Dr Who? Posted 27 December, 2012 Share Posted 27 December, 2012 Don't fancy our chances. Maybe a 0-0? They are such. Strong team who work had for each other. Their work rate when they do not have the ball is second to none. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOSaint Posted 27 December, 2012 Share Posted 27 December, 2012 Given how our back four have improved greatly and Stoke are not the best going forward (only Villa & QPR have scored fewer) I think there is something there for us if whoever plays in goal can maintain his sanity for a full 90 minutes (unlikely). 1-0 loss and another hint to NA that we need a better goalkeeper ASAP in January. Since the rest of the team began sorting themselves out (after the WBA game), goalkeeping clangers have cost us 6 points and I see another costing us at least one point on Saturday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 27 December, 2012 Share Posted 27 December, 2012 we'll win. Ramirez will get it right and the whole world will see we've signed a star...hopefully. no chance at stoke....they are the best defence in the country...they keep far better players quiet than ramirez...who is hardly setting the league on fire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 27 December, 2012 Share Posted 27 December, 2012 Lambert is the first name on the team sheet in this game IMO. His defensive ability is essential at set peices. I agree with you here...but I thought that when we went to west ham and he was dropped.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graffito Posted 27 December, 2012 Share Posted 27 December, 2012 Shawcross and Cameron banned. Upson and Shotton likely to replace them. Weakens their defence a little. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint-Armstrong Posted 28 December, 2012 Share Posted 28 December, 2012 Shawcross and Cameron banned. Upson and Shotton likely to replace them. Weakens their defence a little. Upson and Huth. Shotton at RB and Wilkinson at LB their fans seem to think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 28 December, 2012 Share Posted 28 December, 2012 They will hoof it, Kenwyne will score - no points for us out of this one.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the stain Posted 28 December, 2012 Share Posted 28 December, 2012 I'd be very surprised if this is anything but a defeat. I'll go for 2-0 to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlakeySFC Posted 28 December, 2012 Share Posted 28 December, 2012 Really can't see us getting anything out of this, and Kenwyne is bound to come back and haunt us. Can't see anything but a 2-0 to Stoke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfc4prem Posted 28 December, 2012 Share Posted 28 December, 2012 3-0 to Stoke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Restark19 Posted 28 December, 2012 Share Posted 28 December, 2012 2-1 saints, hooiveld to start and score an og in the 8th minute then go on to score 2 for us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted 28 December, 2012 Share Posted 28 December, 2012 Leave the defence inc. Davis alone - last thing we need is inconsistency there. Mid 3 should be Davis Cork and Morgan. Front three should be Jrod with Ramirez and Puncheon. Lambert on at 75m to retain draw/win or attempt to keep GD respectable. We'll almost certainly lose this - Stoke are the type of team that will not give us enough time on the ball and we're so pedestrian in buildup play I strongly believe we'll not score. Home win - 3:0. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 28 December, 2012 Share Posted 28 December, 2012 Leave the defence inc. Davis alone - last thing we need is inconsistency there. Mid 3 should be Davis Cork and Morgan. Front three should be Jrod with Ramirez and Puncheon. Lambert on at 75m to retain draw/win or attempt to keep GD respectable. We'll almost certainly lose this - Stoke are the type of team that will not give us enough time on the ball and we're so pedestrian in buildup play I strongly believe we'll not score. Home win - 3:0. For me there is no need to play 3 CMs - they arent strong at keeping the ball and their CMs dont run the game. Their threat is in the penalty area and they like to squash teama into their own half and keep them there with balls going up to Jones/Crouch. The best approach is to be more attacking and give them something to think about, especially with two defenders missing. Ramirez just off Lambert (or JR) and then Puncheon right plus AN Other on the left. Need wide midfielders to help stop crosses going into the box so the central 3 in midfield wouldnt work and as NA has realised Gaston isnt good at tracking so needs to play central where he can do most damage. Probably Guly for the left slot as we have nobody else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
for_heaven's_Saint Posted 28 December, 2012 Share Posted 28 December, 2012 Their defence is pretty slow so I'm sure that could be exploited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 28 December, 2012 Share Posted 28 December, 2012 Hope no one is bothering to go as we have no chance..........apparently... Such support for the team... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
positivepete Posted 28 December, 2012 Share Posted 28 December, 2012 For me there is no need to play 3 CMs - they arent strong at keeping the ball and their CMs dont run the game. Their threat is in the penalty area and they like to squash teama into their own half and keep them there with balls going up to Jones/Crouch. The best approach is to be more attacking and give them something to think about, especially with two defenders missing. Ramirez just off Lambert (or JR) and then Puncheon right plus AN Other on the left. Need wide midfielders to help stop crosses going into the box so the central 3 in midfield wouldnt work and as NA has realised Gaston isnt good at tracking so needs to play central where he can do most damage. Probably Guly for the left slot as we have nobody else. A key part of the role of the two defensive midfielders is to support the full backs, having three "should" help with that. As you say the threat is out wide from Stoke. So 4 3 3 with seven defending and three mobile attackers who will also close down their defenders when they have the ball may work. No point in lumping it upfield and letting them send it back with interest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 28 December, 2012 Share Posted 28 December, 2012 A key part of the role of the two defensive midfielders is to support the full backs, having three "should" help with that. As you say the threat is out wide from Stoke. So 4 3 3 with seven defending and three mobile attackers who will also close down their defenders when they have the ball may work. No point in lumping it upfield and letting them send it back with interest. No need to lump up field in the 4-4-1-1 but more protection for the full backs. 4-3-3 end up being 4-5-1 and thats when the ball doesnt stick up top as proven vs Fulham for the first half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rasiak-9- Posted 28 December, 2012 Share Posted 28 December, 2012 I'd be gobsmacked if we win this one, but don't forget how often Stoke's dropped points at home have come against seemingly weaker teams. QPR took 6 points off them last season, Wigan and Bolton took 4. They do take their foot off the gas against lower teams sometimes. The key to this game is how quickly we can counter-attack. Stoke are strong but slow, if we take half an hour to get the ball forward and allow them to get men behind the ball we'll end up with the same problem that we had against Fulham and Sunderland, which amounted in all of 0 goals from open play in 180 minutes of football. No point trying to go toe-to-toe with them in a brawl, we'll need to have an effective counterpunching strategy to hit them quickly when their guard is down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 28 December, 2012 Share Posted 28 December, 2012 They will hoof it, Kenwyne will score - no points for us out of this one.... Stoke actually play a lot of good football. They have developed quite a lot from the old hoofball days, but they are still a threat from corners and throws (even without Delap). But people should understand that there is a lot more to their game than the general concensus would have us believe based on the past 2 or 3 seasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 28 December, 2012 Share Posted 28 December, 2012 (edited) 3-1 to the mighty Saints. Team Depending on fitness? Davis/Boruc Clyne Fonte Yoshida Shaw Davis Morgan Cork Puncheon Ramirez Lambert Subs Davis/Boruc, Jos, Richardson, JWP, Jay Rod, Mayuka,Lee Forgot....Guly? SUB or carry the kit bag Edited 28 December, 2012 by ottery st mary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasoneuelllfanclub Posted 28 December, 2012 Author Share Posted 28 December, 2012 Stoke actually play a lot of good football. They have developed quite a lot from the old hoofball days, but they are still a threat from corners and throws (even without Delap). But people should understand that there is a lot more to their game than the general concensus would have us believe based on the past 2 or 3 seasons. Sorry but Stoke are all about hoofball imo. They just hit hopeful boys up to Jones or Crouch and rely on knockdowns and failing that they have set pieces. They will probably beat us but it will be down to physical factors more than anything and nothing to do with skill and vision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 28 December, 2012 Share Posted 28 December, 2012 I think we are due a thrashing. 5-0 to The Stoke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nexstar Posted 28 December, 2012 Share Posted 28 December, 2012 Adkins doesn't seem to be a favourite with the Stoke City faithful: http://oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=Potters&action=display&thread=205067 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGTL Posted 28 December, 2012 Share Posted 28 December, 2012 I see the forum has us down as playing Barcelona again. I might not even bother going now, we've lost already... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nexstar Posted 28 December, 2012 Share Posted 28 December, 2012 "This really should be the 4-0 or 5-0 thrashing we have all been eagerly awaiting. I don't think there will be an easier game this season than this, at home to the 17th placed team who have only won once away from home all season and only managed one draw as well, while we are on fire, with a 9 game unbeaten streak. We finally scored 3 on Wednesday and I really reckon this should be the match we target to get 4 plus. Wouldn't be surprised with 6 even." Well, let's hope we can upset this a bit... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 28 December, 2012 Share Posted 28 December, 2012 "This really should be the 4-0 or 5-0 thrashing we have all been eagerly awaiting. I don't think there will be an easier game this season than this, at home to the 17th placed team who have only won once away from home all season and only managed one draw as well, while we are on fire, with a 9 game unbeaten streak. We finally scored 3 on Wednesday and I really reckon this should be the match we target to get 4 plus. Wouldn't be surprised with 6 even." Well, let's hope we can upset this a bit... Christ, they're not that good. The fickle short-term mind of a football fan never ceases to amaze me. Unbeaten in 8 or 9 and you're barcelona, you'll beat anyone who steps in front of you. But...hang on...Lose 2 or 3 on the bounce and the manager has to go, the players aren't good enough, and we need a whole sale change in January...!! (That's what stoke were saying earlier in the season for christ sake!) For a club like Stoke, they can easily endure a 9 game non-winning spell as easy as they've gone on their winning run. They're a solid side and it will be difficult for us, but they're not that good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGTL Posted 28 December, 2012 Share Posted 28 December, 2012 If there is one game I'd love us to win more then any this season, it's away at Stoke. Pulis is a complete and utter cock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 28 December, 2012 Share Posted 28 December, 2012 Must start a whole lot better than we have recently. If they score early they will win easily given their form and confidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Langleysaint Posted 28 December, 2012 Share Posted 28 December, 2012 Adkins doesn't seem to be a favourite with the Stoke City faithful: http://oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=Potters&action=display&thread=205067 What a bunch of C**KS ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 28 December, 2012 Share Posted 28 December, 2012 If there is one game I'd love us to win more then any this season, it's away at Stoke. Pulis is a complete and utter cock. Would love it! I remember when we won up their in GB's first few months, Rasiak got both IIRC. Not sure why, but I never forget that win. Felt good! It was only 7 years ago, and so much has changed. They were a bog average championship side back then, with Boskamp...(i think?) as their manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 28 December, 2012 Share Posted 28 December, 2012 Funny thing of those quotes is that there's nothing disrespectful. It was pointed out that our disciplinary record is good and NA said it will help because Stoke score a lot of their goals from set plays (a fact) and by conceding less free kicks it gives us a better chance (again, a fact). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 28 December, 2012 Share Posted 28 December, 2012 (edited) What a bunch of C**KS ! Oh I don't know, the pencil sharpener and tiles stuff was amusing. Then again I sort of could agree with them. I think NA is bland and does sometimes spout BS about our style of football. Don't listen to his build up interviews any more, heard one, heard them all. Just turn the sound down and watch the training videos. Edited 28 December, 2012 by Window Cleaner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 28 December, 2012 Share Posted 28 December, 2012 Stoke actually play a lot of good football. They have developed quite a lot from the old hoofball days, but they are still a threat from corners and throws (even without Delap). But people should understand that there is a lot more to their game than the general concensus would have us believe based on the past 2 or 3 seasons. Granted, you do see them play a bit nowadays - but they can still get ugly when they need to. We like to play lots of nice tippy tappy stuff, and if we start to get the upper hand by doing so, they will kick ten bales of shyte out of us. We are far too lightweight to compete when it gets rough. If we get away with a 1 nil loss, no injuries, I'd be relatively happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 28 December, 2012 Share Posted 28 December, 2012 Adkins doesn't seem to be a favourite with the Stoke City faithful: http://oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=Potters&action=display&thread=205067 Ha, how much misplaced anger and bitterness can they fit on that thread! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graffito Posted 28 December, 2012 Share Posted 28 December, 2012 Adkins doesn't seem to be a favourite with the Stoke City faithful: http://oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=Potters&action=display&thread=205067 Big chips on their shoulders. What a bunch of pussies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicestersaint Posted 28 December, 2012 Share Posted 28 December, 2012 2 - 1 to Saints! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Saints Posted 28 December, 2012 Share Posted 28 December, 2012 Would love it if we turned them over. Their fans are typical northern ****s and Robert Huth is an absolute bell end. N'Zonzi is their key man. COYR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Jonny Posted 28 December, 2012 Share Posted 28 December, 2012 Big chips on their shoulders. What a bunch of pussies. Yep. Hope we put a great performance in and shut the ignorant cocks up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 28 December, 2012 Share Posted 28 December, 2012 Adkins doesn't seem to be a favourite with the Stoke City faithful: http://oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=Potters&action=display&thread=205067 Not far from the truth with some of those comments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 28 December, 2012 Share Posted 28 December, 2012 Not far from the truth with some of those comments. Shock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadDogMatt Posted 28 December, 2012 Share Posted 28 December, 2012 Anyone know if tickets are available on the day for us? Have emailed Stoke but not had a reply. cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nexstar Posted 28 December, 2012 Share Posted 28 December, 2012 Anyone know if tickets are available on the day for us? Have emailed Stoke but not had a reply. cheers Yeah they are Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eelpie Posted 28 December, 2012 Share Posted 28 December, 2012 3-1 to the mighty Saints. Team Depending on fitness? Davis/Boruc Clyne Fonte Yoshida Shaw Davis Morgan Cork Puncheon Ramirez Lambert Subs Davis/Boruc, Jos, Richardson, JWP, Jay Rod, Mayuka,Lee Forgot....Guly? SUB or carry the kit bag Why has no-one thought of that before? Two keepers in goal should do the trick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 28 December, 2012 Share Posted 28 December, 2012 Why has no-one thought of that before? Two keepers in goal should do the trick. don't count on it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eelpie Posted 28 December, 2012 Share Posted 28 December, 2012 Rodriguez in for Lambert. Guly wide left. Ramirez in the hole behind the striker. Ramirez in the hole behind Lambert yes, but JayRod wide left. He has the speed to worry and get behind defences and Ramirez needs to work with Lambert. (He is wasted on the wing). Rickie upfront on his own is also a waste of time if he is not getting service. Guly on the bench. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eelpie Posted 28 December, 2012 Share Posted 28 December, 2012 don't count on it True. Eleven players in goal would be better.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazza82 Posted 28 December, 2012 Share Posted 28 December, 2012 SUBS Boruc, Richardson, Hooiveld, Guly, Rodriguez, Mayuka, Davis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gambol2K9 Posted 28 December, 2012 Share Posted 28 December, 2012 I predict that Stoke will teach us a lesson in working hard tomorrow. Can't see us getting anything from this unfortunately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corky morris Posted 28 December, 2012 Share Posted 28 December, 2012 I know this is very silly, but for some reason I have a feeling we will get a point tomorrow..........................I know it makes little sense, but just something inside says it will be 1-1 & Ramirez will score. Probably be 4-1 to Stoke now I have said that!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 28 December, 2012 Share Posted 28 December, 2012 SUBS Boruc, Richardson, Hooiveld, Guly, Rodriguez, Mayuka, Davis Dr Ridder? Are you ****ing serious? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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