Appy Posted 26 December, 2012 Posted 26 December, 2012 Seriously doubt this will change anything. I think it might, new manager may not like him, still can't see him staying here though.
david in sweden Posted 26 December, 2012 Posted 26 December, 2012 Sharp isn't good enough for the Prem, QUOTE] easily said but to judge someone on the basis of 2 sub.apps ...after that appalling start to the season is a bit harsh..he certainly wasn't the worst performer at that time, and now that we have a bit of a goal drought, he must surely be worth another chance for a few weeks......?
david in sweden Posted 26 December, 2012 Posted 26 December, 2012 I think it might, new manager may not like him, still can't see him staying here though. he's still our player and if we bring him back... he'll get Mayuka's place on the bench. If he doesn't make an impression we can still sell him to Forest before 31st January......as they are sure to miss his presence.
Lord Duckhunter Posted 26 December, 2012 Posted 26 December, 2012 He's played 20 league games and scored the grand total of 6 goals. If anybodt really believes he is the answer then I do wonder what planet they're on. ****hing hell even David Nugent's got nearly double that. There is not one Premiership side that would be looking at signing Billy Sharp, not even Reading.
Saint Charlie Posted 26 December, 2012 Posted 26 December, 2012 NA said on Solent after the game that he is on loan there til the end of the season and we will look at it then. He said Sharp is a good player and its good he is scoring goals but that he probably wouldnt have had enough game time here. He has obviously seen him at very close quarters in training etc and from this interview it was pretty clear Sharp won't be back this season. Its easy to be sentimental but as a couple have said his first touch and awareness and allround game isnt good enough for the league we are in.
Junior Mullet Posted 26 December, 2012 Posted 26 December, 2012 His game is not good enough for this league. Agree totally with the club's decision to loan him out.
Restark19 Posted 26 December, 2012 Posted 26 December, 2012 Interesting to see what happens IF we sign a new forward (someone like Phillips) next month whether they take the 11 shirt, tenuous I guess but may be a sign on whether he has a future here
krissyboy31 Posted 26 December, 2012 Posted 26 December, 2012 I think the only reason Sharpy took the loan option to Forest was SO'D. Can see him wanting to come back now. Got to be a better option than sending on De Ridder to turn a game around.
Appy Posted 26 December, 2012 Posted 26 December, 2012 I wonder who made the decision to get rid in the first place. It absolutely wasn't Billy.
krissyboy31 Posted 26 December, 2012 Posted 26 December, 2012 I wonder who made the decision to get rid in the first place. It absolutely wasn't Billy. It's probably got more to do with the ridiculous 25 man squad rule. We had brought in J-Rod, wanted Ramirez and Mayuka, were never going to offload Lambert, so that left nil free spaces.
tedmaul Posted 26 December, 2012 Posted 26 December, 2012 Sharp really doesn't have the pace for the top flight imo. I know Lambert doesn't either, but he does offer more all round.
Turkish Posted 26 December, 2012 Posted 26 December, 2012 Sharp really doesn't have the pace for the top flight imo. I know Lambert doesn't either, but he does offer more all round. He's a totally different sort of player, he is a 6 yard box goal poacher. He won't be any good to us in games where we don't get a lot of Possesion or need him as an outlet but what he is ideal for is when we are chasing a game and need a goal, as a sub. In all honesty to do think he'd have made less of an impact than Mayuka and Rodriguez have so far in their time here?
Dig Dig Posted 26 December, 2012 Posted 26 December, 2012 He's a totally different sort of player, he is a 6 yard box goal poacher. He won't be any good to us in games where we don't get a lot of Possesion or need him as an outlet but what he is ideal for is when we are chasing a game and need a goal, as a sub. In all honesty to do think he'd have made less of an impact than Mayuka and Rodriguez have so far in their time here? Probably
Glasgow_Saint Posted 26 December, 2012 Posted 26 December, 2012 Sharp really doesn't have the pace for the top flight imo. I know Lambert doesn't either, but he does offer more all round. I dont agree, Sharp defends from the front and will harass defenders. Bellamy and Robbie Keane are NOT similar to Sharp and have been excellent in the prem
Dig Dig Posted 26 December, 2012 Posted 26 December, 2012 I dont agree, Sharp defends from the front and will harass defenders. Bellamy and Robbie Keane are similar to Sharp and have been excellent in the prem Nothing like either of those!
Glasgow_Saint Posted 26 December, 2012 Posted 26 December, 2012 Nothing like either of those! Ok thanks - i have changed my post
Dig Dig Posted 26 December, 2012 Posted 26 December, 2012 Ok thanks - i have changed my post Cheers mate. Remember to check with me via PM before posting in future
Glasgow_Saint Posted 26 December, 2012 Posted 26 December, 2012 Cheers mate. Remember to check with me via PM before posting in future I will. thank you for the oppurtunity
supersonic Posted 26 December, 2012 Posted 26 December, 2012 if Billy was good enough we wouldn't have let him go out on loan.
Saint Charlie Posted 26 December, 2012 Posted 26 December, 2012 if Billy was good enough we wouldn't have let him go out on loan. Correct. Only Prem squad he would get into is Reading IMO which tells its own story. Quite why so many want him back and then are happy to slag off Lambert and Ramirez is beyond me. Would you have been confident Sharp would have slotted that pressure pen today?
Golden Balls Posted 26 December, 2012 Posted 26 December, 2012 I met Billy a couple of months ago and he definitely didn't want to leave and seemed pretty sure he wouldn't be back. At that time he had not been great at Forest so got the feeling he would have jumped at the second chance back here. Not so sure now though
supersonic Posted 26 December, 2012 Posted 26 December, 2012 Correct. Only Prem squad he would get into is Reading IMO which tells its own story. Quite why so many want him back and then are happy to slag off Lambert and Ramirez is beyond me. Would you have been confident Sharp would have slotted that pressure pen today? based on his one and only penalty attempt for us v Blackpool, no, shocking penalty. I agree with you, why people obsess over Sharp is beyond me. When Lee and himself were fit, he couldn't get in the first team, so how people think he'd get in our team now is ridiculous? who would we drop? £12m Ramirez or an in-form Puncheon?
Smirking_Saint Posted 26 December, 2012 Posted 26 December, 2012 Cheers mate. Remember to check with me via PM before posting in future Everytime he PM's can you just tell him not to post ?
Turkish Posted 26 December, 2012 Posted 26 December, 2012 Even Le Fondre has scored a few this season playing in a terrible team and he isn't as good as Billy. FFS
Smirking_Saint Posted 26 December, 2012 Posted 26 December, 2012 Even Le Fondre has scored a few this season playing in a terrible team and he isn't as good as Billy. FFS They play a sort of four four two though, I just dont think he is the man, why he hasnt given J Rod more game time as an actual striker I dont know.
Colbury Posted 26 December, 2012 Posted 26 December, 2012 who would we drop? £12m Ramirez or an in-form Puncheon? Nobodies suggested he should start. I think a few peoples point is that Sharp could have an impact off the bench in a situation where we are chasing a goal.
Golden Balls Posted 26 December, 2012 Posted 26 December, 2012 Nobodies suggested he should start. I think a few peoples point is that Sharp could have an impact off the bench in a situation where we are chasing a goal. Like today really.
Smirking_Saint Posted 26 December, 2012 Posted 26 December, 2012 Like today really. Well, like I said earlier, Lambert is clinical infront of goal, so is J Rod, our issue is creating chances in the final third, how often do we get ANY chances in the box this season ? Except for headers ? Sharp wont change that, Id rather the cash for a new decent wide man to compliment what we have, CB or GK
david in sweden Posted 28 December, 2012 Posted 28 December, 2012 Nobodies suggested he should start. I think a few peoples point is that Sharp could have an impact off the bench in a situation where we are chasing a goal. Good point !........other than Rodriguez, Sharp is the only player likely to pick up half-chances in the box. Guly is good for nuisance value in attack, but little else.
Chez Posted 28 December, 2012 Posted 28 December, 2012 Even Le Fondre has scored a few this season playing in a terrible team and he isn't as good as Billy. FFS Is he ? Your wife is the most beautiful syndrome going on there. He's slow, possibly the slowest non-big man striker I have ever seen, has a poor first touch, no where near good enough for the premiership and offers pretty much nothing in the build up. You carry him in games hoping for a chance to fall his way. Do we really have 10 other players good enough to enable us to have a goal hanger in the side? Maybe if we'd kept him he'd have 5 goals like Fondre, but maybe we'd be bottom of the league too. I was glad we let him go out on loan. For the record I don't rate Lee, Fonte or Barnard either. Rodriguez is still developing, but looks a better all round player to me. Who the hell knows what Mayuka can do.
Glasgow_Saint Posted 28 December, 2012 Posted 28 December, 2012 Everytime he PM's can you just tell him not to post ? what are you like? #crazytimes
egg Posted 28 December, 2012 Posted 28 December, 2012 Chez hits the nail on the head. A little striker needs to offer pace, a good first touch , and the ability to come short and offer something in the build up. Billy offers none of these. We have better. Rodriguez actually offers all of the above and has height and power. The lad isn't premier quality. Move him on permanently and get another winger in to feed our strikers.
dronskisaint Posted 28 December, 2012 Posted 28 December, 2012 Is he ? Your wife is the most beautiful syndrome going on there. He's slow, possibly the slowest non-big man striker I have ever seen, has a poor first touch, no where near good enough for the premiership and offers pretty much nothing in the build up. You carry him in games hoping for a chance to fall his way. Do we really have 10 other players good enough to enable us to have a goal hanger in the side? Maybe if we'd kept him he'd have 5 goals like Fondre, but maybe we'd be bottom of the league too. I was glad we let him go out on loan. For the record I don't rate Lee, Fonte or Barnard either. Rodriguez is still developing, but looks a better all round player to me. Who the hell knows what Mayuka can do. Forte?!?
Miltonroader07 Posted 28 December, 2012 Posted 28 December, 2012 Scored 2 already today and had one disallowed. Am I right in thinking that it was a season long loan, can we call back it January? I feel we have made a huge mistake letting him. Yeah big-mistake but I dont think that NA has the balls to recall him and show he was wrong.
Saint Charlie Posted 28 December, 2012 Posted 28 December, 2012 Yeah big-mistake but I dont think that NA has the balls to recall him and show he was wrong. Recall him and then never play him because he isnt good enough?
the stain Posted 28 December, 2012 Posted 28 December, 2012 I wonder who made the decision to get rid in the first place. It absolutely wasn't Billy. I suspect it was the management, having decided that he isn't good enough for the premiership.
Pilchards Posted 28 December, 2012 Posted 28 December, 2012 I'm not sure Billy Sharp coming back is an option because he now lives back with his wife who will NOT move south. Its funny how he says he wants to come back to let the saints fans think he's a great guy and yes he did love it down here but he knows that situations have changed now. I predict we will sell him in this transfer window or Forest buy him at the end of the season. Quite frankly we took Sharp as a desperate option last season which turned out well as it got us in the premiership.
Saint Charlie Posted 28 December, 2012 Posted 28 December, 2012 I'm not sure Billy Sharp coming back is an option because he now lives back with his wife who will NOT move south. Its funny how he says he wants to come back to let the saints fans think he's a great guy and yes he did love it down here but he knows that situations have changed now. I predict we will sell him in this transfer window or Forest buy him at the end of the season. Quite frankly we took Sharp as a desperate option last season which turned out well as it got us in the premiership. You said he and his wife had split a couple of weeks back, a few days later their son was born. She might not have liked living here but don't think that is why he moved on loan. It was because NA told him he wasnt going to feature much. Agree that we got him as Hooper or JR were unattainable and he did a good job. Clearly not a Prem class player though (especially in our style/system) so right decision for all parties.
Pilchards Posted 28 December, 2012 Posted 28 December, 2012 You said he and his wife had split a couple of weeks back, a few days later their son was born. She might not have liked living here but don't think that is why he moved on loan. It was because NA told him he wasnt going to feature much. Agree that we got him as Hooper or JR were unattainable and he did a good job. Clearly not a Prem class player though (especially in our style/system) so right decision for all parties. A few weeks back I said that Sharp had moved to us as he had split with his wife and wanted a fresh start. What has gone on since then and having a baby does suggest they are back together again and him coming back in no longer an option as his wife will not move. Maybe he will do a Rickie Lambert who's family still live in merseyside I'm guessing.
Saint Charlie Posted 28 December, 2012 Posted 28 December, 2012 A few weeks back I said that Sharp had moved to us as he had split with his wife and wanted a fresh start. What has gone on since then and having a baby does suggest they are back together again and him coming back in no longer an option as his wife will not move. Maybe he will do a Rickie Lambert who's family still live in merseyside I'm guessing. When they first moved down here there was no suggestion they had split. She was tweeting about moving here, meeting all the other player wives/partners etc. Plus the baby would have been conceived in Feb sort of time, ie just after he moved here. Also pretty sure RL's family live down here in North Baddesley, certainly his wife and kids do.
Pilchards Posted 28 December, 2012 Posted 28 December, 2012 When they first moved down here there was no suggestion they had split. She was tweeting about moving here, meeting all the other player wives/partners etc. Plus the baby would have been conceived in Feb sort of time, ie just after he moved here. Also pretty sure RL's family live down here in North Baddesley, certainly his wife and kids do. I too could not work out how he could of split up with his wife but he just did. Was told about it from a guy who's in the group that go out with the players clubbing etc. As for Rickie, I added guessing as I thought his wife and kids lived up there still.
Window Cleaner Posted 28 December, 2012 Posted 28 December, 2012 As for Rickie, I added guessing as I thought his wife and kids lived up there still. And yet RL said in the recent hospital visit interview that his youngest had recently been in the General at some time in the recent past. Information is out there, just need to assimilate it :rolleyes:
Dig Dig Posted 28 December, 2012 Posted 28 December, 2012 I too could not work out how he could of split up with his wife but he just did. Was told about it from a guy who's in the group that go out with the players clubbing etc. As for Rickie, I added guessing as I thought his wife and kids lived up there still. You said that Sharp had definitely split up with his Mrs, from the horses mouth apparently. Now it turns out its a mate of a mate kind of thing. Up there with your "adams back!" post which was also clearly nonsense.
Smirking_Saint Posted 28 December, 2012 Posted 28 December, 2012 I suspect it was the management, having decided that he isn't good enough for the premiership. It was Adkins decision
jimmysaint7 Posted 28 December, 2012 Posted 28 December, 2012 I'm not sure Billy Sharp coming back is an option because he now lives back with his wife who will NOT move south. Its funny how he says he wants to come back to let the saints fans think he's a great guy and yes he did love it down here but he knows that situations have changed now. I predict we will sell him in this transfer window or Forest buy him at the end of the season. Quite frankly we took Sharp as a desperate option last season which turned out well as it got us in the premiership. Has he said he wants to come back?
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 28 December, 2012 Posted 28 December, 2012 The debate is superfluous imo. Simply put Sharp is not good enough for the Prem but he can certainly do it in the Championship. If we go down then I can see him coming back esp after they sacked SoD. He's a good player but has no pace and a poor first touch.
Pilchards Posted 28 December, 2012 Posted 28 December, 2012 You said that Sharp had definitely split up with his Mrs, from the horses mouth apparently. Now it turns out its a mate of a mate kind of thing. Up there with your "adams back!" post which was also clearly nonsense. Yes he had split with his wife at the time of his move to saints. Find out the truth like me and stop dismissing those that know. Lallana's back? I said his injury is not as bad as first thought and he is going to be back within 2 weeks yes.
Pilchards Posted 28 December, 2012 Posted 28 December, 2012 Has he said he wants to come back? He would LOVE to come back but his wife won't move south.
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