the saint in winchester Posted 16 December, 2012 Posted 16 December, 2012 So, we all saw him on MOTD last night - 3 red card offences missed by the officials. Good on David Moyes for not dodging the bullet with any crap like "I didn't see it". He has apologised. What should happen next? a) Leave it there - he knows he was an idiot. b) He should get a 3 match ban. c) He should get a long ban - 3 red card offences! d) Nothing - Shawcross deserved it. e) Any other comment - write your own. I'm a c) btw. Applaud Moyes for his comments but would have liked to have seen Moyes take him off after the first "challenge" (the headbutt).
Matthew Le God Posted 16 December, 2012 Posted 16 December, 2012 c) He should be punished for each and every offence, which may end up being a 9+ match ban.
Smirking_Saint Posted 16 December, 2012 Posted 16 December, 2012 If its been missed from the refs match report then he will probably be hit with a ban, and I imagine that its been missed as, like you said, he wasnt sent off for it. Shearer was retrospectively banned I believe, others too, I imagine he will be hit with a ban, I missed MOTD last night though.
saints_is_the_south Posted 16 December, 2012 Posted 16 December, 2012 3 red card offences each meriting a 3 match ban, so that's 9. Barton got 12 after his antics at City last season so don't see why Fellaini should be looked at leniently. Just because he and his manager have apologised I don't see why that should make it all better and he shouldn't get punished.
Jack Posted 16 December, 2012 Posted 16 December, 2012 Deserves punishment for 3 counts of violent conduct IMO. 9+ games. Fair play to Shawcross for just getting on with it. *remembers to take Fellaini out of dream team*
Patrick Bateman Posted 16 December, 2012 Posted 16 December, 2012 Okay, I'll offer a different opinion. Watch it, watch it closely. It's NOT a headbutt, it's him forcing his head marginally in to the guy's head and he drops like a sack of sh*t before there's real contact - watch it!! Shawcross was trying to play the game, falling down and looks like a complete woofter. I wouldn't like to see any ban at all.
Thedelldays Posted 16 December, 2012 Posted 16 December, 2012 probably a 3 game ban and a 3 game suspended something
The Kraken Posted 16 December, 2012 Posted 16 December, 2012 The problem with giving him (effectively) 3 different red cards is that he couldn't possibly have received all those red cards if the officials had done their jobs and spotted his actions as and when they happened. If he'd been sent off for the first headbutt he couldn't have done the others. That said; to continue doing what he was doing just shows a worrying level of stupidity. I think the FA will likely bottle it and just go with a 3, maybe 4 game ban. Personally I'd give him a 5 or 6 game ban. Plus Shawcross made too much of a meal of the headbutt, it was a bit embarrassing; I'd give him a one game ban for simulation (and a kicks in the balls to tell him to man up, he's a centre half FFS).
TopGun Posted 16 December, 2012 Posted 16 December, 2012 He should get what he deserves. I think he is an excellent player when he does his stuff though. Credit to Moyes for not attempting to defend the player's actions.
RonManager Posted 16 December, 2012 Posted 16 December, 2012 e) Shave his head and make him wear a rubber glove on it like the penguin in 'The Wrong Trousers'.
ottery st mary Posted 16 December, 2012 Posted 16 December, 2012 Ban him ....... and also... Shawcross , Huth and half the Stoke team:p Who get away with foul after foul and half a dozen red card offences every game. Shawcross and Huth committ murder most games. ..Hang em high..
ecuk268 Posted 16 December, 2012 Posted 16 December, 2012 Nothing. He's in my Fantasy team at work and I'm running out of transfers.
CB Saint Posted 16 December, 2012 Posted 16 December, 2012 Fellani should get the red cards and shawcross should have three yelloows seeing as he was practically cuddling Fellani
Ric Posted 16 December, 2012 Posted 16 December, 2012 Okay, I'll offer a different opinion. Watch it, watch it closely. It's NOT a headbutt, it's him forcing his head marginally in to the guy's head and he drops like a sack of sh*t before there's real contact - watch it!! Shawcross was trying to play the game, falling down and looks like a complete woofter. I wouldn't like to see any ban at all. I know exactly what you're saying, but the FA don't see it that way. Any kind of contact head to head is considered a headbutt, and the third offence was just a push in the face - but any action that puts hand to face like that is considered a straight red. If the FA are consistent with their usual punishments, then that's three clear red card offences, and it should be a minimum of a nine match ban. As for Moyes: I'm glad he didn't do a Wenger, and condemned it. Did he say he say it at the time, or only on replay? I got the impression it was only on replay - would be interested to know what he'd have done if he'd actually seen it live? (On a similar point, I'd be interested to know what other managers - Fergie, Adkins, Redknapp, etc. - would do if they saw one of their own players blatantly headbutt an opponent, but the ref not spot it.)
Hatch Posted 16 December, 2012 Posted 16 December, 2012 a 5 Game ban, but he should appeal , so it is delayed a few weeks, then upheld, so he misses the game against us.
dubai_phil Posted 16 December, 2012 Posted 16 December, 2012 Don't care, let it take a long time and then ensure he is banned for when WE play Everton
aintforever Posted 16 December, 2012 Posted 16 December, 2012 from what i saw Shawcross fouled him before he got butted so 'd' nothing.
The Kraken Posted 16 December, 2012 Posted 16 December, 2012 from what i saw Shawcross fouled him before he got butted so 'd' nothing. So if a player fouls you, you're entitled to retalliate by headbutting them? So long as they fouled you first, of course? Interesting.
OttawaSaint Posted 17 December, 2012 Posted 17 December, 2012 Lol, he looked like some bratty little kid, having a quick look to see if the ref was watching before butting him and then later has the same quick peek before the push/punch. I was at a game where Dean Windass collected 3 reds, nasty foul, mouthing off and then throwing a corner flag. Mind you as said above if Fellaini have walked for the first offense the others wouldn't have happened. 3 game ban.
Joey-deacons-left-nut Posted 17 December, 2012 Posted 17 December, 2012 I would cup the balls and caress them as I massaged the shaft.
S-Clarke Posted 17 December, 2012 Posted 17 December, 2012 He's been given a 3 game ban! Just for the headbutt. The other 2 incidents aren't deemed as violent conduct apparently.
derry Posted 17 December, 2012 Posted 17 December, 2012 He's been given a 3 game ban! Just for the headbutt. The other 2 incidents aren't deemed as violent conduct apparently. So what did Shawcross get for holding him in. The rules say, penalty and booked. No reply needed, it's a joke. Referees need to give penalties for holding as the rules require. Even if it means loads of penalties because that would stamp it out.
Wade Garrett Posted 17 December, 2012 Posted 17 December, 2012 I believe he should be banned for 1 match, against us. Seems very fair and reasonable.
Wade Garrett Posted 17 December, 2012 Posted 17 December, 2012 So what did Shawcross get for holding him in. The rules say, penalty and booked. No reply needed, it's a joke. Referees need to give penalties for holding as the rules require. Even if it means loads of penalties because that would stamp it out. I hate the way it's seen as acceptable these days. The referees and authorities are failing in their duty to the game.
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