Has Adkins got anything right since the end of last season

[tttdcs]

I thought it was me that posted shi%$

 

do you use the same computer ?

[Faz]

There are strong rumours that ive heard from a couple of different sources that Adkins had a deal agreed for Robert Huth in the summer and Cortese refused to rubber stamp it. I'm not claiming this to be FACT just passing on what ive been told and no, I'm no revealing my sources and I don't give a sh*t if you beleive it or not.

 

I entirely accept that we might have feelers out for a number of players. Some we get, and some we don't. I don't believe that to be any different to any other club. It must be difficult to get an established PL player to move to a newly promoted club, accept a contract that includes a relegation clause etc etc.

 

I don't believe Adkins would agree a deal for a player. He will undoubtedly have a huge hand in identifying targets, and Huth could well have been one of many.

[Turkish]

I entirely accept that we might have feelers out for a number of players. Some we get, and some we don't. I don't believe that to be any different to any other club. It must be difficult to get an established PL player to move to a newly promoted club, accept a contract that includes a relegation clause etc etc.

 

I don't believe Adkins would agree a deal for a player. He will undoubtedly have a huge hand in identifying targets, and Huth could well have been one of many.

 

As I said I'm not saying it as FACT but I was told a similar version of events From two different people who dont know each other, one has connections at SFC the other doesn't. I'm not 100% sure of all the details but in essence Adkins did all the leg work on the deal with the permission of the committee and had it agreed with Player and club, passed it to Cortese who dithered and then refused to agree it for whatever reason. Just what I was told.

[alpine_saint]

How can you say this thread is OTT, and then come out with that comment?

 

 

Because the OP asked if he had got anything right; of course he has, just not a lot. Many of the original points he made in the explanation have some validity; we dont have a a stable team or goalkeeper, and our substitutions often appear clueless in nature and timing.

[mitch01]

Because the OP asked if he had got anything right; of course he has, just not a lot. Many of the original points he made in the explanation have some validity; we dont have a a stable team or goalkeeper, and our substitutions often appear clueless in nature and timing.

 

We don't have a stable goalkeeper, none of the three have adequately stepped up to the plate. But we do have a stable team, or as stable as you could possibly expect in the PL.

[Dibden Purlieu Saint]

Crikey, I thought I was bad. Of course he has got things right, however in the Premier League unlike the Champ and League 1 any mistakes made (and there have been a few) are exacerbated and thus noticed more.

[teacher]

More Adkins bashing! I think the guy deserves his chance, some people on here have very short memories. We were 2nd bottom in LEAGUE 1 when Nigel came to town! Now we are in the Premier League after back to back promotions. People have spoken about a lack of passion, what a load of ****. Unfortunately we are now playing in the best league in the world with some of the best players, I think our boys are not doing too bad. This wasn't going to be easy! Strengthen in January and we are going to be ok.

[kpturner]

Hilarious OP......complete with my pet hate mythical footballing attribute called "passion"

[Dr Who?]

Yes he has, plenty!

[Chez]

A bit OTT, this thread.

 

But, considering our mini-revival came to such an utter grinding halt in such mediocre manner against Sunderland following a break period, I do think we are floundering and he doesnt have the wherewithall to turn it around.

 

hardly OTT, it needs a post like "our play off hopes are hanging by a thread" before it could be described as that.

 

The smell of fish on this thread is unbearable.

[Wes Tender]

Signed poor players, consistenly plays players out of position,team selection bewildering, times of substitutions bewildering, still experiminting after 18 games, has never installed any passion into the team why is he still employed at the club .In Nigel we do not trust

How did your team fare against Crawley yesterday? Did you help to fill the Park? Which is your favourite ground in the third division?

[Mowgli]

There are strong rumours that ive heard from a couple of different sources that Adkins had a deal agreed for Robert Huth in the summer and Cortese refused to rubber stamp it. I'm not claiming this to be FACT just passing on what ive been told and no, I'm no revealing my sources and I don't give a sh*t if you beleive it or not.

 

Very much doubt it as he signed a new contract at one in june

[the stain]

As I said I'm not saying it as FACT but I was told a similar version of events From two different people who dont know each other, one has connections at SFC the other doesn't. I'm not 100% sure of all the details but in essence Adkins did all the leg work on the deal with the permission of the committee and had it agreed with Player and club, passed it to Cortese who dithered and then refused to agree it for whatever reason. Just what I was told.

 

So are you saying that you think this is true or that you've been told it and have no idea if its true or will you later claim that you made it up for a laugh, like you did before? Nothing you say has any credibility because you're a well known liar and troll. You got the Guly thing completely wrong and then spent ages trying to convince everyone that you just made it up, as if that was any better than just spouting ******** endlessly as if it were the truth.

[Saint Fan CaM]

Of course Adkins has got most things right. One thing he has little influence over right now is the standard of players at his disposal that have the ability to carry out the style and tactics he wants in the Prem.

[Barry Sanchez]

wooooooh ooooh wooooooh oooh woooooh oooh. Sound the sirens, run for the shelters..

 

Ha ha !

[Barry Sanchez]

I'd imagine his spelling and grammar are better than yours though.

 

 

As soon as someone makes a point of writing something thats a real discussion point along comes the cardigan wearing grammar police inspectors that want to be the spelling equivilent of Carol Vorderman, these people are the real driving force of this forum........................

[dronskisaint]

As soon as someone makes a point of writing something thats a real discussion point along comes the cardigan wearing grammar police inspectors that want to be the spelling equivilent of Carol Vorderman, these people are the real driving force of this forum........................

 

And their fellow skate defenders..................

[Barry Sanchez]

Why would a skate pay a fiver and come on here? I just think some of our fans are petty 50years Nigels in cardigans whos excitement comes on an internet forum correcting others spelling mistakes and thereby in some small way making themselves feel valuable, the last time these people felt a thrill was when they had a grab of Sheila from acounts at the Christmas party in 1985...................................

[whizzpop]

A bit OTT, this thread.

 

But, considering our mini-revival came to such an utter grinding halt in such mediocre manner against Sunderland following a break period, I do think we are floundering and he doesnt have the wherewithall to turn it around.

 

That'll be the same Sunderland team that beat Man City on Boxing day.

[Barry Sanchez]

That'll be the same Sunderland team that beat Man City on Boxing day.

 

Its not the result sometimes its the performance.

[Wes Tender]

Why would a skate pay a fiver and come on here?

 

Is a fiver a lot of money to you Barry? 10p a week to have a laugh at your rivals on their main forum doesn't seem to be bad value to me, especially when there are people offering free grammar coaching to boot.

[austsaint]

Why would a skate pay a fiver and come on here? I just think some of our fans are petty 50years Nigels in cardigans whos excitement comes on an internet forum correcting others spelling mistakes and thereby in some small way making themselves feel valuable, the last time these people felt a thrill was when they had a grab of Sheila from acounts at the Christmas party in 1985...................................

 

Just in case I'm one of those 50yo Nigels' in a cardigan, Barry.....let me say it's not the odd spelling mistake which leaves you open at times for a bit of a dig; more so the type of post you put up for view. The "moral compass" thread comes to mind as slightly all over the place in its content; not funny; hard to follow and more than a little pretentious. Hope this helps!

 

By the way, on topic, the 40 something Nigel without the cardigan is doing a fair job in a tight and ruthless competition. Yes, the GK situation is wretched and we have been lucky not to be more exposed at CB, but if he keeps his job and keeps us up then I'd rate it up there with the achievements of the previous two seasons. That would leave 2013/14 to try and consolidate like a Stoke or a West Brom.

[Barry Sanchez]

Just in case I'm one of those 50yo Nigels' in a cardigan, Barry.....let me say it's not the odd spelling mistake which leaves you open at times for a bit of a dig; more so the type of post you put up for view. The "moral compass" thread comes to mind as slightly all over the place in its content; not funny; hard to follow and more than a little pretentious. Hope this helps!

 

By the way, on topic, the 40 something Nigel without the cardigan is doing a fair job in a tight and ruthless competition. Yes, the GK situation is wretched and we have been lucky not to be more exposed at CB, but if he keeps his job and keeps us up then I'd rate it up there with the achievements of the previous two seasons. That would leave 2013/14 to try and consolidate like a Stoke or a West Brom.

 

I am not arsed about a dig but spelling mistakes! **** me, how ****e is that as a retort?

[sadoldgit]

Every manager makes mistakes every week. Ferguson has got a dreadful defence but gets away with it because his team score lots of goals. It can't be easy having to deal with transfers via a commitee and I wonder how many players that came in over the summer were on Adkins shopping list? Given time I think he will do ok at this level and if we do go down I cant think of anyone better to bring us up again.

[lydlinch saints]

How did your team fare against Crawley yesterday? Did you help to fill the Park? Which is your favourite ground in the third division?

Iwould like to refute these claims that I am a SKATE I am an SFC season ticket holder and following the SAINTS for FORTY TWO years and my Journey to watch home games is 104 miles round trip.Being a 57 year old brickie my computer skills are limited so I would not expect the abuse I have recieved following my post yesterday.Football is about opinions can I not have mine.

[saintroyt]

here we go again people who have no clue what happens in the club seem to know who is doing the team selection who we buy so are they on the board!

[eurosaint]

Iwould like to refute these claims that I am a SKATE I am an SFC season ticket holder and following the SAINTS for FORTY TWO years and my Journey to watch home games is 104 miles round trip.Being a 57 year old brickie my computer skills are limited so I would not expect the abuse I have recieved following my post yesterday.Football is about opinions can I not have mine.

 

'i' comes before 'e' except after 'c' !

Please pay careful attention in future

[Wes Tender]

Iwould like to refute these claims that I am a SKATE I am an SFC season ticket holder and following the SAINTS for FORTY TWO years and my Journey to watch home games is 104 miles round trip.Being a 57 year old brickie my computer skills are limited so I would not expect the abuse I have recieved following my post yesterday.Football is about opinions can I not have mine.

 

Of course you are a long time Saints fan, having watched them since you were knee-high to a grasshopper, used to go with your Dad as a regular in the chocolate boxes, followed them in Europe, was there when Benali and Lundekvan scored and other major milestones.

 

Pardon me for my scepticism when you arrive on this board with a handful of previous posts, the majority of which are critical of the manager or the club and then you expect us to believe that you are not a Skate on a wind-up.

 

Yes, you are entitled to your opinion; we even allow skates on here too express their opinions. The abuse wasn't because of your lack of computer skills; it was because of what you said as a newcomer, starting a thread critical of the manager. Personally, I'm a fan of the previous system whereby you had to pay to become a full member before you could start a thread.

[Barry Sanchez]

I am amazed a Westender has £5 without it being a fake or the back off a caravan...........

Edited 28 December, 2012 by Barry Sanchez

[Barry Sanchez]

More Adkins bashing! I think the guy deserves his chance, some people on here have very short memories. We were 2nd bottom in LEAGUE 1 when Nigel came to town! Now we are in the Premier League after back to back promotions. People have spoken about a lack of passion, what a load of ****. Unfortunately we are now playing in the best league in the world with some of the best players, I think our boys are not doing too bad. This wasn't going to be easy! Strengthen in January and we are going to be ok.

We also had a very good team when he took over, far too good to be in that division, the championship last year was well in some part skill and in other parts luck, we were running out of steam towards the end.

[modern matron]

Signed poor players, consistenly plays players out of position,team selection bewildering, times of substitutions bewildering, still experiminting after 18 games, has never installed any passion into the team why is he still employed at the club .In Nigel we do not trust

 

Sorry nothing personal but in football terms frankly you are a dickhead, your post is completely mad and pathetic!

[modern matron]

We also had a very good team when he took over, far too good to be in that division, the championship last year was well in some part skill and in other parts luck, we were running out of steam towards the end.

 

Barry please give us all a break for ****s sake, NA got us successive automatic promotions - he is a legend!!!

[Saint-Fred]

Why don't people understand that it's not an easy trick to bring a team up from the championship and keep them up? You have to recruit to get up, and then somehow magic a load of that squad away to get better quality in to stay up. This needs doing without destroying the spirit of the squad. You have a credibility problem bringing in real quality, not to mention the relative financial constraint of coming off the back of years of lower league income, (yes I know we spent £30m). The new squad needs welding together very quickly. As a young manager you have to get used to a higher level yourself, competing against other managers that have effectively been hand picked from across the globe. If we can stay up it will be the exception, not the rule. It's a real shame that AL has got injured because I think up to that point we were starting to really come good.

 

This +1

 

What I don't get on here is how some people want instant success and anything less than a win is a major crises...However it's 11 against 11 and the other team and manager are trying just as hard to get that magic formula as Nigel is.

Doesn't matter if you are Man Utd, Barcelona or Halifax the opposition never just turn up to let you roll over them?

 

Suppose that's the little bubble people get in and they blame everything on their own manager when sometimes it's just the other manager got it right/sussed your tactics/got lucky etc...Ask Sir Alex whether winning the title last season makes Mancini the better manager of the two?

If Nigel (or anyone) could get our lot to win every game then he would be our managers for about two minutes then he'd be in charge of Man Utd, who would sack SAF for anyone who would guarentee a win every game!

[lloydie]

Why don't people understand that it's not an easy trick to bring a team up from the championship and keep them up? You have to recruit to get up, and then somehow magic a load of that squad away to get better quality in to stay up. This needs doing without destroying the spirit of the squad. You have a credibility problem bringing in real quality, not to mention the relative financial constraint of coming off the back of years of lower league income, (yes I know we spent £30m). The new squad needs welding together very quickly. As a young manager you have to get used to a higher level yourself, competing against other managers that have effectively been hand picked from across the globe. If we can stay up it will be the exception, not the rule. It's a real shame that AL has got injured because I think up to that point we were starting to really come good.

 

This.

[trousers]

Top marks for number of bites

[Wes Tender]

I am amazed a Westender has £5 without it being a fake or the back off a caravan...........

 

Does the dole know you're on here, Scouser?

[Dig Dig]

We also had a very good team when he took over, far too good to be in that division, the championship last year was well in some part skill and in other parts luck, we were running out of steam towards the end.

 

Such a superior squad who had already lost too many games and had found themselves languishing in 22nd place. Yes we had a very good side but one which was beaten often under Pardew and of course Wilkins. People will still write off Adkins achievement though, anyone could have done it apparently.

[Turkish]

Such a superior squad who had already lost too many games and had found themselves languishing in 22nd place. Yes we had a very good side but one which was beaten often under Pardew and of course Wilkins. People will still write off Adkins achievement though, anyone could have done it apparently.

 

Pipe down with your pro Cortese propaganda

[Dig Dig]

Pipe down with your pro Cortese propaganda

 

Pro Adkins propaganda!

[Barry Sanchez]

Does the dole know you're on here, Scouser?

 

Such tired remarks from someone who thinks a good day out is in Queen Victoria Country Park looking across to Fawley.......................

[Barry Sanchez]

Such a superior squad who had already lost too many games and had found themselves languishing in 22nd place. Yes we had a very good side but one which was beaten often under Pardew and of course Wilkins. People will still write off Adkins achievement though, anyone could have done it apparently.

Even Branfoot would of got us out of League 1 with that team, this back to back promotions is a smokescreen for now lacklustre performances and a team that looks inconsistent and uninspired at times.

[Barry Sanchez]

This +1

 

What I don't get on here is how some people want instant success and anything less than a win is a major crises...However it's 11 against 11 and the other team and manager are trying just as hard to get that magic formula as Nigel is.

Doesn't matter if you are Man Utd, Barcelona or Halifax the opposition never just turn up to let you roll over them?

 

Suppose that's the little bubble people get in and they blame everything on their own manager when sometimes it's just the other manager got it right/sussed your tactics/got lucky etc...Ask Sir Alex whether winning the title last season makes Mancini the better manager of the two?

If Nigel (or anyone) could get our lot to win every game then he would be our managers for about two minutes then he'd be in charge of Man Utd, who would sack SAF for anyone who would guarentee a win every game!

 

Stoke, West Ham, West Brom and Wigan seem to be making a good crack of it.......................

[PhilippineSaint]

Stoke, West Ham, West Brom and Wigan seem to be making a good crack of it.......................

 

Wigan are below us so how does that come into this equation then?

[Barry Sanchez]

Wigan are below us so how does that come into this equation then?

 

Because the first year they came up they were expected to go straight back down and thye stayed up, this is our first season and we look like we are going down, our next 7/8 games are key and how many points do you see us getting honestly?

We have sleepwalked ourselves into this believing we always have a another game, we do but in the Championship I fear.

 

Stoke - 0 points

Arsenal - 0 points

Villa - 1 point

Everton - 1 point

United - 0 points

Wigan - 1 point

City - 0 points

Newcastle - 0 points

 

Is this being unrealistic/pessimistic or just having an honest opinion.

[PhilippineSaint]

Because the first year they came up they were expected to go straight back down and thye stayed up, this is our first season and we look like we are going down, our next 7/8 games are key and how many points do you see us getting honestly?

We have sleepwalked ourselves into this believing we always have a another game, we do but in the Championship I fear.

 

Stoke - 0 points

Arsenal - 0 points

Villa - 1 point

Everton - 1 point

United - 0 points

Wigan - 1 point

City - 0 points

Newcastle - 0 points

 

Is this being unrealistic/pessimistic or just having an honest opinion.

 

 

See above in bold

 

 

Look on the brighter side of life we may get about 12 points from those games then what will you say were not good enough to stay up because we haven't bought 11 more premier savy players in January. then when we do stay up moan because we never got into Europe the first year we are back in the top division.

 

As the old man used to say quit your moaning

Edited 29 December, 2012 by PhilippineSaint
I wanted too

[Barry Sanchez]

You see I admire your optimism/blind faith but we differ, we differ because we are human, I see things as I see them and you the same, Niges sunshine may work for some but it does not for me, I think its a load of ********, results speak for themselves and its as simple as that.

[PhilippineSaint]

Fair enough lets come back to this after the next run of 8 games and see who was closest to the points total your 3 or my 12

[PhilippineSaint]

You see I admire your optimism/blind faith but we differ, we differ because we are human, I see things as I see them and you the same, Niges sunshine may work for some but it does not for me, I think its a load of ********, results speak for themselves and its as simple as that.

 

should have used bollocki the new plural of Bollock

[Barry Sanchez]

Fair enough lets come back to this after the next run of 8 games and see who was closest to the points total your 3 or my 12

Cool no worries and I would rather be apologizing believe me.

[Tamesaint]

Because the first year they came up they were expected to go straight back down and thye stayed up, this is our first season and we look like we are going down, our next 7/8 games are key and how many points do you see us getting honestly?

We have sleepwalked ourselves into this believing we always have a another game, we do but in the Championship I fear.

 

Stoke - 0 points

Arsenal - 0 points

Villa - 1 point

Everton - 1 point

United - 0 points

Wigan - 1 point

City - 0 points

Newcastle - 0 points

 

Is this being unrealistic/pessimistic or just having an honest opinion.

 

A point at home to Everton??? I can't see that myself.

 

How will we get a point at Wigan? If they win at SMS they are bound to beat us at their place.

 

We will hit Villa just when they recover from their current bad patch. No points there either.

 

In fact I cannot see us getting any more points ever again. Shall we just withdraw from the League like some other poster recommended a few weeks ago?