Horton Heath Saint Posted 17 December, 2012 Share Posted 17 December, 2012 Martin Forte Barnard Seabourne Boruc Butterfield Chaplow Richardson Hammond Sharp Fox Guly Davis Dickson Hoovield Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B Rabbit Posted 17 December, 2012 Share Posted 17 December, 2012 Thanks.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tedmaul Posted 17 December, 2012 Share Posted 17 December, 2012 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYmaJnRbpUg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 17 December, 2012 Share Posted 17 December, 2012 Pretty accurate though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tedmaul Posted 17 December, 2012 Share Posted 17 December, 2012 Yes it's a list of players who have helped us get to top English league and now perhaps are not quite good enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Munster Posted 17 December, 2012 Share Posted 17 December, 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sussexsaint Posted 17 December, 2012 Share Posted 17 December, 2012 Depends if we stay up or not then... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 17 December, 2012 Share Posted 17 December, 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokyo-Saint Posted 17 December, 2012 Share Posted 17 December, 2012 http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?41688-The-pre-apocalypse-countdown-thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AussieDog Posted 17 December, 2012 Share Posted 17 December, 2012 Agree that none of them are 1st 11 starters when we have an injury-free squad but several of them are adequate substitutes. I guess by getting rid of 10 or so (you missed some as well - DeRidder for starters and maybe one or 2 of the development squad possibly) we would free up some of the salary bill. Quality over quantity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 17 December, 2012 Share Posted 17 December, 2012 Depends who we bring in to be fair and whether we stay up. 1 reason why we've not got rid of Sharp/Hammond permamently, is because of the possibility that we might go down IMO. If we bring in 5 players better than what we have in January (not going to happen but...) then we'll probably see quite a few of these moved on. Let's not forget that there has to be someone who wants these players for them to go as they're still in contract. And quite a few of them are probably on a pretty hefty wage compared to their ability... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 17 December, 2012 Share Posted 17 December, 2012 Agree that none of them are 1st 11 starters when we have an injury-free squad but several of them are adequate substitutes. I guess by getting rid of 10 or so (you missed some as well - DeRidder for starters and maybe one or 2 of the development squad possibly) we would free up some of the salary bill. Quality over quantity If you want to be an established Prem side then none of them are really good enough, even for the bench which is why most of them can't even make that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 17 December, 2012 Share Posted 17 December, 2012 Not no future, no, but not first teamers. All can be improved upon, and if we stay in this division, all WILL be improved upon over time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasoneuelllfanclub Posted 17 December, 2012 Share Posted 17 December, 2012 I think the likes of Hooiveld, De Ridder and possible Chaplow will be loaned out in January. Chaplow is out of contract in June so he may well be given a free transfer earlier. I am hopeful NA,NC and LR are actively working on transfers now so we can hit the ground running at the start of January rather than leaving it until end of the window and risk being cut a drift especially if we get injuries to key players which is pretty much the starting 11 based on the lack of quality on the bench and in squad. I would like to see a CB, LB, DM, and Winger (left). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 17 December, 2012 Share Posted 17 December, 2012 Not no future, no, but not first teamers. All can be improved upon, and if we stay in this division, all WILL be improved upon over time. To add to that, should we get relegated this season (touch wood), then that list in the OP will probably form the basis of our Championship team next season! I can see people interested in most of our first teamers if we do go down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old_southy Posted 17 December, 2012 Share Posted 17 December, 2012 --Boruc-- Richardson-Jos-Seabourne-Fox Chaplow-Guly-Hammond-Dickson --Barnard-Sharp-- That's a mid table Championship side. Some players would make good cover so not a real scrap pile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mowgli Posted 17 December, 2012 Share Posted 17 December, 2012 Some people still do not realise that this club expects contracts to be honoured and it works both ways. Plus side - we keep JWP, Shaw and Lallana. Plus side - players more likely to sign for us knowing that we will honour their contracts to the end of the term (unless they see a better chance of regular football elsewhere). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobM Posted 17 December, 2012 Share Posted 17 December, 2012 From that list, I'd keep Martin (for the future, no harm in keeping him another season to see how he grows), Richardson (adequate RB cover), Guly (worth having on the bench, gives options) and Fox (unless we buy two new LB's). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 17 December, 2012 Share Posted 17 December, 2012 (edited) Martin Forte Barnard Seaborne Boruc Butterfield Chaplow Richardson Hammond Sharp Fox Guly Davis Dickson Hooiveld I can see all those in bold being perfectly capable squad players in the Prem for another year or so. The others are going to stay on the payroll until their contracts run out as there's no way any of them will get paid more in the nPC or League One than they are getting now, due to their promotion bonuses. You also left Steve de Ridder off that list - and Tadanari Lee... and Puncheon... Edited 17 December, 2012 by The9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 17 December, 2012 Share Posted 17 December, 2012 If you want to be an established Prem side then none of them are really good enough, even for the bench which is why most of them can't even make that. Most of them could manage a decent Prem run with the right players around them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 17 December, 2012 Share Posted 17 December, 2012 Some people still do not realise that this club expects contracts to be honoured and it works both ways. Plus side - we keep JWP, Shaw and Lallana. Plus side - players more likely to sign for us knowing that we will honour their contracts to the end of the term (unless they see a better chance of regular football elsewhere). All clubs honour contracts until the end of the term - except Portsmouth of course. Why would any player be swayed by the likelihood having a contract honoured ? EVERYONE does it, and all it means is that we're overpaying a lot of people who aren't up to our current standard to do nothing. When players leave before their contract ends it's almost always because they will get more money elsewhere. The only loyalty is to adhering to the law of the land. Hell, even when Wotton agreed to a mutual termination it was so he could get a 18 month deal at Yeovil which paid more than the 6 months left of his Saints contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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