Dr Who? Posted 26 December, 2012 Share Posted 26 December, 2012 If we struggled today, SRL is off form and GR doesn't like the rain then I predict we will be battered at Stoke. I so hope I am wrong but having seen the Sunderland performance and read what I have today stoke is not the place we wanna really go right now Played Sunderland at just the wrong time, a reading seem to have given them confidence, they went on and beat us and then Man City today and a 3rd clean sheet out of the last 4 games for them. Another team who seem to be tightening up, and building from the back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dangermouth Posted 26 December, 2012 Share Posted 26 December, 2012 When the ball comes to the front players they're either usually too slow to get to it, conditions aside which makes it shift a bit more when it hits the deck, or they're facing back the way they've come and don't come short for balls from Ramirez which is mostly what he likes to play. RL and Saints' lack of pace shows when the through ball goes through and we can't get on the end of it. If/when we get the proper link-up play in between the forward(s) e.g. RL and support quickly we can be very good. But it seems we only do that for a few minutes per game. Fulham will struggle this season, Stoke will be murder on Saturday- I'd rest anyone who's lightweight/can play and just try to slug it out. Boruc up front? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 26 December, 2012 Share Posted 26 December, 2012 Decent point considering. Buy new keeper, finally, please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex Ringwood Saint Posted 26 December, 2012 Share Posted 26 December, 2012 Fulham will finish above us, and we have taken points of them this season...fair results... On to the next battle, still above the bottom three....the games that have left us hovering dangerously were the Norwich and Sunderland games... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 26 December, 2012 Share Posted 26 December, 2012 Decent point considering. Buy new keeper, finally, please.at least you are consistent DT. I do agree we need a keeper though. We also need to strengthen the whole team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alright Dave Posted 26 December, 2012 Share Posted 26 December, 2012 Decent performance, last 3rd let us down Off day for Gaston and Ricky This! Same as last week to a certain extent! We control alot of the ball and play, defending better than earlier in the season, but Puncheon aside have lost our attacking mojo in the last two games! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wessex saint Posted 26 December, 2012 Share Posted 26 December, 2012 SRL is unfortunately being found out at this level. Don't get me wrong - I love him to bits for what he's done but he's just not mobile and agile enough for this level.He also looks like he's worked this out as well - his body language is terrible. Adkins got lucky..... he didn't make a change until 12 mins left despite the fact we went down with 8 mins gone and then looked utterly toothless! (Yes - I know he chnaged the formation prior to that but it didn't make a difference!) Defender did not need to handball it - a very lucky pen which was almost saved. Finally Ramirez. Hmmmmm you're allowed a 'luxury player' if he sometimes scores or assists. At the moment he seems like a real luxury..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 26 December, 2012 Share Posted 26 December, 2012 I hope to god that they view a quality keeper as a high priority because that put us behind the eight-ball from the get-go. And a quality CM is critical IMO because I get the serious willies whenever Davis is playing, and Schneiderlin works his butt off without injecting much real quality. I think we play better from the back with Gazzaniga, even his kicking is better. I don't think we will be bringing in another keeper unless it's the likes of Friedel being released. Davis was all over the place several times today when crosses came in. S.Davis was almost anonymous, we showed more balance with Rodriguez on and Ramirez floating out to the right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Durman Posted 26 December, 2012 Share Posted 26 December, 2012 Well done & good result. Berbatov should have been sent off. Cork, Davis & Schneiderlin in the middle were excellent as was Puncheon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaSaint Posted 26 December, 2012 Share Posted 26 December, 2012 Derry and WC above sum us up. Having a go at 2 of the clubs best servants in the past 3 years. If it wasn't for KD and RL we would still be CCC at best. Nothing like hiding back in the shadows and waiting to pick holes at the first chance. I'm sure both players could do better but nobody is perfect. Not much point having a post match thread if we're not going to talk about how people played today, is there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpturner Posted 26 December, 2012 Share Posted 26 December, 2012 I don't think we will be bringing in another keeper unless it's the likes of Friedel being released.Friedel has signed a new deal with Spurs - today I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 26 December, 2012 Share Posted 26 December, 2012 This! Same as last week to a certain extent! We control alot of the ball and play, defending better than earlier in the season, but Puncheon aside have lost our attacking mojo in the last two games! Suppose this was the danger, we had to get better defensively but we have done this at the expense of our attacking flair. We have missed Lallana i think too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 26 December, 2012 Share Posted 26 December, 2012 Friedel has signed a new deal with Spurs - today I think. Robinson (Blackburn) or Given (AV)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 26 December, 2012 Share Posted 26 December, 2012 Happy with that, good point. Gaston miles better in the hole. Need another winger to play left side, thats what is not helping! I did say that before the game started. I'm amazed that Adkins started him on the left again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpturner Posted 26 December, 2012 Share Posted 26 December, 2012 Robinson (Blackburn) or Given (AV)?Given - yes, Robinson - not especially (for me at least). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaSaint Posted 26 December, 2012 Share Posted 26 December, 2012 Friedel has signed a new deal with Spurs - today I think. I'm not surprised. I couldn't see Spurs letting him go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 26 December, 2012 Share Posted 26 December, 2012 Derry and WC above sum us up. Having a go at 2 of the clubs best servants in the past 3 years. If it wasn't for KD and RL we would still be CCC at best. Nothing like hiding back in the shadows and waiting to pick holes at the first chance. I'm sure both players could do better but nobody is perfect. Davis is a sub standard goalkeeper and lucky to be even getting a game. I never criticised Lambert, the only thing I think is he doesn't get into the box enough. The goal should have been cut out by Davis but he misjudged it. When Gazzaniga made a mistake the whole bloody web went into melt down. If Davis stays in goal we will go down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olallana Posted 26 December, 2012 Share Posted 26 December, 2012 Given - yes, Robinson - not especially (for me at least). but Villa will never let Given go to us in this situation when we are fighting them in the bottom of the table.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaSaint Posted 26 December, 2012 Share Posted 26 December, 2012 Given - yes, Robinson - not especially (for me at least). Robinson needs to shed about 20 pounds, but he's needed to do that for five years+ so I can't see us changing that too much. I can't see Villa letting Given go to a relegation rival. Back to the drawing board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpturner Posted 26 December, 2012 Share Posted 26 December, 2012 but Villa will never let Given go to us in this situation when we are fighting them in the bottom of the table.... Probably not - just answering the question posed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 26 December, 2012 Share Posted 26 December, 2012 I did say that before the game started. I'm amazed that Adkins started him on the left again. Yeah he needs to play behind the striker but who would offer anything from the left? Wide player who can play both sides is becoming a very key January addition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gingerone Posted 26 December, 2012 Share Posted 26 December, 2012 Ok. Summary. Waited too long to sit Ramirez in his natural position. I did say we needed to recover the points lost against fulham but will take the point. Looking from the outside in we now need to gamble on Rodrigues. Love Ricky to bits but he is too flat footed, slow and seems to be in a world of his own lately. Maybe a spell on the bench may refocus him. Good day out so far. Hard work getting here but massive credit to the droves that made the journey. Brilliant vocal support second half. Pint time :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 26 December, 2012 Share Posted 26 December, 2012 Given - yes, Robinson - not especially (for me at least). Ross Turnbull? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gingerone Posted 26 December, 2012 Share Posted 26 December, 2012 Ok. Summary. Waited too long to sit Ramirez in his natural position. I did say we needed to recover the points lost against fulham but will take the point. Looking from the outside in we now need to gamble on Rodrigues. Love Ricky to bits but he is too flat footed, slow and seems to be in a world of his own lately. Maybe a spell on the bench may refocus him. Good day out so far. Hard work getting here but massive credit to the droves that made the journey. Brilliant vocal support second half. Pint time :-) Sunderland sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 26 December, 2012 Share Posted 26 December, 2012 Ross Turnbull? Heurelio Gomes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitch01 Posted 26 December, 2012 Share Posted 26 December, 2012 Have always said Boruc is the best out of the three if match fit. I doubt Nigel will make another change though. His position is being made increasingly difficult by the fact that none of the keepers are playing like they want to keep the shirt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 26 December, 2012 Share Posted 26 December, 2012 Ok. Summary. Waited too long to sit Ramirez in his natural position. I did say we needed to recover the points lost against fulham but will take the point. Looking from the outside in we now need to gamble on Rodrigues. Love Ricky to bits but he is too flat footed, slow and seems to be in a world of his own lately. Maybe a spell on the bench may refocus him. Good day out so far. Hard work getting here but massive credit to the droves that made the journey. Brilliant vocal support second half. Pint time :-) I wouldn't have wanted anyone else taking that penalty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaSaint Posted 26 December, 2012 Share Posted 26 December, 2012 I know one thing. If NA and co. aren't telling Ramirez to shoot more, they deserve a kick in the groin. That's exactly what we thought we were getting when we bought him - the ability to cut in and split a defence with a pass - or rocket one at a top corner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Posted 26 December, 2012 Share Posted 26 December, 2012 Decent performance, last 3rd let us down Off day for Gaston and Ricky Rubbish gaston was good I thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaSaint Posted 26 December, 2012 Share Posted 26 December, 2012 Heurelio Gomes? With his history of clangers, this forum would be in permanent meltdown. In fairness he's made some absolutely stunning saves as well, but he's much more a reaction keeper than a box dominator. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 26 December, 2012 Share Posted 26 December, 2012 Rubbish gaston was good I thought. Far enough, thought his touch was poor today. Great shot towards the end though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Who? Posted 26 December, 2012 Share Posted 26 December, 2012 Keepers make mistakes all the time. It is when they make them every game it is a problem. Kelvins first mistake of note since his recall. Keep him in for the next game, he is doing a good job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gingerone Posted 26 December, 2012 Share Posted 26 December, 2012 I wouldn't have wanted anyone else taking that penalty. Have you seen it yet? It was not his best but granted he is quality from the spot. Was really out of sorts today. Seriously dawn French can jump higher than our Ricky. Second pint time :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Posted 26 December, 2012 Share Posted 26 December, 2012 You can never tell from that miserable old 4-4-2 addict, we were good everywhere apart from Kelv,Rickie and Gaston. U are really out of touch. Gaston played well second half. We're u there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 26 December, 2012 Share Posted 26 December, 2012 Missed this game, but that to me looks like a cracking away point, at a tough ground such as craven cottage. We are genuinely now very competitive in this league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suewhistle Posted 26 December, 2012 Share Posted 26 December, 2012 The BBC report said: "Rickie Lambert's late spot-kick secured a deserved point for Southampton against Fulham at Craven Cottage. [snip] It was all Southampton from then on, though, with Jason Puncheon and Rickie Lambert both close to equalising. [snip] Sidwell came close in the dying minutes, as did Hangeland, but the Saints went home with a worthy draw. " Could be worse, I suppose... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 26 December, 2012 Share Posted 26 December, 2012 Have you seen it yet? It was not his best but granted he is quality from the spot. Was really out of sorts today. Seriously dawn French can jump higher than our Ricky. Second pint time :-) Unusually for him not in the corner but rising and really thumped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doggface Posted 26 December, 2012 Share Posted 26 December, 2012 Not a great performance, A for effort in 2nd half, D- for quality which has been poor the last 2 games. Why are we so hoofy at the moment. mentions to yosh, fonte again. adkins selections and tactics have been so random recently. Big point however Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 26 December, 2012 Share Posted 26 December, 2012 The BBC report said: "Rickie Lambert's late spot-kick secured a deserved point for Southampton against Fulham at Craven Cottage. [snip] It was all Southampton from then on, though, with Jason Puncheon and Rickie Lambert both close to equalising. [snip] Sidwell came close in the dying minutes, as did Hangeland, but the Saints went home with a worthy draw. " Could be worse, I suppose... Just about sums it up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Posted 26 December, 2012 Share Posted 26 December, 2012 Thought we played well after first 20 mins. Excellent support. Thought cork(after goal error) and puncheon were very good. Ramirez did some very good things. Rickie didn't play well but didn't get any support from Davis at all. Think Adkins should have taken davis off earlier. Another goal keeper error. Cost us six points goalies now.good result and good support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaneNero Posted 26 December, 2012 Share Posted 26 December, 2012 Good result. Another goalkeeping error has cost us points that should have been ours!... I wonder if Adkins will go for ANOTHER goalkeeper in the transfer window. Our defence has transformed itself from the start of the season, never thought that would happen. We're missing Adam as usual. Target a point at Stoke then see what happens in this transfer window. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olallana Posted 26 December, 2012 Share Posted 26 December, 2012 Not a great performance, A for effort in 2nd half, D- for quality which has been poor the last 2 games. Why are we so hoofy at the moment. mentions to yosh, fonte again. adkins selections and tactics have been so random recently. Big point however Probably because the weather conditions has been a bit....wet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 26 December, 2012 Share Posted 26 December, 2012 Not a great performance, A for effort in 2nd half, D- for quality which has been poor the last 2 games. Why are we so hoofy at the moment. mentions to yosh, fonte again. adkins selections and tactics have been so random recently. Big point however It's probably an adjustment we've had to make. We could have continued to play open, attacking football, and be picked off constantly - or we could try a be a bit more competitive and have other options to launch the ball. It's helped, because we're so much more solid now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 26 December, 2012 Share Posted 26 December, 2012 Great point for us. Home fans boo'd at full-time which is always a good sign. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Posted 26 December, 2012 Share Posted 26 December, 2012 It's probably an adjustment we've had to make. We could have continued to play open, attacking football, and be picked off constantly - or we could try a be a bit more competitive and have other options to launch the ball. It's helped, because we're so much more solid now. Thought in punch and Ramirez we had a fair bit of quality tbf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 26 December, 2012 Share Posted 26 December, 2012 A decent point away. Need another win and a couple of draws needed away Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faz Posted 26 December, 2012 Share Posted 26 December, 2012 We were playing hoofball and he was isolated. Adkins got lucky again today. Ramirez playing left then right,he should be in the hole from the off. way to late to get Rodriguez on. he seems to be using a 'pick and mix' team selection process...a lucky dip method if you like. just like the goalkeeping situation. Predictable.......and tiresome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 26 December, 2012 Share Posted 26 December, 2012 Derry and WC above sum us up. Having a go at 2 of the clubs best servants in the past 3 years. If it wasn't for KD and RL we would still be CCC at best. Nothing like hiding back in the shadows and waiting to pick holes at the first chance. I'm sure both players could do better but nobody is perfect. I don't live in the past, if having given great service was a selection criteria then I'd guess we'd still be playing MLT, Channon and Paine. These 2 players are our weak links at present, they need replacing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70's Mike Posted 26 December, 2012 Share Posted 26 December, 2012 Stayed at Home with Missus but 2 lads went, my eldest is a bl**dy moaner but have heard from him happy with a point,he felt we battled and were not out fought. Believe is with the players shame a few of the internet warriors were a bit more positive although i note some of the main moaners missing at moment because we got a point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 26 December, 2012 Share Posted 26 December, 2012 (edited) Stayed at Home with Missus but 2 lads went' date=' my eldest is a bl**dy moaner but have heard from him happy with a point,he felt we battled and were not out fought. Believe is with the players shame a few of the internet warriors were a bit more positive although i note some of the main moaners missing at moment because we got a point[/quote'] Match thread was generally positive today imho Edited 26 December, 2012 by Glasgow_Saint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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