jawillwill Posted 8 December, 2012 Posted 8 December, 2012 What's the verdict? Knee injuries can be bad, but at least he could walk off so maybe more precautionary... I suppose if he had to get injured, today is an OK match to do it with a 2 weeks break coming up.
alpine_saint Posted 8 December, 2012 Posted 8 December, 2012 I seem to recall from past incidents he seems to be gifted with remakrable recuperational (sp?) powers
Smirking_Saint Posted 8 December, 2012 Posted 8 December, 2012 Ive torn my cruciate twice, and both times managed to walk off the pitch so not always an indication
BotleySaint Posted 8 December, 2012 Posted 8 December, 2012 2 weeks till our next game so it's a good a time as any to be injured.
Dalek2003 Posted 8 December, 2012 Posted 8 December, 2012 Important he came off straight away. We will find out Monday no doubt.
Glasgow_Saint Posted 8 December, 2012 Posted 8 December, 2012 Fingers crossed, hes been fantastic last 6 games
the wedge Posted 8 December, 2012 Posted 8 December, 2012 Left ground on crutches and in a leg brace. As a precaution.
Roger Posted 8 December, 2012 Posted 8 December, 2012 Fingers crossed, hes been fantastic last 6 games Was very good vs qpr and newcastle, poor vs norwich and liverpool was one of his worst games in the shirt.
red&white56 Posted 8 December, 2012 Posted 8 December, 2012 Was very good vs qpr and newcastle, poor vs norwich and liverpool was one of his worst games in the shirt. I don't think he was poor againt Norwich, but he certainly was not at his best. Can't say againt Liverppol as I didn't see that game.
S-Clarke Posted 8 December, 2012 Posted 8 December, 2012 His knee seemed to twist, one of those innocuous injuries. 2 week break is good timing, but I doubt we'll see him again this year based on what I saw close up.
Saint Garrett Posted 8 December, 2012 Posted 8 December, 2012 Wouldn't be surprised if its a couple of months but fingers crossed its just a little tweak!
david in sweden Posted 8 December, 2012 Posted 8 December, 2012 Hope he's back soon but ..however long the absence, I thought the "alternative " midfield looked OK.... .and we still had JWP on the Bench.
Chez Posted 8 December, 2012 Posted 8 December, 2012 worrying. We don't have any cover there at all IMO. I thought Ramirez did well, really driving hard at the fullback, but he's not a left midfielder and left Shaw exposed a few times.
Gemmel Posted 8 December, 2012 Posted 8 December, 2012 Maya Yoshida left St Mary's on crutches, as did Adam Lallana whose knee is in a brace while N Adkins confirmed Gazzaniga faces a spell out.
Dalek2003 Posted 8 December, 2012 Posted 8 December, 2012 Maya Yoshida left St Mary's on crutches, as did Adam Lallana whose knee is in a brace while N Adkins confirmed Gazzaniga faces a spell out. **** a brick !
Horley CTFC Saint Posted 8 December, 2012 Posted 8 December, 2012 Ive torn my cruciate twice, and both times managed to walk off the pitch so not always an indication Correct its the twisting thats the problem - if he's done a cruciate he probably knows it though
Saint_clark Posted 9 December, 2012 Posted 9 December, 2012 Could tell from the scream alone that he'd done some damage.
Barry the Badger Posted 9 December, 2012 Posted 9 December, 2012 He looked really ****ed off when walking off.
the stain Posted 9 December, 2012 Posted 9 December, 2012 Could tell from the scream alone that he'd done some damage. What sort of scream was it?
the stain Posted 9 December, 2012 Posted 9 December, 2012 Go to the muppet show if you don't want to discuss the football properly.
Barry the Badger Posted 9 December, 2012 Posted 9 December, 2012 Go to the muppet show if you don't want to discuss the football properly. I think somebody is a bit over tired.
InvictaSaint Posted 9 December, 2012 Posted 9 December, 2012 Munch ado about nothing if you ask me....
Tokyo-Saint Posted 9 December, 2012 Posted 9 December, 2012 Go to the muppet show if you don't want to discuss the football properly. Are you saying we don't discuss football properly in the muppet show?
the stain Posted 9 December, 2012 Posted 9 December, 2012 You lot can have all the fun you want and laugh yourselves to sleep each night. All I want to know is what sort of scream was it that came from Adams mouth? It's important for the team, for the fans and for Adam.
Tokyo-Saint Posted 9 December, 2012 Posted 9 December, 2012 Can you give some examples of the different options? We will choose from there. Thanks.
Turkish Posted 9 December, 2012 Posted 9 December, 2012 Maybe it would be easier if we made it multiple choice. Was it; A - A scream of delight B - a scream of despair C - a scream if you want to go faster D - a scream of terror, like when seeing a ghost or like the woman in the shower did in Psycho E - a totally different level of screams the type that only angels and dogs can hear
saint1977 Posted 9 December, 2012 Posted 9 December, 2012 Maya Yoshida left St Mary's on crutches, as did Adam Lallana whose knee is in a brace while N Adkins confirmed Gazzaniga faces a spell out. Oh feck - neither of those injuries is good news but Yoshida is worse as we are so thin for our CB cover. Hope both are precautionary.
Saint Martini Posted 9 December, 2012 Posted 9 December, 2012 Good thing we don't have a match next weekend. Plenty of time to recover from strained ligaments and a dead leg (wild guess on Yoshida's injury)
the stain Posted 9 December, 2012 Posted 9 December, 2012 Small scream = not serious injury, someone stepped on his toe medium scream = minor injury, maybe out for a couple of days large scream = pretty serious injury, out for a between 1-3 weeks very large scream = really serious, won't see him again this season
Turkish Posted 9 December, 2012 Posted 9 December, 2012 Small scream = not serious injury, someone stepped on his toe medium scream = minor injury, maybe out for a couple of days large scream = pretty serious injury, out for a between 1-3 weeks very large scream = really serious, won't see him again this season What if he's not naturally a screamer or alterntively he is a bit of a drama queen? For example my dad didn't scream when he had a car accident, yet he's fractured his pelvis. My sister let out s loud scream when she saw a spider but she was in no physical pain whatsoever. Let's put it out there to everyone We asked the mongbaord Does the sound of the scream dictate the extent of the injury??
CB Saint Posted 9 December, 2012 Posted 9 December, 2012 Well, is Adam fooked or not and if so, for how long.
the stain Posted 9 December, 2012 Posted 9 December, 2012 Small scream = not serious injury, someone stepped on his toe medium scream = minor injury, maybe out for a couple of days large scream = pretty serious injury, out for a between 1-3 weeks very large scream = really serious, won't see him again this season What if he's not naturally a screamer or alterntively he is a bit of a drama queen? For example my dad didn't scream when he had a car accident, yet he's fractured his pelvis. My sister let out s loud scream when she saw a spider but she was in no physical pain whatsoever Good point. We need a matrix with the size of the scream along one side and the how much of a drama queen the player is along the other then we can truly judge the nature of the injury. Drama queen status is as follows: Very large DQ - will scream loudly if the ball goes near him Large DQ - will scream if the ball hits his face medium DQ - will scream if the a player punches him small DQ - never shows any pain or emotion Size of scream: small. Medium. Large. Very large DQ status: very large large medium small
the stain Posted 9 December, 2012 Posted 9 December, 2012 Apologies, my matrix of scream size/drama queen status isn't very good. Can someone type it up better?
Badger Posted 9 December, 2012 Posted 9 December, 2012 What if he's not naturally a screamer or alterntively he is a bit of a drama queen? For example my dad didn't scream when he had a car accident, yet he's fractured his pelvis. My sister let out s loud scream when she saw a spider but she was in no physical pain whatsoever. Let's put it out there to everyone We asked the mongbaord Does the sound of the scream dictate the extent of the injury?? With all the technology involved in football nowadays, and that Saints in particular embrace (Prozone for example), its surprising that we don't have a Hughie Green type of 'Screamometer' available to us. Anyone else think it could be useful to physios in the preparation of injuries ? (With apologies to the stain who asked a serious question)
Turkish Posted 9 December, 2012 Posted 9 December, 2012 Apologies, my matrix of scream size/drama queen status isn't very good. Can someone type it up better? No, I thought it was quite good and with my limited knowledge of Lallana I would say he is a medium drama queen and the scream was large drama queen scream so he'll probably be back for Fulham.
Turkish Posted 9 December, 2012 Posted 9 December, 2012 With all the technology involved in football nowadays, and that Saints in particular embrace (Prozone for example), its surprising that we don't have a Hughie Green type of 'Screamometer' available to us. Anyone else think it could be useful to physios in the preparation of injuries ? (With apologies to the stain who asked a serious question) This is a great idea and as head of sports science then it's another area where Les Reed has failed us.
the stain Posted 9 December, 2012 Posted 9 December, 2012 So if we can pretty much guarantee that he's back for Fulham, what's all this guff from Adkins about assessing it after 24/48 hours?
dubai_phil Posted 9 December, 2012 Posted 9 December, 2012 As Bearsy seems to be the forum expert on inflicted pain, perhaps we could get him to create a screamometer. Was it a baseball bat insertion level scream? We had chill out music playing in the background at the pub so we're totally in the dark in this debate. We just heard tish tish tish bump boom tish tish tish
Turkish Posted 9 December, 2012 Posted 9 December, 2012 So if we can pretty much guarantee that he's back for Fulham, what's all this guff from Adkins about assessing it after 24/48 hours? I didn't hear the scream and I can only make an assumption ad to his drama queen status so we will need this confirmed before we can guarantee anything.
the stain Posted 9 December, 2012 Posted 9 December, 2012 I have been told from a source very close to Adam that he is a medium sized drama queen. I'm surprised you haven't got a source, turkish, you're normally on the all about this sort of stuff.
Horley CTFC Saint Posted 9 December, 2012 Posted 9 December, 2012 Go to the muppet show if you don't want to discuss the football properly. Its a valid comment he painted several Screams so we need to know which one.........
VectisSaint Posted 9 December, 2012 Posted 9 December, 2012 Oh feck - neither of those injuries is good news but Yoshida is worse as we are so thin for our CB cover. Hope both are precautionary. As Adkins stated several times in different interviews, this is standard procedure, put a brace on the leg, let the injury settle for 24-48 hours and then analyse it. I would be surprised if Yoshi is seriously injured as he played on after he was hurt in the 2nd half and completed the game. I would also not be so worried about playing Jos against Sunderland or even Stoke, but would be happier with Yoshi back for Arsenal. I think we saw yesterday that we can play well without Adam, but I'd rather he was fit than not of course.
Tokyo-Saint Posted 9 December, 2012 Posted 9 December, 2012 Small scream = not serious injury, someone stepped on his toe medium scream = minor injury, maybe out for a couple of days large scream = pretty serious injury, out for a between 1-3 weeks very large scream = really serious, won't see him again this season You're not medically trained are you? If so, that is a fascinating insight into modern medicine/ human biology.
Tokyo-Saint Posted 9 December, 2012 Posted 9 December, 2012 Lols at Turkish making out his dad isn't a screamer. He screams Turks, he screams.
david in sweden Posted 10 December, 2012 Posted 10 December, 2012 I have been told from a source very close to Adam that he is a medium sized drama queen. I'm surprised you haven't got a source, turkish, you're normally on the all about this sort of stuff. Adam ..as one of the shortest (and perhaps) lightest players in the squad, I should think getting thumped by a 12 stone opponent might hurt a bit more than a 12 stone striker getting the same " treatment" .
Hockey_saint Posted 10 December, 2012 Posted 10 December, 2012 The thing that worried me was that I've also had a sporting knee injury (LCL) from falling over in the same manor in May; it still twinges a bit.
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