted 29 December, 2012 Posted 29 December, 2012 Tracey Emin, CBE! Ha! Tory tw at. Cherie Blair, CBE! **** off! stella McCartney, OBE! Is fashion really that important? unless its terrace fashion, of course.
revolution saint Posted 29 December, 2012 Posted 29 December, 2012 Fair play to Danny Boyle for turning an honour down.
rocknrollman no2 Posted 29 December, 2012 Posted 29 December, 2012 Giving an award to Tracey Emin is the biggest joke ever.This is the so called "Artist" who put an unmade bed in an exhibition and called it art.If that all its takes,my kids should be worth millions.
Hatch Posted 29 December, 2012 Posted 29 December, 2012 the honours system is pretty much worthless these days. About the same level as winning a Celeb reality TV show. Just Governments trying to be 'with it'
solentstars Posted 29 December, 2012 Posted 29 December, 2012 the honours system is pretty much worthless these days. About the same level as winning a Celeb reality TV show. Just Governments trying to be 'with it' Agree I think most people don't take any notice of the old fashioned honours system. Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk 2
warsash saint Posted 29 December, 2012 Posted 29 December, 2012 After they made made Kelly Holmes a Dame, the honours board have certainly made a rod for their own back!
pedg Posted 29 December, 2012 Posted 29 December, 2012 After they made made Kelly Holmes a Dame, the honours board have certainly made a rod for their own back! Both Wiggo and Sarah Storey already had CBE's so the only remaining options were not to give them awards or make them Sir/Dame. I think its good that every gold medal winner got an award, especially as it covered the paralympics as well.
Winnersaint Posted 29 December, 2012 Posted 29 December, 2012 Perhaps Sir Bradley and Sir Chris (Hoy) can have a joust on bikes!
bridge too far Posted 29 December, 2012 Posted 29 December, 2012 After they made made Kelly Holmes a Dame, the honours board have certainly made a rod for their own back! It seems a bit mean that Mo didn't get a knighthood for his double gold, given that Kelly got her Damehood for her double gold.
Thedelldays Posted 29 December, 2012 Posted 29 December, 2012 It seems a bit mean that Mo didn't get a knighthood for his double gold, given that Kelly got her Damehood for her double gold.I think he will when he retires...much like kelly did
badgerx16 Posted 29 December, 2012 Posted 29 December, 2012 I think its good that every gold medal winner got an award, especially as it covered the paralympics as well. Why ? They were doing their ( generally publicly funded ) 'jobs' and got their reward with the gold medals and publicity. Why not reward the silver medal winners, they are still the 2nd best in the World, and may have missed out by a fraction to a phenominally talented opponent, or is 2nd a failure ?
pedg Posted 29 December, 2012 Posted 29 December, 2012 Why ? They were doing their ( generally publicly funded ) 'jobs' and got their reward with the gold medals and publicity. Why not reward the silver medal winners, they are still the 2nd best in the World, and may have missed out by a fraction to a phenominally talented opponent, or is 2nd a failure ? It's good because its clear why some people got awards and others did not, far better than some gold medal winners getting awards and some not. They had to greatly extend the number they usually give to sports people to cover the gold medal winners so its unlikely they would have been able to extend it to those who got silver.
Thedelldays Posted 29 December, 2012 Posted 29 December, 2012 Why ? They were doing their ( generally publicly funded ) 'jobs' and got their reward with the gold medals and publicity. Why not reward the silver medal winners, they are still the 2nd best in the World, and may have missed out by a fraction to a phenominally talented opponent, or is 2nd a failure ? yes...when 1st is the winner, 2nd is a failure..and most serious sports people see that..
bridge too far Posted 29 December, 2012 Posted 29 December, 2012 I think he will when he retires...much like kelly did Ah cheers Jamie - I didn't realise she got it after her retirement.
Thedelldays Posted 29 December, 2012 Posted 29 December, 2012 Ah cheers Jamie - I didn't realise she got it after her retirement. it will be a travesty if Mo doesnt IMO ainslee has also retired...I know wigins hasnt but he has been utterly amazing and as well as his awesome career..was briefly our most decorated olympian...
Hatch Posted 29 December, 2012 Posted 29 December, 2012 Surprised James Arthur didnt get something, He did come first in the competition he entered.
OldNick Posted 29 December, 2012 Posted 29 December, 2012 Surprised James Arthur didnt get something, He did come first in the competition he entered.lol
OldNick Posted 29 December, 2012 Posted 29 December, 2012 Giving an award to Tracey Emin is the biggest joke ever.This is the so called "Artist" who put an unmade bed in an exhibition and called it art.If that all its takes,my kids should be worth millions. but the intelligensia think she is great. I viewed a Christies modern art auction and could not believe the utter trash that comes under the 'modern art' banner. it is an old cliche but you would not be surprised of a lot were from kindergarden or junior school artrooms. The majority of modern art is a case of the emperors new clothes.
badgerx16 Posted 29 December, 2012 Posted 29 December, 2012 yes...when 1st is the winner, 2nd is a failure..and most serious sports people see that.. But we are not giving the awards for being 'serious sports people', we are giving them, I assume, for being inspirational and setting an example of how dedication and commitment generate their own rewards. For some of the paralympians, simply competing is in itself a triumph over adversity, any medal is simply a bonus.
bridge too far Posted 29 December, 2012 Posted 29 December, 2012 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-20866526
CB Saint Posted 30 December, 2012 Posted 30 December, 2012 Confused why Jessica Ennis got a cbe and Andy Murray only got an obe. Surely murrays achievements this years rank more highly. I think that sports star should only be recognised after they retire, that way there is less emotional decision making.
supersonic Posted 30 December, 2012 Posted 30 December, 2012 Kelly Holmes won 2 golds in Athens and was knighted Mo Farah won 2 golds in London and only gets a CBE....
Thedelldays Posted 30 December, 2012 Posted 30 December, 2012 Kelly Holmes won 2 golds in Athens and was knighted Mo Farah won 2 golds in London and only gets a CBE.... there was more to it than that......farrah will get knighted at the end of his career.....just like holmes
bridge too far Posted 30 December, 2012 Posted 30 December, 2012 It seems Kelly got her damehood BEFORE her retirement, Jamie! According to Wiki, she got her DBE in March 2005 but her final race before retirement was in August 2005. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kelly_Holmes
Thedelldays Posted 30 December, 2012 Posted 30 December, 2012 It seems Kelly got her damehood BEFORE her retirement, Jamie! According to Wiki, she got her DBE in March 2005 but her final race before retirement was in August 2005. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kelly_Holmes i bet it was known she was retiring...ffs, it was a matter of months..Mo has years to go yet...and definitely another olympics stop trying to make out it is something it is not... i bet you keep checking the guardian to see what they have to say about it (if anything)
Seaford Saint Posted 30 December, 2012 Posted 30 December, 2012 Giving an award to Tracey Emin is the biggest joke ever.This is the so called "Artist" who put an unmade bed in an exhibition and called it art.If that all its takes,my kids should be worth millions. She's Professor of Drawing at the RA.....I never got conceptual art either to be honest. Her drawings are excellent and havibg seen a program on her I look on her with some respect now. Some students trashed her "bed" and she has declined an offer of a million quid to remake it.
bridge too far Posted 30 December, 2012 Posted 30 December, 2012 i bet it was known she was retiring...ffs, it was a matter of months..Mo has years to go yet...and definitely another olympics stop trying to make out it is something it is not... i bet you keep checking the guardian to see what they have to say about it (if anything) Oh dear, you do get very defensive don't you? You said she'd retired when she got her DBE - she hadn't. I'm not trying to make out anything, just querying why Mo Farah didn't get a KBE for a similar performance. The only reference I've read in the Guardian to the whole honours thing is their questioning of the disparate number of gongs awarded to olympic athletes compared to paralympic athletes. OK?
Thedelldays Posted 30 December, 2012 Posted 30 December, 2012 Oh dear, you do get very defensive don't you? You said she'd retired when she got her DBE - she hadn't. I'm not trying to make out anything, just querying why Mo Farah didn't get a KBE for a similar performance. The only reference I've read in the Guardian to the whole honours thing is their questioning of the disparate number of gongs awarded to olympic athletes compared to paralympic athletes. OK? im surprised you actually care for something like this from the state... mo will get one when he retires...much like I suspect those who nominated kelly knew she was retiring....
bridge too far Posted 30 December, 2012 Posted 30 December, 2012 im surprised you actually care for something like this from the state... mo will get one when he retires...much like I suspect those who nominated kelly knew she was retiring.... I don't care, actually. I think it's a load of old ******** and I speak as one whose ex-husband got an MBE. I was simply raising an eyebrow or two at apparent inequality.
lifeintheslowlane Posted 30 December, 2012 Posted 30 December, 2012 The honours system is cracked. Honours and respect should be given to those who give their TIME (the most valuable commodity you have to give) for the benefit of others for little or no monetary reward. IMHO.
Sour Mash Posted 30 December, 2012 Posted 30 December, 2012 Far too many honours given out for the Olympics, a brief one off high in Sports most people really don't care about.
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