saintdaz Posted 20 December, 2012 Posted 20 December, 2012 i'm surprised a thread is not already on here, considering he's not been offered a new contract with the vultures ready to swoop in january. Or could it be that the club have something in the pipeline to offer him in the next few weeks which has yet to be leaked to the press?
Dig Dig Posted 20 December, 2012 Posted 20 December, 2012 Adkins confirmed that he would be offered a new contract to sign on his 18th Birthday, the same as JWP I believe and the club are confident that he will sign.
saintdaz Posted 20 December, 2012 Author Posted 20 December, 2012 i'm keeping my fingers crossed that his heads not turned by the lure of big money in January
Saint Garrett Posted 20 December, 2012 Posted 20 December, 2012 Not a lot to say on the matter really. If the club have said he'll be offered a contract on his 18th birthday then we have a lot of indecision until then. Wouldn't be surprised if a few of the bigger boys bid for him in January, but if this is the clubs way of doing things then we've just got to hope that he is going to sign. They must be hugely confident that he's going to sign, or surely they would have got him tied down.
Dig Dig Posted 20 December, 2012 Posted 20 December, 2012 i'm keeping my fingers crossed that his heads not turned by the lure of big money in January Hopefully he's loving being first choice left back and getting premier league games. Having said that, we should still be in the market for a LB who can compete with Shaw who is more experienced.
Doctoroncall Posted 20 December, 2012 Posted 20 December, 2012 The club have to wait for his 18th birthday before offering a longer contract than he has now.
LostBoys Posted 20 December, 2012 Posted 20 December, 2012 I believe it was reported on here that he signed a pre-contract when he was 17 ready for when he is offered a full contract at 18. Same as Ward-Prowse but he is younger
Saint_clark Posted 20 December, 2012 Posted 20 December, 2012 I believe it was reported on here that he signed a pre-contract when he was 17 ready for when he is offered a full contract at 18. Same as Ward-Prowse but he is younger Full-time contracts can be signed at 17.
Saint Garrett Posted 20 December, 2012 Posted 20 December, 2012 Think you can sign a pro contract when youre 17 but only for 3 years. Proper contracts can be signed from 18 as far as i know.
Saint Charlie Posted 20 December, 2012 Posted 20 December, 2012 He has a pro contract - 3 years. He will get offered another when he is 18.
Window Cleaner Posted 20 December, 2012 Posted 20 December, 2012 Anyone know when he's 18 then? 12th July
Saint Charlie Posted 20 December, 2012 Posted 20 December, 2012 Shaw is a young player, with an adolescent and not fully developed skeletal body. Some advice for him would be to think very carefully whether he wants to be playing every week in the pressure, high tempo Premier league, or whether he would be better taking a year or two off football to prolong his career at the top level. If he took a sabatical and then came back to Saints in 2014 I reckon it could give him another 3 or 4 years at the top level later in his career in his late 20's, early 30's (where he would be a better play and at his peak). if Michael Owen had done this he would still be a regular starter for a Champions League team now- although may not have scored that goal vs Argentina. I wonder which he would prefer.
Saint Garrett Posted 20 December, 2012 Posted 20 December, 2012 Shaw is a young player, with an adolescent and not fully developed skeletal body. Some advice for him would be to think very carefully whether he wants to be playing every week in the pressure, high tempo Premier league, or whether he would be better taking a year or two off football to prolong his career at the top level. If he took a sabatical and then came back to Saints in 2014 I reckon it could give him another 3 or 4 years at the top level later in his career in his late 20's, early 30's (where he would be a better play and at his peak). if Michael Owen had done this he would still be a regular starter for a Champions League team now- although may not have scored that goal vs Argentina. I wonder which he would prefer. I don't understand what or who you're getting at ?!
Saint Charlie Posted 20 December, 2012 Posted 20 December, 2012 I don't understand what or who you're getting at ?! Not getting at anyone. He is young and playing a lot of games in the most demanding physical league there is. He got cramp every match until the last couple. For his sake might any deal include a sabatical where he trains but doesnt play for say 2 years, which might then prolong his career beyond that?
Tokyo-Saint Posted 20 December, 2012 Posted 20 December, 2012 It doesn't always work out like that, Ryan Giggs and Beckham played from an early age and pretty regularly by man utd but Joe Cole was developed slowly by West Ham to protect him. I would say cole is pretty near the scrap heap at a much younger age than the other 2. I think a lot of factors come into play.
Saint Garrett Posted 20 December, 2012 Posted 20 December, 2012 Not getting at anyone. He is young and playing a lot of games in the most demanding physical league there is. He got cramp every match until the last couple. For his sake might any deal include a sabatical where he trains but doesnt play for say 2 years, which might then prolong his career beyond that? Right ok, very odd post.
Dig Dig Posted 20 December, 2012 Posted 20 December, 2012 As long as he eats a cup of moong beans everyday his young skeletal body will be fine.
Saint Charlie Posted 20 December, 2012 Posted 20 December, 2012 It doesn't always work out like that, Ryan Giggs and Beckham played from an early age and pretty regularly by man utd but Joe Cole was developed slowly by West Ham to protect him. I would say cole is pretty near the scrap heap at a much younger age than the other 2. I think a lot of factors come into play. True - it probably doesnt matter for us because in 3 years he won't be here and it will be someone else's problem - but in an ideal world if you were his advisors would you actually want him playing every week this young?
Saint Garrett Posted 20 December, 2012 Posted 20 December, 2012 Yes, what is better than regular first team football for his career!?
Saint Charlie Posted 20 December, 2012 Posted 20 December, 2012 as long as he eats a cup of moong beans everyday his young skeletal body will be fine. wtf?
Saint Charlie Posted 20 December, 2012 Posted 20 December, 2012 Yes, what is better than regular first team football for his career!? Playing some first team football as a second choice LB at a top club being paid lots more before becoming a first choice aged 21 or 22? Look at Owen, Wilshere, Walcott etc - all played loads of games as a very young teenager and all plagued with injury problems.
Dig Dig Posted 20 December, 2012 Posted 20 December, 2012 wtf? Packed full of complete protein and one of the only beans with all 7 essential amino acids. Perfect to aid his growth and recovery.
Tokyo-Saint Posted 20 December, 2012 Posted 20 December, 2012 True - it probably doesnt matter for us because in 3 years he won't be here and it will be someone else's problem - but in an ideal world if you were his advisors would you actually want him playing every week this young? Every week, yes - 3 times a week no. I would want him developed but cared for, like a little beautiful flower on a hill side.
Tokyo-Saint Posted 20 December, 2012 Posted 20 December, 2012 Packed full of complete protein and one of the only beans with all 7 essential amino acids. Perfect to aid his growth and recovery. Sounds good but I find the name offensive, any way you could change it?
Tokyo-Saint Posted 20 December, 2012 Posted 20 December, 2012 Playing some first team football as a second choice LB at a top club being paid lots more before becoming a first choice aged 21 or 22? Look at Owen, Wilshere, Walcott etc - all played loads of games as a very young teenager and all plagued with injury problems. Sprinters always peek early and get injury problems later on, usually with their knees and hamstrings. Wiltshire's injury was as much to do with his lifestyle as anything else, he has been a bit of a troubled boy. I think he will develop a lot better than the sprinter types with age.
Dig Dig Posted 20 December, 2012 Posted 20 December, 2012 Sounds good but I find the name offensive, any way you could change it? Good point, someone out there may find it offensive so I shouldn't even risk it. I will call them "inclusive" beans instead.
Saint Charlie Posted 20 December, 2012 Posted 20 December, 2012 Good point, someone out there may find it offensive so I shouldn't even risk it. I will call them "inclusive" beans instead. Do you actually mean Mung Beans? http://www.channel4.com/entertainment/tv/microsites/Y/yawye/mungbeans.html
Saint Charlie Posted 20 December, 2012 Posted 20 December, 2012 Somehow can't see some magic beans helping to prolong Shaw's career. A sabatical might.
Dig Dig Posted 20 December, 2012 Posted 20 December, 2012 Don't underestimate the power of the inclusive bean.
Tokyo-Saint Posted 20 December, 2012 Posted 20 December, 2012 Maybe we should send him backpacking in Thailand? Discover himself...
Dig Dig Posted 20 December, 2012 Posted 20 December, 2012 Maybe we should send him backpacking in Thailand? Discover himself... Send him to uni to study business and marketing with camp america in the summer.
Saint Charlie Posted 20 December, 2012 Posted 20 December, 2012 He would be better doing full time training as normal, but without the pressure of matches which would allow his skeletal body to develop to deal with the rigours of a long career. Unpopular message but true.
LostBoys Posted 20 December, 2012 Posted 20 December, 2012 I think the issue is making sure he does not burn out and so he will probably be pulled for a short while in January 2013 and then brought back in
revolution saint Posted 20 December, 2012 Posted 20 December, 2012 He would be better doing full time training as normal, but without the pressure of matches which would allow his skeletal body to develop to deal with the rigours of a long career. Unpopular message but true. I think your presumption is pretty much wrong - sure you have to ease kids in but you're suggesting not actually playing competitive football for 2 years?
SFC Forever Posted 20 December, 2012 Posted 20 December, 2012 Mung Beans are excellent for us all and are also known as Green Moong bean, Moong Dhall
Saint Charlie Posted 21 December, 2012 Posted 21 December, 2012 Mung Beans are excellent for us all and are also known as Green Moong bean, Moong Dhall You sound like a Professor of the Moong. Having researched them it seems you are correct. I will be ordering a hefty supply of Moong Dhall!
Colbury Posted 21 December, 2012 Posted 21 December, 2012 Not getting at anyone. He is young and playing a lot of games in the most demanding physical league there is. He got cramp every match until the last couple. For his sake might any deal include a sabatical where he trains but doesnt play for say 2 years, which might then prolong his career beyond that? What a load of boll*cks.
david in sweden Posted 22 December, 2012 Posted 22 December, 2012 i'm surprised a thread is not already on here, considering he's not been offered a new contract with the vultures ready to swoop in january. Or could it be that the club have something in the pipeline to offer him in the next few weeks which has yet to be leaked to the press? the most ridiculous thing about this entire saga....... is the amount being quoted in the tabloids. Considering that Walcott and Bale went for £10-12 million each, and the Alex OC deal was worth a potential £15 million (?)....why on Earth would we sell Shaw for a paltry £4 million?. Pretty tawdry journalism - even if it were true.
Dalek2003 Posted 22 December, 2012 Posted 22 December, 2012 Some people fought in the tenches at 17 and the lucky ones that did survive often lived to a good age.
derry Posted 22 December, 2012 Posted 22 December, 2012 My wife's grandfather did four years at the front in WW1, worked in the docks until 70, chainsmoked into his sixties and lived to 90. Not exactly an ideal lifestyle but he was active until the day he died. Must have done something right.
Wade Garrett Posted 22 December, 2012 Posted 22 December, 2012 My Grandad drunk every day, 6 pints and a bottle of whiskey, and chain smoked. Didn't do him any harm. He led a very full life in his 25 years. ............I'll get my coat.
Window Cleaner Posted 22 December, 2012 Posted 22 December, 2012 My wife's grandfather did four years at the front in WW1, worked in the docks until 70, chainsmoked into his sixties and lived to 90. Not exactly an ideal lifestyle but he was active until the day he died. Must have done something right. most of that generation didn't have to worry about whether they'd have a job next week or whether the mortgage rate would go up or down.Few did a 150 mile round trip every day either. Life was less stressful, wouldn't think stress kills as many as smoking but it certainly doesn't help.
buctootim Posted 22 December, 2012 Posted 22 December, 2012 What a load of boll*cks. Thanks Sherlock. Young adults who havent finished growing / developing run the risk of long term injuries if they overtrain. Arsenal basically accused Saints of this after the signed Walcott and he had a bad run of injuries. I'd imagine things are different now we have more money, better sports science and arent battling relegation
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