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Push to bring back standing at games


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im all for standing areas, means I can sit in peace without ppl telling me I have to stand to support my team properly. and might segregate the nutters from the norms & families and stop the fan on fan hate. the newer German grounds seem to have done this well, on both counts.

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Having been to both Everton & Liverpool this season & been amazed at the lack of atmosphere I am in favour of having a standing section with cheaper ticket prices I think a lot of working class fans have been priced out of Prem games & now don't regularly attend games.

 

It is in the interest of the governing body of football to create as safe standing section to encourage the sort of fan that wants to stand and sing at football the game is nothing without the passion & support of the fans & all seater grounds bring a sterile atmosphere to grounds football against a blank canvas is nothing the fans make the game.

 

Sure there needs to be enough seating for those that want it but also why should a fan that is happier standing be paying for a seat they dont want to use just 1 end behind the goal would be ideal & I feel sure it would generate a much more vocal support.

 

I was astounded at Anfield & Goddison by the lack of singing & support from the home fans it was a strange feeling being in a ground packed with 40,000 people sitting down & making no noise I can only assume that the cost of seeing a game is beyond the means of the typical football fan in that area at £42 for a ticket I can understand that.

 

I would be all for safe standing we need to look at the German league which is much healthier than ours they get big vocal crowds charging a fraction of what we pay & do not have the debt problems that blight our leagues.

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I'm happy to be proved wrong on this, but if I recall my college days correctly, modern all-seater stadia are steeper than traditional terracing. I've had a root around the office & can't find anything to prove it either way, but I'm 90% sure I'm right. But if you take St Marys as an example, the step down is about 450mm and about 600mm wide, a gradient of 1:1.3, I reckon the steps on the old Milton Rd terrace were something like 1:4 (75mm rise & a going of 300mm). Like I say, happy to be proved wrong, but when I'm jumping around like a screaming banshee when SRL scores his first prem hat-trick, I'd rather fall 3 inches, than 18 ;).

 

Definitely correct. In the early days of all-seaters, some clubs just bolted seats on to old terracing to meet the requirement. The view was terrible, because the slope was too shallow. The end opposite the supermarket at the old bolton ground was a good (bad) example if anyone remembers that. Fixed 'bucket' seats, not even tip-up seats, on very shallow terracing.

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I'm sure other people have a better idea about the technicalities and costings of all this but how practical/expensive would it be to convert one stand to the "safe standing" model? Personally i'm in favour of anything that helps lower, or at least keep down, prices and helps to create a good atmosphere at games.

 

Many lower league and non league seem to have three sides of stadia for standing and a seperate seating area at additional cost (my local club, weymouth, adds on £2 so hardly a fortune for anybody not keen or able to stand for a full 90) and it would be interesting to see if that could ever happen in the top flight ...

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  • 8 years later...
7 minutes ago, kwsaint said:

Looks like this could happen relatively soon? Government plans to lift football standing ban https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-58357046

While the government and football clubs have procrastinated over making a decision football fans have generally got on and decided for themselves, most grounds now have some home areas where fans stand, and virtually all away followings stand all game. 

Still good news that the authorities at least recognise that many people don't want to sit down at football and should be able to choose. 

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