Davide Astori Southampton target?

[Badger]

Love the Godfather connection! We need Luca Brasi as our CH!

 

John McGrath made Luca Brasi look like a pussycat though.

 

We need 'The Alehouse' .

[Crab Lungs]

I'd recommend, if you get the chance, to have a look at Jean-Armel Kana-Biyik. If he was on our radar, he's the type of domineering centre-half that we might need.

 

That said, Astori is quality too, different type of CB though.

[trousers]

Davide Astori ‏@DavideAstori

Buoni propositi 2013: finire la chees-cake alla fragola, mangiare il panettone al cioccolato che non abbiamo aperto e x finire aprire la bottiglia di champagne che abbiamo fatto finta di non ricordare di averla comprata..ohoh forse non sono tanto BUONI i propositi!

[Smirking_Saint]

Eh ?

[Smirking_Saint]

He is talking about food

[Colinjb]

He is talking about food

 

Implies he may not be, 'Saints fit.'

[trousers]

http://www.tuttomercatoweb.com/?action=read&id=411072

 

ESCLUSIVA TMW - Cagliari, offerta Napoli per Astori: rilancio Southampton

 

02.01.2013 14.20 di Marco Conterio Twitter: @marcoconterio articolo letto 967 volte

 

La redazione di Tuttomercatoweb.comha raccolto interessanti indiscrezioni sul futuro di Davide Astori. Il centrale classe 1987 del Cagliari potrebbe presto lasciare la Sardegna: in Italia il forcing principale è del Napoli. Gli azzurri hanno proposto 7,5 milioni di euro ai rossoblù, ma nei prossimi giorni arriverà una controproposta da parte del Southampton: 10 milioni di euro cash per averlo a gennaio. L'asta è partita, Astori valuta il suo futuro.

 

The drafting has been collecting interesting Tuttomercatoweb.com rumors about the future of Davide Astori. The 1987 class Cagliari Central may soon leave Sardinia: in Italy the main forcing of Naples. The azzurri have offered 7.5 million euros to the rossoblù, but over the next few days will reach a counteroffer from Southampton: 10 million cash for it in January. The auction started, Astori assesses its future.

Edited 2 January, 2013 by trousers

[Albie79]

Which, translated, says...

 

The preparation of Tuttomercatoweb.comha collected interesting rumors about the future of Davide Astori. The central class of 1987 could soon leave Cagliari Sardinia in Italy is the main forcing of Naples. The Azzurri have proposed € 7.5 million to the red and blue, but in the coming days, it will be part of a counter-Southampton: 10 million euro cash for it in January. The auction started, Astori evaluates its future.

[St.Patrik]

Google Translate - not sure anyway I understand what they mean : / The preparation of Tuttomercatoweb.comha collected interesting rumors about the future of Davide Astori. The central class of 1987 could soon leave Cagliari Sardinia in Italy is the main forcing of Naples. The Azzurri have proposed € 7.5 million to the red and blue, but in the coming days, it will be part of a counter-Southampton: 10 million euro cash for it in January. The auction started, Astori evaluates its future

[Restark19]

Google Translate - not sure anyway I understand what they mean : / The preparation of Tuttomercatoweb.comha collected interesting rumors about the future of Davide Astori. The central class of 1987 could soon leave Cagliari Sardinia in Italy is the main forcing of Naples. The Azzurri have proposed € 7.5 million to the red and blue, but in the coming days, it will be part of a counter-Southampton: 10 million euro cash for it in January. The auction started, Astori evaluates its future

 

I think it means that Napoli have made a €7.5m bid but that we've bid 10..? not sure though

[Bananaman]

is that saying that Napoli (Naples/the azzuri-blues) have offered 7.5m for the lad before another/counter offer of 10m from Saints??

[St.Patrik]

Why up the bid from €7.5m to €10m ? Sounds strange......

[Saint Charlie]

It means Napoli have offered 7.5m for him and we will offer 10m euros cash in the coming days?

[Saint Charlie]

Why up the bid from €7.5m to €10m ? Sounds strange......

 

So that we can get the player. By blowing other deals out the water the player effective has no choice of where to move to.

[Restark19]

Why up the bid from €7.5m to €10m ? Sounds strange......

 

Unless when we made the €10m bid we where unaware of Napoli's bid.. definitely seems a bit odd.

 

http://www.football-italia.net/28855/napoli-keen-astori - Napoli definitely appear to be interested though

[Dig Dig]

So that we can get the player. By blowing other deals out the water the player effective has no choice of where to move to.

 

 

And helps us do business early and not play the long game with other clubs

[Smirking_Saint]

So that we can get the player. By blowing other deals out the water the player effective has no choice of where to move to.

 

This, if we have the cash why not, shows intent to, go straight in with top offer and see what happens.

[Thedelldays]

imagine spuking near on £50m and still going down

 

uh oh

[Restark19]

imagine spuking near on £50m and still going down

 

uh oh

 

seriously f*ck off

[Thedelldays]

seriously f*ck off

why...just a throw away comment..a very real possibility and has no bearing on it actually happening

[Dig Dig]

Imagine spuking (?) £50m and staying up.

[Saint Charlie]

Imagine spuking (?) £50m and staying up.

 

Can't dispuke that comment - would be the ideal scenario IMO.

[Restark19]

why...just a throw away comment..a very real possibility and has no bearing on it actually happening

 

I've seen you post the same thing constantly - 'we're spending QPR money' etc.

 

Have you thought about the fact that 1) we can afford to spend this money 2) we have what is effectively a league 1 side 3) it's not easy to make the step up from the championship and to be competitive we need to spend money.. everyone knows that our summer transfer window wasn't brilliant, therefore we do need to spend money this month to make up for it.

[Thedelldays]

I've seen you post the same thing constantly - 'we're spending QPR money' etc.

 

Have you thought about the fact that 1) we can afford to spend this money 2) we have what is effectively a league 1 side 3) it's not easy to make the step up from the championship and to be competitive we need to spend money.. everyone knows that our summer transfer window wasn't brilliant, therefore we do need to spend money this month to make up for it.

 

i know..just pointing out that the money we have spent and looks like adding to is monumental for a newly promoted team...going down with that money spent would be a disaster...it really would

 

adds to the melting pot and intensity to the end of the season...should be fun

[Dig Dig]

I've seen you post the same thing constantly - 'we're spending QPR money' etc.

 

Have you thought about the fact that 1) we can afford to spend this money 2) we have what is effectively a league 1 side 3) it's not easy to make the step up from the championship and to be competitive we need to spend money.. everyone knows that our summer transfer window wasn't brilliant, therefore we do need to spend money this month to make up for it.

 

Spuck off mate

[Saint Charlie]

I've seen you post the same thing constantly - 'we're spending QPR money' etc.

 

Have you thought about the fact that 1) we can afford to spend this money 2) we have what is effectively a league 1 side 3) it's not easy to make the step up from the championship and to be competitive we need to spend money.. everyone knows that our summer transfer window wasn't brilliant, therefore we do need to spend money this month to make up for it.

 

Spock on.

 

Plus we can easily raise lots by selling players if we did end up going down. We could raise 30m very quickly - no dispuking that.

[Restark19]

i know..just pointing out that the money we have spent and looks like adding to is monumental for a newly promoted team...going down with that money spent would be a disaster...it really would

 

adds to the melting pot and intensity to the end of the season...should be fun

 

i don't disagree, just gets a bit repetitive when your constantly pointing this out. with a couple of well thought out signings (i.e. not rushed/panic buys) we should be good enough to finish mid-table.

[tajjuk]

i know..just pointing out that the money we have spent and looks like adding to is monumental for a newly promoted team...going down with that money spent would be a disaster...it really would

 

adds to the melting pot and intensity to the end of the season...should be fun

 

Entirely depends if we can afford it or not will determine it it's a gamble.

 

No way of knowing that now so might as well enjoy the ride.

 

Other clubs fans will damn us either way, spend too much and were doing a 'QPR' or 'Leeds', not spend much and we 'have no money' 'no rich owners' etc.

[The Kraken]

I think I'd spuke if we went down having spent £50M.

[Restark19]

Anyway, apparently Everton and Juventus are also in for Astori - same website suggested his price tag was about €10m

[sfc4prem]

If we went down I'd spuke regardless of the amount of money spent

[Restark19]

although saying that i also saw a report this morning saying Everton can't afford any actual buys and will have to make do with loan signings

[Smirking_Saint]

i don't disagree, just gets a bit repetitive when your constantly pointing this out. with a couple of well thought out signings (i.e. not rushed/panic buys) we should be good enough to finish mid-table.

 

I reckon we are more or less there already TBH a keeper we definately need and another wide man, CB deffo too but this could always be cover as Fonte and Yoshi are starting to look good.

 

I have more concerns that we dont ever seem to carve out many chances.

[Saint Charlie]

I reckon we are more or less there already TBH a keeper we definately need and another wide man, CB deffo too but this could always be cover as Fonte and Yoshi are starting to look good.

 

I have more concerns that we dont ever seem to carve out many chances.

 

Agree - Keeper, wide man and CB of decent quality would be a good window.

[sfc4prem]

I reckon we are more or less there already TBH a keeper we definately need and another wide man, CB deffo too but this could always be cover as Fonte and Yoshi are starting to look good.

 

I have more concerns that we dont ever seem to carve out many chances.

 

Despite the fact we carved out shedloads against the team with the best away defensive record in the Premier League... FFS.

[Saint Charlie]

Completely depends on resale values. Burley spent a lot for the championship, spunked it all on players whose values weren't going to go up, utter disaster. Likewise QPR, huge wages, reasonable amount on fees and mostly players who won't be going up in value, more likely down.

 

Saints have been sensible. Ramirez is a good player, a costly one but he's young and that value can easily go up but isn't likely to go down much. Even a poor season and relegation and he'd fetch 10m you'd imagine. Jrod, a few premier league goals and values get silly for young english players. Yoshida is probably worth more already, as clearly is Clyne. Puncheon, Lallana, Morgan, Cork and Shaw are worth more than ever before as well.

 

So yes, spending a lot, but not in a daft way. Relegation would just mean a depressing sale of talent that no doubt goes on to excel elsewhere and rise further in value.

 

 

True, and sums up the difference between our policy and that of QPR who would struggle to shift average, past it players on huge wages. (Puncheon would be able to leave for free though).

 

If we went down we could sell Ramirez, Lallana, Schneiderlin, Cork, Shaw, Clyne etc the day after.

 

But we won't go down - especially not if we add 3 more players, CB, GK and wide man.

[Restark19]

But we won't go down - especially not if we add 3 more players, CB, GK and wide man.

 

We would be good enough to stay up.. whether we will is a different question.. we need to cut out these individual errors, we should have won yesterday and against stoke.

 

for the record I think we will stay up but we should be a lot more comfortable than we are right now

[Smirking_Saint]

Despite the fact we carved out shedloads against the team with the best away defensive record in the Premier League... FFS.

 

5 chances, mainly from range if I remember rightly, we played very well against the Arse but in general I think we play around with it too much, Stoke was better as we got it into the box more

 

FFS

[S-Clarke]

5 chances, mainly from range if I remember rightly, we played very well against the Arse but in general I think we play around with it too much, Stoke was better as we got it into the box more

 

FFS

 

I do actually share your opinion slightly. We keep the ball well, move it around well, but at times struggle with that final third push to create enough meaningful openings. I think we've got the strikers to put it away, but just a little bit more quality in the final third (i.e wide area's) then we'd be laughing. I know that sounds a bit silly given that the attack has been our best performing area' this year, and we always look like scoring goals, but I think we need to have a little more variation up there. (i.e an explosive burst of pace)

[Restark19]

I do actually share your opinion slightly. We keep the ball well, move it around well, but at times struggle with that final third push to create enough meaningful openings. I think we've got the strikers to put it away, but just a little bit more quality in the final third (i.e wide area's) then we'd be laughing. I know that sounds a bit silly given that the attack has been our best performing area' this year, and we always look like scoring goals, but I think we need to have a little more variation up there. (i.e an explosive burst of pace)

 

it does seem that we've created less chances since AL's injury, haven't seen any stats or anything so have no way of backing this up but I wouldn't be surprised if it was the case

[S-Clarke]

it does seem that we've created less chances since AL's injury, haven't seen any stats or anything so have no way of backing this up but I wouldn't be surprised if it was the case

 

Wouldn't surprise me in the slightest, he's a massive part of our attack. We don't really have a replacement for him.....

 

The fact that SDR is getting game time says it all for me.

[Restark19]

Wouldn't surprise me in the slightest, he's a massive part of our attack. We don't really have a replacement for him.....

 

The fact that SDR is getting game time says it all for me.

 

agreed, he's a huge player for us and we've missed him badly

 

I think SDR playing may be a case of putting him in the shop window in the hope that a championship club comes along this month

[The Kraken]

I do actually share your opinion slightly. We keep the ball well, move it around well, but at times struggle with that final third push to create enough meaningful openings. I think we've got the strikers to put it away, but just a little bit more quality in the final third (i.e wide area's) then we'd be laughing. I know that sounds a bit silly given that the attack has been our best performing area' this year, and we always look like scoring goals, but I think we need to have a little more variation up there. (i.e an explosive burst of pace)

 

It also strikes me that many of our players have a reluctance to shoot from distance; even from nearly the edge of the box we prefer to play our way through. This was expecially noticable against Fulham, when it was p*ssing down and a really slippy surface, we just didn't ever want to try our luck with a shot that bounced in front of the keeper. Given we see so few shots I'm inclined to believe its being coached into the players.

 

In the lower leagues Lambert and others were more than willing to chance their arm from distance. I don't think they're anywhere near as keen in the PL.

[KelvinsRightGlove]

True, and sums up the difference between our policy and that of QPR who would struggle to shift average, past it players on huge wages. (Puncheon would be able to leave for free though).

 

If we went down we could sell Ramirez, Lallana, Schneiderlin, Cork, Shaw, Clyne etc the day after.

 

But we won't go down - especially not if we add 3 more players, CB, GK and wide man.

 

Well said that man

[Smirking_Saint]

I do actually share your opinion slightly. We keep the ball well, move it around well, but at times struggle with that final third push to create enough meaningful openings. I think we've got the strikers to put it away, but just a little bit more quality in the final third (i.e wide area's) then we'd be laughing. I know that sounds a bit silly given that the attack has been our best performing area' this year, and we always look like scoring goals, but I think we need to have a little more variation up there. (i.e an explosive burst of pace)

 

Basically this really, Lambert has been playing deep too, you can see how effective he is when you get the ball to him in the box by looking at last year and against Stoke, we seem to try so hard in the build up though, giving the oppo time to regroup but also sometimes I just think get it in there !!

 

When J Rod came on he certainly gave us more movement up front, and Im not saying Lambert cant find those positions, he just doesnt seem to be this year.

[Saint Garrett]

We barely score for out of the box last season so id say its definitely something that has come in with NA.

[Saint Charlie]

http://www.tuttomercatoweb.com/?action=read&id=411072

 

The Journalist who wrote that told me that:

 

In three days the offer (from Saints) will be formalized. We think in the coming days there will be certain updates.

[itchen_dan]

From what I can gather about the situation is that in the next 2/3 days, we will be going in with an offer of €10m which will be too much for Napoli to bid against.

 

Be interesting to see how this one develops. Seems a bit pricey for my liking if I'm honest with you but if it gets us £90m+ next season of PL TV money then go for it.

[Badger]

Why up the bid from €7.5m to €10m ? Sounds strange......

 

So that we can get the player. By blowing other deals out the water the player effective has no choice of where to move to.

 

Wrong.If the player refuses to accept our terms - as he wants to go elsewhere - then our bid is irrelevant, and his current club have to consider the bid from Napoli or whoever.They could of course tell him its Southampton at 10m or you're staying here, but given what we're reading about the financial situation at his current club that seems unlikely.

 

Didn't we experience this a couple of windows ago with someone else ?

 

 

From what I can gather about the situation is that in the next 2/3 days, we will be going in with an offer of €10m which will be too much for Napoli to bid against.

 

Be interesting to see how this one develops. Seems a bit pricey for my liking if I'm honest with you but if it gets us £90m+ next season of PL TV money then go for it.

 

Inclined to agree, but with the £90m at stake ?

[suewhistle]

From the Italian quote it says that the main interest in Italy is from Napoli, but that the counteroffer from Saints is to have the player in January. I suspect the generosity of our offer is conditional on that happening.