david in sweden Posted 22 December, 2012 Posted 22 December, 2012 ......Nigel Adkins' (now much-quoted) question to the squad (according to a Jack Cork interview) published in several papers. Once again, it shows a maturity and transparency in the approach of the manager to his players, and not the dictatorial attitude we are used to from other " big-name " managers. Obviously a few grievances have been " openly- aired " and some troubling issues put aside. If this is a sign of the future develoment of our club, then I am very much encouraged. People on this site are seldom backward in coming forward with their views, but it's good that the manager is willing to listen to those who matter most in this issue - the players themselves.
Zurichsaint Posted 22 December, 2012 Posted 22 December, 2012 I think he's referring to the 'clear the air talks' http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11700/8349223/Southampton-midfielder-Jack-Cork-highlights-importance-of-clear-the-air-talks Honestly - I don't care how they managed to sort out our form, I'm just very happy that it has turned around. If it helped to ask the players' opinions, then that's fine. I still think that a combination of easier fixtures, cork returning from injury, and a change in left back has made most of the difference.
Bucks Saint Posted 22 December, 2012 Posted 22 December, 2012 A less than clear post David, but as i was aware of this, I get your gist and I agree
Wes Tender Posted 22 December, 2012 Posted 22 December, 2012 ......Nigel Adkins' (now much-quoted) question to the squad (according to a Jack Cork interview) published in several papers. Once again, it shows a maturity and transparency in the approach of the manager to his players, and not the dictatorial attitude we are used to from other " big-name " managers. Obviously a few grievances have been " openly- aired " and some troubling issues put aside. If this is a sign of the future develoment of our club, then I am very much encouraged. People on this site are seldom backward in coming forward with their views, but it's good that the manager is willing to listen to those who matter most in this issue - the players themselves. Well, it certainly seems to be producing the results, although it is arguable that the fixture list has been kinder to us since the opening first few matches, which were probably the most difficult of any team's since the beginning of the Premiership. But psychologically, Adkins recognised that the team's confidence still needed to be boosted to get us back into the winning habit, despite the fixture list being easier, so it seems that his tactics have been spot on. But looking back over his tenure here so far, there isn't much in the way of dissent or lack of respect for him that filters out of the changing rooms, so it appears that the "together as one" approach is productive and effective.
the stain Posted 22 December, 2012 Posted 22 December, 2012 I think he's referring to the 'clear the air talks' http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11700/8349223/Southampton-midfielder-Jack-Cork-highlights-importance-of-clear-the-air-talks Honestly - I don't care how they managed to sort out our form, I'm just very happy that it has turned around. If it helped to ask the players' opinions, then that's fine. I still think that a combination of easier fixtures, cork returning from injury, and a change in left back has made most of the difference. Thanks, I was unaware of that story.
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 22 December, 2012 Posted 22 December, 2012 Glad that Adkins had the humility to ask for advice. However, slightly worried that he had to ask advice about playing his best team...
The9 Posted 22 December, 2012 Posted 22 December, 2012 Fwiw, that inclusive approach is straight out of the FA Coaching Handbook, much of which is written by Les Reed...
Saint Without a Halo Posted 22 December, 2012 Posted 22 December, 2012 Glad that Adkins had the humility to ask for advice. However, slightly worried that he had to ask advice about playing his best team... No harm ever in seeking advice the wider you seek it the better, as long as the decison to abide by any of the advice or not, remains yours! That is a sure sign of good management
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 22 December, 2012 Posted 22 December, 2012 No harm ever in seeking advice the wider you seek it the better, as long as the decison to abide by any of the advice or not, remains yours! That is a sure sign of good management I can see that. Can't see too many other Managers doing it though.
Turkish Posted 22 December, 2012 Posted 22 December, 2012 ......Nigel Adkins' (now much-quoted) question to the squad (according to a Jack Cork interview) published in several papers. Once again, it shows a maturity and transparency in the approach of the manager to his players, and not the dictatorial attitude we are used to from other " big-name " managers. Obviously a few grievances have been " openly- aired " and some troubling issues put aside. If this is a sign of the future develoment of our club, then I am very much encouraged. People on this site are seldom backward in coming forward with their views, but it's good that the manager is willing to listen to those who matter most in this issue - the players themselves. Not quite sure how you know what other mangers do. It's seems the old dictator type approach is a thing of the past. Only this week Alex Ferguson has said he has had to adapt his approach in recent years and scream at millionaire 20 year olds doesn't work anymore. I think this approach had been left in the 90s.
Dig Dig Posted 22 December, 2012 Posted 22 December, 2012 I can see that. Can't see too many other Managers doing it though. Other managers don't ask their team for input?
Saint-Fred Posted 22 December, 2012 Posted 22 December, 2012 I can see that. Can't see too many other Managers doing it though. I don't think this is new! (Not much is these days) didn't Bobby Robson do the same in the World Cup in 86?
Wade Garrett Posted 22 December, 2012 Posted 22 December, 2012 Not quite sure how you know what other mangers do. It's seems the old dictator type approach is a thing of the past. Only this week Alex Ferguson has said he has had to adapt his approach in recent years and scream at millionaire 20 year olds doesn't work anymore. I think this approach had been left in the 90s. If any player crosses Ferguson they get disciplined, all behind closed doors. If they become a problem he moves them on, no matter how good they are. I don't think his methods have changed that much over the years, and is exactly how problems should be sorted.
Wade Garrett Posted 22 December, 2012 Posted 22 December, 2012 But looking back over his tenure here so far, there isn't much in the way of dissent or lack of respect for him that filters out of the changing rooms, so it appears that the "together as one" approach is productive and effective. I have to say that seems to be spot on, despite the 'info' I was getting earlier in the season about problems in the dressing room, that would appear to be bullsh*t.
Turkish Posted 22 December, 2012 Posted 22 December, 2012 If any player crosses Ferguson they get disciplined, all behind closed doors. If they become a problem he moves them on, no matter how good they are. I don't think his methods have changed that much over the years, and is exactly how problems should be sorted. Yep, he said that anyone that crossess him and their career at Man U is over, which is th right thing to do, they players k ow who is boss. he also said quite clearly that his approach has softed over the years and the 'hair dryer' wouldn't be effective with today's players. Also went onto say they are a lot softer than players were when he first managed. Harvard University have done a study on him which I read about recently, it was very interesting and he is an excellent man manager and has a very human side underneath the front.
pingwing Posted 22 December, 2012 Posted 22 December, 2012 I like the Adkins way, seems to be a better way of handling the team and players we have instead of just shouting at them or something similar. It's good he has the ability to ask all of his staff how to improve things and work on them properly.
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 22 December, 2012 Posted 22 December, 2012 Other managers don't ask their team for input? I can't see a lot of Premiership Managets doing it no. Most have so much ego that they wouldn't dream of doing it.
Dig Dig Posted 22 December, 2012 Posted 22 December, 2012 I can't see a lot of Premiership Managets doing it no. Most have so much ego that they wouldn't dream of doing it. So if their supposed ego stops them from listening to the team when going through a bad patch, is that a good or bad thing?
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 22 December, 2012 Posted 22 December, 2012 So if their supposed ego stops them from listening to the team when going through a bad patch, is that a good or bad thing? I'd say it's a bad thing fo' sho'.
Dig Dig Posted 22 December, 2012 Posted 22 December, 2012 I'm glad we agree we are much better off with Adkins than with some of these other egotistical know it all types.
DT Posted 22 December, 2012 Posted 22 December, 2012 Think this is a very mature response. Also canny. Gets the players onside immediately and perhaps creates unity even in the face of criticism from others at the club?
John Boy Saint Posted 22 December, 2012 Posted 22 December, 2012 Shares the "blame" a little and empowers the players a little, while making them more responsible for what goes on once they take to the pitch. Alledgedly the season we finished as runners up in old money Division 1 to Liverpool most of the team talks etc were run by the players Lawrie Mac just steered them in the right direction.
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 22 December, 2012 Posted 22 December, 2012 I'm glad we agree we are much better off with Adkins than with some of these other egotistical know it all types. All subjective though. Would I prefer Allardyce, O'Neill etc no, would I.prefer Ferguson, Benitez etc yes.
Dalek2003 Posted 22 December, 2012 Posted 22 December, 2012 the 'namby pamby' approach only works when things are going well.
david in sweden Posted 24 December, 2012 Author Posted 24 December, 2012 Shares the "blame" a little and empowers the players a little, while making them more responsible for what goes on once they take to the pitch. Alledgedly the season we finished as runners up in old money Division 1 to Liverpool most of the team talks etc were run by the players Lawrie Mac just steered them in the right direction. mind you at that point in time we had a squad with a couple of hundred international caps and over 1000 games between them....they ought to have known wht they were talking about.
The9 Posted 24 December, 2012 Posted 24 December, 2012 Shares the "blame" a little and empowers the players a little, while making them more responsible for what goes on once they take to the pitch. Alledgedly the season we finished as runners up in old money Division 1 to Liverpool most of the team talks etc were run by the players Lawrie Mac just steered them in the right direction. Has no-one made the link between this policy and two years of being on the bus and moving forward together? Why would we change that now after 2 years of success?
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