Saint Charlie Posted 4 January, 2013 Posted 4 January, 2013 You need 3 decent centre halves anyway. THey will all play their part even if the Itie does join. This. Does actually sound like this lad is a decent player too.
trousers Posted 4 January, 2013 Posted 4 January, 2013 Which one of our current first choice centre backs would people drop for this lad? Pretty harsh on either of them to be honest. How about the option of playing 3 centre backs + two wing backs?
Lallana's Left Peg Posted 4 January, 2013 Posted 4 January, 2013 Uh-oh... @tancredipalmeri: Re Southampton-Astori: the player has reached an agreement with the club,that now is working to pay less than the 10m € asked by Cagliari It's just a part of the game playing. I dare say it happens all the time - talk a figure to get a club interested enough to allow you to discuss terms, then agree terms, then try to negotiate the fee with the advantage that the player wants to come so it puts the buying club in a slightly stronger position. At the end of the day Cagliari only appear to be selling due to their financial problems (same reason we got Ramirez) so it makes sense for his to try and nip and get him but still some room for gamesmanship at the end. Less than 6 months ago Caglari accepted a 15m Euro offer from Spartak Moscow for him so if they now will take 10m Euro and maybe even less it appears we're potentially getting a player for a good price on the face of it. Never seen him play and no idea how good he is but does appear to be the right sort of signing for us - perhaps our Premier League pound goes further abroad and whilst there is the added risk of no Premier League experience the club clearly trusts its scouting network. At that price though there will be pressure for him to perform straight away though.
S-Clarke Posted 4 January, 2013 Posted 4 January, 2013 You need 3 decent centre halves anyway. THey will all play their part even if the Itie does join. Agreed. We'd look pretty good in CB if this guy comes. 2 Internationals in Astori and Yoshida, and 2 solid pro's in Fonte and Jos. Not really going to get a better 4 CB's for a club in our position.
Saints foreva Posted 4 January, 2013 Posted 4 January, 2013 So when will the first problem come up? I'm going for page 14.
S-Clarke Posted 4 January, 2013 Posted 4 January, 2013 How about the option of playing 3 centre backs + two wing backs? Doubt we'd make such a radical change at this stage, and also as the current tactical setup seems to be working much better.
Thedelldays Posted 4 January, 2013 Posted 4 January, 2013 right then...sweep take on official announcement of his signing. what page of this thread...? im going for page 14
Appy Posted 4 January, 2013 Posted 4 January, 2013 right then...sweep take on official announcement of his signing. what page of this thread...? im going for page 14 That's optimistic for you.
Matthew Le God Posted 4 January, 2013 Posted 4 January, 2013 How about the option of playing 3 centre backs + two wing backs? Why when the current system is working well? In any case that would then just mean a midfielder/attacker being dropped instead. Astori will come into the team with us playing the same system, in place of Fonte or Yoshida.
MOSaint Posted 4 January, 2013 Posted 4 January, 2013 Another bit from Tancredi Palmeri's twitter; @SaintsRumours@tancredipalmeri how close do you reckon the deal is? 8m Tancredi Palmeri Tancredi Palmeri @tancredipalmeri @SaintsRumours Cagliari will try to get as much as possible,but it is extremely close
St Chalet Posted 4 January, 2013 Posted 4 January, 2013 So when will the first problem come up? I'm going for page 14. Personally I reckon it will be when they don't take Aaron Martin for £5m as part of the deal.
Saint Charlie Posted 4 January, 2013 Posted 4 January, 2013 Is he left footed or right footed? Left I think. Leaves Fonte as right footed, Astori left and Yoshida both.
Wade Garrett Posted 4 January, 2013 Posted 4 January, 2013 Would give the option of Yoshida covering the full-backs if they get injured.
S-Clarke Posted 4 January, 2013 Posted 4 January, 2013 Another bit from Tancredi Palmeri's twitter; To be honest, this is following exactly the same lines as the Ramirez deal. There's only 1 winner here, and it's us. They need the money, we're the only club offering the money, and the players wants to join. They can try and haggle but at the end of the day, they'll accept what we offer at the end of the day. It's all playing the game as well, happens all over the world during every transfer window. Quite fun really.
S-Clarke Posted 4 January, 2013 Posted 4 January, 2013 Who is Tancredi Palmeri? Very strong Italian source, who broke the Ramirez deal in the summer.
MOSaint Posted 4 January, 2013 Posted 4 January, 2013 Who is Tancredi Palmeri? Italian football journalist, works for CNN Italy and Gazetta Dello Sport. Was first to report we were interested in Gaston.
Wade Garrett Posted 4 January, 2013 Posted 4 January, 2013 To be honest, this is following exactly the same lines as the Ramirez deal. There's only 1 winner here, and it's us. They need the money, we're the only club offering the money, and the players wants to join. They can try and haggle but at the end of the day, they'll accept what we offer at the end of the day. It's all playing the game as well, happens all over the world during every transfer window. Quite fun really. Wonder if we've given them a deadline?
S-Clarke Posted 4 January, 2013 Posted 4 January, 2013 Wonder if we've given them a deadline? 1 of many.
Wade Garrett Posted 4 January, 2013 Posted 4 January, 2013 Thanks for the info on Palmeri. Glad he's not the Italian version of that pillock Moose.
Turkish Posted 4 January, 2013 Posted 4 January, 2013 Who is Tancredi Palmeri? lying lazy journo scum with an Anti Saints agenda.
saints_is_the_south Posted 4 January, 2013 Posted 4 January, 2013 http://www.tuttomercatoweb.com/?action=read&id=411992 Difference between Saints and Cagliari is €2m (£1.6m approx). Clubs still working on agreement, especially since Astori has already agreed personal terms with Cortese.
S-Clarke Posted 4 January, 2013 Posted 4 January, 2013 http://www.tuttomercatoweb.com/?action=read&id=411992 Difference between Saints and Cagliari is €2m (£1.6m approx). Clubs still working on agreement, especially since Astori has already agreed personal terms with Cortese. It's another Cortese signing ffs!!!!!!
Saint Charlie Posted 4 January, 2013 Posted 4 January, 2013 Thanks for the info on Palmeri. Glad he's not the Italian version of that pillock Moose. It's funny hearing/reading WH fans convince themselves that Cole on 40k a week and Chamakh are good signings.
Sour Mash Posted 4 January, 2013 Posted 4 January, 2013 That's the price of progress. Yeah I know, but which would you pick to drop? Hard call, as both been very good of late.
S-Clarke Posted 4 January, 2013 Posted 4 January, 2013 It's funny hearing/reading WH fans convince themselves that Cole on 40k a week and Chamakh are good signings. Cole probably won't be too bad if he gets some games under his belt, one of Englands better players when he was fit and confident. But Chamakh, I agree. What does he do? Awful player in my eyes. Not sure if he's a loan signing or not for them.
Saint Charlie Posted 4 January, 2013 Posted 4 January, 2013 It's another Cortese signing ffs!!!!!! Haha, sounds like it will happen. Also sounds like NA lied to the media earlier this week re no approach for Astori.
Saint Charlie Posted 4 January, 2013 Posted 4 January, 2013 Cole probably won't be too bad if he gets some games under his belt, one of Englands better players when he was fit and confident. But Chamakh, I agree. What does he do? Awful player in my eyes. Not sure if he's a loan signing or not for them. Yeah 6 month loan.
This Charming Man Posted 4 January, 2013 Posted 4 January, 2013 Does anyone know if Adkins has even heard of this bloke?
Saint Garrett Posted 4 January, 2013 Posted 4 January, 2013 Sounds like they want us to pay 12m euro, and we only want to pay 10m
Colinjb Posted 4 January, 2013 Posted 4 January, 2013 Random twitterings. Now it feels like a transfer window!! 10 million euros though. Times certainly change..... and the stakes certainly raise accordingly!!
MOSaint Posted 4 January, 2013 Posted 4 January, 2013 Does anyone know if Adkins has even heard of this bloke? In his initial denial NA did say he'd heard of and rated him.
S-Clarke Posted 4 January, 2013 Posted 4 January, 2013 Does anyone know if Adkins has even heard of this bloke? Probably. I'd heard of him before we were linked. But in this day and age, managers don't know every single target. The scouts are paid to do that work, they bring back the reports and videos and then the management decide if it's a good option. It's not something done on a snap judgement either, I'd imagine this has been a good years worth of scouting.
Dig Dig Posted 4 January, 2013 Posted 4 January, 2013 Does anyone know if Adkins has even heard of this bloke? When asked this in a presser he said he knows of him and rates him
itchen_dan Posted 4 January, 2013 Posted 4 January, 2013 http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.calcionews24.com%2Fcalciomercato-cagliari-accordo-per-astori-al-southampton-290872.html%3Futm_source%3Ddlvr.it%26utm_medium%3Dtwitter
Frank's cousin Posted 4 January, 2013 Posted 4 January, 2013 Haha, sounds like it will happen. Also sounds like NA lied to the media earlier this week re no approach for Astori. Well he wont wont to cross the don.... Surprizing we have the cash for this though...
Dig Dig Posted 4 January, 2013 Posted 4 January, 2013 Well he wont wont to cross the don.... Surprizing we have the cash for this though... Why?
Saint Charlie Posted 4 January, 2013 Posted 4 January, 2013 Does anyone know if Adkins has even heard of this bloke? Because he is foreign you assume NA doesn't know who he is? In his presser he said he knows him and is a very good CB picked up by our scouting network.
Turkish Posted 4 January, 2013 Posted 4 January, 2013 Haha, sounds like it will happen. Also sounds like NA lied to the media earlier this week re no approach for Astori. He never lies. Remember we were told about this when he said he picks the team FFS.
Saint Charlie Posted 4 January, 2013 Posted 4 January, 2013 Italian journo said he is like a mix of Phil Jones and Michael Dawson (I asked for comparison to an English CB).
Dig Dig Posted 4 January, 2013 Posted 4 January, 2013 Because he is foreign you assume NA doesn't know who he is? In his presser he said he knows him and is a very good CB picked up by our scouting network. Adkins only knows Championship and League 1 players.
Turkish Posted 4 January, 2013 Posted 4 January, 2013 Does anyone know if Adkins has even heard of this bloke? Yes. He had him in his FM12 team when he was manager of S****horpe and got to the Europa League semi final.
This Charming Man Posted 4 January, 2013 Posted 4 January, 2013 Who is loaning us the money for this transfer?
Turkish Posted 4 January, 2013 Posted 4 January, 2013 Italian journo said he is like a mix of Phil Jones and Michael Dawson (I asked for comparison to an English CB). Always injured, overpriced and overrated?
This Charming Man Posted 4 January, 2013 Posted 4 January, 2013 Because he is foreign you assume NA doesn't know who he is? In his presser he said he knows him and is a very good CB picked up by our scouting network. Where did I say that? Please stop making assumptions, Charlie. There's a good boy.
Frank's cousin Posted 4 January, 2013 Posted 4 January, 2013 Why? Well the need for a loan from the BVI (which I suspect was due to the need to pay ramierez up front) suggest swe aint cash rich. Fag packet maths, suggests turnover this year will approach 60mil - of which 30 ish or more will be wages (30 x 20k per week is approx 30 mil). operating costs/cost of sales willl swallow another 15 -20 mil or so, does not leave 38 mil - so this is usually split over the term of the contracts so with asset depreciation following on the books, but even so, its a lot for a club to comit to in its first season back up...
Saint Charlie Posted 4 January, 2013 Posted 4 January, 2013 Where did I say that? Please stop making assumptions, Charlie. There's a good boy. You seem to dislike foreigners. Some nice racism in your location too. Charming.
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