SuperMikey Posted 8 December, 2012 Share Posted 8 December, 2012 That's OK then? Our culture? Not my culture - I don't accept that sort of thing at all. I'm no fan either, but that's the way things are now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 8 December, 2012 Share Posted 8 December, 2012 Must have had some serious issues in her life before this happened. There's no way a sane human would top themselves because of a few days getting harassed by tabloid journalists. Everything would all have been forgotten about in a week without this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 8 December, 2012 Share Posted 8 December, 2012 Reading some comments from mates on another Aus Radio Station, seems that this "stupid prank" has now ruined the lives of the presenters, possibly cost the Radio Station it's licence and the jobs of all it's employees. That of course in addition to the pain and grief inflicted on the family of the nurse and her co-workers. Yeah, it was really funny, well done to them, and don't give me the "they didn't know it would happen" defence. Prank calls are just another form of bullying and done by arrogant cocks who think only of themselves and their own "ratings" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Saint Posted 8 December, 2012 Share Posted 8 December, 2012 Must have had some serious issues in her life before this happened. There's no way a sane human would top themselves because of a few days getting harassed by tabloid journalists. Everything would all have been forgotten about in a week without this. That's the problem with playing a prank on someone you don't know. There is a chance of unforeseen consequences. You wouldn't jump out of a cupboard and say boo to someone who you knew had a heart condition. This is why what they did was irresponsible. The radio station are done for now as there top two advertisers have just pulled out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 8 December, 2012 Share Posted 8 December, 2012 So many dj's are t####, we had our own Russel Grant and Ross, add to that the Savilles of the world. i never get why Radio 1 etc have to have celebrity dj's like the one for Leeds who got paid hundreds of thousands for doing a show in the morning all about himself. I don't know what other people wish for, but for me i would be happy for somebody just to announce the song name and play a record, not listen to aimless drivel for 5 records an hour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the stain Posted 8 December, 2012 Share Posted 8 December, 2012 So many dj's are t####, we had our own Russel Grant and Ross, add to that the Savilles of the world. i never get why Radio 1 etc have to have celebrity dj's like the one for Leeds who got paid hundreds of thousands for doing a show in the morning all about himself. I don't know what other people wish for, but for me i would be happy for somebody just to announce the song name and play a record, not listen to aimless drivel for 5 records an hour. Yeah, that Russell Grant is a right tw*t. The fat bastard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctoroncall Posted 9 December, 2012 Author Share Posted 9 December, 2012 Reading some comments from mates on another Aus Radio Station, seems that this "stupid prank" has now ruined the lives of the presenters, possibly cost the Radio Station it's licence and the jobs of all it's employees. That of course in addition to the pain and grief inflicted on the family of the nurse and her co-workers. Yeah, it was really funny, well done to them, and don't give me the "they didn't know it would happen" defence. Prank calls are just another form of bullying and done by arrogant cocks who think only of themselves and their own "ratings" It was pre-recorded and the lawyers heard it first and gave the go ahead. Even then they could have not played it or edited out bits. The day after the first airing, they were playing extracts from it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 9 December, 2012 Share Posted 9 December, 2012 It was pre-recorded and the lawyers heard it first and gave the go ahead. Even then they could have not played it or edited out bits. The day after the first airing, they were playing extracts from it. And they were boasting about it. The family now have to take her remains to India for the burial, no doubt at significant cost. A Business with a conscience would make a contribution to that along with an apology. Instead they issued a bland we done nuffink wrong Guv statement. Hope they go bust to be honest, shame for the employees and shareholders but as you say, the station is culpable as their lawyers allowed them to broadcast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spudders Posted 9 December, 2012 Share Posted 9 December, 2012 the station is culpable as their lawyers allowed them to broadcast :lol: Whilst it’s sad what happened, the radio station is not responsible for a weak minded woman killing herself due to having loads of stuff going on in her life! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridge too far Posted 9 December, 2012 Share Posted 9 December, 2012 :lol: Whilst it’s sad what happened, the radio station is not responsible for a weak minded woman killing herself due to having loads of stuff going on in her life! What 'stuff' did she have going on in her life? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 9 December, 2012 Share Posted 9 December, 2012 What 'stuff' did she have going on in her life? He probably supports the moron who threw the coin at Rio this afternoon. "Cos it was a larf innit" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spudders Posted 9 December, 2012 Share Posted 9 December, 2012 What 'stuff' did she have going on in her life? So you think she killed herself purely based on this one event? He probably supports the moron who threw the coin at Rio this afternoon. "Cos it was a larf innit" Don't be so pathetic, that's hardly the same sort of thing is it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridge too far Posted 9 December, 2012 Share Posted 9 December, 2012 So you think she killed herself purely based on this one event? Don't be so pathetic, that's hardly the same sort of thing is it! I have no idea and, I suspect, you don't either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spudders Posted 9 December, 2012 Share Posted 9 December, 2012 I have no idea and, I suspect, you don't either. Of course I don't. But as I said on the previous page (post 27 & 31), if she really did kill herself (leaving behind two children without a mother) based on this one prank, than I have no sympathy for her at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littleoldladysaint Posted 9 December, 2012 Share Posted 9 December, 2012 That nurse was globally humiliated when that tape was broadcast. The presenters, having 'apologised', then went on air with the woman describing it as the easiest prank she'd ever done and that it was the highlight of her career, while the guy chortled in the background, heaping further pain on the nurse. They did'nt give a thought to the distress they had caused because they were too busy congratulating themselves on how clever and funny they were. Yes, of course the nurse should have thought of her children and the pain her death would cause them. I suspect that she was too distressed and felt too humiliated to think rationally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 9 December, 2012 Share Posted 9 December, 2012 That nurse was globally humiliated when that tape was broadcast. The presenters, having 'apologised', then went on air with the woman describing it as the easiest prank she'd ever done and that it was the highlight of her career, while the guy chortled in the background, heaping further pain on the nurse. They did'nt give a thought to the distress they had caused because they were too busy congratulating themselves on how clever and funny they were. Yes, of course the nurse should have thought of her children and the pain her death would cause them. I suspect that she was too distressed and felt too humiliated to think rationally. you have a point...but this hospital was not suddenly used by the royals...to work there, or with any royal environment...would come with certain risks....IE, press interest and in the case of Kate....monumental intrest... you have to wonder why the hell someone as fragile was working there.... tragic all the same Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spudders Posted 9 December, 2012 Share Posted 9 December, 2012 That nurse was globally humiliated when that tape was broadcast. The presenters, having 'apologised', then went on air with the woman describing it as the easiest prank she'd ever done and that it was the highlight of her career, while the guy chortled in the background, heaping further pain on the nurse. They did'nt give a thought to the distress they had caused because they were too busy congratulating themselves on how clever and funny they were. Yes, of course the nurse should have thought of her children and the pain her death would cause them. I suspect that she was too distressed and felt too humiliated to think rationally. My god, it’s like a lot of other people have also lost the ability to think rationally as well!! She made a mistake whilst at work and put the call through to another nurse who in turn gave out some personal information. Remember, we’re talking about the nurse that put the call through, she’s not even the one who actually gave out a patients personal information! But regardless of which nurse did what, they made one small mistake and not even a critical one. Between them they gave out one persons personal details. As I said on the previous page, most people make the odd mistake or two at work, you just learn from it and move on. I can understand these nurses feeling a bit embarrassed about the whole situation, but their names weren’t made public before the death so to use words like global humiliation and distress is typical of society these days, people always want to make things into a drama! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littleoldladysaint Posted 9 December, 2012 Share Posted 9 December, 2012 A 'bit embarrassed!!' - how many of your 'odd mistakes' have made the nationals? How many times have the details been reported on every radio/TV station from here to Australia? Their names were'nt made public before her death but everyone in that hospital would have known and probably all their visitors and tradesmen as well. She was also the one most to blame because the 2nd nurse would have assumed that the necessary checks had already been made. If that had been me, it certainly would not have driven me to suicide but I would have been ashamed and humiliated beyond words at making such a basic mis-judgement. I don't know how I could have gone back to work and faced everyone - after all, its not the sort of thing that you can just laugh off. Unless of course you are an Australian TV presenter with the sensitivity of a rhinoceros. I understand that they are now shattered and in need of counselling - the poor dears! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spudders Posted 9 December, 2012 Share Posted 9 December, 2012 after all, its not the sort of thing that you can just laugh off. Why isn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littleoldladysaint Posted 9 December, 2012 Share Posted 9 December, 2012 Ah, here we go - typical male reaction, turn it into a wind up!. You won't get me on that one Spudgun - I'm the only female in an otherwise all male household and I've been wound up by experts!! I'm off to bed now, goodnight Spudgun and sleep well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctoroncall Posted 9 December, 2012 Author Share Posted 9 December, 2012 Why isn't it? I think the point is you from what information has been shared about the situation wouldn't be bothered by it but she couldn't. It's always difficult to imagine what it would be like, and just as you may find people who can brush off criticism or a joke, there are those that take it to heart. The psyche is hard to fathom sometimes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spudders Posted 9 December, 2012 Share Posted 9 December, 2012 Ah, here we go - typical male reaction, turn it into a wind up!. You won't get me on that one Spudgun - I'm the only female in an otherwise all male household and I've been wound up by experts!! I'm off to bed now, goodnight Spudgun and sleep well. I don’t know why you think I was winding you up, apologies if it seemed like that, I promise you that wasn’t the case, I’m genuinely interested in the different reactions around what’s happened in this case. I supposed as Doctoroncall mentions in the post after yours, some people can brush off criticism whereas others take things more personally, as this lady did. Also I suppose we all perceive things differently, I really don’t see that this should have been a big issue, my understanding was that it wasn’t even a disciplinary issue with the hospital, but just a telling off and move on. I can’t understand how (even for the most sensitive of person) that escalates into a situation where life is just not worth living anymore? Which is why I think she must have had other things going on in her head (but as bridge too far pointed out earlier, I have no idea if that were the case or not, I'm just guessing) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Warrior Posted 9 December, 2012 Share Posted 9 December, 2012 Yes it is sad someone took their life for transferring the call through to another nurse. But I do believe the media over here are going over the top with the story . Is it away of deflectling the negativity aim at the British media in light of the phone hacking scandals and leverson recommendations both the Bbc and sky , the sun et al seem to have forgotten That they destroyed a lot of people's lives . Take Ross and brown there was nowhere near the outcry with them compared to this case Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 9 December, 2012 Share Posted 9 December, 2012 :lol: Whilst it’s sad what happened, the radio station is not responsible for a weak minded woman killing herself due to having loads of stuff going on in her life! It's responsible for broadcasting the recording and promoting their actions. You should never broadcast anything without the other party's permission, in the same way that you shouldn't publish photographs without approval. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatch Posted 10 December, 2012 Share Posted 10 December, 2012 if the presenters now kill themselves, who do we blame for that? They are now under a lot more pressure because of the situation than that nurse ever was. This might never end, I hope I'm quite a long way up the chain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big John Posted 10 December, 2012 Share Posted 10 December, 2012 Don't know if it's already been suggested but I'd recommend these presenters get in touch with Max Clifford before they get royally shafted by the press. It is sad and regrettable but we do not need any sacrificials imho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 10 December, 2012 Share Posted 10 December, 2012 if the presenters now kill themselves, who do we blame for that? This might never end, I hope I'm quite a long way up the chain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 10 December, 2012 Share Posted 10 December, 2012 Yes it is sad someone took their life for transferring the call through to another nurse. But I do believe the media over here are going over the top with the story . Is it away of deflectling the negativity aim at the British media in light of the phone hacking scandals and leverson recommendations both the Bbc and sky , the sun et al seem to have forgotten That they destroyed a lot of people's lives . Take Ross and brown there was nowhere near the outcry with them compared to this case Luckily down here, we don't have the same exposure to the media and also, luckily, we don't need them to make our minds up for them. I have a lot of mates in or ex Radio and they, like me are appalled by the simple basic facts on this. One mate in Aus put this in context. It is as horrific a breach of etiquette and taste as hacking the Dowler's phone messages. I don't need the media to tell me that two idiots did something in bad taste and it backfired on them. Ah bless the little possums, they are all shook up. A lot of people I know would like to shake them up as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sussexsaint Posted 10 December, 2012 Share Posted 10 December, 2012 I suspect the nurse managers gave her hell and would have suspended her and threatened her with all sorts, patient confidentiality is taken very very seriously, she was probably a very shy, quiet and honourable nurse and to hear her voice being played all over the world would have been enough alone to drive her to the edge. I have seen nurses driven to the edge by jumped up managers for far less. Very sad indeed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatch Posted 11 December, 2012 Share Posted 11 December, 2012 Oz Radio station to put about £320,000 into a fund for the family that the nurse didn't love very much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 11 December, 2012 Share Posted 11 December, 2012 I suspect the nurse managers gave her hell and would have suspended her and threatened her with all sorts, patient confidentiality is taken very very seriously, she was probably a very shy, quiet and honourable nurse and to hear her voice being played all over the world would have been enough alone to drive her to the edge. I have seen nurses driven to the edge by jumped up managers for far less. Very sad indeed I don't buy it. Why couldn't she just quit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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