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There is an article in the Express where Wenger is asking Theo Walcott to show some loyalty for all they did standing by him as a teenager, dont get me wrong I like Theo and Wenger but what a Hypocritical **** he is !!

 

If Theo really wants to show loyalty he should let his contratc run out and come back to SMS and get stuck in, but there again that is MY idea of loyalty.

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He says on sky that he owes it to Arsenal to sign as he took a gamble on him, I hope he leaves as Theo always looked better for us playing upfront.

 

Never did like Wenger about time he had all his best players leave after RVP, FABREGAS etc.

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Mods.... Dobbo beat me by one minute to this but as he is a registered user and has not put his/her hands in his pocket for the saints on this board you should delete him and stay with me.... Your hero

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Wenger's a ****.

 

He bangs on about other teams (Man City, Barca) talking publicly about his players then in the same week was talking about AOC before he'd signed for them.

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Wenger is a top manager and a great football mind. I doubt if anybody posting all this crap about him would say no if he wanted to come and manage us.

 

Bizarre reasoning!

 

He is of course a good manager but that doesnt make his comments on Walcott correct.

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------------Lambert-------------

Lallana------Ramirez-----Walcott

 

Not that punch deserves to be dropped, but....

 

...does look pretty mouthwatering! Can't see it happening, but crazier things have happened. Such as Carroll being sold for almost £40million. :lol:

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Wenger is a top manager and a great football mind. I doubt if anybody posting all this crap about him would say no if he wanted to come and manage us.

 

Great at winning f*ck all.

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Great at winning f*ck all.

 

Yeah, what a complete loser.

 

Monaco

 

  • Ligue 1: 1987–88
  • Coupe de France: 1990–91

 

Nagoya Grampus

 

  • Emperor's Cup: 1995
  • J-League Super Cup: 1996

 

Arsenal

 

  • FA Premier League: 1997–98, 2001–02, 2003–04
  • FA Cup: 1997–98, 2001–02, 2002–03, 2004–05
  • FA Community Shield: 1998, 1999, 2002, 2004

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Yeah, what a complete loser.

 

Monaco

 

  • Ligue 1: 1987–88
  • Coupe de France: 1990–91

 

Nagoya Grampus

 

  • Emperor's Cup: 1995
  • J-League Super Cup: 1996

 

Arsenal

 

  • FA Premier League: 1997–98, 2001–02, 2003–04
  • FA Cup: 1997–98, 2001–02, 2002–03, 2004–05
  • FA Community Shield: 1998, 1999, 2002, 2004

 

f*ck all in the last 8 years though.

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------------Lambert-------------

Lallana------Ramirez-----Walcott

 

Not that punch deserves to be dropped, but....

 

...does look pretty mouthwatering! Can't see it happening, but crazier things have happened. Such as Carroll being sold for almost £40million. :lol:

So, lets see, Walcott wants to leave Arsenal because he wants to play as a striker. So our fans suggest he would be good on the right (he actually played some of his best games for us on the left). Of course he will come back so that he can continue to play where he does not want to play and probably for less money. Bit like those fans who suggest Mayuka playing on the right of MF or Lee on the left of MF, or like managers who play J-Rod on the left of MF. George Burley is rightly castigated for playing players out of position, or playing Jermaine Wright at all, but it seems he is not the only one who wants to play people in bizarre positions.

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You also said he was great at winning f*ck all. That wasn't quite true as stated either.

 

Is recently. 8 years without winning a thing is not great for a club the size of Arsenal.

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Is recently. 8 years without winning a thing is not great for a club the size of Arsenal.

 

Its not amazing no, but I don't think winning a cup here or there really makes much difference. Arsenal have consistently qualified for the CL (getting to the final once), and their consistency year on year has been amazing. Especially so when they've been up against far richer clubs such as Manchester United, Chelsea and Manchester City. If not winning the league in 8 years against those bohemoths of clubs is derserving of your criticism, then I don't go along with that. And the fact that arsenal haven't sold their soul and operate on an even financial keel is worthy of some praise in my book.

 

Given the complete transformation of the club under Wenger's charge and all the success he has had, and the way he continues to shape the progress of the whole club despite being financially up against it what with having to pay off the new stadium, I think some Arsenal fans should be careful what they wish for. He's a fantastic manager.

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So, lets see, Walcott wants to leave Arsenal because he wants to play as a striker. So our fans suggest he would be good on the right (he actually played some of his best games for us on the left). Of course he will come back so that he can continue to play where he does not want to play and probably for less money. Bit like those fans who suggest Mayuka playing on the right of MF or Lee on the left of MF, or like managers who play J-Rod on the left of MF. George Burley is rightly castigated for playing players out of position, or playing Jermaine Wright at all, but it seems he is not the only one who wants to play people in bizarre positions.

 

He played ALL of his best games for us through the middle, playing him out wide just blunted his effectiveness for us and there were plenty of people harping on at Redknapp for wasting him in midfield for a chunk of the 6 months he was with us...

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Its not amazing no, but I don't think winning a cup here or there really makes much difference.

 

Disagree. Silverwear is what matters and they have won less than Portsmouth in the last 8 years.

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The suggestion of becoming part of saints front 4 wouldn't mean Walcott playing as a right winger but rotating across the front line

Not that I can see him returning but his pace with the through balls of Lallana & Gaston & knock downs from Lambert would be amazing & would see loads of goals

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Disagree. Silverwear is what matters and they have won less than Portsmouth in the last 8 years.

 

So by that reckoning Alex Mcleish is a better manager in the past 8 years than Arsene Wenger. Ok then.

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So, lets see, Walcott wants to leave Arsenal because he wants to play as a striker. So our fans suggest he would be good on the right (he actually played some of his best games for us on the left). Of course he will come back so that he can continue to play where he does not want to play and probably for less money. Bit like those fans who suggest Mayuka playing on the right of MF or Lee on the left of MF, or like managers who play J-Rod on the left of MF. George Burley is rightly castigated for playing players out of position, or playing Jermaine Wright at all, but it seems he is not the only one who wants to play people in bizarre positions.

 

I can't see how playing Walcott in RWF is playing him out of position. Never the less he'd play up front in a 4-4-2.

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I think walcott is being wrongly advised by hid dad yet again. I believe money is the motivation not his playing career. He has never blossom into the player i thought he was going to be when at saints, his career is very much stop start affair, so inconsistent

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Arsene Wenger only ever sees it his way. If it is something wrong, he didn't see it. Has no trouble talking about and unsettleing players he wants but bleats when it happens to him. Technically a great manager but otherwise a complete knob. Luke Shaw anybody:facepalm:

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I think walcott is being wrongly advised by hid dad yet again. I believe money is the motivation not his playing career. He has never blossom into the player i thought he was going to be when at saints, his career is very much stop start affair, so inconsistent

 

Hence why he wants to go to a side where he'll get a regular game as a centre-forward. Not sure it's all about money.

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I agree 100% with Kraken on this, I might also go as far as suggesting anyone that doesn't think Wenger has massively overachieved at Arsenal (inc the last 8 years) does not have the best interests of football at heart. The bloke takes massive stick, gets written off again and again, and because he famously only cares about Arsenal and not fellow managers, PR etc he gets no help at all from the media or other Managers. Yet still creates unquestionably the most attractive playing football team in the Prem for the last 10 years, qualifying for the KO stages of the CL without fail with some massive results on the way, all doing it on a (relative) shoestring. This brings me to my original point, as football supporters we need to recognise there are 3 ways to success. 1- Smash loads of oil/ gas/ sovereign wealth money and pay whatever to whoever wether you play them or not. 2- Get into huge debt by levering the clubs assets against loans, ala United/ Liverpool. 3- Try and play a mixture of young players developed to play a certain way and reluctantly accept you have to sell developed players to fund more potential, ala Arsenal.

 

For the good of the game, and for how for clubs like ours, football supporters should be grateful to Wenger and hope Arsenal succeed to give us hope long term. The same goes for the Bundeslega clubs and their growth, a great model to emulate.

 

On a side note I hope we smash em on New Year's Day but I'll salute Theo, grown to be one of Europes top players with important goals at every level. He left for the right reasons IMO (the same reasons he'll stay at Arsenal and not chase the money and go to City, Chelsea, PSG or any other huge club that disagree with the angry idiots on here that suggest his career "stalled" at Arsenal), I remember the hope he gave us in a horrible period at SFC. Top lad and top player IMO.

 

Anyway I'm off to town to get ****ed up... Up the Saints!

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I agree 100% with Kraken on this, I might also go as far as suggesting anyone that doesn't think Wenger has massively overachieved at Arsenal (inc the last 8 years) does not have the best interests of football at heart. The bloke takes massive stick, gets written off again and again, and because he famously only cares about Arsenal and not fellow managers, PR etc he gets no help at all from the media or other Managers. Yet still creates unquestionably the most attractive playing football team in the Prem for the last 10 years, qualifying for the KO stages of the CL without fail with some massive results on the way, all doing it on a (relative) shoestring. This brings me to my original point, as football supporters we need to recognise there are 3 ways to success. 1- Smash loads of oil/ gas/ sovereign wealth money and pay whatever to whoever wether you play them or not. 2- Get into huge debt by levering the clubs assets against loans, ala United/ Liverpool. 3- Try and play a mixture of young players developed to play a certain way and reluctantly accept you have to sell developed players to fund more potential, ala Arsenal.

 

For the good of the game, and for how for clubs like ours, football supporters should be grateful to Wenger and hope Arsenal succeed to give us hope long term. The same goes for the Bundeslega clubs and their growth, a great model to emulate.

 

On a side note I hope we smash em on New Year's Day but I'll salute Theo, grown to be one of Europes top players with important goals at every level. He left for the right reasons IMO (the same reasons he'll stay at Arsenal and not chase the money and go to City, Chelsea, PSG or any other huge club that disagree with the angry idiots on here that suggest his career "stalled" at Arsenal), I remember the hope he gave us in a horrible period at SFC. Top lad and top player IMO.

 

Anyway I'm off to town to get ****ed up... Up the Saints!

 

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I'm a big fan of Arsene Wenger, think he's brilliant. He has superb knowledge of players and using it to buy cheap (relatively) and get the most out of them.

 

He has had a few misses in the transfer market but IMO no-one has as good a record as him at getting a gem of a player before he gets too expensive.

 

I also applaud Arsenal's stance of not giving into greedy players.

 

If all clubs copied them then we'd get more realistic salaries and (maybe) lower ticket prices. Wanting £100k p.w. is completely obscene.

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