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KelvinsRightGlove

KelvinsRightGlove

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http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/4706230/Jason-Puncheon-on-West-Hams-radar.html

 

"WEST HAM are lining up a £2million January bid for Saints’ Jason Puncheon, 26.

 

The winger’s deal expires this season and fresh terms are yet to be offered.

 

Newcastle are also keeping tabs."

 

 

Cant see this happening and for only 2 million? BFS is a mug.

 

It's one of those 'hard to judge' scenarios, especially with his deal being up in the summer.

 

We'll probably never know entirely what the situation is behind the scenes regarding his relation to the club.

 

Is £2m that bad for someone that may potentially walk away for nothing a few months later?

 

Out of interest, I forget what we paid for the guy? Was it a few hundred k? Wouldn't be the worst piece of business ever if it did happen, not that I am saying I would like this to be the case.

sammysaint

sammysaint

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Personally think hes the same quality as Jarvis, both players either have really good games or really poor ones, WH paid 12 mill for Jarvis though so cant see punch getting in above him, as for there other side they play Ve Taz whos a powerful striker and with there hoof ball game they want someone to win the ball vs the full backs in the air, and punch wont do it that often.

egg

egg

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If we haven't tried to tie him down then we shouldn't be surprised if he takes money on offer from elsewhere. He needs security and if we ain't offering then someone else will.

 

My gut feel is that he would only commit to us if staying up looks likely. Currently it's very much in the balance.

 

This could happen but for the sake of 2m I'd keep him. He will know that he's in a stronger position in the summer and we'll have the use of one our better players.

CB Saint

CB Saint

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Gods knows what will happen here. I would keep him until the summer definitely, deal or no deal.

 

Will a deal be signed?, maybe too much water has passed under the bridge for all parties to come to the table again. Maybe jp change in for is due to him trying to secure a move elsewhere. Maybe NC is being inflexible. Maybe jp' s view on what his wages should be are somewhat optimistic.

Sour Mash

Sour Mash

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If we havent its probably because he has indicated that after all thats happened he would like to make a fresh start elsewhere. You couldnt blame him.
Why? What's happened to him at Saints?
Bucks Saint

Bucks Saint

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A first team regular who is scoring for fun and being very effective. And a player who has not set the world alight anywhere else. Yeah of course we have not offered him terms. FFS the club does not publicise contract talks.

eurosaint

eurosaint

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If his contract runs out in the summer and WHU are prepared to pay £2mil then I can see it happening !

Basically it will be up to the player himself as SFC have few options other than to offer him extra big money !!

Turkish

Turkish

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http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/4706230/Jason-Puncheon-on-West-Hams-radar.html

 

"WEST HAM are lining up a £2million January bid for Saints’ Jason Puncheon, 26.

 

The winger’s deal expires this season and fresh terms are yet to be offered.

 

Newcastle are also keeping tabs."

 

 

Cant see this happening and for only 2 million? BFS is a mug.

 

Only £2 million? He's only got 6 months left on his contract. I'd say we'd be lucky to get that.

charliegeorgesflymo

charliegeorgesflymo

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It's probably me being paranoid but feel that this is part of Big Sam's tactics to unsettle opposition players - I'm sure he used to do this when he was at Bolton and Newcastle. Given that, I would imagine WHU will be there or there abouts with Saints at the end of the season - he probably sees us as a threat.

Soton7

Soton7

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Considering we were trying to offload him for £1m for the past 2 years we will be fortunate to get £2m in January. From his perspective if he holds out until the summer, he will get an increase in wages, a signing on fee, move to a bigger club and moving back to London which is a win win situation for him.

Saint Garrett

Saint Garrett

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Personally think hes the same quality as Jarvis, both players either have really good games or really poor ones, WH paid 12 mill for Jarvis though so cant see punch getting in above him, as for there other side they play Ve Taz whos a powerful striker and with there hoof ball game they want someone to win the ball vs the full backs in the air, and punch wont do it that often.

 

You say that but I'd say that Punch is actually very good at bringing the ball down. He is very strong and doesn't really get pushed off the ball. Quite a few times I've seen him get in front of his man and hold him off bringing the ball under control.

Turkish

Turkish

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IMO Puncheon is a bit of a flat track bully. When we are on top and playing well, he plays well. I cant remember too many times when we've played badly and he has had a good game.

beancounter saint

beancounter saint

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IMO Puncheon is a bit of a flat track bully. When we are on top and playing well, he plays well. I cant remember too many times when we've played badly and he has had a good game.

 

Interesting take on cause and effect. If you ask me you could say that about almost any player.

 

What the other poster said about Puncheon's strength is true IMHO. He very rarely gets pushed off the ball.

Lambert1979

Lambert1979

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IMO Puncheon is a bit of a flat track bully. When we are on top and playing well, he plays well. I cant remember too many times when we've played badly and he has had a good game.

 

I'm a bit like that with lallana

JackanorySFC

JackanorySFC

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I'm a bit like that with lallana

 

Disagree personally, Lallana usually stands out even in poor team performances, mainly because his 1st touch is unbelievably good and he rarely has a game where he doesn't put a shift in. A key reason why he was made captain imo. Admittedly there were a few games last season where we dropped points because he missed chances, but he certainly didn't go missing in those games, something JP does now and again.....

shurlock

shurlock

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The flat track bully argument is b******* - chicken and egg and all that. What I will say is that Punch is frustratingly inconsistent and is a streaky player. On the other hand, he usually rises to the occasion against the big teams.

Frank's cousin

Frank's cousin

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If true I wonder why we haven't offered terms?

 

Thing is FF, (and this is pure speculation based on no evidence whatsoever), what is to say we have not, and that a new deal is simply being negotiated in private, what with JP and NC being good budies again - no one knows what was pssed between them other than the result was they made up.

 

JP has been many things, oft painted the vilain, oft in recent times the hero (and deservedly so) - but thing that sticks out for me is that after whatever 'clear the air' talks took place, he has been a revelation this season. It might be as simple as someone actually taking teh time to sit with him and talk through his needs, issues etc - some players need that more than a 'boot in the baws' (as they say up here) and maybe no one had done that before - maybe he just matured, who knows, but something was done that worked.

 

I would hope that he will get a new deal soon and will continue to show the quality he has in earning it. He has shown great character and maturity in acknowledging his mistakes and working hard to prove his worth and quality - I admire him for that and hope that he recognizes how the club have helped him get to where he is now, even if it took a fair bit of public handbags to get there - the end result is what matters.

del boy

del boy

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Thing is FF, (and this is pure speculation based on no evidence whatsoever), what is to say we have not, and that a new deal is simply being negotiated in private, what with JP and NC being good budies again - no one knows what was pssed between them other than the result was they made up.

 

JP has been many things, oft painted the vilain, oft in recent times the hero (and deservedly so) - but thing that sticks out for me is that after whatever 'clear the air' talks took place, he has been a revelation this season. It might be as simple as someone actually taking teh time to sit with him and talk through his needs, issues etc - some players need that more than a 'boot in the baws' (as they say up here) and maybe no one had done that before - maybe he just matured, who knows, but something was done that worked.

 

I would hope that he will get a new deal soon and will continue to show the quality he has in earning it. He has shown great character and maturity in acknowledging his mistakes and working hard to prove his worth and quality - I admire him for that and hope that he recognizes how the club have helped him get to where he is now, even if it took a fair bit of public handbags to get there - the end result is what matters.

 

good post

SNSUN

SNSUN

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There's no doubt he's come on leaps and bounds as a footballer, he's still not the complete winger we need long term though, and he's reaching his peak age. If we can get a couple of million for him, and go out and sign someone even better, then that's good business. On his current form he's worth more to us than £2 million, although not with his contract so close to expiry. Even though Punch has made amends with Cortese, would he rather be at another club where he doesn't have to see him?

 

If he can maintain his good form, I do hope he signs a new contract. Will we put in another bid for Matt Phillips though?

pingwing

pingwing

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I'd take a couple of million for him, no way we can give him a big/long contract as he's just too inconsistent. Some weeks he's a world beater and some weeks he can maybe put one in but waste 5-10 more chances by ending up as the last man there and having such poor finishing/composure.

 

I am sure we can get someone better in who probably wont command stupid wages anyway so it's not really the end of the world if he does go.

Bearsy

Bearsy

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I never thought i was intractable but I feel like I've already made my mind up with punch, and no matter how well he plays deep down in my dark bear soul I'll always think he's sh!t. I vote for the sell. £2m sounds like good cheddar!

Saint_clark

Saint_clark

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The salute to the Northam after he scored V Reading looked almost like a big two fingers to the fans that had previously booed him. I don't think he wants to resign.

(Yes, I'm aware this is all speculation).

UpweySaint

UpweySaint

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Agree with most of the sentiment on here. No point taking two mil for him now when we he plays such a key role for us. If he has to leave i'd rather it be in the close season when we can bring in a proper replacement and get them blended into the side.

Thedelldays

Thedelldays

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I'd take a couple of million for him, no way we can give him a big/long contract as he's just too inconsistent. Some weeks he's a world beater and some weeks he can maybe put one in but waste 5-10 more chances by ending up as the last man there and having such poor finishing/composure.

 

I am sure we can get someone better in who probably wont command stupid wages anyway so it's not really the end of the world if he does go.

 

You could say that about all our players

JP has easily been of the best players all season for us.... And to replace what he brings would cost a great deal more than £2m

pingwing

pingwing

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You could say that about all our players

JP has easily been of the best players all season for us.... And to replace what he brings would cost a great deal more than £2m

 

5 games = all season now? He was world class against United (partly because Evra was doing a Danny Fox on where the lb should be playing), great against QPR (where everyone stood off him second half and was in the right place for the first), good against Swansea, good against Newcastle and really good against Reading (plus scored that screamer against Stevenage but did nothing else).

 

 

He was terrible against City (fluffed an open goal and another big chance), played around against Villa for the first goal (though did get a goal so can go on the alright pile), was subbed for being so useless against West Ham, not really involved against Spurs either and Fulham had his entire game plan sorted within about 2 mins of that game.

 

He has some great moments but also has some dreadful moments when defenders press him and force him out wide. Should just take the money and run as I doubt he will accept a reasonable contract extension and we can just put a sensible bit of extra money towards a replacement. It's not like we are Everton and have to sell to buy new players in... (just have to make the space in the squad)

SuperMikey

SuperMikey

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Punch is an enigma. When he made that outburst on Twitter I was fuming. Even if you're unhappy at a club, it's so unprofessional to make those kinds of statements in the public domain, especially for someone who sees himself as a Premier League footballer. I do worry that the volatile aspect of his personality is still there and we have some kind of grace period now, but the fact of the matter is that he's been excellent for us this season. I would be disappointed to see him leave next month, but ultimately if someone's going to offer £2m for a player who's out of contract in the summer then it's understandable.

david in sweden

david in sweden

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http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/4706230/Jason-Puncheon-on-West-Hams-radar.html

 

"WEST HAM are lining up a £2million January bid for Saints’ Jason Puncheon, 26. The winger’s deal expires this season and fresh terms are yet to be offered. Newcastle are also keeping tabs."

Cant see this happening and for only 2 million? BFS is a mug.

 

 

 

Mmm...which of his boot-laces are they bidding for ...?

Chez

Chez

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Agent leaked story to get interest from either Saints or other clubs. All this tells us is that he hasn't go a deal lined up yet.

 

He's had a good season so far. I'd suggest he'd win player of the season if it ended now. I wonder how much he wants in wages. I suspect a million quid up front for starters (half of this £2m) and three years on I don't know how much.

 

Difficult decision for the club considering the issues they have had. Very hard to forget when you are about t hand the player a kings ransom.

Window Cleaner

Window Cleaner

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Agent leaked story to get interest from either Saints or other clubs. All this tells us is that he hasn't go a deal lined up yet.

 

He's had a good season so far. I'd suggest he'd win player of the season if it ended now. I wonder how much he wants in wages. I suspect a million quid up front for starters (half of this £2m) and three years on I don't know how much.

 

Difficult decision for the club considering the issues they have had. Very hard to forget when you are about t hand the player a kings ransom.

 

not sure that Puncheon has an agent per se at this moment.

Latheal

Latheal

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Is BFS attempting to buy our forward line? Is that now Lambert and Punch they are rumoured in?

 

Looks like unsettling tactics to me, I still think West Ham will drop like a stone second half of this season. They are one of the worst teams I've seen and have a horrendus injury list. There is no way Punch will go in Jan, if he wants to go on a free in the Summer I wouldn't be surprised. It's his last big move at his age so understandable if he wants to look for a big payday. Having said that, don't think it's cut and dried that he will go.

 

Can somebody also shed some light on where they are getting their money from? I thought they were 100mil+ in debt last season and all they have done is spent ****loads and offered players ridiculous contracts again.

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