jasoneuelllfanclub Posted 27 December, 2012 Posted 27 December, 2012 Not going to be pretty to watch this one as Stoke are a horrible team. We need to stand firm and put our foot in. Shawcross being suspended is a bonus and their fullbacks could be susceptible to pace and trickery. If we gonna play Ramirez then needs to be in the hole otherwise he is wasted however without lallana we have to change our system to accommodate him. 4-3-1-2 Davis Clyne Fonte Yoshida Shaw Morgan Cork Davis Ramirez Lambert Rodriquez
70's Mike Posted 27 December, 2012 Posted 27 December, 2012 Stoke like to bully you, so game will be like alot of those last season away from SMS.Need to win second ball because they will win lots of first ball. Team above looks ok but Clyne could be suspect against crosses
dubai_phil Posted 27 December, 2012 Posted 27 December, 2012 Really think this is a Guly game. While not our most gifted he has a great engine, has seemed one level more fired up than many other players in his cameo roles last couple of weeks and has the advantage of being helpful in the air. Perhaps starting him wide right with Puncheon left may balance the side again and let Ramirez play in the hole. Davies on the bench. Not sure about KD for this one either. Downside at the moment is that I'm struggling to find anyone else to come down the pub to watch. REALLY not the game you want to be sitting alone for as I think we will get bullied, but with Shawcross being out that is a huge boost. Most of our Dubai massive are away for Xmas & NYE (we were down to 4 yesterday boo).
S-Clarke Posted 27 December, 2012 Posted 27 December, 2012 Need to hope they're off their game, that's the only chance we have. Let's hope the Liverpool game took a fair bit out of them.
for_heaven's_Saint Posted 27 December, 2012 Posted 27 December, 2012 Which one of our keepers is least bad at coming for crosses?
the Camster Posted 27 December, 2012 Posted 27 December, 2012 what kit will we be wearing for this one??
Ewell Posted 27 December, 2012 Posted 27 December, 2012 Ryan Shawcross is suspended and it cannot be understated how important he is to Stoke City. Also rumours their right back Cameron could be suspended as well. We are capable of getting at least a point here if we play and defend well. http://oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=Potters&action=display&thread=204920
Window Cleaner Posted 27 December, 2012 Posted 27 December, 2012 what kit will we be wearing for this one?? yellow Id guess
Saintru Posted 27 December, 2012 Posted 27 December, 2012 Really think this is a Guly game. While not our most gifted he has a great engine, has seemed one level more fired up than many other players in his cameo roles last couple of weeks and has the advantage of being helpful in the air. Sorry have to disagree here. Guly goes missing far too often and is one player who will be bullied out of it. I think of Pompey last season, OOH I will just duck out of that header! Guly not for me.
Saint_Jonny Posted 27 December, 2012 Posted 27 December, 2012 Really think this is a Guly game. While not our most gifted he has a great engine, has seemed one level more fired up than many other players in his cameo roles last couple of weeks and has the advantage of being helpful in the air. Sorry have to disagree here. Guly goes missing far too often and is one player who will be bullied out of it. I think of Pompey last season, OOH I will just duck out of that header! Guly not for me. Lambert has been ducking out if headers for weeks, I doubt you'll be dropping him any time soon.
Sour Mash Posted 27 December, 2012 Posted 27 December, 2012 Rodriguez in for Lambert. Guly wide left. Ramirez in the hole behind the striker.
Turkish Posted 27 December, 2012 Posted 27 December, 2012 Rodriguez in for Lambert. Guly wide left. Ramirez in the hole behind the striker. Yep, i agree.
corky morris Posted 27 December, 2012 Posted 27 December, 2012 We are wearing Yellow. My youngest 2 lads are the mascots too! Middle lad is at the Stoke development centre so should be fun. They have a couple of weaknesses. Vulnerable to pace & width. It's a pity Lallana is injured. Getting a point would be a real bonus.
Nigel=God-Poyet=Sod Posted 27 December, 2012 Posted 27 December, 2012 Lambert has been ducking out if headers for weeks, I doubt you'll be dropping him any time soon. Utter nonsense. Lambert has had a couple of off games recently and not won all the headers but remember these are PL defenders and its meat and drink for them to win a ball in the air. Boruc Clyne Fonte Yoshida Shaw Schneiderlin Cork Puncheon Guly Ramírez Lambert
Turkish Posted 27 December, 2012 Posted 27 December, 2012 We are wearing Yellow. My youngest 2 lads are the mascots too! Middle lad is at the Stoke development centre so should be fun. They have a couple of weaknesses. Vulnerable to pace & width. It's a pity Lallana is injured. Getting a point would be a real bonus. Great! Two things we dont have!! Hope your lads enjoy their day though mate!
View From The Top Posted 27 December, 2012 Posted 27 December, 2012 We are wearing Yellow. My youngest 2 lads are the mascots too! Middle lad is at the Stoke development centre so should be fun. They have a couple of weaknesses. Vulnerable to pace & width. It's a pity Lallana is injured. Getting a point would be a real bonus. Missus will bring the the nippers blue away shorts over on Friday.
View From The Top Posted 27 December, 2012 Posted 27 December, 2012 Virtually a home game for me! 18 mins on the train.
Saint Charlie Posted 27 December, 2012 Posted 27 December, 2012 IMO in terms of formation just match their 4-4-2/4-4-1-1 with ours. Ramirez just off Lambert and then fill the left midfield role with either Guly or Rodriguez.
Roger Posted 27 December, 2012 Posted 27 December, 2012 Not going to be pretty to watch this one as Stoke are a horrible team. We need to stand firm and put our foot in. Shawcross being suspended is a bonus and their fullbacks could be susceptible to pace and trickery. If we gonna play Ramirez then needs to be in the hole otherwise he is wasted however without lallana we have to change our system to accommodate him. 4-3-1-2 Davis Clyne Fonte Yoshida Shaw Morgan Cork Davis Ramirez Lambert Rodriquez What? Puncheon was very good yesterday. Steven Davis for puncheon wtf?
Roger Posted 27 December, 2012 Posted 27 December, 2012 Rodriguez in for Lambert. Guly wide left. Ramirez in the hole behind the striker. U can't leave Lambeth out vs stoke ffs?
Turkish Posted 27 December, 2012 Posted 27 December, 2012 U can't leave Lambeth out vs stoke ffs? Of course you can.
Roger Posted 27 December, 2012 Posted 27 December, 2012 Biggest team in leave and really good at set pieces where lambert is one of our best defenders. J rod is too weak.
Sour Mash Posted 27 December, 2012 Posted 27 December, 2012 U can't leave Lambeth out vs stoke ffs? Just think Huth alone will mark him out of the game. Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't be "disappointed" to see Lambert playing, just would like to see how Rodriguez greater mobility would get on playing infront of Ramirez. Yes, Lambert is a great help defensively in the air, but that can't be the basis for choosing a striker.
skintsaint Posted 27 December, 2012 Posted 27 December, 2012 U can't leave Lambeth out vs stoke ffs? tbh I would, Lamberts the type of player their centrebacks would easily cope with.. need a bit more pace and movement for their meaty centrebacks.
Roger Posted 27 December, 2012 Posted 27 December, 2012 Well the fact he is pretty much our only goal threat is enough for me.
Turkish Posted 27 December, 2012 Posted 27 December, 2012 Well the fact he is pretty much our only goal threat is enough for me. He'll be easily dealt with by Huth on saturday. I know you cant bare to hear this said about your boy but that is how it is.
Nexstar Posted 27 December, 2012 Posted 27 December, 2012 Well the fact he is pretty much our only goal threat is enough for me. Besides the penalty yesterday he wasn't a threat.
Roger Posted 27 December, 2012 Posted 27 December, 2012 I'm just wondering who else is likely to score many goals?
Saint_clark Posted 27 December, 2012 Posted 27 December, 2012 Surprised we haven't had the old "Chaplow could add some extra bite to the midfield" yet.
Nexstar Posted 27 December, 2012 Posted 27 December, 2012 I'm just wondering who else is likely to score many goals? I was thinking maybe one of the other nine players in our squad that have scored in the league this season?
Window Cleaner Posted 27 December, 2012 Posted 27 December, 2012 I'm just wondering who else is likely to score many goals? I would go all bold and start young Hoskins, we won't do that though.
Sour Mash Posted 27 December, 2012 Posted 27 December, 2012 Well the fact he is pretty much our only goal threat is enough for me. But that's the problem, he's becoming less and less of a goal threat. Partly because we've changed the way we play a bit and partly opposition defences have got wise to the best way to play him, but Lambert is looking less and less likely to score from open play. What is disappointing is that neither Mayuka or Rodriguez particularly look like grasping their opportunity and forcing Lambert out of the side.
Roger Posted 27 December, 2012 Posted 27 December, 2012 I was thinking maybe one of the other nine players in our squad that have scored in the league this season? Many?
Roger Posted 27 December, 2012 Posted 27 December, 2012 But that's the problem, he's becoming less and less of a goal threat. Partly because we've changed the way we play a bit and partly opposition defences have got wise to the best way to play him, but Lambert is looking less and less likely to score from open play. What is disappointing is that neither Mayuka or Rodriguez particularly look like grasping their opportunity and forcing Lambert out of the side. Mayuka only had one chance after hardly playing so think he will be fine. His record with young boys suggests that.
Sour Mash Posted 27 December, 2012 Posted 27 December, 2012 Mayuka only had one chance after hardly playing so think he will be fine. His record with young boys suggests that. Yes, I agree that long-term he'll probably come good, would just like to see a bit more impact from him now.
Roger Posted 27 December, 2012 Posted 27 December, 2012 Tbf he hasn't been brought off the bench to make an impact very often. I thought when he was he did make an impact vs spurs.
JackFrost Posted 27 December, 2012 Posted 27 December, 2012 Mayuka practically changed the game himself when he came on vs spurs, although when ever he has started he's been poor. As for Lambert being marked out by Huth, it wasn't that long ago that Lambert was giving Vidic and Ferdinand a torrid time. RL does seem to be half a yard short at the moment but I'd still play him against Stoke. That isn't just because of my status. Honest.
Sour Mash Posted 27 December, 2012 Posted 27 December, 2012 Tbf he hasn't been brought off the bench to make an impact very often. I thought when he was he did make an impact vs spurs. YEah he's looked lively at times, just thought we'd have got a bit more out of him 4 months into the season.
Roger Posted 27 December, 2012 Posted 27 December, 2012 YEah he's looked lively at times, just thought we'd have got a bit more out of him 4 months into the season. Yes I think we a did.
jasoneuelllfanclub Posted 27 December, 2012 Author Posted 27 December, 2012 What? Puncheon was very good yesterday. Steven Davis for puncheon wtf? this is the problem we have when with out lallana. we need mobility upfront especially when playing away hence me putting Jrod in but we also need ramirez in his most effective position to provide the creative outlet. my take is that stoke dont have much possession partly because they play hoof ball but because there midfielders are not very good on the ball so it is important we get hold of the ball, frustrate them and cause them problems with pace and vision. so 3 midfielders across the middle will keep it solid and then we have ramirez and lambert as the creative outlets with JRod hopefully using his decent pace to get away from there juggernaut defenders.
Saint Charlie Posted 27 December, 2012 Posted 27 December, 2012 I reckon Chaplow could be good for this one to add some bite and energy to the midfield.
Saint Charlie Posted 27 December, 2012 Posted 27 December, 2012 this is the problem we have when with out lallana. we need mobility upfront especially when playing away hence me putting Jrod in but we also need ramirez in his most effective position to provide the creative outlet. my take is that stoke dont have much possession partly because they play hoof ball but because there midfielders are not very good on the ball so it is important we get hold of the ball, frustrate them and cause them problems with pace and vision. so 3 midfielders across the middle will keep it solid and then we have ramirez and lambert as the creative outlets with JRod hopefully using his decent pace to get away from there juggernaut defenders. Vs Stoke you need to cut the supply out wide. Need a midfield 4 IMO
Appy Posted 27 December, 2012 Posted 27 December, 2012 As good as Lambert is, against Hangeland and Senderos yesterday he was on a hiding to nothing. I think it will be exactly the same on Saturday, would like to see Rodriguez start. Please no Mayuka or Chaplow.
Turkish Posted 27 December, 2012 Posted 27 December, 2012 I reckon Chaplow could be good for this one to add some bite and energy to the midfield. This. Maybe it's time for Jonno Quicks pace to be utilised in behind Stokes back 4? Get him into the chanels and Chaplow using his energy to get into the box for the crosses.
Thedelldays Posted 27 December, 2012 Posted 27 December, 2012 We will be lucky to get anything They are a very hard side and have a very mean defence They will pepper crosses in and be very physical. Shawcross is a top CB Glad we got a point yesterday really
Sour Mash Posted 27 December, 2012 Posted 27 December, 2012 We will be lucky to get anything They are a very hard side and have a very mean defence They will pepper crosses in and be very physical. Shawcross is a top CB Glad we got a point yesterday really Shawcross is out suspended.
Appy Posted 27 December, 2012 Posted 27 December, 2012 We will be lucky to get anything They are a very hard side and have a very mean defence They will pepper crosses in and be very physical. Shawcross is a top CB Glad we got a point yesterday really Shawcross is out.
Appy Posted 27 December, 2012 Posted 27 December, 2012 This. Maybe it's time for Jonno Quicks pace to be utilised in behind Stokes back 4? Get him into the chanels and Chaplow using his energy to get into the box for the crosses. What about De Ridder?
jasoneuelllfanclub Posted 27 December, 2012 Author Posted 27 December, 2012 Vs Stoke you need to cut the supply out wide. Need a midfield 4 IMO a lot of there goals come from corners or just knock downs from lumps upfield by midfielders or defenders. even when we play 4-4-2 we still tuck in far to much and let the oppo get crosses in far too easily. it is going to be tough for sure but we have slightly greater chance with shawcross being suspended. no point going like v like lets bring some pace upfront and try to get behind them.
Appy Posted 27 December, 2012 Posted 27 December, 2012 Stoke actually play some good football too, as seen last night. They aren't just a hoof it team like people say they are, similar to West Ham.
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