Speeding

[SNSUN]

I got flashed by a camera leaving Maidenhead in the summer, clear as day it flashed twice, and I regret to say I was doing roughly 50 in a 40. I never received a letter though.

 

I thought if it flashed twice, which I'm almost certain it did, then you were definitely getting a letter. Is that cobblers?

[derry]

I got flashed by a camera leaving Maidenhead in the summer, clear as day it flashed twice, and I regret to say I was doing roughly 50 in a 40. I never received a letter though.

 

I thought if it flashed twice, which I'm almost certain it did, then you were definitely getting a letter. Is that cobblers?

 

 

Probably no film in it. Happened to me at the A24/A272 xroads when I ran the amber light in the early hours, nothing else on the road, never heard anything.

[Bearsy]

Lols "film"! What year is this?

[derry]

Lols "film"! What year is this?

 

Early 90s

[Whitey Grandad]

Lols "film"! What year is this?

 

Digital images can be easily faked - ask Pap. I think the law has now been changed to allow them.

[mcjwills]

I got flashed by a camera leaving Maidenhead in the summer, clear as day it flashed twice, and I regret to say I was doing roughly 50 in a 40. I never received a letter though.

 

I thought if it flashed twice, which I'm almost certain it did, then you were definitely getting a letter. Is that cobblers?

 

Forget it there is a limit of 14 days when the registered owner has to be informed. Well past that you are clear to forget it, just be more careful and take it as a wake up call.

[tony13579]

A couple of points, the gatso cameras fit around 600 photos on a standard 35mm film.

 

Also if the op received two letters from plod requesting who was driving for both the correct and incorrect time within the14 days he MUST reply to both

[Lord Duckhunter]

For anyone interested, this was the outcome.

 

Sent the nip with the wrong time on back with "car not on road".

 

Received a letter back saying nip issued in error , error does not invalidate offense and enclosed amended nip with correct time on. Crucially, this was after 14 days had elapsed . Sent nip back with my details as driver on, but pointed out that the nip was "timed out" and invalid and did not fill in the bit which offers you a deal or court.

 

About a month later received another nip, with letter saying I needed to complete correctly . Sent a letter back saying that I refuse all offers , and will not enter into any further correspondence with them. I was told by someone to write " I will defend myself in court and if found not guilty will seek redress for a malicious prosecution . "

 

Heard nothing for ages, then received a letter saying " no further action".

 

Pretty pleased to have got away with it and saved myself points and money. I spoke to a copper about it and he surprised me by taking my side. He said that they have a duty to get all the paperwork 100% correct and its right that guilty people get off if they dont.

[trousers]

For anyone interested, this was the outcome.

 

Sent the nip with the wrong time on back with "car not on road".

 

Received a letter back saying nip issued in error , error does not invalidate offense and enclosed amended nip with correct time on. Crucially, this was after 14 days had elapsed . Sent nip back with my details as driver on, but pointed out that the nip was "timed out" and invalid and did not fill in the bit which offers you a deal or court.

 

About a month later received another nip, with letter saying I needed to complete correctly . Sent a letter back saying that I refuse all offers , and will not enter into any further correspondence with them. I was told by someone to write " I will defend myself in court and if found not guilty will seek redress for a malicious prosecution . "

 

Heard nothing for ages, then received a letter saying " no further action".

 

Pretty pleased to have got away with it and saved myself points and money. I spoke to a copper about it and he surprised me by taking my side. He said that they have a duty to get all the paperwork 100% correct and its right that guilty people get off if they dont.

 

You now have something in common with Harry Redknapp (alegedly). Every silver lining...

[EastleighSoulBoy]

Sometimes people aren't guilty. If I'm accused of speeding at 11am, then I'll fall into the not guilty pile. You seem to be saying that details of the time a speeding offense is committed is irrelavant. Perhaps the police should send out tickets to everyone on the basis that they would have broken the speed limit somewhen the past 6 months. "We have no evidence, but I'm sure you've broken the speed limit at some time, therefore please pay £60 fine and have 3 points." Would be a good money making scheme.

 

Your moral stance only comes into play if they have evidence that I was speeding at 9pm and then charge me.

 

I see your point until that last line which infers that at all other times it's ok to be amoral? Just wondering.

[EastleighSoulBoy]

I actually don't have a problem with many (not all) speed limits and cameras, there's no doubt in my mind that they have helped reduce the number of accidents. The OP is just questioning whether he can 'get away' without a fine due the error that has been made in the penalty notice. I think most of us would do the same. If it had been issued correctly he would probably have accepted it without question. Some people can speed simply through a lack of concentration rather than as a deliberate act.

 

Is this not 'driving without due care and attention' though? And yes, I've done it.

[stu0x]

Is this not 'driving without due care and attention' though? And yes, I've done it.

No.

[Saint-scooby]

I got caught last year, was offered the driver awareness, a morning well spent I will say, with the amount of miles I drive every year, bit of an eye opener....

[Wes Tender]

I've also had a driver awareness session. The cuplrit for the speeding offences was that mobile unit they periodically place on that grass triangle heading up the hill towards the Gatso at Bitterne. Apparently, even when you come around the bend at the foot of the hill, by the time you see it, it has already clocked you, so jammimg your feet on the anchors is a waste of time. I just don't go that way any more and instead head off home via Mousehole Lane.

 

By the by, although not speeding related, I once got a parking ticket rescinded by the courts on a technicality. I was parked opposite Debenhams at the foot of East Street on a Sunday and on that small stretch of road on the left hand side between the East Street Centre and the corner of Queensway, there are no parking restriction signs, but there is a single yellow line. I challenged the ticket on the basis that I thought that parking on a single yellow would be allowed on a Sunday. The Council's correspondence arguing the toss soon filled a folder, as they took legal advice stating that I didn't have a leg to stand on, but I took it to the Ombudsman who found in my favour. Although the Council had large signs at various places around the City centre detailing the parking restrictions within the controlled zone, the Ombudsman accepted that motorists couldn't be expected to read them while concentrating on their driving and therefore it was the duty of the Council to place the parking times on a sign adjacent to the single line.

 

Needless to say, the bastards still haven't erected a parking times sign there, as they probably gain quite a bit of revenue from unsuspecting motorists who don't challenge the fine.