Smirking_Saint Posted 25 June, 2013 Share Posted 25 June, 2013 To be honest, I'm pretty sure Hooper has been a club-wide target for ages - just as Jay Rodriguez was. Obviously he worked with Adkins etc, but he's a good player, so there's more reason to be after him. And it's pretty obvious that we don't sign players just on the managers decision, so if the manager does leave I can imagine the same targets stay in place - until the club has higher ambitions obviously. This is the importance of the committee, it ensures that a club is not lumbered with players that a new manager has no use for etc You only have to look at QPR to see this, three different managers and three different ideas. All three bought players that no other manager would be happy with, it is a disaster. Ive said before, Ill be happy with Hooper so long as the fee is under 5m Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 25 June, 2013 Share Posted 25 June, 2013 This is the importance of the committee, it ensures that a club is not lumbered with players that a new manager has no use for etc You only have to look at QPR to see this, three different managers and three different ideas. All three bought players that no other manager would be happy with, it is a disaster. Ive said before, Ill be happy with Hooper so long as the fee is under 5m Exactly, I don't think a transfer committee is a bad thing at all - as long as it's fair, i.e you don't get the chairman trampling over everyone to sign who he wants anyway. But I think ours is pretty fair and well thought out, all our targets are pretty well researched you'd have to say, and apart from a few duds (De Ridder/Dickson etc) on the whole our last few years have been pretty fruitful transfer wise (the players we've bought in have improved us anyway). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AussieDog Posted 25 June, 2013 Share Posted 25 June, 2013 Celtic do have TWO other english players in their 1st team squad..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted 25 June, 2013 Share Posted 25 June, 2013 Don't think Hooper is the right man for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supersubpuckett Posted 26 June, 2013 Share Posted 26 June, 2013 i think hooper would be a great buy for us, i hope we get him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 26 June, 2013 Share Posted 26 June, 2013 I don't buy our interest in him ended when Adkins left, the "transfer committee" have clearly had their eye on him for a while, Billy Sharp was clearly second choice to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 26 June, 2013 Share Posted 26 June, 2013 Exactly, I don't think a transfer committee is a bad thing at all - as long as it's fair, i.e you don't get the chairman trampling over everyone to sign who he wants anyway. But I think ours is pretty fair and well thought out, all our targets are pretty well researched you'd have to say, and apart from a few duds (De Ridder/Dickson etc) on the whole our last few years have been pretty fruitful transfer wise (the players we've bought in have improved us anyway). Mayuka? Tadanari Lee? It's been more good than bad, but there have been a few that haven't really worked out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MerceSaint28 Posted 26 June, 2013 Share Posted 26 June, 2013 Realistically guys...i think Hooper would of been a good signing last year but we are aiming for top 10 finish and i don't think he is the right guy for us. We need to push the boat and go for someone like Bony or Aubemang (St Etienne)...we definitely need more pace in the last third and i don't think Hooper is the right fit for us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldbarbarian Posted 26 June, 2013 Share Posted 26 June, 2013 I would be underwhelmed if we did sign Hooper this season. I may get shot down in flames but I think Aruna Kone would be a good signing for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 26 June, 2013 Share Posted 26 June, 2013 Im whelmed by the prospect of Hooper. Neither over nor under, just whelmed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxy Posted 26 June, 2013 Share Posted 26 June, 2013 I have a mate called Gary Hooper and, despite his own views to the contrary, he's no more than a pub player. Probably good enough for Scottish football though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MerceSaint28 Posted 26 June, 2013 Share Posted 26 June, 2013 Agreed...Kone would be a better signing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Johnson Posted 26 June, 2013 Share Posted 26 June, 2013 To be honest, with the kind of money being suggested for Hooper I'd rather move for a proven striker in the prem like Darren Bent, I know he's not everyone's cup of tea but you can't argue with his scoring record in the premiership. Hooper, despite his record in the SPL, is an unknown in the EPL and there's a marked difference in the quality of opposition. I'd of course welcome someone with such a fantastic scoring record, but I don't think it would be an "exciting" signing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Posted 26 June, 2013 Share Posted 26 June, 2013 To be honest, with the kind of money being suggested for Hooper I'd rather move for a proven striker in the prem like Darren Bent, I know he's not everyone's cup of tea but you can't argue with his scoring record in the premiership. Hooper, despite his record in the SPL, is an unknown in the EPL and there's a marked difference in the quality of opposition. I'd of course welcome someone with such a fantastic scoring record, but I don't think it would be an "exciting" signing Hooper over Bent any day of the week. I'd have Kevin Phillips over Bent, can't stand him. The vast majority of his goals are ones that are put on a plate and your nan could score, he probably scores 1 in 10 one on ones. Donkey. Plus he's one of them that would run to the corner giving it the big one even if one of his team mates had just skinned 5 players and laid it on a plate for him. Horrible player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Mikey Posted 26 June, 2013 Share Posted 26 June, 2013 I would be underwhelmed if we did sign Hooper this season. I may get shot down in flames but I think Aruna Kone would be a good signing for us. Agreed. I think he'd be a very good signing for us and he'd also be able to give Fonte his pants back... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucks Saint Posted 26 June, 2013 Share Posted 26 June, 2013 I have a mate called Gary Hooper and, despite his own views to the contrary, he's no more than a pub player. Probably good enough for Scottish football though. Interesting that the prospect of Wanyama joining was causing quite a level of excitement among many, based on nothing other than his Celtic career. But when it comes to a similar age player like Hooper, who has the advantage of being English, the standard of opposition is too rubbish to take him seriously Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raynesparksaint Posted 26 June, 2013 Share Posted 26 June, 2013 Hooper over Bent any day of the week. I'd have Kevin Phillips over Bent, can't stand him. The vast majority of his goals are ones that are put on a plate and your nan could score, he probably scores 1 in 10 one on ones. Donkey. Plus he's one of them that would run to the corner giving it the big one even if one of his team mates had just skinned 5 players and laid it on a plate for him. Horrible player. According to Arry, he actually misses chances that his nan could have scored Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxy Posted 26 June, 2013 Share Posted 26 June, 2013 Interesting that the prospect of Wanyama joining was causing quite a level of excitement among many, based on nothing other than his Celtic career. But when it comes to a similar age player like Hooper, who has the advantage of being English, the standard of opposition is too rubbish to take him seriously Ah, but saying Scottish football was ok actually wouldn't have worked from a humour perspective. Similarly, I haven't got a mate called Victor Wanyama. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucks Saint Posted 26 June, 2013 Share Posted 26 June, 2013 Ah, but saying Scottish football was ok actually wouldn't have worked from a humour perspective. Similarly, I haven't got a mate called Victor Wanyama. Worry not, I spotted the humour, but its a serious point aimed at quite a few people: Scottish football is pants until they like the sound of someone in which case its totally forgotten Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgeweahscousin Posted 26 June, 2013 Share Posted 26 June, 2013 I would like to think that our interest in Hooper ended when Adkins left. There is a reason the other clubs interested are Hull, Reading and Forest. Considering the amount Celtic want I think it is too much of a gamble. 19 goals in the SPL and 4 in the CL last season (against crap). Not that impressive really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 26 June, 2013 Share Posted 26 June, 2013 I would like to think that our interest in Hooper ended when Adkins left. There is a reason the other clubs interested are Hull, Reading and Forest. Considering the amount Celtic want I think it is too much of a gamble. 19 goals in the SPL and 4 in the CL last season (against crap). Not that impressive really. but wanyama is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgeweahscousin Posted 26 June, 2013 Share Posted 26 June, 2013 (edited) but wanyama is? I like what I've seen of Wanyama, but he is definitely overpriced. Never go above £5 million for an SPL player would be my rule. The chance of flop is high. ...from what I've heard the transfer fee wasn't the biggest worry with Wanyama. Basic salary he wanted was obscene apparently. Edited 26 June, 2013 by georgeweahscousin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pingwing Posted 26 June, 2013 Share Posted 26 June, 2013 Never go above £5 million for an SPL player would be my rule. The chance of flop is high. I like the sound of that rule, though how many did Hooper get in the champions league? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faz Posted 26 June, 2013 Share Posted 26 June, 2013 To be honest, with the kind of money being suggested for Hooper I'd rather move for a proven striker in the prem like Darren Bent, I know he's not everyone's cup of tea but you can't argue with his scoring record in the premiership. Hooper, despite his record in the SPL, is an unknown in the EPL and there's a marked difference in the quality of opposition. I'd of course welcome someone with such a fantastic scoring record, but I don't think it would be an "exciting" signing Bent had his chance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 26 June, 2013 Share Posted 26 June, 2013 When will we ever stop trying to get ****ing Celtic players? If they did **** all in Europe with Celtic what are they going to do when we get there? Cortese is losing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 26 June, 2013 Share Posted 26 June, 2013 When will we ever stop trying to get ****ing Celtic players? If they did **** all in Europe with Celtic what are they going to do when we get there? Cortese is losing it. **** all in Europe by beating Barcelona. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pingwing Posted 26 June, 2013 Share Posted 26 June, 2013 **** all in Europe by beating Barcelona. Wasn't that all Fraiser Forster being a beast... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucks Saint Posted 26 June, 2013 Share Posted 26 June, 2013 Wasn't that all Fraiser Forster being a beast... yeah, right. One man team beats Barca, no wonder the Catalan media went nuts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pingwing Posted 26 June, 2013 Share Posted 26 June, 2013 yeah, right. One man team beats Barca, no wonder the Catalan media went nuts Got to keep up with dismissing the SPL as a tinpot league with no good players and Celtic being good is all down to freak individual performances and nothing to do with sticking 10 men behind the ball and beating barca on the break. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 26 June, 2013 Share Posted 26 June, 2013 (edited) **** all in Europe by beating Barcelona. Oh, oh I see, what trophy did they get for that? You also understand that game was a massive fluke? How Barcelona failed to win that game with 66% possesion and had 25 shots to Celtics 3 is amazing, but well done Celtic and its a massive justification for us buying their players. You are also aware Celtic lost to Inverness and St Mirren? Edited 26 June, 2013 by Barry Sanchez Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 26 June, 2013 Share Posted 26 June, 2013 When will we ever stop trying to get ****ing Celtic players? If they did **** all in Europe with Celtic what are they going to do when we get there? Cortese is losing it. Yep, thats right, write him off already...b3llend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Kucho Posted 26 June, 2013 Share Posted 26 June, 2013 Yeah we shouldn't buy any players from the SPL whilst we are in the PL, look at Steve Davis, he's absolute rubbish:rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 26 June, 2013 Share Posted 26 June, 2013 Yeah we shouldn't buy any players from the SPL whilst we are in the PL, look at Steve Davis, he's absolute rubbish:rolleyes: No I believe I stated Celtic. Hooiveld Fox Point proved, case closed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 26 June, 2013 Share Posted 26 June, 2013 Yep, thats right, write him off already...b3llend. Write who off? And Mr Potty Mouth please put a pipe in it as your language is making you look a blurt of massive porportions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 26 June, 2013 Share Posted 26 June, 2013 Oh, oh I see, what trophy did they get for that? You also understand that game was a massive fluke? How Barcelona failed to win that game with 66% possesion and had 25 shots to Celtics 3 is amazing, but well done Celtic and its a massive justification for us buying their players. You are also aware Celtic lost to Inverness and St Mirren? I didn't say they won it, i responded to you saying they did **** all in Europe, they beat Barcelona and qualified for the last 16. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 26 June, 2013 Share Posted 26 June, 2013 No I believe I stated Celtic. Hooiveld Fox Point proved, case closed. Are Burnley in the SPL? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokyo-Saint Posted 26 June, 2013 Share Posted 26 June, 2013 Both players failed at Celtic, therefore signing Celtic's star player will be a disaster as well..... erm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 26 June, 2013 Share Posted 26 June, 2013 No I believe I stated Celtic. Hooiveld Fox Point proved, case closed. Both did a great job at the level we signed them at. Hell they've also filled in as best as they can when they've been called upon. Not Fox's fault he's not great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 26 June, 2013 Share Posted 26 June, 2013 I didn't say they won it, i responded to you saying they did **** all in Europe, they beat Barcelona and qualified for the last 16. Oh thats justifys signing him then? They did **** all in Europe, that is what I am saying, they quialified via luck and their home crowd, not through skill. To use they beat Barcelona to advocate a signing is ****ing simplistic and reckless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 26 June, 2013 Share Posted 26 June, 2013 Both did a great job at the level we signed them at. Hell they've also filled in as best as they can when they've been called upon. Not Fox's fault he's not great. So we sign another player from the level they were playing and see if they will handle it in a higher one? Belting policy that and one that costs an awful lot more. Naive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 26 June, 2013 Share Posted 26 June, 2013 (edited) Both players failed at Celtic, therefore signing Celtic's star player will be a disaster as well..... erm Scott Brown is their most important player, we are just overpaying for average players (not enough known on Wanyama), Hooiveld and Fox were rejects and as it turns out Celtic are well laughing at us and probably cant wait to do business with us again. Edited 26 June, 2013 by Barry Sanchez Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 26 June, 2013 Share Posted 26 June, 2013 Are Burnley in the SPL? No Burnley are not in the SPL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokyo-Saint Posted 26 June, 2013 Share Posted 26 June, 2013 Scott Brown is their most important player, we are just overpaying for average players, Hooiveld and Fox were rejects and as it turns out Celtic are well laughing at us and probably cant wait to do business with us again. Scott Brown is the captain and talisman but is not their best or most important player by a long way. He is more like their Marden, we are buying or at least might be buying, their Bridge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hopkins Posted 26 June, 2013 Share Posted 26 June, 2013 Scott Brown is their most important player, we are just overpaying for average players (not enough known on Wanyama), Hooiveld and Fox were rejects and as it turns out Celtic are well laughing at us and probably cant wait to do business with us again. I'm currently living with a Celtic fan and can confirm that Scott Brown is far from their most important player. Wanyama is an absloute beast for them and was pretty immense against Barca and the rest of Europe apparently. He's gutted about losing him and even more gutted about losing both him and Hooper in the same season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotonist Posted 26 June, 2013 Share Posted 26 June, 2013 Scott Brown is the captain and talisman but is not their best or most important player by a long way. He is more like their Marden, we are buying or at least might be buying, their Bridge. This seems like a fantastic idea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 26 June, 2013 Share Posted 26 June, 2013 Write who off? And Mr Potty Mouth please put a pipe in it as your language is making you look a blurt of massive porportions. Pot kettle black Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 26 June, 2013 Share Posted 26 June, 2013 I'm currently living with a Celtic fan and can confirm that Scott Brown is far from their most important player. Wanyama is an absloute beast for them and was pretty immense against Barca and the rest of Europe apparently. He's gutted about losing him and even more gutted about losing both him and Hooper in the same season. Sorry Hopkins housemate can confirm Scott Brown is not the most important player at Celtic, I apologize for this confusion........................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucks Saint Posted 26 June, 2013 Share Posted 26 June, 2013 Got to keep up with dismissing the SPL as a tinpot league with no good players and Celtic being good is all down to freak individual performances and nothing to do with sticking 10 men behind the ball and beating barca on the break. Woosh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 26 June, 2013 Share Posted 26 June, 2013 Pot kettle black Car Bus Lorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintstr1 Posted 1 July, 2013 Share Posted 1 July, 2013 A lot of reports here this morning that Norwich are close to signing Hooper for 4.5Million , At that he is a absolute gift. Come on NC get your act together Hooper would be a perfect foil for SRL. A similar bid plus a makewieght player such as De Ridder , Chaplow etc would surely bring hooper to St Marys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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