A weekend off, where will we be at the end of it?

[Matthew Le God]

Oh I'm sorry, I didn't realise I had to reply to your every post. Especially when I've already responded in other posts.

 

'the occasion got to us'

 

That on its own is compelling evidence is it not?

 

It appears you still haven't read it.

[Turkish]

It appears you still haven't read it.

 

Read what? Im not quite sure how you are attempting to spin our captain saying 'the occasion got to us' as anything over than what is obviously means.

[hypochondriac]

Read what? Im not quite sure how you are attempting to spin our captain saying 'the occasion got to us' as anything over than what is obviously means.

 

Think he is saying that the echo took that quote and tried to make it seem like something else. Bizarre.

[Bearsy]

Watched the Villa game at my local up here in Birmingham. The Villa massive was surprisingly confident pre-match, they reckon they ain't lost at Anfield for 10 years or something (can this be true?). The game was a lot like when we got mugged at home to Reading last season, Liverpool was all over them really but you always fancied Villa on the break. That Benteke is a handful.

[Window Cleaner]

Watched the Villa game at my local up here in Birmingham. The Villa massive was surprisingly confident pre-match, they reckon they ain't lost at Anfield for 10 years or something (can this be true?). The game was a lot like when we got mugged at home to Reading last season, Liverpool was all over them really but you always fancied Villa on the break. That Benteke is a handful.

 

 

As I said in the post match, if we'd have had a bit more up front in the Anfield game we'd have got something. We need to revisit our attacking options because Lambert can be predictable ands Lallana is often wasteful in front of goal.

Edited 15 December, 2012 by Window Cleaner

[NickG]

I wouldn't be surprised. Would Redknapp still be a terrible clueless manager who bankrupts clubs then?

 

if he keep them up with current squad will have done well. If he signs Lampard, Dawson, Crouch or similar and they stay up....probably any of the bottom 6 would be hugely disappointed if they did not climb several places with additions of that caliber.

 

 

While everyone assumes reading are gone

 

They have to play at home...

 

Saints

Sunderland

Villa

Wigan

QPR

 

The complete opposite to us

 

I think Reading will be several places and points below us at the end of the season.

 

Why don't you just enjoy our one season in this division....we will be adrift and not able to stay up by Christmas if Adkins stays after all

 

 

 

 

Mixed for us today, but fully expects QPR to get a win today. Fulham have won just won game in the last 12.

 

 

The bottom 6 for current form are; QPR, Sunderland, Fulham, Wigan, Newcastle, Reading.

 

We are 6th.

 

Upcoming fixtures;

Reading (9)- H Arsenal, A Man City, H Swansea, H West Ham, A Spurs (12?)

QPR -(10) A Newcastle, H West Brom, H Liverpool, A Chelsea, H Spurs (12)

Wigan (15)- H Arsenal, A Everton, A Aston Villa, H Man U, A Fulham (19)

Saints -(15) H Sunderland, A Fulham, A Stoke, H Arsenal, A Aston Villa (20)

Sunderland (16)A Saints, H Man City, H Spurs, A Liverpool, H West Ham, (17)

Newcastle -(17) H Qpr, A Man U, A Arsenal, H Everton, A Norwich, (22)

Aston Villa - (18)A Chelsea, H Spurs, H Wigan, A Swansea, H Saints, (23)

Fulham -(20) A Liverpool, H Saints, H Swansea, A West Brom, H Wigan (24)

 

so table in 5 more games possibly something like..

Fulham 24

Aston Villa 23

Newcastle 22

Saints 20

Wigan 19

Sunderland 17

Reading12

Qpr12

 

important game Sunderland!!

[Saint Without a Halo]

While everyone assumes reading are gone

 

They have to play at home...

 

Saints

Sunderland

Villa

Wigan

QPR

 

The complete opposite to us

 

Not exactly true we havn't played sunderland at home yet till next week and we still have QPR at home too! anyway should help us pick up points away!

Edited 15 December, 2012 by Saint Without a Halo

[Dalek2003]

So did Norwich. They are currently 7th.

 

You can't make comparisons like this. Different teams perform differently on different days. If you replayed all our matches, putting out exactly the same teams in the same formation, do you think all the results would be the same? We would probably beat Wigan at home 3-0, draw at QPR and get spanked 4-0 at Man City. That's just the random nature of football, you can't compare one result from one team in one fixture. It's a meaningless statistic, like rolling a dice once, rolling a 4 and concluding that if you roll a dice you will get a 4.

 

Liverpool ****ed all over Norwich who are now 7th. that can't be roght surely ?

[Dalek2003]

Turkish getting a right rinsing tonight

[Turkish]

Newcastle are in serious danger if being dragged into it. They won't go down but are badly out of form and got some tough games to come.

[Thedelldays]

Newcastle are in serious danger if being dragged into it. They won't go down but are badly out of form and got some tough games to come.

all true..they are on a terrible run....without cabeye and ben arfa they are as direct as you can get..lump the ball to ba and cisse and feed off the scraps

[Olallana]

I just love when people make judgements from single games....

 

So lets go..... Aston Villa beats Liverpool and are therefore better than them, but Liverpool beat us and we beats Reading but Reading beats Everton and Everton beats Man U and Man U beats Man C but Man C beats Tottenham that beat us.........

 

 

My point of view. Judge teams by the table, not by single games.

[Window Cleaner]

Newcastle are in serious danger if being dragged into it. They won't go down but are badly out of form and got some tough games to come.

 

watched most of that game today, Newcastle have serious problems, absent at the back, awful in midfield and erratic at the front.

If AP keeps them up they should give him a life contract.

[Ex Lion Tamer]

all true..they are on a terrible run....without cabeye and ben arfa they are as direct as you can get..lump the ball to ba and cisse and feed off the scraps

 

Could get worse for them too if Ba goes in Jan and they don't replace him

[Turkish]

I just love when people make judgements from single games....

 

So lets go..... Aston Villa beats Liverpool and are therefore better than them, but Liverpool beat us and we beats Reading but Reading beats Everton and Everton beats Man U and Man U beats Man C but Man C beats Tottenham that beat us.........

 

 

My point of view. Judge teams by the table, not by single games.

 

And Villa are above us so they are doing something better, yes?

[Window Cleaner]

Could get worse for them too if Ba goes in Jan and they don't replace him

 

 

part of the problem is Ba, inconsistent and can't seem to play with Cissé. They'd be better with a brick crapper CF like err Carroll.

[Turkish]

watched most of that game today, Newcastle have serious problems, absent at the back, awful in midfield and erratic at the front.

If AP keeps them up they should give him a life contract.

 

Now I know they were playing Man City but really they should have been out of sight by half time. Newcastle just had nothing

[Window Cleaner]

Now I know they were playing Man City but really they should have been out of sight by half time. Newcastle just had nothing

 

City weren't all that good really, first 2 goals were gifts. Just can't see what anybody sees in that Tiote.

[shurlock]

I just love when people make judgements from single games....

 

So lets go..... Aston Villa beats Liverpool and are therefore better than them, but Liverpool beat us and we beats Reading but Reading beats Everton and Everton beats Man U and Man U beats Man C but Man C beats Tottenham that beat us.........

 

 

My point of view. Judge teams by the table, not by single games.

 

How many points have we got away from home? The liverpool performance was not a one-off but is symptomatic of our inability to get it right on the road. What works at home e.g. playing Lambert upfront hasn't really worked away.

[Olallana]

And Villa are above us so they are doing something better, yes?

 

Yes they have.

 

And our captain has said that we will stay up, and you wouldn´t say that you know more about football than him, or would you??

[Olallana]

How many points have we got away from home? The liverpool performance was not a one-off but is symptomatic of our inability to get it right on the road. What works at home e.g. playing Lambert upfront hasn't really worked away.

 

For me, Adam Lallanas view of it that it was a bit of stage fright makes perfect sense.

If you look at our team and for example Aston Villa today the difference is that most of their team has been at a stadium like Anfield before, our´s has not.

I am 100% sure that it wont happen next time we will be playing there.

 

Our away game has not been good but our toughest games has mostly been away so far.

[Thedelldays]

For me, Adam Lallanas view of it that it was a bit of stage fright makes perfect sense.

If you look at our team and for example Aston Villa today the difference is that most of their team has been at a stadium like Anfield before, our´s has not.

I am 100% sure that it wont happen next time we will be playing there.

 

Our away game has not been good but our toughest games has mostly been away so far.

but our players have played at wembley.....

 

[Olallana]

but our players have played at wembley.....

 

 

But did we play really good that day or did we play another team that played there for the first time and were worse than us?

 

And for the sake of it, how many of our players in the lineup at Anfield played at Wembley?

Fonte, Lallana, Schneiderlin and Lambert I guess?

[Thedelldays]

But did we play really good that day or did we play another team that had not played there for the first time and were worse than us?

 

And for the sake of it, how many of our players in the lineup at Anfield played at Wembley?

Fonte, Lallana, Schneiderlin and Lambert I guess?

how many of villa players had played at anfield before then../?

[shurlock]

For me, Adam Lallanas view of it that it was a bit of stage fright makes perfect sense.

If you look at our team and for example Aston Villa today the difference is that most of their team has been at a stadium like Anfield before, our´s has not.

I am 100% sure that it wont happen next time we will be playing there.

 

Our away game has not been good but our toughest games has mostly been away so far.

 

True about our away games also being our toughest fixtures.

Not sure about Villa being more experienced. The commentators repeatedly pointed out the youthfulness of the villa side - the average age was something like 23. For instance, it was both Benteke and Weimann's first visits to Anfield.

You are right, though, that experience matters -and its something we miss and have not prioritised enough. Hopefully, we address it in Jan.

[Olallana]

how many of villa players had played at anfield before then../?

 

Without knowing (cause I dont follow Villa like that) but looking at their team sheet today I would say about 2/3 of the squad.....

[Turkish]

True about our away games also being our toughest fixtures.

Not sure about Villa being more experienced. The commentators repeatedly pointed out the youthfulness of the villa side - the average age was something like 23. For instance, it was both Benteke and Weimann's first visits to Anfield.

You are right, though, that experience matters -and its something we miss and have not prioritised enough. Hopefully, we address it in Jan.

 

It was the youngest Villa side to ever play in the premier league. Soccerball Saturday made that point several times.

[Turkish]

Yes they have.

 

And our captain has said that we will stay up, and you wouldn´t say that you know more about football than him, or would you??

 

Lol. Do you seriously think he would say he expects us to go down?!

[Olallana]

True about our away games also being our toughest fixtures.

Not sure about Villa being more experienced. The commentators repeatedly pointed out the youthfulness of the villa side - the average age was something like 23. For instance, it was both Benteke and Weimann's first visits to Anfield.

You are right, though, that experience matters -and its something we miss and have not prioritised enough. Hopefully, we address it in Jan.

 

That´s the thing and that´s not all about having it in the starting XI but in the squad I would say and we miss that in this level and that´s understandable since the club has moved from L1 to PL in two years....

[Turkish]

For me, Adam Lallanas view of it that it was a bit of stage fright makes perfect sense.

If you look at our team and for example Aston Villa today the difference is that most of their team has been at a stadium like Anfield before, our´s has not.

I am 100% sure that it wont happen next time we will be playing there.

 

Our away game has not been good but our toughest games has mostly been away so far.

 

So rather than taking the fact that it was our first game at Anfield and turn into into an inspiration for a great performance you're happy to accept it as an excuse not to turn up?

[Dibden Purlieu Saint]

Wonder if Tajjuk still thinks Benteke is **** and would still much prefer JRod.

[Olallana]

So rather than taking the fact that it was our first game at Anfield and turn into into an inspiration for a great performance you're happy to accept it as an excuse not to turn up?

 

That´s a bit harsh that you are accusing Lallana for making excuses after the game, dont you think?

 

For me, is was an explanation of why it went like it did, not an excuse to not perform.

[skintsaint]

Newcastle are in serious danger if being dragged into it. They won't go down ..

 

I thought that last time they were languishing down the bottom......hope history repeats itself.

[Lord Duckhunter]

The Liverpool game was disapointing because we didn't show up, I was more sick leaving that one than the drubbings at Arsenal and West ham . Had we started like we did at rangers we would have got something, they were there for the taking and it doesn't surprise me that someone (villa in this case) done them, they are pretty toothless. That said they were on the back of a decent run and beat West ham without their main man, away as well. Personally I think Adkins lost the plot at Liverpool, and that filtered down to the players. However to use villa's great result today as a tool to dig at the club is pathetic. Lubs have off days, managers have off days, other ****ty sides sometimes win where we have lost. Get over it...

 

Would have loved rangers to have chucked jt away today but they hung on. Pretty neutral set of results, game in hand don't mean a lot as it's Chelsea away. Next week is a must win imo

[Turkish]

The Liverpool game was disapointing because we didn't show up, I was more sick leaving that one than the drubbings at Arsenal and West ham . Had we started like we did at rangers we would have got something, they were there for the taking and it doesn't surprise me that someone (villa in this case) done them, they are pretty toothless. That said they were on the back of a decent run and beat West ham without their main man, away as well. Personally I think Adkins lost the plot at Liverpool, and that filtered down to the players. However to use villa's great result today as a tool to dig at the club is pathetic. Lubs have off days, managers have off days, other ****ty sides sometimes win where we have lost. Get over it...

 

Would have loved rangers to have chucked jt away today but they hung on. Pretty neutral set of results, game in hand don't mean a lot as it's Chelsea away. Next week is a must win imo

 

Why don't you actually read the posts and understand them. No one is using the Villa game today to have a go at the club. It's the simple fact that by our own captains admission we were overawed by being lucky enough you play at Anfield.Villa went there and attacked with purpose and scored 3 goals, we barely registered a meaningful attempt on goal. We get it, we cant play well every week. The problem some of us have is more to do with Premeir league footballers being filled with wonder at playing at the home of a midtable side and a team who had been below us going there and scoring more goals than we had meaningful shots only two weeks ago.it's a marked difference in attitude.

[Window Cleaner]

But did we play really good that day or did we play another team that played there for the first time and were worse than us?

 

And for the sake of it, how many of our players in the lineup at Anfield played at Wembley?

Fonte, Lallana, Schneiderlin and Lambert I guess?

 

 

Just the 3 of them, Morgan was injured at the time of the JPT