St Chalet Posted 26 December, 2012 Posted 26 December, 2012 4 current keepers, a left-field suggestion or throw the dice again for another?
skintsaint Posted 26 December, 2012 Posted 26 December, 2012 I'd like Boruc but for some reason he is out of the equation....so a new one for me.
Saint_clark Posted 26 December, 2012 Posted 26 December, 2012 I'd like Boruc but for some reason he is out of the equation....so a new one for me. On the bench V Sunderland with Gazza fit again so he can't be that far out of it.
mitch01 Posted 26 December, 2012 Posted 26 December, 2012 Always said Boruc, although Nigel sees them most and I trust his decision. I doubt we will sign a new one.
St Chalet Posted 26 December, 2012 Author Posted 26 December, 2012 Personally I would go for a Boruc. He has the big game experience from SPL and Serie A. But for the bottle incident I suspect he would have been #1 and we'd have a few more points.
Restark19 Posted 26 December, 2012 Posted 26 December, 2012 Brad Friedel Just signed a new contract at Spurs. Kelvin for me
Zlavik Posted 26 December, 2012 Posted 26 December, 2012 Always said Boruc and I'm sticking with it. Hopefully he'll be in full shape for the next game and be between the posts.
jimbojones10 Posted 26 December, 2012 Posted 26 December, 2012 Boruc for me, although did anyone see some of the howlers he let in in the warm up today?
sidthesquid Posted 26 December, 2012 Posted 26 December, 2012 I'm afraid KD showed why he isn't a Prem keeper again. Schwarzer totally dominated his whole penalty area, Davis is yet again rooted to the line as balls go into the six-yard box and their goal was a gift, I'm afraid.
St Chalet Posted 26 December, 2012 Author Posted 26 December, 2012 Boruc for me, although did anyone see some of the howlers he let in in the warm up today? If you based a performance on the warm-up Adam Hammill would have been in the England side.
JustMike Posted 26 December, 2012 Posted 26 December, 2012 Davis, its going to take borat 6 months to shed those extra pounds
Turkish Posted 26 December, 2012 Posted 26 December, 2012 Davis, its going to take borat 6 months to shed those extra pounds :lol:
Dr Who? Posted 26 December, 2012 Posted 26 December, 2012 Davies all the way. Doing well at the back now.
Matthew Le God Posted 26 December, 2012 Posted 26 December, 2012 Davies all the way. Doing well at the back now. What about Kelvin Davis? The keeper we've had since 2006. I think Boruc should be given another go, if people keep harping on about experience at a high level then Boruc has more pedigree than any other keeper we've currently got.
PinkScarf Posted 26 December, 2012 Posted 26 December, 2012 Just signed a new contract at Spurs. Kelvin for me Kelvin is not good enough for the Premiership. He cost us the 3 points today. Gazza is also mistake prone and Boruc is no better.
Turkish Posted 26 December, 2012 Posted 26 December, 2012 What about Kelvin Davis? The keeper we've had since 2006. Does it give your life meaning by spending boxing day correcting people on a football forum?
Matthew Le God Posted 26 December, 2012 Posted 26 December, 2012 Does it give your life meaning by spending boxing day correcting people on a football forum? Does it give your life meaning spending Boxing Day criticising people that correct other people on a football forum?
Turkish Posted 26 December, 2012 Posted 26 December, 2012 Does it give your life meaning spending Boxing Day criticising people that correct other people on a football forum? Its a bit wierd, that's all. Of the two threads I've read your contributors too since I logged on one was a patronising correction of a spelling mistake on a player and the other was correcting people about our goal today, when they hadnt seen it properly. It must be great being you.
Badger Posted 26 December, 2012 Posted 26 December, 2012 Gazzaniga - just too early for him. Perhaps his injury was at a 'convenient' time for the club in order to make the change and restore Kelvin.I think PG may make the grade but we saw Gazzaniga sat with the squad players v Sunderland, and am sorry to say the body language just said "sulk", to me and my son.Perhaps not the attitude NA requires. Boluc has thrived on a reputation earnt elsewhere a few years ago. After his water bottle tantrum, I suspect his time here will be short. KD, is not a Prem standard keeper. Some people do not think we need another GK in January. I can't see us surviving without one.
Turkish Posted 26 December, 2012 Posted 26 December, 2012 Gazzaniga - just too early for him. Perhaps his injury was at a 'convenient' time for the club in order to make the change and restore Kelvin.I think PG may make the grade but we saw Gazzaniga sat with the squad players v Sunderland, and am sorry to say the body language just said "sulk", to me and my son.Perhaps not the attitude NA requires. Boluc has thrived on a reputation earnt elsewhere a few years ago. After his water bottle tantrum, I suspect his time here will be short. KD, is not a Prem standard keeper. Some people do not think we need another GK in January. I can't see us surviving without one. Should be a priority IMO.
SNSUN Posted 26 December, 2012 Posted 26 December, 2012 I don't know enough about Boruc to vote for him, his record at previous clubs is good but already he's out of favour here. Gazzaniga looks error prone and while he may have a good future, he's not ready at this level yet. I also don't see us signing a new keeper in January, which leaves Davis. (Although I hope we do target another keeper in January.)
DT Posted 27 December, 2012 Posted 27 December, 2012 Gazza in time, but experienced keeper in January. Jettison dead wood.
Window Cleaner Posted 27 December, 2012 Posted 27 December, 2012 Should be a priority IMO. if administratively possible before 5.30 pm next Tuesday. Cos if not we'll play Davis again and Arsenal will just slam in shots from 20 out all afternoon and we'll ship a shedload.
KelvinsRightGlove Posted 27 December, 2012 Posted 27 December, 2012 Boruc for me, although did anyone see some of the howlers he let in in the warm up today? I noticed this. Was a bit disturbing. I have no confidence in any of them to be honest. Was initially pleased with Borucs signing, but didn't have a great start, and is clearly out of favour for a reason. I do believe Gazza has potential, but probably isn't ready yet. Kelvin, well, I love the bloke, he's been a fantastic servant to the club. He's played a massive part in our ascent in recent years, but he's just not up to the prem. it's costing us too many points now.
Pilchards Posted 27 December, 2012 Posted 27 December, 2012 Just think if we had a half decent keeper then we could be sitting pretty in 8th place.
Turkish Posted 27 December, 2012 Posted 27 December, 2012 if administratively possible before 5.30 pm next Tuesday. Cos if not we'll play Davis again and Arsenal will just slam in shots from 20 out all afternoon and we'll ship a shedload. Stoke put the ball into the area a lot, Davis rarely leaves his line. We could ship a shedload on saturday as we dont have a keeper who can command the area.
Window Cleaner Posted 27 December, 2012 Posted 27 December, 2012 Just think if we had a half decent keeper then we could be sitting pretty in 8th place. As I have said since the first day of the season. We should be 6 points better off now, without better performances from anyone other than our goalkeepers.
Tom & Gerry Posted 27 December, 2012 Posted 27 December, 2012 Even Hart is making mistakes, we are not going to find an error free keeper with this ball. Kelvin has looked better since he's been back but hasn't really been tested and should have done better with the Fulham goal. If a really top keeper becomes available (unlikely) go for him and ditch Boruc otherwise it's whoever's in until they make too many mistakes
dubai_phil Posted 27 December, 2012 Posted 27 December, 2012 Press have been linking us with both Paul Robinson & Jack Butland again. Haven't seen either play this season but with Boruc only signed to Jan think we have an idea what is coming
Window Cleaner Posted 27 December, 2012 Posted 27 December, 2012 Press have been linking us with both Paul Robinson & Jack Butland again. Haven't seen either play this season but with Boruc only signed to Jan think we have an idea what is coming Boruc is probably on very little money (relatively) and is happy enough to train with our group and be in a better condition to get himself a good contract in January.
Restark19 Posted 27 December, 2012 Posted 27 December, 2012 (edited) Press have been linking us with both Paul Robinson & Jack Butland again. Haven't seen either play this season but with Boruc only signed to Jan think we have an idea what is coming I thought Boruc was signed up for the whole season? Edited 27 December, 2012 by Restark19
Window Cleaner Posted 27 December, 2012 Posted 27 December, 2012 I thought Boruc was signed up for the whole season? yes seems that way
dubai_phil Posted 27 December, 2012 Posted 27 December, 2012 yes seems that way Strange Google says end of season but I was sure (maybe FMDP found it in Polish Press) it was only until January. In which case.. bo[[ocks, we're screwed
Window Cleaner Posted 27 December, 2012 Posted 27 December, 2012 Strange Google says end of season but I was sure (maybe FMDP found it in Polish Press) it was only until January. In which case.. bo[[ocks, we're screwed transfermarkt says until June, they're rarely wrong. Whoscored and Transfermarkt, references for being correct virtually all of the time.
mickyp Posted 27 December, 2012 Posted 27 December, 2012 take robinson from blackburn he would do for now!
JPTCount Posted 27 December, 2012 Posted 27 December, 2012 I'm only for someone new if hes better than those 3, and bot jus more competition. freidel or Gomes plz
SB Posted 27 December, 2012 Posted 27 December, 2012 http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/4715113/Adkins-No-comfort-for-keeper-blunder.html
Window Cleaner Posted 27 December, 2012 Posted 27 December, 2012 http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/4715113/Adkins-No-comfort-for-keeper-blunder.html NA must be desperately concerned about his very position being undermined by keeper error after keeper error. At this moment and without doing anything apart from stopping the stoppable as he would say we should be on 22 points and comfortably installed mid-table instead of hovering over the relegation zone with a pile of sh*tty away fixtures stacking up.
rick1976.4.38 Posted 27 December, 2012 Posted 27 December, 2012 friedel or given,we have to do something in january,cos the ones we have are not premiership quality
Saint Martini Posted 27 December, 2012 Posted 27 December, 2012 Given? If he can't get a game at Villa why would he be better then our goalkeepers? There's one fact and that is that so far our goalkeepers have cost us more points then they've gained. In fact the only match where I can really say that one of them made a decisive save that meant points gained in the end was Gazza against Villa, and it wasn't that difficult a save. I voted for Gazza since I don't believe we have money to invest left (I'd be happy to be proven wrong) and even though he has made is fair share of mistakes he has also shown potential. He's quick and agile and he got a good long-kick (he just needs to use it with better judgement, Davis on the other hand mi****s the ball all the time). Boruc is a big unknown for me. I know how good he can be from his time at Celtic, Fiorentina and the Polish national team but he was awful in the matches he played for us. He looked unfit physically and mentally and unless that has changed dramatically he is not a solution.
Thedelldays Posted 27 December, 2012 Posted 27 December, 2012 the whole keeper and CB thing with us was really really odd... two positions we needed as best quality as we could get....yet probably got the worst in regards to transfers.. I still thought Boruc had the tools..but it does not seem like it
MAY-Z Posted 28 December, 2012 Posted 28 December, 2012 I'm afraid KD showed why he isn't a Prem keeper again. Schwarzer totally dominated his whole penalty area, Davis is yet again rooted to the line as balls go into the six-yard box and their goal was a gift, I'm afraid. maybe if anyone from our midfield was covering the left hand side or if shaw wasnt skinned so easily of if yoshida hadnt defended the 6 yard box or if fonte had been closer to berbatov to goal could have been prevented, but apart from having gadget arms there wasnt heaps davis could do about teh goal as teh fulham player had all day to direct his cross as there was no pressue applied to him
Goalie66 Posted 28 December, 2012 Posted 28 December, 2012 I agree that Davis is not Premier League quality despite the fact that he can be a good shop stopper. On Saturday his positioning for their goal was appaling and the reason why he flapped at the centre. If you noticed he was in the centre of the goal and had not covered his near post. If he had covered his near post he would have narrowed the angles for the centre and probably would have be able to intercept it quite easily. Unfortunately there appears to be a dearth of "box commanding "keepers. Freidel is head and shoulders above many and would love to see him between the sticks.
OldNick Posted 28 December, 2012 Posted 28 December, 2012 Just think if we had a half decent keeper then we could be sitting pretty in 8th place. i think if NA had not taken RL off in games when we were winning we would also be at least 5 points better off
Window Cleaner Posted 28 December, 2012 Posted 28 December, 2012 (edited) Given? If he can't get a game at Villa why would he be better then our goalkeepers? Don't know what they see in Guzman really, Edited 28 December, 2012 by Window Cleaner
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