Saint_clark Posted 7 January, 2013 Posted 7 January, 2013 Don't you start... Hardly on here anymore so I don't keep track of things like this. Last I heard the Italian press were saying he'd signed a contract with us.
Turkish Posted 7 January, 2013 Posted 7 January, 2013 Hardly on here anymore so I don't keep track of things like this. Last I heard the Italian press were saying he'd signed a contract with us. Medical i guess?
Saint_clark Posted 7 January, 2013 Posted 7 January, 2013 Medical i guess? Maybe, but this was about 3 or 4 days ago now I think. They were probably just getting ahead of themselves - doubt we've even agreed upon a fee with his club.
Olallana Posted 7 January, 2013 Posted 7 January, 2013 Maybe, but this was about 3 or 4 days ago now I think. They were probably just getting ahead of themselves - doubt we've even agreed upon a fee with his club. Who are they?? Certainly no words from the club out so who are they??
Turkish Posted 7 January, 2013 Posted 7 January, 2013 His own fans seem confident he will be leaving... http://www.cagliaricalcio.net/news/14001/buon-compleanno-davide-.html "send greetings to our almost ex-player, because it is certain, however, that goes away in a meaningless team in the English league" Because Cagliari have always set Serie A alight!!
Window Cleaner Posted 7 January, 2013 Posted 7 January, 2013 Maybe, but this was about 3 or 4 days ago now I think. They were probably just getting ahead of themselves - doubt we've even agreed upon a fee with his club. we certainly have not, there are 3 known (in theory) bidders and they're all way off the ante if you believe the Italian Press.
Frank's cousin Posted 7 January, 2013 Posted 7 January, 2013 Because Cagliari have always set Serie A alight!! Weer Ok in the mid 70s - lived in Cagliari for a couple of years as a kid and went a couple of times with the old man - They had Cousio (?) Italian international then... but memory is hazy as was only 7/8 at the time....
Saint_clark Posted 7 January, 2013 Posted 7 January, 2013 Who are they?? Certainly no words from the club out so who are they?? I saw a few quotes on this thread from Italian journalists or some such saying that the deal was as good as done.
sussexsaint Posted 7 January, 2013 Posted 7 January, 2013 Because Cagliari have always set Serie A alight!! They are just smarting because their prize asset is not going somewhere perceived as a 'massive step up' from them. Makes it easier to swallow when players go to bigger and better things. It would be like if we sold lallana to Wigan
saints_is_the_south Posted 7 January, 2013 Posted 7 January, 2013 http://www.goal.com/it/news/1942/esclusiveinterviste/2013/01/07/3654857/il-liverpool-si-fa-sotto-con-il-cagliari-per-astori-ma-al?source=breakingnews Saints have an agreement with Astori. 3yr deal worth €2m net per season. Likely to be a contract termination clause in the event of relegation included (similar to that in Ramirez's contract). Now we have to find an agreement with Cagliari. We offer £8m (or €10m). Not much we don't know, other than there is now a contract term and wages per season.
DT Posted 7 January, 2013 Posted 7 January, 2013 You said exactly the same about the Ramirez deal, almost word for word.At least I'm consistent! Hopefully the same outcome too! Think this is more crucial than the Ramirez deal, though.
Crazy Diamond Posted 7 January, 2013 Posted 7 January, 2013 http://www.goal.com/it/news/1942/esclusiveinterviste/2013/01/07/3654857/il-liverpool-si-fa-sotto-con-il-cagliari-per-astori-ma-al?source=breakingnews Saints have an agreement with Astori. 3yr deal worth €2m net per season. Likely to be a contract termination clause in the event of relegation included (similar to that in Ramirez's contract). Now we have to find an agreement with Cagliari. We offer £8m (or €10m). Not much we don't know, other than there is now a contract term and wages per season. Contract termination?! I'd understand letting them go at a cut price if we went down but releasing them?!
Essruu Posted 7 January, 2013 Posted 7 January, 2013 I don't know much about this fella. I'd just like us to sign him: so I can taunt some Liverpool fans that they couldn't compete with us in the transfer market for Ramirez or Astori.
saints_is_the_south Posted 7 January, 2013 Posted 7 January, 2013 Contract termination?! I'd understand letting them go at a cut price if we went down but releasing them?! I am not 100% on it but it says something like Saints have guaranteed a relegation clause in the contract which entitles it to be terminated for the same amount as the cost of acquisition. Who has to pay, Astori or Saints I am unsure! Checking with an Italian friend now.
Giordano Posted 7 January, 2013 Posted 7 January, 2013 (edited) http://www.goal.com/it/news/1942/esclusiveinterviste/2013/01/07/3654857/il-liverpool-si-fa-sotto-con-il-cagliari-per-astori-ma-al?source=breakingnews Saints have an agreement with Astori. 3yr deal worth €2m net per season. Likely to be a contract termination clause in the event of relegation included (similar to that in Ramirez's contract). Now we have to find an agreement with Cagliari. We offer £8m (or €10m). Not much we don't know, other than there is now a contract term and wages per season. The contract termination clause is a new one for me. I did not know for certain that it existed for ramirez but apparently the same deal is being offered for astori. It sounds to me that there is a relegation clause which allows us to cancel the contract and sell him for what we paid if we get relegated, but is it? And why is that so good? The Italian paper regards that as an "ingenious" clause but i don't really understand whats so ingenious about it. If we go down Astori and Ramirez are unlikely to want to play ccc football, so i am assuming that this ingenious clause is nothing more or less than the same thing that Demba Ba had- ie if we get a bid equal to what we paid for those players then that triggers an access clause so they are allowed to talk to the other club. Is that anybody else's translation / understanding of the last part? Edited 7 January, 2013 by Giordano
Nigel=God-Poyet=Sod Posted 7 January, 2013 Posted 7 January, 2013 About 50k a week then... Not to sound pedantic but it's slightly less than 40k a week in euros. Not sure of exchange rate but probably closer to 30k. It's a lot, if true, but not in comparison to some.
Matthew Le God Posted 7 January, 2013 Posted 7 January, 2013 Contract termination?! I'd understand letting them go at a cut price if we went down but releasing them?! The article says the relegation clause would be equal to the cost of purchase.
Saint Charlie Posted 7 January, 2013 Posted 7 January, 2013 So basically Ramirez and Astori have/would have a release clause in the event of relegation meaning we would let them go if we get our money back. Sounds fair enough. Imagine thats standard, but a good idea and helps to entice the player.
Saint Garrett Posted 7 January, 2013 Posted 7 January, 2013 Interesting. Think that's the same kind of clause Demba Ba had at West Ham, hence him leaving WHU for free.
Saint Charlie Posted 7 January, 2013 Posted 7 January, 2013 Interesting. Think that's the same kind of clause Demba Ba had at West Ham, hence him leaving WHU for free. Apart from he left for free. This would be a min fee clause that says if someone offers what we paid then we will sell. The wages obviously help but we seem to be able to attract good players!
Saint Garrett Posted 7 January, 2013 Posted 7 January, 2013 Not to sound pedantic but it's slightly less than 40k a week in euros. Not sure of exchange rate but probably closer to 30k. It's a lot, if true, but not in comparison to some. I was working it out before tax. Meant its actually about €48k a week
Frank's cousin Posted 7 January, 2013 Posted 7 January, 2013 Not to sound pedantic but it's slightly less than 40k a week in euros. Not sure of exchange rate but probably closer to 30k. It's a lot, if true, but not in comparison to some. Especially when you consider Beatts was on that back in 2003 with all the add ons and bonuses...
Nigel=God-Poyet=Sod Posted 7 January, 2013 Posted 7 January, 2013 I was working it out before tax. Meant its actually about €48k a week How are you working that out? 2,000,000/52 = 38,461 in euros.
Giordano Posted 7 January, 2013 Posted 7 January, 2013 Incidentally this would double or possibly treble his current wage, he is on $1m per year at Cagliari - not sure if that is net or gross though, if its gross our $2m net deal would be a 300% increase. For three years. What's not to like? If someone came up to you and said - go play football in England for 3 years and we will treble your money, guaranteed, would you say- but are you Liverpool? You'd say, where do i sign. Nobody is going to pay him that in Italy right now, but if Liverpool match our offer its a different matter. Wages surely not a problem and surely £9.5m isnt a problem either given what they spent on Sturridge...all to play for, and of course there's the ruskies.....its not over by a long way, but if we get him, like Ramirez, he ain't a benchwarmer, has to start, along with Coutinho of course :-)
DT Posted 7 January, 2013 Posted 7 January, 2013 Incidentally this would double or possibly treble his current wage, he is on $1m per year at Cagliari - not sure if that is net or gross though, if its gross our $2m net deal would be a 300% increase. For three years. What's not to like? If someone came up to you and said - go play football in England for 3 years and we will treble your money, guaranteed, would you say- but are you Liverpool? Perhaps he might be keen to play for one of the world's most famous clubs? (Or failing that, Liverpool) arf
Saint Garrett Posted 7 January, 2013 Posted 7 January, 2013 How are you working that out? 2,000,000/52 = 38,461 in euros. Says in the article it will be €2m Net.
Frank's cousin Posted 7 January, 2013 Posted 7 January, 2013 Should not underestimate the value to the player of a regular starting place - even if the long term its only as a shop window for bigger clubs and better deals - as long as we get good value from the player and a decent sellling price, its not a bad thing, although would like to think eventually that we have the chance to hold out longer as we flirt with sucess
Window Cleaner Posted 7 January, 2013 Posted 7 January, 2013 Says in the article it will be €2m Net. means the club have to find about what 4 million € a season then after tax and charges.
Nigel=God-Poyet=Sod Posted 7 January, 2013 Posted 7 January, 2013 Says in the article it will be €2m Net. Fair enough, I apologise. It seems to be gathering pace this one, I hope the end result will be a good one like Ramirez in the summer.
Saint Garrett Posted 7 January, 2013 Posted 7 January, 2013 Fair enough, I apologise. It seems to be gathering pace this one, I hope the end result will be a good one like Ramirez in the summer. Don't we all
Turkish Posted 7 January, 2013 Posted 7 January, 2013 Weer Ok in the mid 70s - lived in Cagliari for a couple of years as a kid and went a couple of times with the old man - They had Cousio (?) Italian international then... but memory is hazy as was only 7/8 at the time.... The Sardinian Saints then!
Turkish Posted 7 January, 2013 Posted 7 January, 2013 Not to sound pedantic but it's slightly less than 40k a week in euros. Not sure of exchange rate but probably closer to 30k. It's a lot, if true, but not in comparison to some. Live Exchange rate is 0.81 Pounds to the Euro or 1.22 the other way round. We use this at work to check http://www.xe.com/
St.Patrik Posted 7 January, 2013 Posted 7 January, 2013 No heavy spending says Inter Milans chirman - says much about the Italian football at the mo. http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/12691/8384960/Inter-Milan-insist-there-will-be-no-heavy-spending-in-January-transfer-window
Deanovski Posted 7 January, 2013 Posted 7 January, 2013 Southampton are expected to announce the signing of Cagliari centre-back Davide Astori imminently, Goal.com understands. http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2892/transfer-zone/2013/01/07/3655108/southampton-set-to-sign-cagliaris-davide-astori?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
MOSaint Posted 7 January, 2013 Posted 7 January, 2013 Southampton are expected to announce the signing of Cagliari centre-back Davide Astori imminently, Goal.com understands. http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2892/transfer-zone/2013/01/07/3655108/southampton-set-to-sign-cagliaris-davide-astori?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter Sounds like a good bit of news, but I'd wait for somewhere more credible than goal.com to report it before getting too excited.
Saint Garrett Posted 7 January, 2013 Posted 7 January, 2013 Southampton are expected to announce the signing of Cagliari centre-back Davide Astori imminently, Goal.com understands. http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2892/transfer-zone/2013/01/07/3655108/southampton-set-to-sign-cagliaris-davide-astori?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter Wouldn't expect they know anything, they just copy what everyone else says then put their own twist on it. Don't have any of their own sources.
pangy Posted 7 January, 2013 Posted 7 January, 2013 I would imagine the relegation clause would allow us to re-coup our money laid out,but the players wage would probably half as no doubt they have a clause to take a 50% cut if relegated ,if nobody took the bait and came in for them that would leave us with a ridiculous team for the championship,and with receiving parachute payments that may subsidise the wages?
SaintNeil90 Posted 7 January, 2013 Posted 7 January, 2013 Southampton are expected to announce the signing of Cagliari centre-back Davide Astori imminently, Goal.com understands. http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2892/transfer-zone/2013/01/07/3655108/southampton-set-to-sign-cagliaris-davide-astori?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter Some good info there, hopefully true.
Crazy Diamond Posted 7 January, 2013 Posted 7 January, 2013 Sounds like a good bit of news, but I'd wait for somewhere more credible than goal.com to report it before getting too excited. Goal have a lot of ex-BBC journos on their books. The BBC never break news unless they're certain, so hopefully they've taken that tradition with them...
Faz Posted 7 January, 2013 Posted 7 January, 2013 Can we please mobilise our New Forest Hotel spy network?
Colinjb Posted 7 January, 2013 Posted 7 January, 2013 Can we please mobilise our New Forest Hotel spy network? Don't forget our Taxi driving informers.
ottery st mary Posted 7 January, 2013 Posted 7 January, 2013 Pizza delivery boy seen going into St Marys stadium short while ago:rolleyes: Ticket on his motor bike for parking it in our car park;) Good revenue stream that car park:D
Crazy Diamond Posted 7 January, 2013 Posted 7 January, 2013 Pizza delivery boy seen going into St Marys stadium short while ago:rolleyes: Ticket on his motor bike for parking it in our car park;) Good revenue stream that car park:D Toppings?
ottery st mary Posted 7 January, 2013 Posted 7 January, 2013 Toppings? Meat Feast and Ham/Pineapple...... Sawce?...Man at Tesco.
for_heaven's_Saint Posted 7 January, 2013 Posted 7 January, 2013 Doesn't really mean anything until we start hearing that the clubs have reached an agreement.
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