Fitzhugh Fella Posted 9 December, 2012 Share Posted 9 December, 2012 Apologies for starting a new thread on JP when there is one still active, but that one is not addressing the fact that next month he is free to talk to other clubs as his contract expires in the summer. On that thread someone (ITK?) is claiming that Punch has not had a new contract offer, a fact if true, and I think it is, to be worth a a thread on its own. To add further fuel to the debate, the respected PA journalist and Saints fan, Simon Peach has today, on his twitter feed, said that when interviewing JP after the Reading match one subject he did not want to dwell on was any new contract offer. So has the club decided its "thanks and goodbye", or has Puncheon decided to look for pastures new? He once crossed NC and got a second chance which suited both parties but... was there a decision or agreement made then that there would be a parting of the way when his contract run its course. My view is that it would be a shame to lose a player who is talented and becoming increasingly influential because of a spat that was solved........ albeit superficially. The club love to announce extensions of contracts but on this issue the silence is deafening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenridge Posted 9 December, 2012 Share Posted 9 December, 2012 So has the club decided its "thanks and goodbye", or has Puncheon decided to look for pastures new? He once crossed NC and got a second chance which suited both parties but... was there a decision or agreement made then that there would be a parting of the way when his contract run its course. Only a handful of people - NC, NA, JP, his agent etc - would know the answers to these questions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobM Posted 9 December, 2012 Share Posted 9 December, 2012 Only a handful of people - NC, NA, JP, his agent etc - would know the answers to these questions. You've kinda missed the point of a discussion forum there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 9 December, 2012 Share Posted 9 December, 2012 You get that little kick in there What peachy has said doesnt mean he has or hasnt been offered a contract, and english teams cannot talk to any players under a contract so cant talk officially until end of the season, and yes I know that means nothing in reality. Alternatively maybe we have a replacement lined up ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobM Posted 9 December, 2012 Share Posted 9 December, 2012 I think both Saints and JP will wait this one out. If and when he can talk to other clubs, Saints might want to see how committed he is. If he wants to play for us and we want to keep him, it will be just as easy to wrap that up now as it will be in 6-months time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 9 December, 2012 Share Posted 9 December, 2012 No doubt Cortese's fault hey Duncan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 9 December, 2012 Share Posted 9 December, 2012 (edited) Apologies for starting a new thread on JP when there is one still active, but that one is not addressing the fact that next month he is free to talk to other clubs as his contract expires in the summer. On that thread someone (ITK?) is claiming that Punch has not had a new contract offer, a fact if true, and I think it is, to be worth a a thread on its own. To add further fuel to the debate, the respected PA journalist and Saints fan, Simon Peach has today, on his twitter feed, said that when interviewing JP after the Reading match one subject he did not want to dwell on was any new contract offer. So has the club decided its "thanks and goodbye", or has Puncheon decided to look for pastures new? He once crossed NC and got a second chance which suited both parties but... was there a decision or agreement made then that there would be a parting of the way when his contract run its course. My view is that it would be a shame to lose a player who is talented and becoming increasingly influential because of a spat that was solved........ albeit superficially. The club love to announce extensions of contracts but on this issue the silence is deafening. Wow, you have a real bee in your bonnet about this one dont you ? Whilst you are correct that the club do love to anounce contract extensions and whilst its true that Puncheon can talk to other clubs in a months time am I not correct in thinking that his contract, despite that, still has 7 months to run ? It doesnt expire on 31 December, it expires on 30 June. He scored the winner yesterday sure, he has looked a decent player in a fair few matches this season yes but he isnt exactly THE man in a one man team is he ? Lets just see what happens with him in the next few months shall we ? Both on and off the pitch that is ! You do have a to slip your usual negative in regularly dont you Duncan ? Shame cos you are obviously an intelligent fella....and yes I did buy your book Edited 9 December, 2012 by beatlesaint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smithy Posted 9 December, 2012 Share Posted 9 December, 2012 You get that little kick in there What peachy has said doesnt mean he has or hasnt been offered a contract, and english teams cannot talk to any players under a contract so cant talk officially until end of the season, and yes I know that means nothing in reality. Alternatively maybe we have a replacement lined up ? Matt Phillips? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 9 December, 2012 Share Posted 9 December, 2012 Matt Phillips? No idea, just a thought. On another note FF what exactly did you want the club to come out and say ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenridge Posted 9 December, 2012 Share Posted 9 December, 2012 You've kinda missed the point of a discussion forum there. You're of course right Rob. May be it should have been phrased 'can we call speculate....' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 9 December, 2012 Share Posted 9 December, 2012 Puncheon won't tell Simon Peach much, they had a little spat on Twitter a few months ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 9 December, 2012 Share Posted 9 December, 2012 (edited) The fact that next month he is free to talk to other clubs as his contract expires in the summer. He can only talk to foreign clubs from January. Would a foreign club sign him? English clubs can only talk to him much closer to the end of June. The club love to announce extensions of contracts but on this issue the silence is deafening. They also only announce them when they are done, it is still only the 9th December, for all we know Puncheon's agent might be at St Mary's now discussing it with Cortese! Given Puncheon is starting games regularly at the moment, I think it would be unlikely Saints wouldn't offer him a new deal. Edited 9 December, 2012 by Matthew Le God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrant Posted 9 December, 2012 Share Posted 9 December, 2012 Given Puncheon is a first choice at the moment, I think it would be unlikely Saints wouldn't offer him a new deal. Kelvin Davis is a first choice at the moment, but I'd be absolutely amazed if we offered him another playing contract once his current one expires. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 9 December, 2012 Share Posted 9 December, 2012 (edited) Kelvin Davis is a first choice at the moment, but I'd be absolutely amazed if we offered him another playing contract once his current one expires. Davis isn't first choice at the moment, Gazzaniga is first choice when all the keepers are available. Okay, add to my original statement given he is first choice, only 26 years old, has sell on value if under contract and is performing well in the Premier League. None of which can really be applied to Kelvin Davis. Edited 9 December, 2012 by Matthew Le God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doggface Posted 9 December, 2012 Share Posted 9 December, 2012 I think we will sign him up. We have handled renewals impeccably since nc was in charge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 9 December, 2012 Share Posted 9 December, 2012 We have handled renewals impeccably since nc was in charge. Generally yes, but giving Harding, Hammond and Butterfield extensions wasn't the best idea imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graffito Posted 9 December, 2012 Share Posted 9 December, 2012 "The only thing I worry about is putting on the Southampton shirt and performing week in week out" http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2245423/Southampton-says-Jason-Puncheon.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norwaysaint Posted 9 December, 2012 Share Posted 9 December, 2012 Kelvin Davis is a first choice at the moment, but I'd be absolutely amazed if we offered him another playing contract once his current one expires. Do you really think that comparison bears out? Kelvin Davis who is struggling to make the position his own and has been patchy when he has played is in the same situation as puncheon who has been an ever present, easily the first choice for his position and a major part of our more successful performances this season? Okay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbojones10 Posted 9 December, 2012 Share Posted 9 December, 2012 It would be a howler to not sort this out before jan and i assume if by the end of jan the contract hasnt been renewed that he will leave at the end of the season. I think he's been sensational at times this season and would be a huge error not to sort this out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colbury Posted 9 December, 2012 Share Posted 9 December, 2012 Puncheon won't tell Simon Peach much, they had a little spat on Twitter a few months ago. Peach is clueless anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SB Posted 9 December, 2012 Share Posted 9 December, 2012 Can I be first to claim that I said he wouldn't be getting a contract offer, I'm ITK now, so rather than pm's just follow me on twitter @agentSB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UpweySaint Posted 9 December, 2012 Share Posted 9 December, 2012 I think his circumstances have changed somewhat since the start of the season when, most of us, assumed he was not in the side and would go at the end of the contract. I think perhaps, again pure speculation, he was told clean slate and a contract was his to earn. Arguably he has earnt it and we've earnt him signing up after sticking with him and giving him a fair crack at the prem (not every manager does second chances!). No panic just yet, imagine it'l all get sorted later on ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Who? Posted 9 December, 2012 Share Posted 9 December, 2012 I think there is some kind of agreement that he gets to play and is not left out in the cold. He gives his all, and get himself in the shop window for the summer. Saints will release him. Hadly been a relationship made in heaven, but he is doing well at the moment. Who knows I am just guessing, but he could end up with a deal on the table, if he keeps performing as he is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucks Saint Posted 9 December, 2012 Share Posted 9 December, 2012 As if the media or anyone on here would know what Cortese is doing on contract talks! Rest easy people.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 9 December, 2012 Share Posted 9 December, 2012 There is a lot of time before his contract expires. He is playing for his future and is playing well - suits everyone at the moment. Would Saints offer him a new deal - unsure Would he accept one - unsure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 9 December, 2012 Share Posted 9 December, 2012 I think there is some kind of agreement that he gets to play and is not left out in the cold. He gives his all, and get himself in the shop window for the summer. Saints will release him. Hadly been a relationship made in heaven, but he is doing well at the moment. Who knows I am just guessing, but he could end up with a deal on the table, if he keeps performing as he is. Lol, why would we do a deal like that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 9 December, 2012 Share Posted 9 December, 2012 Can I be first to claim that I said he wouldn't be getting a contract offer, I'm ITK now, so rather than pm's just follow me on twitter @agentSB You didnt even know who Will Hughes was Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wild-saint Posted 9 December, 2012 Share Posted 9 December, 2012 Apologies for starting a new thread on JP when there is one still active, but that one is not addressing the fact that next month he is free to talk to other clubs as his contract expires in the summer. On that thread someone (ITK?) is claiming that Punch has not had a new contract offer, a fact if true, and I think it is, to be worth a a thread on its own. To add further fuel to the debate, the respected PA journalist and Saints fan, Simon Peach has today, on his twitter feed, said that when interviewing JP after the Reading match one subject he did not want to dwell on was any new contract offer. So has the club decided its "thanks and goodbye", or has Puncheon decided to look for pastures new? He once crossed NC and got a second chance which suited both parties but... was there a decision or agreement made then that there would be a parting of the way when his contract run its course. My view is that it would be a shame to lose a player who is talented and becoming increasingly influential because of a spat that was solved........ albeit superficially. The club love to announce extensions of contracts but on this issue the silence is deafening. yes the club loves to announce comtract extensions. what they dont do is announce that they are in discussion with a player over a new contract. so whats the difference here, other than nothing has been finalised either way? if and when its agreed it will be announced, no? otherwise there will be silence from the club. so suggesting the silence is deafening is acutaly a bed wetting comment trying to focus on a negative imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 9 December, 2012 Author Share Posted 9 December, 2012 (edited) yes the club loves to announce comtract extensions. what they dont do is announce that they are in discussion with a player over a new contract. so whats the difference here, other than nothing has been finalised either way? if and when its agreed it will be announced, no? otherwise there will be silence from the club. so suggesting the silence is deafening is acutaly a bed wetting comment trying to focus on a negative imo. The club never leave it this late - if you read my post properly you would have seen that. Your bed wetting remark is pretty unnecessary - why don't you try and just and debate without insults? Edited 9 December, 2012 by Fitzhugh Fella Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint-Armstrong Posted 9 December, 2012 Share Posted 9 December, 2012 He definitely hasn't even had a casual conversation with any club 'supremos' about a new deal. Not a jot. Maybe it's in everyone's best interests for Jason to have a good season and move on...? He can start fresh elsewhere and Saints can continue to build and progress? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 9 December, 2012 Author Share Posted 9 December, 2012 No doubt Cortese's fault hey Duncan? I don't know, that's why I posed the question on here. Sorry if it offends or upsets you. I thought the fact that the most influential player over the last few months could leave us for nothing v shortly was something that could be debated without accusations of agendas. Obviously I am wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 9 December, 2012 Author Share Posted 9 December, 2012 Wow, you have a real bee in your bonnet about this one dont you ? Whilst you are correct that the club do love to anounce contract extensions and whilst its true that Puncheon can talk to other clubs in a months time am I not correct in thinking that his contract, despite that, still has 7 months to run ? It doesnt expire on 31 December, it expires on 30 June. He scored the winner yesterday sure, he has looked a decent player in a fair few matches this season yes but he isnt exactly THE man in a one man team is he ? Lets just see what happens with him in the next few months shall we ? Both on and off the pitch that is ! You do have a to slip your usual negative in regularly dont you Duncan ? Shame cos you are obviously an intelligent fella....and yes I did buy your book Bee in my bonnet? No I think this is the first time I have commented on Puncheon's contract but don't let this get in the way of having a dig at whatever I say. Thanks for buying the book but I would have hoped you would then have realised I only care about the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krissyboy31 Posted 9 December, 2012 Share Posted 9 December, 2012 Maybe he's on trial? Prove to us you are worth a new contract and we'll give you one! Let's face it, none of us would have been advocating it 12 months ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wild-saint Posted 9 December, 2012 Share Posted 9 December, 2012 The club never leave it this late - if you read my post properly you would have seen that. Your bed wetting remark is pretty unnecessary - why don't you try and just and debate without insults? well clearly in the usual circumstances theynwouldnt leave it this late. however upto aroun 15 games ago he didnt really even feature in the future plans let alone the team. the question now is if we extend his comtract is he likely to fall into his old ways when /if we get competition in on the right flank and he finds himself out of the first team. i would imagine that is the million dollar question that the saints have to answer. he was never going to be offered a new contract and we are clearly running down to the end of the season, althou current form is clearly going to give us a moment of pause before we decide either way. maybe they will leave it u till the end of the season to see how committed he really is when other offers are on the table? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulwantsapint Posted 9 December, 2012 Share Posted 9 December, 2012 It is a big gamble for both parties Punch signs new contract now JP + future sorted no matter what happens form/injury SFC + future sorted JP - could play brilliant & have been offered better deal SFC - form/injury/attitude problems Punch/saints waits JP + gets better deal offered SFC + loss of form/injury/attitude jp plays to convince JP - bad 2nd half season worse deal offered SFC - jp gets better offer elsewhere Personally would be tempted to offer deal with with for arguement sake £5m buy out clause Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainchris Posted 9 December, 2012 Share Posted 9 December, 2012 He definitely hasn't even had a casual conversation with any club 'supremos' about a new deal. Not a jot. Maybe it's in everyone's best interests for Jason to have a good season and move on...? He can start fresh elsewhere and Saints can continue to build and progress? I was a JP doubter for sure but since his rapid maturing his game has come in immeasurably. He is now playing very well indeed - to so casually dismiss the idea of keeping him now is blind madness. It is blatantly not 'in everyones interest' to let him go........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 9 December, 2012 Share Posted 9 December, 2012 You get that little kick in there What peachy has said doesnt mean he has or hasnt been offered a contract, and english teams cannot talk to any players under a contract so cant talk officially until end of the season, and yes I know that means nothing in reality. Alternatively maybe we have a replacement lined up ? Players out of contract in the summer can talk to other clubs from the January preceding the end of the contract. Theo Walcott is in exactly the same position with Arsenal. I suspect what is happening is that Wenger is lining up a straight swap, Theo for Punch. Frankly I'm not completely sure who would be the winner any more, but suspect as Walcott is on £75k per week I guess Punch would be up for a little pay rise. Really not that surprised we have not extended Punch's contract yet, but I don't see anything to be concerned about. There is little evidence that anyone else would be in for him although I suspect Arry will be linked as he is with every Tom & **** even though it would be odd for Punch to go back to QPR. Given what many people thought of Punch even 6 months ago it is quite funny that now folks are fretting over whether we have signed the lad up or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corsacar saint Posted 9 December, 2012 Share Posted 9 December, 2012 Duncan asked a valid question,but some of you on here,seem to see hidden agendas into everything he says on here. If some of you cared about the club as much as him fair enough,but I very much doubt you do. As I understood his question,he wants Punch to be here for the foreseeable future and is perfectly within his rights to ask the question,had it been most other posters,they would not be queried at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dellman Posted 9 December, 2012 Share Posted 9 December, 2012 Is the club expected to conduct its negotiations in public for the sake of fans, thank goodness we are now properly run and the only people ITK are those directly concerned. I'm happy to await the outcome NC and NA have already achieved more with Jason P than anyone could have imagined a year ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 9 December, 2012 Share Posted 9 December, 2012 I don't know, that's why I posed the question on here. Sorry if it offends or upsets you. I thought the fact that the most influential player over the last few months could leave us for nothing v shortly was something that could be debated without accusations of agendas. Obviously I am wrong. I just asked a question. No agenda here. I just want what's best for the club Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 9 December, 2012 Share Posted 9 December, 2012 Maybe he's on trial? Prove to us you are worth a new contract and we'll give you one! This would be my guess. Rightly or wrongly Puncheon has a reputation for going off the boil when not playing for a new contract. Reading between the lines in his interviews this season I think he's matured in that respect but wouldn't surprise me if he's on a promise of a decent new contract if he helps the club stay in the premier league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AussieDog Posted 9 December, 2012 Share Posted 9 December, 2012 I can't deny he has proved value for money this season, but it will take more than a dozen or so games for me to dismiss his previous histrionics from my mind. I'm happy for him to earn his wages (and the wages he took and didn't deserve when he was acting like a plank) until the end of the season, but I won't miss him if he goes. It's good to see he can knuckle down if he applies himself. I wonder what was said that caused the change of heart by both him and the management last season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 9 December, 2012 Share Posted 9 December, 2012 Players out of contract in the summer can talk to other clubs from the January preceding the end of the contract. Theo Walcott is in exactly the same position with Arsenal. I suspect what is happening is that Wenger is lining up a straight swap, Theo for Punch. Frankly I'm not completely sure who would be the winner any more, but suspect as Walcott is on £75k per week I guess Punch would be up for a little pay rise. Really not that surprised we have not extended Punch's contract yet, but I don't see anything to be concerned about. There is little evidence that anyone else would be in for him although I suspect Arry will be linked as he is with every Tom & **** even though it would be odd for Punch to go back to QPR. Given what many people thought of Punch even 6 months ago it is quite funny that now folks are fretting over whether we have signed the lad up or not. I agree with the rest but English teams are not allowed to talk to english players, albeit officially (which means squat) until near the end of that contract, and thats within 3 months maybe less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry the Badger Posted 10 December, 2012 Share Posted 10 December, 2012 The trouble with Punch is that when he's in the team he's all sweetness and light, but Adkins knows from experience that he doesnt react well to being left out. Although he's playing really well I could still see his position coming under threat if we stayed up, and perhaps the club know it would be better to let him move on as he does not have the attitude to become a squad player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 10 December, 2012 Share Posted 10 December, 2012 I remember when we were in league one we didn't renew contracts until near the end of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolan Posted 10 December, 2012 Share Posted 10 December, 2012 Surely Puncheon doesn't want to get on the wrong side of Cortese again. Its very sensible for him to not want to talk publicly about. contracts Sent from my Lumia 800 using Board Express Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 10 December, 2012 Share Posted 10 December, 2012 Duncan asked a valid question,but some of you on here,seem to see hidden agendas into everything he says on here. If some of you cared about the club as much as him fair enough,but I very much doubt you do. As I understood his question,he wants Punch to be here for the foreseeable future and is perfectly within his rights to ask the question,had it been most other posters,they would not be queried at all. Its not like we already had a thread on puncheon and this subject anyway was it ? It wasnt the question, it is, in essence a valid question but TBH the boy has been a pain since he got to Saints, is going through a purple patch atm I know but how long will it last ? Are we looking at or have lined up quality improvements ? Perhaps you need to ask why people jump onto FF's posts, as much as many of the posters that get pounced on this site will moan and kick up a fuss that occasionally the man and not the ball is played, there is always reason. And generally FF only really starts a thread if he has a snippet of information that could further damage the management teams reputation, is that putting the clubs best interests at heart ? Is that remaining objective ? I also take offence to someone saying a certain person loves the club over 100s of people you have never met, you do not know mine nor anyone elses affinity to saints, and certainly I would not post any thinly veiled agenda ridden tripe in order to sway people against our current chairman. If I had something I deemed worthy of news, in the respect of one of the management team doing something to the detriment of saints Id have the balls to come out and outright say it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 10 December, 2012 Share Posted 10 December, 2012 The trouble with Punch is that when he's in the team he's all sweetness and light, but Adkins knows from experience that he doesnt react well to being left out. Although he's playing really well I could still see his position coming under threat if we stayed up, and perhaps the club know it would be better to let him move on as he does not have the attitude to become a squad player. Why do people see this as a bad thing? I'd be more worried about a player who reacted well to being left out. It's a squad game these days and you need 20 odd good players to get you through a season. I'm sure any player would understand this, but I don't see how players not being pleased they aren't playing is a bad thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a1ex2001 Posted 10 December, 2012 Share Posted 10 December, 2012 Is the club expected to conduct its negotiations in public for the sake of fans, thank goodness we are now properly run and the only people ITK are those directly concerned. I'm happy to await the outcome NC and NA have already achieved more with Jason P than anyone could have imagined a year ago Clearly yes, the only way to satisfy some of the people on this forum would be for the club to publish details of all offers and counter offers and allow us to decide by poll if the terms are acceptable to the fan base or not. The same should be done for all transfers, even if an agent is just offering us a look at some dodgy no name from eastern Europe we the fans should know and get to decide how the deal progresses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 10 December, 2012 Author Share Posted 10 December, 2012 Its not like we already had a thread on puncheon and this subject anyway was it ? It wasnt the question, it is, in essence a valid question but TBH the boy has been a pain since he got to Saints, is going through a purple patch atm I know but how long will it last ? Are we looking at or have lined up quality improvements ? Perhaps you need to ask why people jump onto FF's posts, as much as many of the posters that get pounced on this site will moan and kick up a fuss that occasionally the man and not the ball is played, there is always reason. And generally FF only really starts a thread if he has a snippet of information that could further damage the management teams reputation, is that putting the clubs best interests at heart ? Is that remaining objective ? I also take offence to someone saying a certain person loves the club over 100s of people you have never met, you do not know mine nor anyone elses affinity to saints, and certainly I would not post any thinly veiled agenda ridden tripe in order to sway people against our current chairman. If I had something I deemed worthy of news, in the respect of one of the management team doing something to the detriment of saints Id have the balls to come out and outright say it. Your handle sort of sums your post up. But just to clear things up I started this thread because I am genuinely intrigued that Puncheon's contract is nearly expired. How you deduce from that that I am attempting to damage the management team's reputation actually says more about you than it does me. And if you think I post thinly veiled agenda ridden tripe why do you bother to then contribute to it. Why don't you just ignore what i post. Serious question - or secretly can't you help youself? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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