S-Clarke Posted 16 December, 2012 Share Posted 16 December, 2012 My daughter has assured me that all ends well in a comfortable mid table position for the mighty Saints. Sorry to hear about your personal set backs......but chin up and things will be better for you around the corner... Meryy xmas mate......make it so for your loved ones.... Would echo the same, good post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 16 December, 2012 Share Posted 16 December, 2012 Are we talking what would our thoughts be if he finished mid table this season ? And so evaluate his performance to that point ? Sorry if Id missed the point here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 16 December, 2012 Share Posted 16 December, 2012 A manager has a lot of responsibilities at a football club. He failed in a lot of those alongside other members of staff at places like Pompey, Bournemouth etc... He's an effective manager but with baggage. Would I ever want him at Saints? Never. Dont they say managers are judged by results? In that case his results at the clubs you mention, plus West Ham and Spurs are very, very good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Chalet Posted 16 December, 2012 Share Posted 16 December, 2012 Cannot believe what I have read here. Unfortunately there is no specific infraction for being a ****. Hypo, take a good hard look at yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jawillwill Posted 16 December, 2012 Share Posted 16 December, 2012 Well said Otter and I also offer my good wishes. A certain poster on here should be ashamed of his comments. It would be nice if there was some moderation done on this forum and I honestly think comments like this deserve a long ban. Agreed. I'm hope Avenue Saint knows that Hypo is in the very small minority with his opinions. What a nasty piece of ****. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Chalet Posted 16 December, 2012 Share Posted 16 December, 2012 Well seeing as though my son died in June as newborn and mother diagnosed with cancer two days ago, I think I understand the concept of death as much as the next man. Very sorry to hear that fella, just a shame some others can't have the humanity to try and empathise with rather than question your situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 16 December, 2012 Share Posted 16 December, 2012 Cannot believe what I have read here. Unfortunately there is no specific infraction for being a ****. Hypo, take a good hard look at yourself. why isnt there..? this is not the Politically Correct world where you can complain to your MP..this is a private message board..if you want to ban someone for no reason, you are within your right fuking grow a pair ffs and clean this board up...starting with comments like Hypo has said. fuking idiot no doubt, you will infract me for that....but it needed to be said after your spineless comment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 16 December, 2012 Share Posted 16 December, 2012 Cannot believe what I have read here. Unfortunately there is no specific infraction for being a ****. Hypo, take a good hard look at yourself. Just ban him, we don't need someone like him around. It was a shocking comment, but it's not the first time he's derailed a thread and it won't be the last. He's a dull, vile, poster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 16 December, 2012 Share Posted 16 December, 2012 Dont they say managers are judged by results? In that case his results at the clubs you mention, plus West Ham and Spurs are very, very good. Ive never understood this in regards to Harry, at the end of the day Harry is not the custodian of these clubs, he is not in charge of the overall financial state of the club, not the purse strings. Ok he has spent some money, what managers have not at some point ? At the end of the day it is the chairman of said clubs that have gambled on the financial future of their clubs, they dont have to blindly fund a manager spending his budget. If I was appointed as a manager and got a sizeable fund to spend i certainly wouldnt question the expertise of the chairman, thats not my job, my job is to get the best out of players I have and I buy and achieve success. And for all of the crap that gets posted about Harry, he regularly achieves success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 16 December, 2012 Share Posted 16 December, 2012 why isnt there..? this is not the Politically Correct world where you can complain to your MP..this is a private message board..if you want to ban someone for no reason, you are within your right There would quite clearly be reason. Staggering how vile some people can be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 16 December, 2012 Share Posted 16 December, 2012 There would quite clearly be reason. Staggering how vile some people can be. I know there is a reason..but sadly ST Chalet is turned into a spinless **** I kept out of it, thinking the MODS would take action..but jesus christ this is aboard for football..not mocking someones personal tradegy..and for a comment saying "i cant do anything" is utterly staggering Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Chalet Posted 16 December, 2012 Share Posted 16 December, 2012 why isnt there..? this is not the Politically Correct world where you can complain to your MP..this is a private message board..if you want to ban someone for no reason, you are within your right fuking grow a pair ffs and clean this board up...starting with comments like Hypo has said. fuking idiot no doubt, you will infract me for that....but it needed to be said after your spineless comment I think everyone that has been posted has been pretty clear, it was a ****e comment that anyone with any sense of humanity would fail to comprehend. No amount of infractions (specific or otherwise) would change that. And no Delldays, I won't infract you for that because you are entitled to your opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ewell Posted 16 December, 2012 Share Posted 16 December, 2012 why isnt there..? this is not the Politically Correct world where you can complain to your MP..this is a private message board..if you want to ban someone for no reason, you are within your right fuking grow a pair ffs and clean this board up...starting with comments like Hypo has said. Agreed and I personally think a combination of the following rules have been broken as it was an obvious attempt to get a reaction. DO check that what you are writing is relevant to the forum you are on. Any post deemed unsuitable to the forum topic will be moved. DO NOT deliberately start arguments. This is known as "trolling". It is usually very easy to spot, and offending threads will be locked or deleted. DO NOT make sarcastic comments or imply that a thread is "boring" just because it doesn't interest you. If it doesn't interest you, please simply ignore the thread. If a particular user appears to irritate you on a regular basis, use the "Ignore User" feature. DO NOT involve a forum member's personal life in forum discussions unless the discussion directly involves that member and he/she is happy for it to be discussed. If you are in any doubt, don't post it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 16 December, 2012 Share Posted 16 December, 2012 Back on topic. Any manager that can take a team from the third tier to mid-table in the premier league in consecutive seasons deserves full credit. If Nigel Adkins can achieve that I would be extremely impressed and grateful. If it was simply a case of money then Leicester and QPR would be gunning for European qualification, to make the most of the opportunity is the key, the resources at your disposal simply provide the chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 16 December, 2012 Share Posted 16 December, 2012 Cannot believe what I have read here. Unfortunately there is no specific infraction for being a ****. Hypo, take a good hard look at yourself. Though I sm not one to call for infractions against anyone but that comment was a little out of hand, Im not saying ban him but Hypo does need to look at himself after that. But you lot do make me laugh, happy to infract someone for absolutely no reason or for some paltry pathetic reason such as being sarcastic etc and then bottle it when you actually need to act Pathetic really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Chalet Posted 16 December, 2012 Share Posted 16 December, 2012 I know there is a reason..but sadly ST Chalet is turned into a spinless **** I kept out of it, thinking the MODS would take action..but jesus christ this is aboard for football..not mocking someones personal tradegy..and for a comment saying "i cant do anything" is utterly staggering What action, delete the comments that everyone had seen or support the other posters in agreeing that it is unacceptable and in poor taste? Thanks for your support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 16 December, 2012 Share Posted 16 December, 2012 I think everyone that has been posted has been pretty clear, it was a ****e comment that anyone with any sense of humanity would fail to comprehend. No amount of infractions (specific or otherwise) would change that. And no Delldays, I won't infract you for that because you are entitled to your opinion. just f-ing ban him..this is supposed to be a board for saints fans to dicuss football...not mock personal grief...you are right, it cant be taken back but YOU can make sure it NEVER happens again....as it will.. Agreed and I personally think a combination of the following rules have been broken as it was an obvious attempt to get a reaction. DO check that what you are writing is relevant to the forum you are on. Any post deemed unsuitable to the forum topic will be moved. DO NOT deliberately start arguments. This is known as "trolling". It is usually very easy to spot, and offending threads will be locked or deleted. DO NOT make sarcastic comments or imply that a thread is "boring" just because it doesn't interest you. If it doesn't interest you, please simply ignore the thread. If a particular user appears to irritate you on a regular basis, use the "Ignore User" feature. DO NOT involve a forum member's personal life in forum discussions unless the discussion directly involves that member and he/she is happy for it to be discussed. If you are in any doubt, don't post it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 16 December, 2012 Share Posted 16 December, 2012 Though I sm not one to call for infractions against anyone but that comment was a little out of hand, Im not saying ban him but Hypo does need to look at himself after that. But you lot do make me laugh, happy to infract someone for absolutely no reason or for some paltry pathetic reason such as being sarcastic etc and then bottle it when you actually need to act Pathetic really. 100% agree I got infractions for being nothing more than sarcastic in the recent past...but this is a new low for you St Chalet... clearly not interested in modding this place properly...its all to see Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Chalet Posted 16 December, 2012 Share Posted 16 December, 2012 Though I sm not one to call for infractions against anyone but that comment was a little out of hand, Im not saying ban him but Hypo does need to look at himself after that. But you lot do make me laugh, happy to infract someone for absolutely no reason or for some paltry pathetic reason such as being sarcastic etc and then bottle it when you actually need to act Pathetic really. I think the public condemnation is probably more powerful than any infraction. As it happens I don't always issue infractions straight away. Normally delete the comment (not practical in this instance as a lot of time has passed), and reflect and / or discuss with the other Mods. Hopefully as a result you get a more balanced sanction (if any) applied. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 16 December, 2012 Share Posted 16 December, 2012 Ive never understood this in regards to Harry, at the end of the day Harry is not the custodian of these clubs, he is not in charge of the overall financial state of the club, not the purse strings. Ok he has spent some money, what managers have not at some point ? At the end of the day it is the chairman of said clubs that have gambled on the financial future of their clubs, they dont have to blindly fund a manager spending his budget. If I was appointed as a manager and got a sizeable fund to spend i certainly wouldnt question the expertise of the chairman, thats not my job, my job is to get the best out of players I have and I buy and achieve success. And for all of the crap that gets posted about Harry, he regularly achieves success. Exactly this. He is very good at finding players and getting them to play in a cohesive unit. It does make me laugh how some on here claim he bankrupts clubs and point to Pompey as an example of this. Convieniently ignoring the successsion of corrupt owners and the fact that he made huge profits on Sully Muntari, Defoe, Glen Johnson and Diarra. He may be a c*nt but he's a very effective manager and like any manager, if you give him money he'll spend it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 16 December, 2012 Share Posted 16 December, 2012 I think the public condemnation is probably more powerful than any infraction. As it happens I don't always issue infractions straight away. Normally delete the comment (not practical in this instance as a lot of time has passed), and reflect and / or discuss with the other Mods. Hopefully as a result you get a more balanced sanction (if any) applied. so, how many infractions has hypo got for one of the most disgusting comments all year..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Chalet Posted 16 December, 2012 Share Posted 16 December, 2012 100% agree I got infractions for being nothing more than sarcastic in the recent past...but this is a new low for you St Chalet... clearly not interested in modding this place properly...its all to see Sorry you feel that way, you have really spoiled my afternoon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norwaysaint Posted 16 December, 2012 Share Posted 16 December, 2012 If you can't ban somebody for a being a ****, what exactly were posters like deppo banned for? he posted mostly innocuous stuff, but was banned for basically being a bit silly. Being nasty is allowable, but being silly is worthy of a ban? Wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 16 December, 2012 Share Posted 16 December, 2012 Though I sm not one to call for infractions against anyone but that comment was a little out of hand, Im not saying ban him but Hypo does need to look at himself after that. But you lot do make me laugh, happy to infract someone for absolutely no reason or for some paltry pathetic reason such as being sarcastic etc and then bottle it when you actually need to act Pathetic really. Yep, agree fully. As someone that has recieved a number of infractions for supposedly sarcastic and pointless comments and was given one only the other day, 2 points for "insulting another forum member" for joking calling MiltonRoader a skate c*nt, (like dozens of others have) and patronisingly told to grow up by Just Mike it's totally hilarious and pathetic the reaction of the mods on this. Not that i agree with infraction points on an internet forum by the way. Funny how they are happy to dish them out like confetti for sometimes and totally bottle it on others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 16 December, 2012 Share Posted 16 December, 2012 so, how many infractions has hypo got for one of the most disgusting comments all year..? Ah, you saw that, eh? I didn't report him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 16 December, 2012 Share Posted 16 December, 2012 Back on topic. Any manager that can take a team from the third tier to mid-table in the premier league in consecutive seasons deserves full credit. If Nigel Adkins can achieve that I would be extremely impressed and grateful. If it was simply a case of money then Leicester and QPR would be gunning for European qualification, to make the most of the opportunity is the key, the resources at your disposal simply provide the chance. I agree, posters who are using the money spent as a stick to beat Adkins with need to take a look at themselves. Our squad value is still low lower half for the premier league and after back to back promotions we needed that 30M to give outselves a chance of being competative. We were never going to build the perfect squad with that money but have done well considering how many players we have from League 1 who are simply not good enough...butterfield, dickson, chaplow, forte, seabourn, hammond etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 16 December, 2012 Share Posted 16 December, 2012 Sorry you feel that way, you have really spoiled my afternoon. Is this sarcastic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 16 December, 2012 Share Posted 16 December, 2012 Back on topic. Any manager that can take a team from the third tier to mid-table in the premier league in consecutive seasons deserves full credit. If Nigel Adkins can achieve that I would be extremely impressed and grateful. If it was simply a case of money then Leicester and QPR would be gunning for European qualification, to make the most of the opportunity is the key, the resources at your disposal simply provide the chance. Norwich route to the premier league was exactly the same as ours, they've established themselves by spending half what we have in one season less. They've also had a managerial change in that time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 16 December, 2012 Share Posted 16 December, 2012 Is this sarcastic? It seems so, 1 point infraction please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 16 December, 2012 Share Posted 16 December, 2012 Is this sarcastic? I believe it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 16 December, 2012 Share Posted 16 December, 2012 Norwich route to the premier league was exactly the same as ours, they've established themselves by spending half what we have in one season less. They've also had a managerial change in that time. This is true, but their relegation to League 1 was a surprise, ours was deserved. They had a better and established base to build up from in the first place, we had to rebuild completely. Norwich's achievements have been outstanding and utterly unprecedented. If we could in any way emulate them, even considering the resources we have had to put into our side to facilitate it would be equally impressive. We would be only the second side in the modern era to survive after back to back promotions, simply because it's been done already shouldn't lessen the feat should it come to pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 16 December, 2012 Share Posted 16 December, 2012 This is true, but their relegation to League 1 was a surprise, ours was deserved. They had a better and established base to build up from in the first place, we had to rebuild completely. Norwich's achievements have been outstanding and utterly unprecedented. If we could in any way emulate them, even considering the resources we have had to put into our side to facilitate it would be equally impressive. We would be only the second side in the modern era to survive after back to back promotions, simply because it's been done already shouldn't lessen the feat should it come to pass. Have you forgotten they lost 7-1 at home on the opening day of the season they got promoted from L1?! Great side! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 16 December, 2012 Share Posted 16 December, 2012 (edited) Have you forgotten they lost 7-1 at home on the opening day of the season they got promoted from L1?! Great side! That was under Brian Gunn. The manager who relegated them. They replaced him with the manager of the opposing team who crushed them that day, Colchester and never looked back. Poor management can ruin even a good team, with Lambert at the helm they never looked back. The Norwich team that day included Holt and Hoolahan. Players now competing and impressing at Premier League level. Edited 16 December, 2012 by Colinjb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 16 December, 2012 Share Posted 16 December, 2012 That was under Brian Gunn. The manager who relegated them. They replaced him with the manager of the opposing team who crushed them that day, Colchester and never looked back. Poor management can ruin even a good team, with Lambert at the helm they never looked back. We had an extra season to rebuild after our relegation. In Schniderlin, Fonte, K Davis, Lambert, Lallana and Puncheon we had players at the club when Adkins took over that started our last home game in the Premier league and have arguably been some of our best players this season, with the obvious exception of Davis. Im by no means belittling what Adkins has done, he still had to find a winning forumla but to say he had to rebuild and it was tougher for us than it was for Norwich is rose tinted nonsense. We've spent double what they have in the same period and he inherited a team in L1 where over half of them have since proven themselves to be capable of performing in the premier league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 16 December, 2012 Share Posted 16 December, 2012 This is true, but their relegation to League 1 was a surprise, ours was deserved. They had a better and established base to build up from in the first place, we had to rebuild completely. Norwich's achievements have been outstanding and utterly unprecedented. If we could in any way emulate them, even considering the resources we have had to put into our side to facilitate it would be equally impressive. We would be only the second side in the modern era to survive after back to back promotions, simply because it's been done already shouldn't lessen the feat should it come to pass. Not quite sure on that, I think there's was as deserved. They were down there most of the season, and IIRC...were cut adrift at points over the season. In theory, they had to rebuild as much as we had to rebuild. They lost a hell of alot, signed a hell of a lot and then lost 7-1 on the first day! They then changed manager and eventually got going. I'd like to see us as a very similar outfit to Norwich in terms of what we've done, and if they can do what they've done in this league, then we should be able to - esp with players such as Gaston, who they wouldn't get close to signing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 16 December, 2012 Share Posted 16 December, 2012 We had an extra season to rebuild after our relegation. In Schniderlin, Fonte, K Davis, Lambert, Lallana and Puncheon we had players at the club when Adkins took over that started our last home game in the Premier league and have arguably been some of our best players this season, with the obvious exception of Davis. Im by no means belittling what Adkins has done, he still had to find a winning forumla but to say he had to rebuild and it was tougher for us than it was for Norwich is rose tinted nonsense. We've spent double what they have in the same period and he inherited a team where over half of them have proven themselves to be capable of performing in the premier league. Good to know. Then we are agreed that even if he cannot match what Norwich have managed then survival, let alone mid-table would be an achievement to savour, regardless of whether it has been outstripped by another club? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 16 December, 2012 Share Posted 16 December, 2012 Good to know. Then we are agreed that even if he cannot match what Norwich have managed then survival, let alone mid-table would be an achievement to savour, regardless of whether it has been outstripped by another club? As ive always said, if we stay up then he's done well. My original point was though was that some of our fans belittle the achievements of some managers by saying they are only any good when they have money to spend. By that yardstick then surely they will also be critical of Nigel unless we finish midtable, as he too has spent significant sums of money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 16 December, 2012 Share Posted 16 December, 2012 As ive always said, if we stay up then he's done well. My original point was though was that some of our fans belittle the achievements of some managers by saying they are only any good when they have money to spend. By that yardstick then surely they will also be critical of Nigel unless we finish midtable, as he too has spent significant sums of money. It's not the money that I would be critical of, it's how it was focused. Over twenty million on two attacking players, if they make the difference that keeps us up then fantastic, if not then questions would need to be asked. I would feel it would be the wrong to point the finger at just Nigel Adkins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 16 December, 2012 Share Posted 16 December, 2012 I think it'll be a great achievement from him, he is a decent up and coming manager and has built a cohesive unit, he does make a few tactical mistakes though make no bones about it. And as much as he has do e very very well we as a club have spent a phenominal amount of money TBH culminating on the 30m this year, perhaps it was necessary, I think it was to build a solid foundation, personally we wont know if Adkins is truelly great until perhaps next year or the year after when we will see how his players bed in. We have not gone out and bought prem experience, we have bought players for the next few years in mind. Relegation this year woukd be unnacceptable, mid table respectable, and no Im not going to look down at what Adkins has done, I just like to be a bit more objective about things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 16 December, 2012 Share Posted 16 December, 2012 As ive always said, if we stay up then he's done well. My original point was though was that some of our fans belittle the achievements of some managers by saying they are only any good when they have money to spend. By that yardstick then surely they will also be critical of Nigel unless we finish midtable, as he too has spent significant sums of money. I will think he's done brilliantly if we finish 17th tbh. Despite the money spent, all the bookies had us as favourites to go down at the start of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 16 December, 2012 Share Posted 16 December, 2012 I will think he's done brilliantly if we finish 17th tbh. Despite the money spent, all the bookies had us as favourites to go down at the start of the season. I agree. But will those on here who critise other managers success as being purely down to money also claim Nige wouldn't have kept us up without it? It would only be fair if they did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 16 December, 2012 Share Posted 16 December, 2012 It's not the money that I would be critical of, it's how it was focused. Over twenty million on two attacking players, if they make the difference that keeps us up then fantastic, if not then questions would need to be asked. I would feel it would be the wrong to point the finger at just Nigel Adkins. So when some managers as successful with money we are told on here it's only because they have money they couldn't do it without it. However if Nige is a sucess its because he's a brilliant manager doing a great job regardless of the money he had compared to our rivals, if he isn't successful it's because the money he had wasn't spent wisely by others, yes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 16 December, 2012 Share Posted 16 December, 2012 Not quite sure on that, I think there's was as deserved. They were down there most of the season, and IIRC...were cut adrift at points over the season. In theory, they had to rebuild as much as we had to rebuild. They lost a hell of alot, signed a hell of a lot and then lost 7-1 on the first day! They then changed manager and eventually got going. I'd like to see us as a very similar outfit to Norwich in terms of what we've done, and if they can do what they've done in this league, then we should be able to - esp with players such as Gaston, who they wouldn't get close to signing. It was deserved but Bryan Gunn didn't make the most of his resources in the NPC - remember going there on a Feb evening and watching us get a very lucky 2-2 draw - McLaggon got a goal! They had enough to stay up; we didn't. Likewise, after relegation, they kept their squad together and didn't suffer a 10 point penalty - effects of which can't be underestimated. The gap between the teams was pretty clear when they came to our place and Hoolihan made us look silly (albeit the game ended in a draw thanks to DC's wonder strike). Certainly we strengthened in the 2010 winter window, bringing in Punch, Fonte and Barnard -remember going to their place when they were firing on all cylinders and beating them 2-0; but those signings arrived too late into the season to make up all the ground we had lost early on at places like Stockport and Swindon. I think the difference between the clubs has now eroded -if anything we entered the prem in better nick than them (they bought the solid but unspectacular Morrison, we spunked a load on Rodriguez on whom the jury will be out for quite a while). If they can stay up, we should too. That said, Norwich might just be an outlier - there are plenty of newly promoted clubs that have spent big yet have crashed and burned. Surely when comparing success and what it looks like, the experience of all those clubs is just as relevant as history's winners (for now) like Norwich. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 16 December, 2012 Share Posted 16 December, 2012 Mid-table?? Need about 50 points so that's another 35 in 22 games then. Winning about half of our remaining games. Boy are we in for a treat. We'll do well to stay up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintfully Posted 16 December, 2012 Share Posted 16 December, 2012 I think it'll be a great achievement from him, he is a decent up and coming manager and has built a cohesive unit, he does make a few tactical mistakes though make no bones about it. And as much as he has do e very very well we as a club have spent a phenominal amount of money TBH culminating on the 30m this year, perhaps it was necessary, I think it was to build a solid foundation, personally we wont know if Adkins is truelly great until perhaps next year or the year after when we will see how his players bed in. W[B]e have not gone out and bought prem experience, we have bought players for the next few years in mind. [/b] Relegation this year woukd be unnacceptable, mid table respectable, and no Im not going to look down at what Adkins has done, I just like to be a bit more objective about things. A couple of points. i) Agree that buying for the future rather than experience is an important observation - IMHO it makes the job of manager a bit harder. ii) Some of the footy we play now is brilliant to watch - and I think has more to offer long-term than other more direct styles. For these reasons, 'I'm in'. Mid-table this season = 10/10, survival = 6/10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 16 December, 2012 Share Posted 16 December, 2012 Fwiw I think we will finish just above the relegation zone but it will be a close run thing. A lot will hinge on what business we do in January. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint-Armstrong Posted 16 December, 2012 Share Posted 16 December, 2012 Ridiculous. Seems certain people can get away with being vile ****s but others can not. I echo the above, grow a pair and kick the massive goon off, be it for a short or long period of time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simo Posted 16 December, 2012 Share Posted 16 December, 2012 I would only be happy with promotion this season too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avenue Saint Posted 16 December, 2012 Author Share Posted 16 December, 2012 Thank you for all the posts above. It's been a difficult year but kind words soften the weight of sadness... Please all focus on the thread and apologies for bringing it up. Up the mighty Saints! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 16 December, 2012 Share Posted 16 December, 2012 I note that on the Pompey takeover thread, we showed that most of us are decent human beings with a bit of class, as many expressed condolences towards the family of a Pompey fan who died yesterday on his way home from Fratton Park. What a shame that on our own forum comprising fellow Saints fans that we have somebody who lacks this basic humanity towards another of our own fans during a time of similar personal grief. I'm pleased to see that my faith in human nature is partly restored by the shocked response and universal condemnation that has been heaped on the offender. Please add my sympathy and best wishes to those expressed by others, Avenue Saint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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