Morph Posted 4 January, 2013 Posted 4 January, 2013 Friend of mine is Italian, probs knows him Why not ask him directly https://twitter.com/DavideAstori .
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 4 January, 2013 Posted 4 January, 2013 If thus one turns out to be true, it will be one of the best signings we've seen at the club. The guy has class beyond what we really see in the Prem (in relation to on the ball ability).
CaneNero Posted 4 January, 2013 Posted 4 January, 2013 He's not in the side for Cagliari's game tomorrow so it's safe to say he's moving somewhere, and I'd assume it'd be us.
The Kraken Posted 4 January, 2013 Posted 4 January, 2013 http://m.tuttojuve.com/?action=read&idnotizia=123573 Astori greets Italy and goes to Southampton 04/01/2013 23:00 by Mirko Time article read 207 times Davide Astori will be a new player of Southampton. The 26 year old defender of Cagliari, which in recent weeks had been approached to Naples, leaving the Serie A and the Premier chooses a surprise as the next football adventure. In reporting the news is the drafting of Sportmediaset, which emphasizes that the agreement between the England team and Cagliari has been reached on the basis of 10 million. With the shirt of Southampton, Astori rediscover an old acquaintance of Italian football, the former Bologna Gaston Ramirez who went to St. last summer. [Astori saluta l'Italia e va al Southampton 04.01.2013 23:00 di Mirko Fusi articolo letto 207 volte Davide Astori sarà un nuovo giocatore del Southampton. Il 26enne difensore del Cagliari, che nelle scorse settimane era stato accostato al Napoli, abbandona la Serie A e sceglie a sorpresa la Premier come prossima avventura calcistica. A riportare la notizia è la redazione di Sportmediaset, che sottolinea come l'accordo tra la squadra inglese e il Cagliari sia stato raggiunto sulla base di 10 milioni. Con la maglia del Southampton, Astori ritroverà una vecchia conoscenza del calcio italiano, l'ex Bologna Gaston Ramirez che passò ai Saint la scorsa estate. ]
Saint_Ash Posted 4 January, 2013 Posted 4 January, 2013 If thus one turns out to be true, it will be one of the best signings we've seen at the club. The guy has class beyond what we really see in the Prem (in relation to on the ball ability). How often have you seen him play? Like most others on here I've never really heard of him so be interesting to hear from people who have seen him regularly.
The Kraken Posted 4 January, 2013 Posted 4 January, 2013 From a Serie A analyst on Twitter: @jackrathborn: Southampton in for Cagliari's Davide Astori, some smart scouts at that club, big upgrade on what they have #Saints @jackrathborn: @KristianSFCoake he's excellent, former Milan youth product, and should've returned to them last summer. Would walk into their XI now. @jackrathborn: I've watched every minute he's played since start of last season. Quality centre back, has ability on the ball, very classy.
for_heaven's_Saint Posted 4 January, 2013 Posted 4 January, 2013 He's not in the side for Cagliari's game tomorrow so it's safe to say he's moving somewhere, and I'd assume it'd be us. Been discussed, he's suspended.
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 4 January, 2013 Posted 4 January, 2013 How often have you seen him play? Like most others on here I've never really heard of him so be interesting to hear from people who have seen him regularly. I saw him ore last season than this admittedly, but then looking at Cagliari's defence this season it seems his form is still very good. Ball playing CB but tough in the tackle, think of the old style Italian CB's (the sweepers). Very excited IF this happens.
SuperMikey Posted 4 January, 2013 Posted 4 January, 2013 Why not ask him directly https://twitter.com/DavideAstori . See he retweeted Albin Ekdal - wonder if he could persuade Nicola to stump up for him as well? Fantastic player, our midfield with him in it would be incredible..
Saint_clark Posted 4 January, 2013 Posted 4 January, 2013 So the Italian press are talking like it's already a done deal? Didn't they get ahead of themselves with Ramirez as well, or was that only held up because of the whole third party payments thing?
student Posted 4 January, 2013 Posted 4 January, 2013 My oh my, would be a great coup. If you can get him and sign someone else in midfield then there is no chance you'll be going down. Love him or hate him, Cortese really does want the club to succeed. Astori gives you the ability to have extra cover at both RB and LB, RB is Clyne is out then Yoshida can come in and LB if Fox and Shaw are out then Clyne can swap to the left and Yoshida on the right.
Olallana Posted 4 January, 2013 Posted 4 January, 2013 See he retweeted Albin Ekdal - wonder if he could persuade Nicola to stump up for him as well? Fantastic player, our midfield with him in it would be incredible.. Just curious, from where/what do you rate Albin Ekdal that high?
Saint_clark Posted 4 January, 2013 Posted 4 January, 2013 Is this guy really that good? Never heard of him until this thread.
Saint Scott Posted 4 January, 2013 Posted 4 January, 2013 So the Italian press are talking like it's already a done deal? Didn't they get ahead of themselves with Ramirez as well, or was that only held up because of the whole third party payments thing? From what I remember they said about a fortnight prior it was done before the os announcement. Turned out to be true in the end there was just a few little complications. Do we know if there has actually been a bid from us or just the Italian journos speculating?
for_heaven's_Saint Posted 4 January, 2013 Posted 4 January, 2013 Is this guy really that good? Never heard of him until this thread. He's 80 on FIFA FFS.
Olallana Posted 4 January, 2013 Posted 4 January, 2013 From what I remember they said about a fortnight prior it was done before the os announcement. Turned out to be true in the end there was just a few little complications. Do we know if there has actually been a bid from us or just the Italian journos speculating? It has for sure been a bid from us and probably just paperworks from being ready when Italian journos write it the way they have done this time. The clubs work very close to the journos in Italy so for me it sounds like a done deal.
trousers Posted 4 January, 2013 Posted 4 January, 2013 Further down the page it does say he's suspended from 22.12.2012 until 06.01.2013. One game suspension for two yellows against Juventus in their last match. Bang goes our chances in the fair play league if he signs
Olallana Posted 4 January, 2013 Posted 4 January, 2013 Bang goes our chances in the fair play league if he signs Haha true, but are England close to getting one of those spots?
Colinjb Posted 4 January, 2013 Posted 4 January, 2013 He's 80 on FIFA FFS. Never mind that. What about his football manager stats?
lloydie Posted 5 January, 2013 Posted 5 January, 2013 foxtrot oscar... think ,about it. Alpha,Bravo,Charlie etc. Got ya, i thought you were implying something about a footballer called oscar eg: the at Chelsea... Admittedly in nappies at the time but still!
Saint Scott Posted 5 January, 2013 Posted 5 January, 2013 Never mind that. What about his football manager stats? Was just about to post this, we all know FM stats are gospel
Colinjb Posted 5 January, 2013 Posted 5 January, 2013 Was just about to post this, we all know FM stats are gospel Holy sh!! t!!!
Saint Scott Posted 5 January, 2013 Posted 5 January, 2013 Holy sh!! t!!! I scouted him, got a bid accepted at £8.5million but he wasn't interested in opening contract negotiations. Time to move on...
Turkish Posted 5 January, 2013 Posted 5 January, 2013 Holy sh!! t!!! I know what you mean Col. A lazy f*ker who loses concentration easily and will be no good in a penalty shoot out. No better than Martin and older by the looks of it.
Colinjb Posted 5 January, 2013 Posted 5 January, 2013 Is that good?! That is! Its all out of 20. He would on that basis be good enough for most clubs in the world, just the absolute elite would be beyond him.
NickG Posted 5 January, 2013 Posted 5 January, 2013 Was just about to post this, we all know FM stats are gospel How does that compare with our CBs and decent established prem ones?
patred44 Posted 5 January, 2013 Posted 5 January, 2013 it's most likely that Yoshida's place that is in jeopardy, as Adkins has often stated he likes one right footed and one left footed centre backs.. Astori is completely left footed
Olallana Posted 5 January, 2013 Posted 5 January, 2013 hopefully this spells the end of Guly? true, they are fighting for the same position in the team..... too bad as I rate Guly. 1st sentence not so serious 2nd sentence, actually very serious.
Glasgow_Saint Posted 5 January, 2013 Posted 5 January, 2013 true, they are fighting for the same position in the team..... too bad as I rate Guly. 1st sentence not so serious 2nd sentence, actually very serious. let's not turn this into another Guly thread please
Saint_clark Posted 5 January, 2013 Posted 5 January, 2013 it's most likely that Yoshida's place that is in jeopardy, as Adkins has often stated he likes one right footed and one left footed centre backs.. Astori is completely left footed Well on the basis of the last couple of games Yoshida is undroppable.
Tokyo-Saint Posted 5 January, 2013 Posted 5 January, 2013 Is this another Cortese signing or does Adkins play football manager? Can anyone on twitter confirm please?
Saint Scott Posted 5 January, 2013 Posted 5 January, 2013 (edited) How does that compare with our CBs and decent established prem ones? [table=width: 500, align: center] [tr] [td] Astori Technical Corners 6 Crossing 8 Dribbling 12 Finishing 10 First Touch 15 Free Kick Taking 8 Heading 16 Long Shots 5 Long Throws 14 Marking 15 Passing 14 Penalty Taking 5 Tackling 18 Technique 16 Mental Aggression 18 Anticipation 15 Bravery 15 Composure 14 Concentration 13 Creativity 10 Decisions 13 Determination 16 Flair 8 Influence 15 Off The Ball 8 Positioning 14 Teamwork 12 Work Rate 10 Physical Acceleration 14 Agility 12 Balance 15 Jumping 15 Natural Fitness 16 Pace 12 Stamina 14 Strength 14 [/td] [td] Fonte Technical Corners 6 Crossing 7 Dribbling 11 Finishing 9 First Touch 12 Free Kick Taking 9 Heading 15 Long Shots 8 Long Throws 10 Marking 13 Passing 10 Penalty Taking 8 Tackling 14 Technique 13 Mental Aggression 14 Anticipation 12 Bravery 12 Composure 15 Concentration 13 Creativity 10 Decisions 10 Determination 14 Flair 10 Influence 14 Off The Ball 11 Positioning 13 Teamwork 13 Work Rate 14 Physical Acceleration 11 Agility 12 Balance 13 Jumping 16 Natural Fitness 15 Pace 12 Stamina 12 Strength 15 [/td] [td] Yoshida Technical Corners 7 Crossing 11 Dribbling 9 Finishing 9 First Touch 13 Free Kick Taking 11 Heading 12 Long Shots 9 Long Throws 8 Marking 13 Passing 12 Penalty Taking 9 Tackling 12 Technique 12 Mental Aggression 8 Anticipation 14 Bravery 14 Composure 12 Concentration 11 Creativity 13 Decisions 11 Determination 14 Flair 13 Influence 12 Off The Ball 12 Positioning 14 Teamwork 13 Work Rate 10 Physical Acceleration 11 Agility 13 Balance 13 Jumping 13 Natural Fitness 13 Pace 13 Stamina 13 Strength 12 [/td] [/tr] [/table] Key areas are in red. Edited 5 January, 2013 by Saint Scott
Matthew Le God Posted 5 January, 2013 Posted 5 January, 2013 Never mind that. What about his football manager stats? Was just about to post this, we all know FM stats are gospel Holy sh!! t!!! Is that good?! That is! Its all out of 20. He would on that basis be good enough for most clubs in the world, just the absolute elite would be beyond him. How does that compare with our CBs and decent established prem ones? If he signs, he will be our best player on Football Manager 2013. Above Ramirez, Lallana and Lambert.
Tokyo-Saint Posted 5 January, 2013 Posted 5 January, 2013 Ah but is his PA above 175? That is the question we should all be asking. Maybe would could have a song about it against chelsea. I'm in Japan at the moment so won't make the game. Can Turkish or Glasgow stand in on my behalf and start this one off?
Saints4Prem Posted 5 January, 2013 Posted 5 January, 2013 He does look a bit useful but you are missing the obvious he gets a 4 for goalkeeping where will that put him
Matthew Le God Posted 5 January, 2013 Posted 5 January, 2013 Ah but is his PA above 175? That is the question we should all be asking. Maybe would could have a song about it against chelsea. I'm in Japan at the moment so won't make the game. Can Turkish or Glasgow stand in on my behalf and start this one off? Ramirez still has a higher PA. So no need for a song.
Tokyo-Saint Posted 5 January, 2013 Posted 5 January, 2013 Ah cheers MLG. That's a weight off my mind. What is his PA out of interest? Would look it up myself but as I said, I'm away at the moment.
for_heaven's_Saint Posted 5 January, 2013 Posted 5 January, 2013 He does look a bit useful but you are missing the obvious he gets a 4 for goalkeeping where will that put him Above Davis and Gazzaniga.
Saint Scott Posted 5 January, 2013 Posted 5 January, 2013 (edited) Little bit of comparison... [table=width: 500, align: center] [tr] [td] RED: Best YELLOW: Second Best GREEN: Worst [/td] [/tr] [/table] [table=width: 500, align: center] [tr] [td] ASTORI Technical Corners 6 Crossing 8 Dribbling 12 Finishing 10 First Touch 15 Free Kick Taking 8 Heading 16 Long Shots 5 Long Throws 14 Marking 15 Passing 14 Penalty Taking 5 Tackling 18 Technique 16 Mental Aggression 18 Anticipation 15 Bravery 15 Composure 14 Concentration 13 Creativity 10 Decisions 13 Determination 16 Flair 8 Influence 15 Off The Ball 8 Positioning 14 Teamwork 12 Work Rate 10 Physical Acceleration 14 Agility 12 Balance 15 Jumping 15 Natural Fitness 16 Pace 12 Stamina 14 Strength 14 [/td] [td] FONTE Technical Corners 6 Crossing 7 Dribbling 11 Finishing 9 First Touch 12 Free Kick Taking 9 Heading 15 Long Shots 8 Long Throws 10 Marking 13 Passing 10 Penalty Taking 8 Tackling 14 Technique 13 Mental Aggression 14 Anticipation 12 Bravery 12 Composure 15 Concentration 13 Creativity 10 Decisions 10 Determination 14 Flair 10 Influence 14 Off The Ball 11 Positioning 13 Teamwork 13 Work Rate 14 Physical Acceleration 11 Agility 12 Balance 13 Jumping 16 Natural Fitness 15 Pace 12 Stamina 12 Strength 15 [/td] [td] YOSHIDA Technical Corners 7 Crossing 11 Dribbling 9 Finishing 9 First Touch 13 Free Kick Taking 11 Heading 12 Long Shots 9 Long Throws 8 Marking 13 Passing 12 Penalty Taking 9 Tackling 12 Technique 12 Mental Aggression 8 Anticipation 14 Bravery 14 Composure 12 Concentration 11 Creativity 13 Decisions 11 Determination 14 Flair 13 Influence 12 Off The Ball 12 Positioning 14 Teamwork 13 Work Rate 10 Physical Acceleration 11 Agility 13 Balance 13 Jumping 13 Natural Fitness 13 Pace 13 Stamina 13 Strength 12 [/td] [/tr] [/table] Edited 5 January, 2013 by Saint Scott
austsaint Posted 5 January, 2013 Posted 5 January, 2013 hopefully this spells the end of Guly? Beyond moronic, (your endless anti Guly campaign). Signing of Astori would be a cracker.
Turkish Posted 5 January, 2013 Posted 5 January, 2013 If he signs, he will be our best player on Football Manager 2013. Above Ramirez, Lallana and Lambert. This is amazing news.
jawillwill Posted 5 January, 2013 Posted 5 January, 2013 Little bit of comparison... [table=width: 500, align: center] [tr] [td] RED: Best YELLOW: Second Best GREEN: Worst [/td] [/tr] [/table] [table=width: 500, align: center] [tr] [td] ASTORI Technical Corners 6 Crossing 8 Dribbling 12 Finishing 10 First Touch 15 Free Kick Taking 8 Heading 16 Long Shots 5 Long Throws 14 Marking 15 Passing 14 Penalty Taking 5 Tackling 18 Technique 16 Mental Aggression 18 Anticipation 15 Bravery 15 Composure 14 Concentration 13 Creativity 10 Decisions 13 Determination 16 Flair 8 Influence 15 Off The Ball 8 Positioning 14 Teamwork 12 Work Rate 10 Physical Acceleration 14 Agility 12 Balance 15 Jumping 15 Natural Fitness 16 Pace 12 Stamina 14 Strength 14 [/td] [td] FONTE Technical Corners 6 Crossing 7 Dribbling 11 Finishing 9 First Touch 12 Free Kick Taking 9 Heading 15 Long Shots 8 Long Throws 10 Marking 13 Passing 10 Penalty Taking 8 Tackling 14 Technique 13 Mental Aggression 14 Anticipation 12 Bravery 12 Composure 15 Concentration 13 Creativity 10 Decisions 10 Determination 14 Flair 10 Influence 14 Off The Ball 11 Positioning 13 Teamwork 13 Work Rate 14 Physical Acceleration 11 Agility 12 Balance 13 Jumping 16 Natural Fitness 15 Pace 12 Stamina 12 Strength 15 [/td] [td] YOSHIDA Technical Corners 7 Crossing 11 Dribbling 9 Finishing 9 First Touch 13 Free Kick Taking 11 Heading 12 Long Shots 9 Long Throws 8 Marking 13 Passing 12 Penalty Taking 9 Tackling 12 Technique 12 Mental Aggression 8 Anticipation 14 Bravery 14 Composure 12 Concentration 11 Creativity 13 Decisions 11 Determination 14 Flair 13 Influence 12 Off The Ball 12 Positioning 14 Teamwork 13 Work Rate 10 Physical Acceleration 11 Agility 13 Balance 13 Jumping 13 Natural Fitness 13 Pace 13 Stamina 13 Strength 12 [/td] [/tr] [/table] Can you change this so that Green = best, red=middle and yellow =worst. Thanks.
Saint Scott Posted 5 January, 2013 Posted 5 January, 2013 Can you change this so that Green = best, red=middle and yellow =worst. Thanks. No.
SuperMikey Posted 5 January, 2013 Posted 5 January, 2013 Just curious, from where/what do you rate Albin Ekdal that high? Seen him play for Bologna on the net a few times, Sweden too. He's part-owned by Juve, odd he's not getting more of a look in there tbh.
The9 Posted 5 January, 2013 Posted 5 January, 2013 My oh my, would be a great coup. If you can get him and sign someone else in midfield then there is no chance you'll be going down. Love him or hate him, Cortese really does want the club to succeed. Astori gives you the ability to have extra cover at both RB and LB, RB is Clyne is out then Yoshida can come in and LB if Fox and Shaw are out then Clyne can swap to the left and Yoshida on the right. I never want to see Yoshida play full back again thanks. I have my reservations about Cork there, that Arsenal performance was about 1000% better than every other time he's played there.
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