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Saint Garrett

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They are so bad it must be embarrassing though, I almost feel sorry for them, then I think about what a crap club they are with dreadful fans, and then I'm really not bothered. They're a league 1 size team, who have had quite a bit of money spent in the last few years and a stadium Built, they've got no history and loads of their fans seem to be people who go to watch the opposition. (Quite funny when Walcott scored- there was a girl behind the goal, with a big smile on her face clapping) embarrassing. Only positive for them is they should keep the majority of their squad together next season due to the fact they're that bad.

The Kraken

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We have Arsenal at home soon, it will be a good marker to see how much we have improved since that 6-1 drubbing at the Emirates.

 

If we can manage to only score one own goal it'll show some progress has definitely been made.

ericofarabia

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If we can manage to only score one own goal it'll show some progress has definitely been made.

 

I just knew that bringing on Jos in the 6th minute of added time was a mistake. 6-0 would have looked so much better than 6-1 !!

pingwing

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From their starting XI last night I actually don't think a single player would get in our lineup, and thats not an overeaction or bias.

 

I was thinking that after we played them on the train home. Even if Pogrebnyak was on the bench I still don't think any player of theirs would really push for a place. Puts into context how much of a smash and grab they did last season and how much better our transfer window was.

KelvinsRightGlove

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I might be wrong on this, but wern't some posters pointing to Reading as being more successful than us in the window?

 

Mainly due to this (naive & unrealistic) obsession many seem to have that unless all our dealings are done by July 1st, the window is an abject failure.

The9

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I think Pogrebnyak would suit our style a lot better than theirs (apart from anything he might see the ball occasionally). I actually think he's a very decent player and hoped we'd have signed him, but something's just not clicking for him there. Maybe he has Saganowskitis.

The Kraken

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I might be wrong on this, but wern't some posters pointing to Reading as being more successful than us in the window?

Mainly due to this (naive & unrealistic) obsession many seem to have that unless all our dealings are done by July 1st, the window is an abject failure.

 

Not sure it was that. But there was certainly some commentary that they got their transfers completed early in the summer. In terms of the actual signings made; a lot of them were like for like with ours, really.

KelvinsRightGlove

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Not sure it was that. But there was certainly some commentary that they got their transfers completed early in the summer. In terms of the actual signings made; a lot of them were like for like with ours, really.

 

Ok yeah, it may have been that.

 

I certainly recall a few making noise about our lack of ambition in not going for Pogrebnyak though.

The Kraken

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Ok yeah, it may have been that.

 

I certainly recall a few making noise about our lack of ambition in not going for Pogrebnyak though.

 

Not a lack of ambition; we were never going to go for him once we'd decided to go for Rodriguez.

 

I'd still have Pogrebnyak over Rodriguez in a heartbeat.

KelvinsRightGlove

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Not a lack of ambition; we were never going to go for him once we'd decided to go for Rodriguez.

 

I'd still have Pogrebnyak over Rodriguez in a heartbeat.

 

Really?

 

Bit surprised on that, but that's your opinion and a fair one. I'm happy we plumped with J-Rod personally.

 

Probably harsh to judge either on this season. Doesn't really seem like either have had a fair crack to show what they are capable of.

 

My impression of Pog, was that he had Saganowski/Cisse syndrome. Come in in Jan, few good performances then die off. Only Pog seemed to only do this for about 5/6 weeks.

Thedelldays

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Really?

 

Bit surprised on that, but that's your opinion and a fair one. I'm happy we plumped with J-Rod personally.

 

Probably harsh to judge either on this season. Doesn't really seem like either have had a fair crack to show what they are capable of.

 

My impression of Pog, was that he had Saganowski/Cisse syndrome. Come in in Jan, few good performances then die off. Only Pog seemed to only do this for about 5/6 weeks.

 

which is more than j-rod so far

The Kraken

The Kraken

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Really?

 

Bit surprised on that, but that's your opinion and a fair one. I'm happy we plumped with J-Rod personally.

 

Probably harsh to judge either on this season. Doesn't really seem like either have had a fair crack to show what they are capable of.

 

My impression of Pog, was that he had Saganowski/Cisse syndrome. Come in in Jan, few good performances then die off. Only Pog seemed to only do this for about 5/6 weeks.

 

Actually, that's all I am judging on in the case of JRod. I've explained this to others before so I'll apologise for the repeat; but I think for this season only that £7M on JRod could have been spent much better elsewhere. Is he worth that type of money? In this market, probably, and I know for a fact that we had to outbid at least one other club who bid a similar amount in order to get him. My "problem" with him is that he's one for the future, when particularly this season we need one for now. If RL (God forbid) gets injured then I can't envisage a football team we could put out that is good enough without him. He also has no real competition for his place; or IMO a genuine option to go 442 and play a second striker alongside him.

 

Next season (if we stay up) and beyond I would thoroughly welcome such a long-term approach to signings; and by then Rodrigiez might hopefully have developed such that he is worthy of a starting spot. Until then I think it was the wrong gamble.

Thedelldays

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True, but @ Fulham Pog came in and was immediately the focus of the sides attacking intent, and got a solid run in the side.

 

Something which has yet to be afforded to J-rod in the same manner.

why hasnt it..? are we going to have to change the way we play next season to fit him in...?

why cant he adapt...?

The9

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why hasnt it..? are we going to have to change the way we play next season to fit him in...?

why cant he adapt...?

 

He probably can, but why would he choose to become a big lunk who doesn't run ? :D

Saint_clark

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why hasnt it..? are we going to have to change the way we play next season to fit him in...?

why cant he adapt...?

 

He can, and I believe has - which is why he's looked better the last few times he's played than earlier in the season.

Saint Garrett

Saint Garrett

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why hasnt it..? are we going to have to change the way we play next season to fit him in...?

why cant he adapt...?

 

He can and has unless you think he was better at the start of the season that he has done recently. Fact is that Lambert is better than him and we play one up front...

The Kraken

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He can, and I believe has - which is why he's looked better the last few times he's played than earlier in the season.

 

Really? I thought he was all sorts of average against Reading. Shooting off target, not able to effectively hold the ball up, although he ran the channels fairly well. Certainly didn't do anything to suggest he was previously one of the Championship's top strikers, IMO our victory was very much despite him rather than because of him.

 

And yet I saw some comments on here saying they could now see why we've paid £7M for him. Fair enough, but I just can't go along with that.

Appy

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dunno....reading fans are just utterly baffled at their managers selections lately...

 

McDermott just looks so out of his depth, some of his interviews just look so desperate.

Saint Garrett

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Pog is definitely their best forward, but he can't do it all on their own. They've got a championship midfield and not a lot of creativity, and also play a pretty rigid 4-4-2 - that doesn't work in this league as the game ends up passing you by as you're totally overun in the midfield.

Appy

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They just haven't improved from last year at all.

 

I remember when they signed Gunter and we signed Clyne I was laughed at by some Reading fans as they had signed a Welsh international.

Thedelldays

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they are just rubbish...went on a great run with more luck than anyone last year..

 

they would regularly go to teams, get over run and win by the odd goal...their game at SMS last season was not a one-off

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Window Cleaner

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I am suprised they keep playing such a rigid 4-4-2.

 

From their starting XI last night I actually don't think a single player would get in our lineup, and thats not an overeaction or bias.

 

 

And yet I remember many chagrinned outpourings when we didn't sign Guthrie last summer, much better than any of our midfielders if I recall correctly.

stevegrant

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They just haven't improved from last year at all.

 

I remember when they signed Gunter and we signed Clyne I was laughed at by some Reading fans as they had signed a Welsh international.

Gunter doesn't even get in the team now, which is a massively damning indictment on his ability when he's being kept on the bench by Shaun Cummings.

Appy

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they are just rubbish...went on a great run with more luck than anyone last year..

 

they would regularly go to teams, get over run and win by the odd goal...their game at SMS last season was not a one-off

 

Absolutely, I remember watching them at Brighton and West Ham last season, how they got 6 points from those games I will never know.

Seaford Saint

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they are just rubbish...went on a great run with more luck than anyone last year..

 

they would regularly go to teams, get over run and win by the odd goal...their game at SMS last season was not a one-off

 

Knowing Reading as I do luck had nothing to do with their run last year.....Unless it was lucky they got us on the break lucky that Kebe outpaced our defence, lucky he provided a pin point cross, lucky that Roberts got to the ball ahead of Fonte and lucky his header was on target.

 

The amount of drivel on this site staggers me sometimes and its no wonder the more reasoned posters just don't bother posting.

 

This year however, Reading have been found out. This may have more to do with financial considerations above all else. They have an excellent Championship midfield which has been made to look poor in the Premiership. An aging Roberts about to turn 35 up front is no longer cutting it. Defensively they have been exposed too.

 

Maybe they will invest in January, maybe they won't....more likely is that they will try and fail to attract players.

Thedelldays

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Knowing Reading as I do luck had nothing to do with their run last year.....Unless it was lucky they got us on the break lucky that Kebe outpaced our defence, lucky he provided a pin point cross, lucky that Roberts got to the ball ahead of Fonte and lucky his header was on target.

 

The amount of drivel on this site staggers me sometimes and its no wonder the more reasoned posters just don't bother posting.

 

This year however, Reading have been found out. This may have more to do with financial considerations above all else. They have an excellent Championship midfield which has been made to look poor in the Premiership. An aging Roberts about to turn 35 up front is no longer cutting it. Defensively they have been exposed too.

 

Maybe they will invest in January, maybe they won't....more likely is that they will try and fail to attract players.

sorry, but it was luck...

The Kraken

The Kraken

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Knowing Reading as I do luck had nothing to do with their run last year.....Unless it was lucky they got us on the break lucky that Kebe outpaced our defence, lucky he provided a pin point cross, lucky that Roberts got to the ball ahead of Fonte and lucky his header was on target.

 

The amount of drivel on this site staggers me sometimes and its no wonder the more reasoned posters just don't bother posting.

 

This year however, Reading have been found out. This may have more to do with financial considerations above all else. They have an excellent Championship midfield which has been made to look poor in the Premiership. An aging Roberts about to turn 35 up front is no longer cutting it. Defensively they have been exposed too.

 

Maybe they will invest in January, maybe they won't....more likely is that they will try and fail to attract players.

 

:lol::lol:

 

Which ones?

Saint Garrett

Saint Garrett

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Wasn't it Fox trying a 60 yard hollywood ball which they scored from?

 

And I wouldn't say it was lucky that they hit us on the break, but it was lucky they managed to score 3 goals on the break, and we only scored 1 of our 20 odd shots on target.

 

Even reading the reading forum before we played them, they fully accepted the fact they 'done a job' on us last season.

Thedelldays

Thedelldays

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Their win over us was because they got lucky when some skate animal or other put Morgan out of the Championship decider especially as Hammond gifted them the match.

brighton away was pure luck

 

dont get me wrong...we had ours....away to leeds, away to millwall...but the amount of times they got battered at walked away with a win was more than normal...leeds at home..burnley at home...west ham away, brighton away, saints away..

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