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SNSUN

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I'm sure we've all seen the nonsense in the tabloids about West Ham wanting Rickie to replace Carroll, and we're all laughing our backsides off about that. But it did get me thinking, as he's 30 (nearly 31), is there an amount of money we'd accept for him? I personally think, with what he gives our team, he's priceless, in that signing a replacement as good (or better) than him would cost perhaps more than we'd receive. He has 3 or 4 years left at the top of his game, and I'd love him to serve out that time with us. But what sort of silly money would become tempting? £5 million? £10million?

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S-Clarke

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It would be a stupid sale, because as you said he'd be irreplaceable. Not just because of his quality and his goals, but the way he's integrated into the group. He plays a huge part off the pitch, as well as on it, so our results - as they always do when he's not around - would take a sharp decline.

 

We'll have to replace him one day, but it needs to be done when the time is right. At the moment, it's not right

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The missus, when in a particularly spiteful mood, has remarked that we are nothing without Rickie Lambert - reminding me of his scouse origins :D

 

We've won without Rickie, but we're so much better with him. He is our front, integral to the way we play. He has a set of attributes that I don't see in the other strikers. Superb in the air, free kicks, flick ons, penalties. His goal against Villa was outstanding; just ploughed through the defenders. He might not be the quickest player, but can't fault him for anything else.

 

We'd be mental to sell him, and I genuinely hope he finishes his career here.

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Crab Lungs

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For a temporary £6-£10m gain, we could end up losing our PL status and far more. It's a "not for sale" from me.

 

You should only sell players when it's the right time to do so - never because someone might offer a sizeable amount of money.

 

The disruption to the team this would cause would make things quite difficult, and we'd have to put aside some time to adapt.. time we won't have if we're scrapping for PL status.

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Good job you're not our chairman then.

 

I'd give it to the summer and do it when the timing suits us.

 

Seriously tho everyone has their price and the club is bigger than any one individual.

I've seen enough from Lambo that it's far-fetched to think he has 3 or 4 years at the highest level left in the tank. I wouldn't be surprised if he fades as the season goes on and gets rotated more and more, especially away from home. Maybe he has another season in him.

Ultimately sentiment always clouds these discussions. We're not made of money and £8m would set us up very nicely - its not like his value is going to depreciate gradually.

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Absolutely suicidal to sell him in January. Personally would have no problems with him leaving at the END of the season if he wants to, but there is no way we can sell him before then.

 

This. Top top player, needs high quality replacement, but I do doubt the "has 3 or 4 years left at the top". This season and next perhaps, then a decline I believe

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In the same way that Rooney is irreplacable for Man Utd, Fellaini is irreplacable for Everton, Bale is irreplacable for Spurs, Rickie is irreplacable for us. He's integral to how we play and we would be stupid to accept anything less than a ridiculous bid for him.

 

 

 

nobody is irreplacable,certainly not footballers. I think we could easily pass on Lambert with the right recruitment and game plan, might even get better, who knows.

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ottery st mary

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Find this strange as we flatly refused an offer of 6/7 million from West Ham in the summer and one other unnamed club.

 

Reliable source at Saints and also West Ham.

 

Also my mate in my local pub.......but he often makes things up.:rolleyes:

 

Saints did NOT accept any offers from anybody:p

 

UNBELIEVABLE:D

 

NEXT SOMEONE....will be trying to convince me man has been to the moon.;)

 

 

Now if they had come back and said 10/15 MIL....WHO KNOWS.....:)

 

bUT 4 NOT OFFERED AND WOULD HAVE BEEN LAUGHED AT...

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Find this strange as we flatly refused an offer of 6/7 million from West Ham in the summer and one other unnamed club.

 

Reliable source at Saints and also West Ham.

 

Also my mate in my local pub.......but he often makes things up.:rolleyes:

 

Saints did NOT accept any offers from anybody:p

 

UNBELIEVABLE:D

 

NEXT SOMEONE....will be trying to convince me man has been to the moon.;)

 

 

Now if they had come back and said 10/15 MIL....WHO KNOWS.....:)

 

bUT 4 NOT OFFERED AND WOULD HAVE BEEN LAUGHED AT...

 

You are right,they didn't accept offers as the deal was pulled at the last minute but the offer was there and it was £4m I now also believe that because the deal was pulled it led to sharp going to forest.

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david in sweden

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nobody is irreplacable,certainly not footballers.

I think we could easily pass on Lambert with the right recruitment and game plan, might even get better, who knows.

 

 

I was about to say the same thing Window Cleaner

 

Not that I'm anxious to see RL go, but sooner or later he will play his last game for Saints...and all must be aware of that..and be prepared to " move on".

 

(I am of the generation that saw the legendary Ron Davies in the late 1960's ..but after 5 or 6 years ...the magic had gone and it was painful to watch and sad when you remembered " how great he had been ". I'd hate to see the same thing with RL.

 

QUOTE;

......." .the graveyards are full of irreplaceable people " .....Gen. Charles De Gaulle

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nobody is irreplacable,certainly not footballers. I think we could easily pass on Lambert with the right recruitment and game plan, might even get better, who knows.

 

Hard to believe we would sell Rickie (especially to West Hoof) as he is integral to our game plan and then who would defend corners and free kicks for us (our CB's? ... what all on their own??).

 

However, taking up your succession planning point, if we could get good money now before the decline starts, that could then possibly be the money that buys Gary Hooper who is younger and has more goals in him going forward. GH won't defend corners for you but he would not be Rickie's direct replacement, that's what we have J-Rod for...

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If you say so. Sounds like utter b*llocks to me.

 

until you remember that Lambert didn't start the first game of the season, now why that was I either don't know or can't remember,

but for our first appearance in the PL under the new regime Lambert wasn't considered to be irreplacable. Mind you whatever the point that someone was trying to prove was, playing Guly at CF wasn't the best way of doing it.

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until you remember that Lambert didn't start the first game of the season, now why that was I either don't know or can't remember,

but for our first appearance in the PL under the new regime Lambert wasn't considered to be irreplacable. Mind you whatever the point that someone was trying to prove was, playing Guly at CF wasn't the best way of doing it.

 

which ever way you try and make the rumour sound true, it still sounds laughable. :lol:

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Lord Duckhunter

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Everybody has a price and if we could get in a younger, better player,I would go for it. If not, he stays. To hang onto him for sentimental reasons is barmy. It all depends who the replacement is, before we decided whether it's a good move or not. He's 30 odd with a handful of PL games under his belt, not Wayne Rooney.

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david in sweden

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Everybody has a price and if we could get in a younger, better player,I would go for it. If not, he stays.

To hang onto him for sentimental reasons is barmy. It all depends who the replacement is, before we decided whether it's a good move or not. He's 30 odd with a handful of PL games under his belt, not Wayne Rooney.

 

 

well said that man ! (I'm not desperate to see him go.... but he'll be 31 in February... btw)

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You are right,they didn't accept offers as the deal was pulled at the last minute but the offer was there and it was £4m I now also believe that because the deal was pulled it led to sharp going to forest.

 

Source?

 

I know Ottery is well connected but I'd be happy to hear why you're so definite about this?

 

I also believe his value to the way that we play is born out of the understandings that have developed and grown through our journey through the leagues and you can't replace that at a stroke...no matter how much you spend. In my opinion West Ham is not a step up for him anyway...unless he wants cheap porn and a chance to play at the Olympic stadium..

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RonManager

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Me too :-)

 

But would he lose "legend" status?

 

No.

 

I happened across Ron Davies on Southampton Central one morning just after he'd left us to play for the club that shall not speak it's name. I can see him now, clear as day, unshaven and looking hungover. I should have gone up to him, wished him well and told him he'd always be a Saints legend, but I just walked on by, awestruck that I'd been so close to my idol.

 

SRL is the latter day Ron Davies.

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david in sweden

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don't think he'd lose it as he's been probably our best player over recent seasons but it would definitely tarnish it slightly. Still a legend just not as much of a legend.. if thats possible

 

Whilst what you say is true, it should be remembered that most of the goals that RL scored were in L1, and YES...he still looked good at Championship level....

 

I'm pleased for his sake that he made it to the scoring stats. in the Prem, but soon 31 ....he is definitely close to his best buy date, if he hasn't passed it already.

 

Former " legends" .Ron Davies, Mick Channon and MLT all scored most of their goals in successive seasons in Div.1 / Prem. sides.........not quite the same.

 

We'd all like to see him continue to score, but IF we are ever going to sell him (and make a good deal) ......it has to be this season otherwise he will stay...and stay... until the goals twindle away and we'll have the sad memory of how great he once was.

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I don't think it's healthy for any club to be reliant on any one player. If we believe this is the case Lambert, we need to fix that. Even if he doesn't leave, he's a bad injury away from causing the same problem.

 

I can't see him going to WHam though, as all he'd gain is money and I'm sure we can solve that problem ourselves. It's not like WHam are going to be competing for Champions League football next season, they will be fighting us for mid-table safety.

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